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I'm close to my 14 days return period at bb and suddenly I noticed that the glass screen on my Iconia is separating a bit noticeable enough for my fingers to feel it when I touch that section. It is the area at the docking connector side, the screen is raised a bit higher than the side metal bezel. When I pushed it down hard it flushed back in but raised again after some time. I never noticed it before and I've been really using it daily for more than a week now and only until yesterday I saw this. I feel really bad because I really love my Iconia and was really planning to keep it. I had the same issue with my HTC EVO, but I held on to it because I've read in the EVO forum that others have even worst screen separation and mine wasn't as bad. So I'm wondering if most Iconias have this issue so I don't need to return it anymore. I've checked the display unit at bb and it has same screen lifting around that section near the docking connector.
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Same issue here. I noticed it the other day. I have a week left on my 14 day return period. Honestly it is not that big of a problem to me. I cannot push it back down, I just figured it was made that way. I noticed the demo unit at my local best buy was the same way. I do not think it is a deal breaker to me.
Yeah mine is like that too :\
MMm - no trouble here yet. Then again I was a first generation nook owner who never had a button crack, and those were hard to find ;-)
I take mine to and from work every day and use it at least 2 hours a day not counting weekend software development time where it's my test platform, so you could call mine pretty high wear and tear.
So it seems like it is common to have that slight lift on the screen and hopefully will not get worst than it is. I will just keep it and not replace with another one, who knows the replacement might even be worst or have dust like the others were complaining. I've put too much time setting this up and I really love it even with all the criticism it gets from other users.
I feel a slight raise on mine - but far from calling it an issue.
There's some dust particles getting under there now...think Staples would accept a return for that? Still in my 14 days. It's annoying.
Staples told me they would take it back for any reason in 14 days... even if you just decided you didn't like it.
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There's some dust particles getting under there now...think Staples would accept a return for that? Still in my 14 days. It's annoying.
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Oh no, I hate dust inside the screen. Was your screen raised really high or just a bit?
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lol. There shouldn't be any question at all....take it back.
I'm not returning mine but this is irritating for sure
I believe it is designed that way, just as there is the gap between the glass and frame on the opposite side (where the microphone is placed in the center).
I for one find the A500 a great piece of hardware, and this doesn't bother me a bit... I actually hadn't noticed until you mentioned it here ;-)
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Raised here as well
Looks like an intentional raise to me though. The sides are flush and begin to raise about 1.5 inches in from the side of the tablet toward the center until it reaches it's highest point dead center to the dock port. Then back down by the same amount.
If it is not intentional it sure is a nicely implemented defect.
If I run my finger along the edge of the screen I can feel the glass being raised ever so slightly, fractions of a millimeter, towards the middle, above the dock connector.
Though as I look closer and use a metal ruler I find that it's not the glass that is raised but rather the bezel that is lowered slightly in the middle, above the connector.
All of them I have seen are like that, don't think its a defect at all.
It looks like it is easy for dust to get in past the microsd slot area as you can see the back of the screen through the cracks. I would be careful outside and in dusty areas. I am going to look for a sleeve that covers it or something...it should be sealed better than this.
I haven't had any dust yet, (hopefully never) and my screen is raised. (or the bezel is lowered)
I'm getting that too now. It's definately raised. I checked when the OP first posted this and it was not like this. Now I can press on the glass just above and slightly to the right of the dock connector and the screen goes down flatter. The raised area is not quite centered. I've had this tablet 3 days shy of 1 month.
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A lot of people have got their new wood back Moto X's now so I thought I'd start a thread for discussion specific to that. I've seen both love and hate for them.
Personally, I was very disappointed by my Walnut back. I knew the backs were finished to look like their specific wood choice, but I was still expecting real wood with real grains. Unfortunately, it appears the real wood is just covered by a fake printed wood grain design much like the wood paneling and finishes of furniture and other electronics. It has a very unnatural, papery feel as well. Overall very disappointing, especially when a cheap skin can accomplish the same thing.
