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I apologize if there is already a thread like this, but the search wasnt working.. I know what i can do with my phone once it is rooted, I am just interested in what happens tot he actual phone. I could be wrong, but once i root it isnt it always possible to tell that i rooted it even if i unroot it so therefor all warantees are voided? sorry if im being unclear, i cant think of another way to explain it haha.
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I apologize if there is already a thread like this, but the search wasnt working.. I know what i can do with my phone once it is rooted, I am just interested in what happens tot he actual phone. I could be wrong, but once i root it isnt it always possible to tell that i rooted it even if i unroot it so therefor all warantees are voided? sorry if im being unclear, i cant think of another way to explain it haha.
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The language on the "warranty void" screen says that unlocking the bootloader "may" void your warranty. On the Nexus One, HTC usually honored the warranty if the issue was with anything hardware related and could not have been the result of software tampering. Granted, that's them and this is Samsung.
Further, unless there is something hidden in the system files that counts the number of times you unlock the bootloader, you can always relock it prior to sending it in for repair with fastboot oem lock.
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The language on the "warranty void" screen says that unlocking the bootloader "may" void your warranty. On the Nexus One, HTC usually honored the warranty if the issue was with anything hardware related and could not have been the result of software tampering. Granted, that's them and this is Samsung.
Further, unless there is something hidden in the system files that counts the number of times you unlock the bootloader, you can always relock it prior to sending it in for repair with fastboot oem lock.
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So there is a way to kind of undo the root without them knowing? THanks a lot btw. I figured it was something like this.
The K-Zoo Kid said:
So there is a way to kind of undo the root without them knowing? THanks a lot btw. I figured it was something like this.
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unlocking the bootloader and rooting are two different things
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unlocking the bootloader and rooting are two different things
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Ahh i have no idea what unlocking the bootloader does then.
The K-Zoo Kid said:
Ahh i have no idea what unlocking the bootloader does then.
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In a nutshell, unlocking the bootloader means you will be allowed to flash non-Google/custom files to the system partition and more or less enables superuser access(aka root). Once thats done, then you "root" the device, push the Superuser.apk which will enable the rooted apps. Please check out the rooted section of my stickied FAQ for more detail on how to do this if you decide to. There are two great threads I link to.
Once you lock the bootloader, you lose access to the system partition and superuser I believe which effectively unroots it.
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In a nutshell, unlocking the bootloader means you will be allowed to flash non-Google/custom files to the system partition and more or less enables superuser access(aka root). Once thats done, then you "root" the device, push the Superuser.apk which will enable the rooted apps. Please check out the rooted section of my stickied FAQ for more detail on how to do this if you decide to. There are two great threads I link to.
Once you lock the bootloader, you lose access to the system partition and superuser I believe which effectively unroots it.
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So basically if you want to do any sort of mods, flash roms, etc. you need to unlock the bootload and root. Thanks a lot for explaining that. I think i understand it now, but just to clarify, if i unlock the bootloader and root will i be able to get the phone back to stock without samsung knowing that i rooted/unlock the bootloader?
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So basically if you want to do any sort of mods, flash roms, etc. you need to unlock the bootload and root. Thanks a lot for explaining that. I think i understand it now, but just to clarify, if i unlock the bootloader and root will i be able to get the phone back to stock without samsung knowing that i rooted/unlock the bootloader?
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Yes, to mod/flash roms you need to unlock the bootloader. It's possible that sometime down the road someone may develop a method of gaining root access on the phone without touching it, but it's unlikely given the fact that we can both unlock and lock the bootloader very easily.
Right now, the answer is... more or less. If you make a NAND backup in Clockwork Recovery/Rom manager of your stock ROM, you can restore back to that, fastboot flash the closest thing we have currently to the stock recovery(check development section for this), then relock the bootloader. This will give the phone all appearances of being stock. Unless Samsung has something deep in the system files tracking the number of times you've unlocked/locked(which I doubt, since I'm sure such a system would have been found by now), you should be good to go.
Most people who have returned the phone to Best Buy have noted that they don't even power on the device or check to see if the bootloader is unlocked or if there's a custom recovery on there. But your mileage may vary.
Interesting stuff. I was under the impression that once clockworkmod is flashed there is no way to remove it at this time.
Reading this thread I'm guessing and hoping this is not the case?