Quality control also seems to be lacking. My back was perfectly smooth but there are a number or reports of people with bumps, dents, and scratches. Great example here which looks like a bad application of the wood laminate (or whatever it is they're using for the surface grain).
I'm not trying to turn people away from getting the wood backs (it's still a great look) but I do want people to know what they're actually getting. I've exchanged mine for bamboo back, which is true bamboo and not a finish, but also ordered a DE with a second code I had just in case (will return one of them).
I had bamboo but due to some charging issue returned mine for walnut, I much prefer the black trim than white. I plan to get a real wood back by Toast and stick it on, but it depends on how much I like the pattern of mine walnut back when I received it, if it look nice enough I can just stick a wet apply screen protector on it and be done with.
Bamboo is the nicest I think and I would have stuck with it if isn't for the white trim. Also with bamboo if you pay attention to the edges, they are darker because it's where the cover is being glued to the phone, so it take away the look a little. I also feel the bamboo back being quit thin so I'm not sure how the walnut/ebony back will be.
Overall I much prefer fully black phone. I have a strong dislike of iPhones, so that may be one reason why I can't stand white phones.
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My ebony back had me bummed as soon as I opened the box. First, it had a white or greyish speck right in the middle of the back. It was not a scratch or dent. It had no depression of any kind; it was just not wood color. Second there was some marring around the flash and in the upper corners.
I knew it wasn't real ebony, but I at least expected something along the lines of laminate flooring or a cheap guitar. I agree with your assessment that it looks and feels like paper. Even without my unit's specific flaws, I am surprised that anyone would find this to be a good thing. Perhaps it is my experience of years ago working with veneer and cabinetry, but after seeing it I didn't even bother to turn it on.
I have to agree with this post honestly. I had ordered a "regular" back Moto X right before Christmas eve and was very happy with it! Then, when the rest of the wood backs came out on January 21, I was within my "return period" so I opted to order a Moto X with ebony back and then was going to return my original Moto X.
I got the ebony one like 3 days after placing the order and was seriously not too impressed. I think, I too, was expecting something different from what I received. I think the OP explained it best that it has a very paper feeling. It honestly felt like an "insert" and just didn't feel as nice as the regular back. Plus, I am VERY anal about keeping my things looking nice for the long-haul. I felt like the wood back just wouldn't old up over time, mostly with like palm sweat I was worried would eventually distort the look of the wood. Thankfully there were no dents or other oddities like the image I posted, it just wasn't what I was expecting it to be. I think I would've preferred it better if it was like a laminate or something like that. I ended up returning it in favor of keeping the original Moto X I bought.
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Bamboo is the nicest I think and I would have stuck with it if isn't for the white trim. Also with bamboo if you pay attention to the edges, they are darker because it's where the cover is being glued to the phone, so it take away the look a little. I also feel the bamboo back being quit thin so I'm not sure how the walnut/ebony back will be.
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I like my bamboo back but I do agree that being forced to have the white trim is a let down. Also I noticed the darkening around the edges and glue makes sense. I have a black front and I'm getting a black bumper case to cover the white trim and have a slight level of protection.
I absolutely love my walnut back. It's smooth and feels perfect.
I ordered walnut and dont know if im going to like it or not.
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I got the ebony and it's a beauty. Definitely scratch prone though. In fact there were scruffs right out of the box. Gonna get a full body protector for it instead of a case so I can see the beauty
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Hate how smooth the wood back is. Got the ebony and it looks gorgeous, but the feel just isn't there for me. I also don't really care for the edges that are made of metal and are sharp. The plastic backs are much more comfortable and don't make me nervous about dropping it.
Maybe I am just picky.
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Hate how smooth the wood back is. Got the ebony and it looks gorgeous, but the feel just isn't there for me. I also don't really care for the edges that are made of metal and are sharp. The plastic backs are much more comfortable and don't make me nervous about dropping it.
Maybe I am just picky.
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Are you sure that edges are made of metal?
nm.
do the toast covers add much thickness? I've never seen one live.
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I think it depend on which wood color you get, the walnut and ebony ones supposed to come with metal.
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I have a walnut back and the edges are plastic.