I had clockworkmod installed but used rom manager to flash the 2.3.1 update and i've now got the stock bootloader back. I guess the ota update does the same? It would seem that getting back to stock is pretty easy.
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Interesting stuff. I was under the impression that once clockworkmod is flashed there is no way to remove it at this time.
Reading this thread I'm guessing and hoping this is not the case?
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My apologies, I posted that before I came to the same understanding regarding the stock recovery.
Like the poster above me mentioned there is a NAND backup of stock 2.3.1 you could restore to which has the stock recovery.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'll do some more reading in the dev section
Thanks a lot, this really helped me out a lot. I will proceed to rooting
So, just want to make sure I have this straight... You unlock the bootloader, load custom recovery, SU, and now phone is rooted. If you lock the bootloader, you lose root?
For me, I'm not big on custom roms since I just don't have time to keep things up to date or participate in the bug process, but I do like to maintain backups with Titanium (my primary reason for rooting). So by locking the bootloader down I will not be able to use Titanium. Furthermore, unlocking the bootloader wipes the device. So is there a reason one would not want to keep the bootloader unlocked? Have I completely misunderstood the system?
Very sorry to post this in such a panic, I have been researching Google and XDA forums for a couple of hours now and just can't find the information I need.
I dropped my phone and broke the proximity sensor. It is making the phone all but unusable. I have the Total Equipment Protection from Verizon, which covers damage, theft, and loss. However, the problem is I have rooted the phone, and I am concerned they will say I have voided the warranty.
I tried doing a hard reset, and it still shows up as rooted. I have downloaded the files to 'restore to stock', but I don't know if that will unroot the device, or not.
I had previously installed Voodoo Rootkeeper when I had rooted it the first time. Now, after doing the hard (factory) reset, I installed Voodoo Rootkeeper from the Play store and it says I have Superuser installed, but I don't see it in my apps list. I am guessing that I just need to reinstall it from the play store because there is a button in Rootkeeper that says, "Google Play".
There's also a button that says "Temp un-root". Will this unroot my phone so that I can return it to the store under warranty?
Is there a way to completely un-root this phone, once it has been rooted?
Just FYI, I did not use the Chinese root. I used the root where you plug your phone in to the USB and use adb to run a program, which then asks you if you want full root or the partial root that you can only access via USB/abd.
I'm sorry if this seems confused... Basically, I want to unroot this phone and return it as quickly and simply as possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Use the LG flash tool to return to stock (detailed somewhere on these forums) and you will become completely unrooted. I've done it before and it does reset the status flag in the settings screen.
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usefulidiot127 said:
Use the LG flash tool to return to stock (detailed somewhere on these forums) and you will become completely unrooted. I've done it before and it does reset the status flag in the settings screen.
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THANK YOU! I had hoped it would be that simple. I tried to read through that thread to see if that was the case, but couldn't see anything definitive. I was in a bit of a panic and distracted too, so it's possible I missed it. Hopefully, this thread will get indexed by Google and other people who may have the same problem can see this.
Will try that and report back!
George
This worked great and is VZW specific.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448960
Broken screen for me and needed an insurance replacement.
Thanks, hard brick?
willyjay said:
This worked great and is VZW specific.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448960
Broken screen for me and needed an insurance replacement.
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Do you think I should try that one specifically instead of the generic instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
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I didn't know what a TOT file is, so I Googled it and found some warning to be very careful with TOT files because they can hard brick the phone?
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Ah, heck!
I tried the first generic 'restore to stock' from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
and when I get to the step where I click 'ok' to proceed and flash the rom, the program stops and the phone displays a "B100" and then "ROOTED" in red letters!
I'm going to read through all 27 pages of that thread to see if anyone else has had this problem, but in the meantime, does that Verizon specific thread fix this problem, would either of you happen to know?
Thanks!
Total protection is not warranty. You breaking your phone is not a manufacturer defect which warranty covers.
Regardless, neither method cares if it's rooted or not. I have returned more phones than I can count that have been rooted and not once have I had a charge.
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Do you think I should try that one specifically instead of the generic instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
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I didn't know what a TOT file is, so I Googled it and found some warning to be very careful with TOT files because they can hard brick the phone?
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The VZW specific method worked perfectly for me....also, shows unrooted in the settings and download mode.
Just make sure to verify the md5 checksum on the tot file.