I've returned 1 Ebony backed Moto X because of an imperfection in the finish that was applied. It looks like the back was smudged or something before the finish was dry. I've ordered another one because aside from that, I didn't have any problems with the look and feel. It's an actual wood back so I feel like scratches and things of those nature will give it character! I could be fooling myself though.
Related to the Toast models, I just applied one to my gf's Moto X (bamboo) on Friday night and she really likes it. The white backing was definitely picking up a ton of dirt and scratches so it was very much needed. It actually surprised me that the backing doesn't add much to the dimensions of the phone. From what I can tell, it's actually pretty transparent feel wise with the edges.
I just received my Ebony today, and I'm in love with it. (Admittedly, it's the first new phone I've had since my HTC Inspire 3 years ago!) So anything at this point will feel amazing lol. I also haven't handled the regular version moto x. The ebony back is kind of papery as some have said, but I like the way it feels compared to my old aluminum/metal HTC Inspire. No imperfections in the finish at all. Very happy with it. My one and only gripe, is with sweaty hands, it can get a little slippery, but the device is so small i can almost wrap my one hand around the entire thing lol
I got my bamboo moto yesterday. Overall it feels simply amazing in the hand,it's just as ergonomic as the plastic and woven backs. The only worries I had were that it had some weird like damage to it, but after seeing others' bamboo moto,it's apparently a feature or unique look to the bamboo back. As others are saying, there is a dark border around the edges but you'll grow on it or learn to ignore it it isn't that big a deal. The only worries I have with the wood back are my very, very oily and sometimes sweaty hands as I'm at afraid I'll ruin the back. Overall, the bamboo is my favorite aesthetically and ergonomically. I recommend it over the sandy feeling Ebony or Walnut.
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The teak backs look awesome in person
i just received my bamboo today. i like it a lot but im a little disappointed that the wood doesnt come up flush with the white around it. theres a lip aroound it instead. its definitely real wood. i think they applied some kind of layer to protect it. remember the moto x does come with a nano coating to make it water resistant. so this might be whats applied to the wood also. overall im pleased since bamboo is really a plant rather than a tree so the layers are naturally thin.
My Walnut is perfect.
Got my bamboo on Friday and might send it back. It too has about 10-12 bumps on it also. Most are towards the bottom half of the device.
Its going to go back, I'm not happy with it. Will see if they can work out getting the extra $30 off again this time round...I still have a mesh black one that was also going to go back, but will have to hold onto it until the new one arrives.
It's on all of our minds. Maybe it's just a bad batch or maybe it's really real. Regardless, has anyone actually *returned* theirs just based off of fear?
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that'd be pretty pathetic, imo.
we're adults, not children.
it COULD bend? so what? Do you retun your device because you COULD drop it and the screen smashes into 1000000 pieces?
Not on everyone's mind at all, certainly not mine. I just wouldn't ever put a phone of that size (no matter what make) in a back pocket for example where it would be stressed in such ways. In the UK you can't return it because something may happen anyway, so it would be a moot point. You could only return it within 14 days if bought directly off the internet under the distant selling rules.
My pencil MAY break the point. Let me return the whole lot of them and get some pens
I might break some wind, ....oh wait. No not on mind what so ever!
Definitely not. Considering what these devices are (hand held internet PCs) I am surprised people expect indestructibility. I wouldn't sit on my laptop or Surface Pro. Why would I sit my phone and expect nothing could happen?
When is this going to end? Just when I haven't seen anything on bending for a week or so, up pop's a post about it in some form or the other. I can not imagine after using this phone for 2 months that it will bend unless its done on purpose or as some say in this thread left in a pant's pocket and bent that way. If the fear is so great, lock yourself in a room and stay away from all large size phones.
My device is slightly warped though I literally took care of it. I always held it in my front left pocket without anything else inside. I wear regular jeans and also use a Spigen Rugged Armor. I might try to RMA it though if the area around the volume buttons will be damaged sooner or later.
Did the rugged armor warp your frame? I just ordered that same case yesterday....
I didn't return 2 of them because of fear of bending. I returned 2 of them because they were bent.