Verified, flashing the stock tot resets back to pure stock including a reset of the root flag. I used the VZW specific writeup and it went exactly as advertised. Recommend you use that one.
Thanks
06stang said:
Total protection is not warranty. You breaking your phone is not a manufacturer defect which warranty covers.
Regardless, neither method cares if it's rooted or not. I have returned more phones than I can count that have been rooted and not once have I had a charge.
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Thanks, I was wondering about that! I've never been a Verizon customer before and I've heard stories that made me nervous. You have definitely made me feel a bit more reassured. Of course, I still want to unroot it a) to show myself I can, and b) just to be safe.
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Thanks, I was wondering about that! I've never been a Verizon customer before and I've heard stories that made me nervous. You have definitely made me feel a bit more reassured. Of course, I still want to unroot it a) to show myself I can, and b) just to be safe.
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Can't hurt to do it. When I had my Incredible 1 I asked my buddy about it and he told me when he gets the phone they check for physical damage, check the water damage indicators, plug it in and flash the new software, then test it to send back out. I went through 6 incredibles, 4 incredible 2s, 4 rezounds, and 4 galaxy nexus. All rooted all returned without resetting no charges.
But i can say 100% guaranteed without a doubt your total protection insurance does no care what you do to the phone because it's not a warranty issue anyway. If you return your current device for a new one you're paying the $99 fee anyway. If you send it in as warranty they'll charge you full pop if they see physical damage.
HOORAY!
HOORAY!
I followed the steps at this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448960, and it worked!
Thanks again, everyone!
Hi Everyone i got a Quite new Nexus 4.
Im tired of waiting for the OTA and decided to move on to flash in the Factory Images.
As ive been reading on alot of places it says it ruins my warranty. but according to the EU Directives it does not ruin my Hardware Warranty.
So what would you do? would you open the bootloader flash in 4.4 and lock the bootloader. is there anyway the Serviceman can see that only the bootloader been opened if i lock it directly afterwards?
best regards.
Not sure what you mean about the bootloader. Yes u can unlock and lock the bootloader. After you lock it back; no there is not to tell if it was unlocked. If you want to upgrade to 4.4; follow this guide.
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Not sure what you mean about the bootloader. Yes u can unlock and lock the bootloader. After you lock it back; no there is not to tell if it was unlocked. If you want to upgrade to 4.4; follow this guide.
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I mean People have had trouble when they have been at a Official Servicecenter.
Apparently the servicecenter said that the customer have had a open bootloader then locked it before going to repair, so the Servicecenter refused to repair the phone.
I dont know if its a myth or not?
so its 100 % secure not damaging any hardware just unlocking the bootloader with nexus toolkit.
Eastliin said:
Hi Everyone i got a Quite new Nexus 4.
Im tired of waiting for the OTA and decided to move on to flash in the Factory Images.
As ive been reading on alot of places it says it ruins my warranty. but according to the EU Directives it does not ruin my Hardware Warranty.
So what would you do? would you open the bootloader flash in 4.4 and lock the bootloader. is there anyway the Serviceman can see that only the bootloader been opened if i lock it directly afterwards?
best regards.
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I don't know a damn thing about EU Directives. But, I've never heard of google refusing to honor a warranty on a Nexus because the bootloader was unlocked. That's kind of expected on a Nexus, and that's why google makes it so easy to do. It's not like other phones that need to utilize some exploit to do it. There is very little that can go wrong. And it can almost always be fixed by flashing another factory image again.
If it was me, I would have unlocked the bootloader the day I bought it, because unlocking it will wipe your data now. There is no way around that. But if I were you, yes I would unlock it and install whatever you want to. Locking it up again is an option. But if you want to unlock again later, you will have to wipe data, again.
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I don't know a damn thing about EU Directives. But, I've never heard of google refusing to honor a warranty on a Nexus because the bootloader was unlocked. That's kind of expected on a Nexus, and that's why google makes it so easy to do. It's not like other phones that need to utilize some exploit to do it. There is very little that can go wrong. And it can almost always be fixed by flashing another factory image again.
If it was me, I would have unlocked the bootloader the day I bought it, because unlocking it will wipe your data now. There is no way around that. But if I were you, yes I would unlock it and install whatever you want to. Locking it up again is an option. But if you want to unlock again later, you will have to wipe data when you unlock in the future.
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here is a link to the directive im talking about.