Anyone else have very faint surface scratches on the back of their phone? No idea how I got them on this supposedly sturdy phone, but they are there. The phone has been on microfiber resting at all times.
My question is this, anyone think we can polish the back to get light scratches out?
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I have this same thing going on, day 3 with the device. They're not that noticable but I know they're there and that's what bugs me. Somewhere I read said it could be scratches in oleophobic coating... IDK. JerryRigEverythings scratch test didn't show any markings until around 8 on the hardness scale.
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I have this same thing going on, day 3 with the device. They're not that noticable but I know they're there and that's what bugs me. Somewhere I read said it could be scratches in oleophobic coating... IDK. JerryRigEverythings scratch test didn't show any markings until around 8 on the hardness scale.
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Yea I saw the video. That's what has me annoyed. Essentials talk of durability is well documented. Add that to the fact that no cases are readily available means you kinda need to just put up with whatever happens. I'm wondering if we can just use a mild polish on the back to alleviate any minor scratches. Mine are almost invisible, but I their presence at all on a phone I baby, bothers me.
I think baking soda and water would do the trick.
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I began to see fine scratches on the back of mine within days. I carry it in my front pocket with nothing else. I'm not aware of any rough treatment at all. I feel disappointed as well.
Same problem here ,another thing to be disappointed besides the Camera.
Same here
I was getting some as well. Try the polish out and see if it works? I don't think anyones tried it yet. Also if you don't mind covering the back you can always throw a skin on it. Also makes the phone a lot less slippery
I had quite a few on my first unit. My replacement unit I have none so far but I put a dbrand skin on it the minute I took it out of the box. My first one also had some scratches in the titanium near the charging port and a nick on the side that came from who knows what.
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I had quite a few on my first unit. My replacement unit I have none so far but I put a dbrand skin on it the minute I took it out of the box. My first one also had some scratches in the titanium near the charging port and a nick on the side that came from who knows what.
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Interesting. Have you complained to customer support about scratches? I wonder what their take is.
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I had quite a few on my first unit. My replacement unit I have none so far but I put a dbrand skin on it the minute I took it out of the box. My first one also had some scratches in the titanium near the charging port and a nick on the side that came from who knows what.
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I also have fine scratches on the back of mine, with scratches near the USB c port. I also have a replacement supposedly on the way, but for freezing & random reboot issues. What did they replace your phone for? How long did it take for you to get the replacement?
Mine was for bad light bleed and the coating on the titanium coming off. Now I have to exchange again because the one they sent me has no speaker grille.
They sent the replacement next day air after they called to confirm. I had already sent my defective device in. This was before they started doing advanced replacement.
I wish you hadn't said anything.. I have them too
Maybe they could be polished out, but if it scratches this easily they are destined to return.
The phone is not supposed to be scratch proof. I'll be surprised if they'll take your phone back just because of slight scratched. Put it in a sleeve to install vinyl backing for peace of mind.
Mine had scratches from day one... lol Just placed my replacement order yesterday but I don't expect to get it anytime soon. Phone is off and collecting dust til I get the box to return it. They stated they wouldn't have any new devices (hopefully ones w/o much of the hardware issues like the speaker grille) in stock until this week when they emailed me last week.
I ended up getting a replacement from essential and placing a skin on the back to protect from getting these fine scratches. I don't hate it as much as I thought I would, I miss the shiny back but I like not having scratches and finger prints all over the back. Wahoo!
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Had mine for over six weeks, and no scratches here.
I have a ton of scratches near the camera and magnet ports. No idea how they got there since I carry my phone in my pocket with nothing else in it. The only thing I could think of would be resting it on it's back on a table and sliding it to pick it up? Odd how it is only around the top part. Fingerprint sensor and below is spotless.
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I have a ton of scratches near the camera and magnet ports. No idea how they got there since I carry my phone in my pocket with nothing else in it. The only thing I could think of would be resting it on it's back on a table and sliding it to pick it up? Odd how it is only around the top part. Fingerprint sensor and below is spotless.