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu
I do wipes from time to time to keep the phone fresh so thats noo worries at all for me.
so for me its just getting toolkit, open bootloader, flash 4.4 then lock the bootloader no harm done?
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here is a link to the directive im talking about.
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu
I do wipes from time to time to keep the phone fresh so thats noo worries at all for me.
so for me its just getting toolkit, open bootloader, flash 4.4 then lock the bootloader no harm done?
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I also don't know anything about toolkits, I use linux and adb/fastboot (nerd).
But yes, unlock booloader, flash the new factory images, and relock it again if you want. Like I said, unlocking a Nexus is not some taboo process to google. Simply unlocking it won't void your warranty.
They only way you can void your warranty is abuse (dropping it, getting it wet, etc) , or installing BAD software that causes the hardware to malfunction. If you are installing google's factory images, you have nothing to worry about.
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I also don't know anything about toolkits, I use linux and adb/fastboot (nerd).
But yes, unlock booloader, flash the new factory images, and relock it again if you want. Like I said, unlocking a Nexus is not some taboo process to google. Simply unlocking it won't void your warranty.
They only way you can void your warranty is abuse (dropping it, getting it wet, etc) , or installing BAD software that causes the hardware to malfunction. If you are installing google's factory images, you have nothing to worry about.
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ye i will follow a guide,
i know its ok to unlock bootloader by google, but LG that does the repair in sweden screams NONO haha
Eastliin said:
ye i will follow a guide,
i know its ok to unlock bootloader by google, but LG that does the repair in sweden screams NONO haha
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actualy google says to unlock,flash and then relock for"security purposes".
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actualy google says to unlock,flash and then relock for"security purposes".
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Thats fun haha, you got a link of where they state that?
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Thats fun haha, you got a link of where they state that?
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https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=pt-BR
"After restoring a factory image,lock the bootloader for security reasons." almost at bottom of page, after all the images. on instructions part.
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https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=pt-BR
"After restoring a factory image,lock the bootloader for security reasons." almost at bottom of page, after all the images. on instructions part.
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so with that link LG cant screw me at all! when it comes to repairing a phone.
Thx alot!
Eastliin said:
so with that link LG cant screw me at all! when it comes to repairing a phone.
Thx alot!
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^, they tried to screw with me, but as i know lg here in brasil, i carried a book of "consumers defense code", i showed them the link,and the guy from the service center had to get my n4 and fix for no fee (my screen was broken, and no touch, but the screen broke because of overheating).
I'm new to Android. Recently I got a new nexus 6p. I was so confused that whether I have to unlock bootloader or not. Currently I just want to experience the pure Android simply without rooting or changing anything. But I heard a lot about bricked nexus 6 that the device would not be manually fixed if it was not bootloader unlocked before. As I am in China where I have no warranty for my nexus 6p, I have to keep my device safe as possible as I can.
So my question is under the circumstance that I haven't unlocked bootloader or OEM:
How much probability could it be I do nothing but unexpectedly brick the device?
If it is bricked, is it possible to recover it?
Do common nexus 6p users have to unlock bootloader?
Another important thing should be mentioned. Generally I can't access to any service by google in China, so I utilize a proxy tool to get over the great firewall to use google. Is there any experience about the situation like me? I also heard a saying that upgrading nexus 6 firmware by OTA through a proxy tool in China may brick the device, because google can not save the upgrading information of the device for the reason that the proxy IP is not static, then google will push update again, and once you click it, brick.
Puzzled enough...Thanks in advance.
I am not 100% certain what you are asking... If you do not unlock the bootloader, you should not be able to brick your device. The only reason to unlock it is to flash a custom ROM (not official from Google) or to flash Google factory images, which it sounds like might be necessary for you being that you are in China and may not receive OTAs properly. This is a process of downloading a file from Google and flashing to your device after unlocking the bootloader.
Your post was not exactly clear partially, but is your phone already bricked and you are trying to recover, or simply asking for your own reference?
fury683 said:
I am not 100% certain what you are asking... If you do not unlock the bootloader, you should not be able to brick your device. The only reason to unlock it is to flash a custom ROM (not official from Google) or to flash Google factory images, which it sounds like might be necessary for you being that you are in China and may not receive OTAs properly. This is a process of downloading a file from Google and flashing to your device after unlocking the bootloader.
Your post was not exactly clear partially, but is your phone already bricked and you are trying to recover, or simply asking for your own reference?
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Thanks for replying. Could you please point out the unclear expressions? And I could edit them.
I have only unlocked nexus 6p bootloader, and the device is running well. I do not understand exactly why I have to do this, I just do it in case the situation described by other nexus 6 users happen to my nexus 6p. So I want to figure out the logic.
If you have no reason to unlock it, then you can relock it. Unlocking will always cause a full wipe (factory reset) of the device. Some users have stated that relocking the bootloader will also induce a wipe. If you want to leave it unlocked, this will allow you to flash factory images (such as updates from Google) as often as you'd like. It is possible to flash a factory image without losing any data by modifying the batch file used to flash the firmware.
Simply having the bootloader unlocked should not pose any threat to your device. You have to try very intentionally to flash firmware and risk bricking the device, it's not really something you can do by accident. The one thing I will mention is that with the bootloader unlocked, someone with the correct knowledge could flash a new image on your phone without needing your password or other security information. They would only need to power off the device, enter bootloader mode and plug into a PC to begin flashing. This would remove every trace of you and your data from the device and make it like it was brand new from the factory.
By keeping the bootloader locked and the "Allow OEM unlocking" option turned OFF, a person would need to have your password (or fingerprint) to gain access to this option in the settings, thus not allowing them to flash over the device as it is today.
Hope this helps.
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If you have no reason to unlock it, then you can relock it. Unlocking will always cause a full wipe (factory reset) of the device. Some users have stated that relocking the bootloader will also induce a wipe. If you want to leave it unlocked, this will allow you to flash factory images (such as updates from Google) as often as you'd like. It is possible to flash a factory image without losing any data by modifying the batch file used to flash the firmware.
Simply having the bootloader unlocked should not pose any threat to your device. You have to try very intentionally to flash firmware and risk bricking the device, it's not really something you can do by accident. The one thing I will mention is that with the bootloader unlocked, someone with the correct knowledge could flash a new image on your phone without needing your password or other security information. They would only need to power off the device, enter bootloader mode and plug into a PC to begin flashing. This would remove every trace of you and your data from the device and make it like it was brand new from the factory.
By keeping the bootloader locked and the "Allow OEM unlocking" option turned OFF, a person would need to have your password (or fingerprint) to gain access to this option in the settings, thus not allowing them to flash over the device as it is today.
Hope this helps.
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According to you, I should not be able to brick my device if I did not unlock the device. I can understand this. But the problem is I am in China...By using proxy, I could receive OTAs correctly. But some nexus 6 users in China still encountered with device bricked after upgrading firmware by OTAs even they didn't unlock bootloader. One possible reason is like what I mentioned in last paragraph #1.
I don't like the prompt each time when I reboot the device after unlocking bootloader. Let's make the problem simpler. Can I unbrick the device if it is bricked and bootloader locked?
I can't really speak to your concern regarding bricking from OTA. This should nearly never happen, but I would suspect that the proxy is the issue. If you are concerned about that particular instance being an issue, I would simply not accept the OTA and don't install it. The file will download to your device and you will see a notification very similar to this: http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/12/1c244e92c6a0cd69ca6e1a3037a05d62.jpg If you do not click Install, it will not install itself. You can click Later but usually cannot dismiss the notification. I have had the update pending on my Nexus 7 tablet that I don't often for months, but simply have not upgraded because I don't use it often enough to justify it.
If you want to be on the latest firmware for security reasons (Android 6/M will have monthly security patch releases from Google), you can download the factory images and flash yourself. However, if you believe there may be an issue because of the proxy you are using, the factory image could face the same issue as the OTA as you described. As I said, because I am not in China and do not use a proxy as you do, I cannot comment on how or why other users may have faced a hard brick scenario.
Ultimately, having the bootloader unlocked will allow you to flash the factory image over a bricked firmware caused by a corrupt (or otherwise unusable) OTA. If the phone can enter bootloader mode, you can flash the firmware and restore it to like new state. The warning message you see when booting is not able to be disabled without locking the bootloader again, but it only appears for a few moments. It was previously hidden on the Nexus 6 (not the 6p) so it might be possible in the future, but that is just a guess.