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Close to that area are the magnets, magnets attract metal and sand, sand is one of the few things that can scratch glass and ceramic. Sometimes even if we believe or not we have sand in our packets due to daily life. Then we have scratches without knowing where we scratched.
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I don't understand people complaining about micro scratches like it's something wrong with the phone? If you live in a place that has sand then you should have some type of protection on your device if you don't want scratches. Sand (silica) is harder than any coating and will scratch any phone. It also can become ubiquitous. One of the persons here literally has a user pic with them on the beach! Why make it Essentials fault when your failure to protect your phone is the issue?
I got my scratches at my corporate office in my cube. Nowhere near beach or anything of that sort. Was just playing with it and setting it up. Anyone who's not using any protection on the back and have been using it regularly saying they don't have any scratches, please share a close up video of your phone's back in nice HD detail close up so we can be in awe of your magical device with no scratches. Be sure to move it around under a bright light too. Lol. Be real people, you're gonna get scratches without a protection, whether it's a skin, case or whatever.
So here is the situation. My PH-1, defying logic, has a cracked screen despite me having a case and a screen protector on it. It started out as a hairline crack at the top of the screen but also with a fair amount of corner damage. What doesn't make any sense is that before I purchased the case and screen protector the phone survived quite a few drops without a scratch. Yesterday I dropped it again, on its back, and upon turning the phone over know it is really shattered. Still works but it is in rough shape.
I scored the phone on the Sprint deal at 145 plus the camera so I can't really complain if I have to spend another 199 to have a new phone. The problem is, I don't want to spend another 199 if the same thing is going to happen again. I have never had a phone crack with both a case and a screen protector installed before. That being said, the screen protector was a poor fit and did not cover the corners at all. It almost seems as if the case had a negative effect which is also very odd. No damage before installing the case.
Just wondering if this is a rare occasion or if it is common.
I really like the phone and I want the company to succeed. But if they are this fragile I would probably pick up an LG or an HTC.
I am on Verizon so a One Plus isn't an option.
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So here is the situation. My PH-1, defying logic, has a cracked screen despite me having a case and a screen protector on it. It started out as a hairline crack at the top of the screen but also with a fair amount of corner damage. What doesn't make any sense is that before I purchased the case and screen protector the phone survived quite a few drops without a scratch. Yesterday I dropped it again, on its back, and upon turning the phone over know it is really shattered. Still works but it is in rough shape.
I scored the phone on the Sprint deal at 145 plus the camera so I can't really complain if I have to spend another 199 to have a new phone. The problem is, I don't want to spend another 199 if the same thing is going to happen again. I have never had a phone crack with both a case and a screen protector installed before. That being said, the screen protector was a poor fit and did not cover the corners at all. It almost seems as if the case had a negative effect which is also very odd. No damage before installing the case.
Just wondering if this is a rare occasion or if it is common.
I really like the phone and I want the company to succeed. But if they are this fragile I would probably pick up an LG or an HTC.
I am on Verizon so a One Plus isn't an option.
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I think what happened to you is a one off. You should go buy a lotto ticket maybe? On the bright side, you'd still be paying less than what I paid for 1 PH-1 with the 360 cam, used. I bought my combo from swappa in mint condition for $390. You're only at $344, and you got 2 phones Granted one bit the dust. But if I were you, I'd get the replacement. I'm not sure there is a better phone out yet, imo. Only thing to make this phone better on gen 2 would be to get rid of the black bar at the bottom so it is completely bezeless, and to up the IP rating to 68 at LEAST 67. Motorized selfie cam? No notch? That would be nice. I hardly ever use the selfie cam anyway. Just my $0.02. If mine broke, I'd be buying another one
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I think what happened to you is a one off. You should go buy a lotto ticket maybe? On the bright side, you'd still be paying less than what I paid for 1 PH-1 with the 360 cam, used. I bought my combo from swappa in mint condition for $390. You're only at $344, and you got 2 phones Granted one bit the dust. But if I were you, I'd get the replacement. I'm not sure there is a better phone out yet, imo. Only thing to make this phone better on gen 2 would be to get rid of the black bar at the bottom so it is completely bezeless, and to up the IP rating to 68 at LEAST 67. Motorized selfie cam? No notch? That would be nice. I hardly ever use the selfie cam anyway. Just my $0.02. If mine broke, I'd be buying another one
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That's kind of what I was thinking. Just hoping to NOT see other reports of similar breakage.
Thanks for the .02
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That's kind of what I was thinking. Just hoping to NOT see other reports of similar breakage.
Thanks for the .02
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I literally just put my broken one in the mailbox to go back to Essential (Asurion is actually the insurance claim handling company). Mailman hasn't even picked it up yet. I cloned everything into the new replacement last night w/TWRP. So, there was virtually no on-screen setup (security/fingerprints had to be redone), and I'm back up and running as if my phone was simply repaired. That's something that's just not possible with a different phone.
Essential was quick about responding. They take 1 biz day to process and the replacement is sent FedEx Standard overnight.
I am overall disappointed with the fragility of the phone as its durability was a major selling point for me. Essential still has that PH-1 bouncing and tumbling on concrete on their homepage. But, right now there is not another phone with the dimensions, design quality, and components that can compare to this. Now, if I broke another one, I probably would not do it again, unless the price was at least half.
I am a little concerned about your situation being that you had screen protection and a case. But if I were you, I would still do the replacement, and try completely different protective devices. Especially since you got such a deal on the first one, I think it would be a no-brainer for me. I paid $350 for mine w/no 360 cam, and I still did the replacement.
I mean, even knowing this outcome, (I'm $550 in at this point) I still don't think I would have went for the OnePlus 5T. I really appreciate the form factor of this phone, and I plan to baby this replacement.
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I literally just put my broken one in the mailbox to go back to Essential (Asurion is actually the insurance claim handling company). Mailman hasn't even picked it up yet. I cloned everything into the new replacement last night w/TWRP. So, there was virtually no on-screen setup (security/fingerprints had to be redone), and I'm back up and running as if my phone was simply repaired. That's something that's just not possible with a different phone.
Essential was quick about responding. They take 1 biz day to process and the replacement is sent FedEx Standard overnight.
I am overall disappointed with the fragility of the phone as its durability was a major selling point for me. Essential still has that PH-1 bouncing and tumbling on concrete on their homepage. But, right now there is not another phone with the dimensions, design quality, and components that can compare to this. Now, if I broke another one, I probably would not do it again, unless the price was at least half.
I am a little concerned about your situation being that you had screen protection and a case. But if I were you, I would still do the replacement, and try completely different protective devices. Especially since you got such a deal on the first one, I think it would be a no-brainer for me. I paid $350 for mine w/no 360 cam, and I still did the replacement.
I mean, even knowing this outcome, (I'm $550 in at this point) I still don't think I would have went for the OnePlus 5T. I really appreciate the form factor of this phone, and I plan to baby this replacement.
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Yeah, I am addicted to the form factor after having the hand stretching, ache causing Nexus 6. And the fingerprint scanner for unlocking and notifications. What caused your breakage? Did you have a case and/or screen protector?
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Yeah, I am addicted to the form factor after having the hand stretching, ache causing Nexus 6. And the fingerprint scanner for unlocking and notifications. What caused your breakage? Did you have a case and/or screen protector?
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Mine fell from my back pocket onto concrete, about 1.5 ft drop. I had a case.... in my backpack . It's just too pretty a phone to want to case it much. But, that's all over for me now.
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Mine fell from my back pocket onto concrete, about 1.5 ft drop. I had a case.... in my backpack . It's just too pretty a phone to want to case it much. But, that's all over for me now.
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You cracked yours?
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Yep I did. I bet if I could have watched it happen in slow motion, it would have looked just like the video on the Essential homepage, except...crack!
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So here is the situation. My PH-1, defying logic, has a cracked screen despite me having a case and a screen protector on it. It started out as a hairline crack at the top of the screen but also with a fair amount of corner damage. What doesn't make any sense is that before I purchased the case and screen protector the phone survived quite a few drops without a scratch. Yesterday I dropped it again, on its back, and upon turning the phone over know it is really shattered. Still works but it is in rough shape.