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I can't really speak to your concern regarding bricking from OTA. This should nearly never happen, but I would suspect that the proxy is the issue. If you are concerned about that particular instance being an issue, I would simply not accept the OTA and don't install it. The file will download to your device and you will see a notification very similar to this: If you do not click Install, it will not install itself. You can click Later but usually cannot dismiss the notification. I have had the update pending on my Nexus 7 tablet that I don't often for months, but simply have not upgraded because I don't use it often enough to justify it.
If you want to be on the latest firmware for security reasons (Android 6/M will have monthly security patch releases from Google), you can download the factory images and flash yourself. However, if you believe there may be an issue because of the proxy you are using, the factory image could face the same issue as the OTA as you described. As I said, because I am not in China and do not use a proxy as you do, I cannot comment on how or why other users may have faced a hard brick scenario.
Ultimately, having the bootloader unlocked will allow you to flash the factory image over a bricked firmware caused by a corrupt (or otherwise unusable) OTA. If the phone can enter bootloader mode, you can flash the firmware and restore it to like new state. The warning message you see when booting is not able to be disabled without locking the bootloader again, but it only appears for a few moments. It was previously hidden on the Nexus 6 (not the 6p) so it might be possible in the future, but that is just a guess.
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OK I choose to give in...leave it unlocked there.
Thank you very much!
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OK I choose to give in...leave it unlocked there.
Thank you very much!
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The decision to leave it unlocked is the right decision. The other person replying in this thread is completely wrong when he says you can't brick a phone if you don't unlock it, that's completely and utterly incorrect. Sometimes things happen, unforeseen spontaneous problems happen all the time with smartphones. If this happens to you and your bootloader is locked there's absolutely nothing you can do to fix it. So yes, leave your bootloader unlocked as an insurance policy against the unforeseen.
@fury683, I'd think twice before telling someone that nothing bad can happen to their phone as long as it's locked, this is false information, and could potentially lead to someone being unable to repair a soft-bricked device due to following your advice.
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The decision to leave it unlocked is the right decision. The other person replying in this thread is completely wrong when he says you can't brick a phone if you don't unlock it, that's completely and utterly incorrect. Sometimes things happen, unforeseen spontaneous problems happen all the time with smartphones. If this happens to you and your bootloader is locked there's absolutely nothing you can do to fix it. So yes, leave your bootloader unlocked as an insurance policy against the unforeseen.
@fury683, I'd think twice before telling someone that nothing bad can happen to their phone as long as it's locked, this is false information, and could potentially lead to someone being unable to repair a soft-bricked device due to following your advice.
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To be fair, I said should not. I've never bricked a device from normal use.
I offered my opinion, and the reasons why. I've been burned by comments and advice from people plenty of times and try my best to help out where I can. I don't think my post was misleading, and I appreciate your comments on the matter as well.
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The decision to leave it unlocked is the right decision. The other person replying in this thread is completely wrong when he says you can't brick a phone if you don't unlock it, that's completely and utterly incorrect. Sometimes things happen, unforeseen spontaneous problems happen all the time with smartphones. If this happens to you and your bootloader is locked there's absolutely nothing you can do to fix it. So yes, leave your bootloader unlocked as an insurance policy against the unforeseen.
@fury683, I'd think twice before telling someone that nothing bad can happen to their phone as long as it's locked, this is false information, and could potentially lead to someone being unable to repair a soft-bricked device due to following your advice.
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Thanks for your advice. So, I can make the conclusion that we should unlock nexus bootloader no matter where we are, when it is and whether we will root or not, right ?
gnange said:
Thanks for your advice. So, I can make the conclusion that we should unlock nexus bootloader no matter where we are, when it is and whether we will root or not, right ?
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The choice is ultimately yours, but my advice is always to have it unlocked, that way you're able to access and use fastboot in the event that something goes wrong.
fury683 said:
To be fair, I said should not. I've never bricked a device from normal use.
I offered my opinion, and the reasons why. I've been burned by comments and advice from people plenty of times and try my best to help out where I can. I don't think my post was misleading, and I appreciate your comments on the matter as well.
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As I am new to android, your reply benefits me a lot. I notice you replied me before dawn while it was afternoon in China, thanks for your kindness but you should pay more attention to getting enough sleep, don't burn yourself out. : )
Heisenberg said:
The choice is ultimately yours, but my advice is always to have it unlocked, that way you're able to access and use fastboot in the event that something goes wrong.
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Actually I used to suppose one has to unlock bootloader only if in China. Now I get it. Thank you !