I scored the phone on the Sprint deal at 145 plus the camera so I can't really complain if I have to spend another 199 to have a new phone. The problem is, I don't want to spend another 199 if the same thing is going to happen again. I have never had a phone crack with both a case and a screen protector installed before. That being said, the screen protector was a poor fit and did not cover the corners at all. It almost seems as if the case had a negative effect which is also very odd. No damage before installing the case.
Just wondering if this is a rare occasion or if it is common.
I really like the phone and I want the company to succeed. But if they are this fragile I would probably pick up an LG or an HTC.
I am on Verizon so a One Plus isn't an option.
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I try not to drop fragile electronic devices.
On the other hand I can be a dolt so I always get insurance.
I got a SquareTrade coverage on this phone right after I got it.
It was $140 for three years with a $75 deductible for repairs.
So I suggest getting a SquareTrade warranty on the next one.
It also adds value when you want to sell it.
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I got a SquareTrade coverage on this phone right after I got it. It was $140 for three years with a $75 deductible for repairs. So I suggest getting a SquareTrade warranty on the next one.
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Since the 'out-of-warranty' replacement is $199, unless you think you might go through more than one replacement, neither the extended warranty from Essential, or the price you gave for SquareTrade would be worth it. That's why I never sign up for them. I figure if I manage to break my device, the repair or replacement fee is going to be either my incentive to be extra careful from then til the next device, or impetus to sell it and try something else.
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despite me having a case and a screen protector on it.
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@chiadrum Mind letting us know which make/models of case and screen protector you had on it when this happened?
GospelNerd said:
Since the 'out-of-warranty' replacement is $199, unless you think you might go through more than one replacement, neither the extended warranty from Essential, or the price you gave for SquareTrade would be worth it. That's why I never sign up for them. I figure if I manage to break my device, the repair or replacement fee is going to be either my incentive to be extra careful from then til the next device, or impetus to sell it and try something else.
@chiadrum Mind letting us know which make/models of case and screen protector you had on it when this happened?
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Actually, $140+$75 = $215 which is a wash if you have one incident at $200.
It also covers any other issue for three years, so YMMV.
But even a bricked device would be covered.
One might argue that insurance is never worth it. you can only make the argument until the first time you drop and break your device, have a battery issue, brick or anything else.
I don't typically break or lose my phones, but there is a first time for everything.
YMMV
tech_head said:
Actually, $140+$75 = $215 which is a wash if you have one incident at $200.
It also covers any other issue for three years, so YMMV.
But even a bricked device would be covered.
One might argue that insurance is never worth it. you can only make the argument until the first time you drop and break your device, have a battery issue, brick or anything else.
I don't typically break or lose my phones, but there is a first time for everything.
YMMV
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You have to pay the initial$140 either way, so it's $75 vs $200
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avd said:
You have to pay the initial$140 either way, so it's $75 vs $200
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Unless there is a deductable.
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GospelNerd said:
Since the 'out-of-warranty' replacement is $199, unless you think you might go through more than one replacement, neither the extended warranty from Essential, or the price you gave for SquareTrade would be worth it. That's why I never sign up for them. I figure if I manage to break my device, the repair or replacement fee is going to be either my incentive to be extra careful from then til the next device, or impetus to sell it and try something else.
@chiadrum Mind letting us know which make/models of case and screen protector you had on it when this happened?
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Case was the Tudia without the notch for the 360 cam, so a full coverage case in other words. Fits pretty snug and covers the edges for sure. Screen protectors were mocolo. Screen protector can be placed on the phone even with the case on, that is how much screen is still exposed even with the protector. Also, the phone was not nearly as responsive to touch with that protector on. Really surprised that the case didn't do the trick with the corner covered. The corner is where the downfall began.
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It almost seems as if the case had a negative effect which is also very odd.
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Can you elaborate on this statement in the OP? Got any pics?
I got some of those edge-only adhesive screen protectors with the black borders, which leaves a tiny amount of screen glass exposed (barely 1mm on top [which allows for the speaker opening], and on bottom, and probably 0.5mm on either side). It appears that even with that gap, only the screen protector or the plastic around the screen could make initial contact on a fall. But, my Incipio clear case doesn't fit without catching the edges of the protector and audibly making them peel up (not necessarily visibly). So it's not wearing a case at the moment.
I have a Tudia Lula 2.0 case coming (the one with the 360 cam cutout), so your incident is a little concerning.
I don't care about the durability of a case or screen protector as long as they do their job when it matters, and that is to prevent the phone itself from sustaining damage. But it's for naught if they don't prevent, or worse even cause damage.
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Can you elaborate on this statement in the OP? Got any pics?
I got some of those edge-only adhesive screen protectors with the black borders, which leaves a tiny amount of screen glass exposed (barely 1mm on top [which allows for the speaker opening], and on bottom, and probably 0.5mm on either side). It appears that even with that gap, only the screen protector or the plastic around the screen could make initial contact on a fall. But, my Incipio clear case doesn't fit without catching the edges of the protector and audibly making them peel up (not necessarily visibly). So it's not wearing a case at the moment.
I have a Tudia Lula 2.0 case coming (the one with the 360 cam cutout), so your incident is a little concerning.
I don't care about the durability of a case or screen protector as long as they do their job when it matters, and that is to prevent the phone itself from sustaining damage. But it's for naught if they don't prevent, or worse even cause damage.
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I don't think the Essential is any more or less fragile than other phones.
My daughter dropped her S9 in a case with a green protector.
$149 to replaced the device.
tech_head said:
I don't think the Essential is any more or less fragile than other phones.
My daughter dropped her S9 in a case with a green protector.
$149 to replaced the device.
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I think phones with an edge to edge screen are way more susceptible to damage from a drop than phones with bezels or whatever you call them on all 4 sides. Unless you get a bulky case with raised edges that completely obliterates the beautiful design of the phone a case will probably provide little to no protection in a drop. The same is true of a screen protector because it provides zero protection for the edges of the glass.
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I think phones with an edge to edge screen are way more susceptible to damage from a drop than phones with bezels or whatever you call them on all 4 sides. Unless you get a bulky case with raised edges that completely obliterates the beautiful design of the phone a case will probably provide little to no protection in a drop. The same is true of a screen protector because it provides zero protection for the edges of the glass.
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Fair point. I always said screw design,give me a tank.I did pull the trigger on the replacement.Got it in a day.Signed up for OTA 8.1 and had it in a couple of hours.Now I just have to baby this thing.And this one is fully unlocked.My original was a Sprint variant and it was bugging out when I pulled the SIM and I could never have used it on vacation overseas.
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Can you elaborate on this statement in the OP? Got any pics?
I got some of those edge-only adhesive screen protectors with the black borders, which leaves a tiny amount of screen glass exposed (barely 1mm on top [which allows for the speaker opening], and on bottom, and probably 0.5mm on either side). It appears that even with that gap, only the screen protector or the plastic around the screen could make initial contact on a fall. But, my Incipio clear case doesn't fit without catching the edges of the protector and audibly making them peel up (not necessarily visibly). So it's not wearing a case at the moment.
I have a Tudia Lula 2.0 case coming (the one with the 360 cam cutout), so your incident is a little concerning.
I don't care about the durability of a case or screen protector as long as they do their job when it matters, and that is to prevent the phone itself from sustaining damage. But it's for naught if they don't prevent, or worse even cause damage.
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Sorry just seeing this now.Cant find a pic but there was a gash on the corner and a crack across the top.Then one last drop and it was a spiderweb.
Hey Guys,
I am from Dubai, United Arab Emirates. I dropped my 3 month old Essential Phone on concrete floor face down and the display is completely smashed in one corner and has cracks all over the screen. Mine broke because I had neither the case nor any screen protector on the phone.
I am planning for the 199$ replacement but heard from them that its a refurbished device. Just want to know whether the refurbished replacement device is void and free of any scratches/ dents or any other physical defects on the body of the phone. And also the overall quality of the phone is good before I take this plunge.
Thanks,
Zulfiqar