Heisenberg said:
The choice is ultimately yours, but my advice is always to have it unlocked, that way you're able to access and use fastboot in the event that something goes wrong.
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Yep what Heisenberg said is 100% true. My phone got bricked after the OTA update resulted in an error. I hadn't enabled the OEM Unlock setting, so couldn't unlock the phone. Have to wait for a replacement now
Hello XDAians
Today I sucessfully rooted my S8+ (G955FD) With Supersu.
Please Follow these Steps to get Root Access.... All files given in below link. This method only works on 955F/FD becoz i tested it. I dont know about other Variant. If anything happens to other variant i am not responsible, So please confirm before root.
So....follow these steps.
1. BackUp your existing important datas before root.
2. You need Odin 3.12.3 , you can find it on Odindownload.com
3. Download all files from below link and extract wherever you want
4. Switch off your device and go to download mode.
5. Connect your device with Original USB C cable to PC or Laptop
6. Now Open Odin, Select Ap and add TWRP 3.1.1.2 given in attachment.
7. DO NOT PRESS START YET..... Go to Options in Odin and remove tick on Auto-Reboot
8. Now Click Start.....Now your device will have TWRP installed.
9. Once Odin says PASS....Just Press and Hold Volume Down + bixby + Power buttons. in 5 Seconds Your screen will gone black. Immediatly with out release Bixby and Power button , release volume down and press and hold Volume Up. Now you will taken to TWRP Custom recovery.
10. Now you ask for some messages, do not click any check boxes, just swipe and you will be in main screen.
11. Now go to wipe - select format data- confirm with yes and format it.
12. connect your cable with pc/lap, go to advance settings and select ADB Sideload.
13. Most of you have minimal Adb package. if dont download from here https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120698566
14. So now you have to side load the first package.
15. Copy no-verity-opt-encrypt-5.1.zip and UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.82-20170528234214.zip to minimal directory. and change names for both zip files if needed. After that, Open cmd in minimal directory and enter the following commands.
16. First One. adb sideload no-verity-opt-encrypt-5.1.zip (you must flash this one first)
17. After flash done, go back to twrp main screen, Select reboot - and select recovery. if a screen shows two check boxes untick and select do not install.
18. Now your device restart and boot back to twrp. Now its time for second command. Now navigate to advance settings- select adb sideload
19. Second Command : adb sideload UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.82-20170528234214.zip
20. After sucessfull flash .....Reboot. if two check boxes shows again, untick it and select donot install. Your device will reboot.
Boot will take some time. So do not panic. You device is now rooted
DOWNLOAD AQG5 ROOT FILES 100% TESTED
wow,
no replies !?
Any1 else test it? @admirysolutions which carrier you have?
kasim1 said:
wow,
no replies !?
Any1 else test it? @admirysolutions which carrier you have?
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Please watch this https://youtu.be/12Soyx9xiKE
Just now I upload it for your clarification. My variant is SM-G955FD Indian variant. This method works 100% on SM-G955FD / F Exenos variants. I dont tested on other variants
kasim1 said:
wow,
no replies !?
Any1 else test it? @admirysolutions which carrier you have?
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This will not work on the US Snapdragon variant, so that's why no one is replying.
Hey, with this method your warranty is still void?
Draegloth said:
Hey, with this method your warranty is still void?
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bro, I dont care about warranty. If you do care ....Please dont root.
admirysolutions said:
bro, I dont care about warranty. If you do care ....Please dont root.
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I guess many of us cares about warranty, even if they want to root their phone (including me, without using custom rom). Too shame if you have root on your device, and it's stops working you aren't covered anymore even if you can demonstrably that it caused by defected hardwares.
ps: I had the same situation with my LG G4 with it's motherboard issue. They didn't wanted to fix it, even LG acknowledged that those phones have defective motherboard (And the fault was still in production).
Shame on LG...
Draegloth said:
Hey, with this method your warranty is still void?
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Any method of rooting voids your warranty.
Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
GreatItami said:
Any method of rooting voids your warranty.
Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
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Thank you, really appreciate your answer.
Draegloth said:
Thank you, really appreciate your answer.
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Bro, you are from Hungary. By European union laws tampering with software doesn't void warranty.
NeedleGames said:
Bro, you are from Hungary. By European union laws tampering with software doesn't void warranty.
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I've got no idea, but they still rejected my phone. Can you help me to link this EU law what I could refer to? Probably if its true I'm going to court.
Thanks in advance! :victory:
Draegloth said:
I've got no idea, but they still rejected my phone. Can you help me to link this EU law what I could refer to? Probably if its true I'm going to court.
Thanks in advance! :victory:
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Why can nobody do a simple google search? I have to do this every time for others. I'm not linking to the actual law because I don't have time but go here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
NeedleGames said:
Why can nobody do a simple google search? I have to do this every time for others. I'm not linking to the actual law because I don't have time but go here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
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I can google and I did that, but Ive found no real solution thats why I asked it here. Not to mention that ive found that topic, but there werent any suggestions about a hungarian permutation of this law. Since mine was declined probably because there arent any local law . Even your reply style wasn't really nice I appreciate your answer.
Thanks
Draegloth said:
I can google and I did that, but Ive found no real solution thats why I asked it here. Not to mention that ive found that topic, but there werent any suggestions about a hungarian permutation of this law. Since mine was declined probably because there arent any local law . Even your reply style wasn't really nice I appreciate your answer.
Thanks
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It's already in EU so all laws apply. No need for local laws.
Draegloth said:
I guess many of us cares about warranty, even if they want to root their phone (including me, without using custom rom). Too shame if you have root on your device, and it's stops working you aren't covered anymore even if you can demonstrably that it caused by defected hardwares.
ps: I had the same situation with my LG G4 with it's motherboard issue. They didn't wanted to fix it, even LG acknowledged that those phones have defective motherboard (And the fault was still in production).
Shame on LG...
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Because of Hungarian and EU laws, even if Knox is triggered, Samsung can't refuse repairs within warranty But as soon as it is triggered, a few features will stop working and you'll need to be on a custom ROM for them to work (stuff like Samsung Health, pretty much everything Knox related, and of course Samsung Pay).
As it was said before, this regulation is to be used even if there's no local law about it. You can ALWAYS reference it towards the manufacturer. However Samsung in the EU, especially with flagships, is quite nice. Premium category, premium support, etc., they usually even replace stuff that was damaged by the user.
I have a G955FD also. I'll be trying this when I can to confirm. Yeah I returned my unlocked G955U because I hear there is no way in hell that was going to get the bootloader unlocked. All I want is to root my phone and do some minor tweaks, no change in ROM is fine with me. Maybe tomorrow if I can understand the steps well. I'm a noob so I'll have to make sure I get the steps right.
frankie1220 said:
I have a G955FD also. I'll be trying this when I can to confirm. Yeah I returned my unlocked G955U because I hear there is no way in hell that was going to get the bootloader unlocked. All I want is to root my phone and do some minor tweaks, no change in ROM is fine with me. Maybe tomorrow if I can understand the steps well. I'm a noob so I'll have to make sure I get the steps right.
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Root was figured out for the USA Snapdragon S8+, and will trickle down to the S8 as well when the appropriate files are found. S8+ release will be any day now. Bootloader still faces the same issue.
TheLastSidekick said:
Root was figured out for the USA Snapdragon S8+, and will trickle down to the S8 as well when the appropriate files are found. S8+ release will be any day now. Bootloader still faces the same issue.
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That's interesting. All the posts I read is that there's no way it would ever be rooted because of the bootloader. This is my first international phone, so I think it would be fine to steer away from the Snapdragon for a change.
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frankie1220 said:
That's interesting. All the posts I read is that there's no way it would ever be rooted because of the bootloader. This is my first international phone, so I think it would be fine to steer away from the Snapdragon for a change.
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By all means, probably a good idea. Just simply updating you with the fact Snapdragon has root too, just not bootloader unlock.
I have the UAE version (G955FD) with build G955FXXU1AQG5.
THIS METHOD WORKS! Thank You!
I am not a developer, I am just a guy that likes to do minor tweaks with root access.
But I'm wondering if from step 12 onward, wouldn't it be possible to just load verity and supersu on the SDCard prior starting this whole process and just flash it that way rather than sideloading? Should be the same thing.
One more thing is I got this notification after the whole root process and installing all apps saying "unauthorized access blah blah, restart to fix." This was shown by the device management. I couldn't stop that notification from popping up even after swiping away. What I did was I just froze SecurityLogAgent 5.1.09 with Titanium and that solved that problem.