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Hey guys, I'm satisfied with almost every aspect of the prophet, except battery time...
I mean in suspend the battery is great. But what if you want to do any real work on the prophet? This is what I get:
Screen off, Wifi on (useful for skype, IMs etc.)
3.45 hrs from full charge
Screen on, all else off (word processing, games etc.)
3.50 hrs from full charge
Screen on, Wifi on (email, internet)
3.40 hrs from full charge
Now tell me if this is not too little?
This is off course with normal battery.
You could set your screen to the lowest brightness that you can use also set the wifi to its lowest power setting these 2 functiions are the biggest users of power in my view
Radio ON, Wifi OFF, Screen backlight at level 2 or 3 (when outside). Some data connections, few Wifi cnx too (then turned OFF), 1 or 2 syncs using Bluetooth and my SPV M600 battery runs about 5Hrs according to my "upmeter" ( free at http://ae.inc.ru )
You can buy on Ebay a 1800mah bat. (50% more power than the original bat.)
just curious,
do u have phm traylaunch enabled ?
mine sux the juice out of my prophet whenever I enabled the traylaunch..
Is that 1800 mAh battery with extended thickness? if not it might be worth it.
I dont use phm tray launcher. But wifi and display are on quite frequently.
farbird said:
just curious,
do u have phm traylaunch enabled ?
mine sux the juice out of my prophet whenever I enabled the traylaunch..
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I do have PHM TrayLaunch installed but did not notice faster battery drain. Is this something you just experienced or did anyone else comment about this problem?
Battery is way shorter in the Prophet than in any other device i've had before. Same usage of course.
I could live with this limit, but can not stand with some other wm5 imposse on us, such as max size on contact notes field, or the inability to sync via BT.
Am I the only one missing my trusted JAM?
I am not sure its shorter than in other devices of similar features, but I do know for me its not enough. I think the Jam would actually be way shorter with Xscale over omap processor. So no, i would not say you've made the wrong choice.
Not sure what you mean about no synching over BT? It should work fine!
BTW, anyone know about this 1800mAh battery on ebay that apparently does not increase thickness?
try this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9720781998
krale said:
I am not sure its shorter than in other devices of similar features, but I do know for me its not enough. I think the Jam would actually be way shorter with Xscale over omap processor. So no, i would not say you've made the wrong choice.
Not sure what you mean about no synching over BT? It should work fine!
BTW, anyone know about this 1800mAh battery on ebay that apparently does not increase thickness?
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Thanks for your comment.
IMHO battery life IS shorter, as a matter of fact. I know about the OMAP, but it takes two of them, so.....
BT syncing simply does not work. Maybe it's a matter of XP-WM5 combination, but fact is that my prophet "does not find a PC with the active Sync service" Any help on that?
I've been able to get TomTom 5 to work, pair with several headsets and handsfree devices, but no way around the Active Sync issue, no matter what the COM ports or tricks I've tried. I even changed BT drivers from Widcomm to MS in my notebook, same result.
I haven't read about the large capacity battery, but if this is going to be "oversized" or make it heavier, I'd rather would take an extra USB cable around the office or my notebook.
krale said:
I am not sure its shorter than in other devices of similar features, but I do know for me its not enough. I think the Jam would actually be way shorter with Xscale over omap processor. So no, i would not say you've made the wrong choice.
Not sure what you mean about no synching over BT? It should work fine!
BTW, anyone know about this 1800mAh battery on ebay that apparently does not increase thickness?
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Thanks for your comment.
IMHO battery life IS shorter, as a matter of fact. I know about the OMAP, but it takes two of them, so.....
BT syncing simply does not work. Maybe it's a matter of XP-WM5 combination, but fact is that my prophet "does not find a PC with the active Sync service" Any help on that?
I've been able to get TomTom 5 to work, pair with several headsets and handsfree devices, but no way around the Active Sync issue, no matter what the COM ports or tricks I've tried. I even changed BT drivers from Widcomm to MS in my notebook, same result.
I haven't read about the large capacity battery, but if this is going to be "oversized" or make it heavier, I rather would take an extra USB cable around the office or my notebook.
Well just to let the curious know, I received the 1800 mah battery, the one also priced on ebay, with NO thickness increase, and I cannot believe it...
It just keeps going and going and going. I did the same tests as above, and could not get it to run out.
Wifi on (all else off) lasted for about five hours and was still arround 68%
Screen on all else off lasted for about 6 hours from an 85% charge and it was still on 39%...
I mean I know the math 1800 is 50% more than 1200, but I seem to be getting A LOT more than 50%. Any explanations?
Sync via Bluetooth is perfectly working for me.
You have to create a BlueTooth Com Port from your PC. Just follow instructions in ActiveSync Help File.
I can listen to mp3 for more than 4hours with screen off... and with a BlueTooth Headset... Maybe it's draining less power coz it just sends the signal and doesn't have to use external speakers...
hum... the 1800mh battery seems great... is it really good quality ?
I will keep you posted as I keep testing it in the next few days, but so far I'm impressed.
The maker is the same as the original battery (DynaPack) so quality is the same.
The battery is shorter because the phone is always registering on the GSM network.
It has some kind of bug in it.
You can check this by going to Settings > Phone > Network and check that the current network is sometimes flashing "home service" instead of the name of the operator.
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The battery is shorter because the phone is always registering on the GSM network.
It has some kind of bug in it.
You can check this by going to Settings > Phone > Network and check that the current network is sometimes flashing "home service" instead of the name of the operator.
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As in manual not automatic.
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As in manual not automatic.
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Manual or automatic, it gives the same "****".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKO1xaY1z7Q
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anyone seen 2500mah ? I'm trying to find out if it bigger.
2500mah? seems kinda fake to me if it is the same size and thickness as a 1200mah or 1800mah battery.
The 1800mah extended battery is possible because they removed the hard plastic cover on top of the battery so they can fit a slight bigger capacity battery.
these 1800mah batteries (says not dynopack on ad, just chinese copy!) are they much heavier, i have just ordered one, bit concerned they may actually be lithium ion (not lithium polymer)
Is there an application that could turn GPS ON or OFF manually in our HTC Advantage?
cktlcmd said:
Is there an application that could turn GPS ON or OFF manually in our HTC Advantage?
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Usually, this is a function within the GPS application itself. In many of them, there is an option that allows you to decide whether GPS should still continue to run when you switch off the device. In many situation, I find it sensible to leave the GPS running while the device is switched off, so that you still know where you are while switching off the device to conserve power. If this is not what you want, you can always choose to switch the GPS off.
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Usually, this is a function within the GPS application itself. In many of them, there is an option that allows you to decide whether GPS should still continue to run when you switch off the device. In many situation, I find it sensible to leave the GPS running while the device is switched off, so that you still know where you are while switching off the device to conserve power. If this is not what you want, you can always choose to switch the GPS off.
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I see your point. I was a little concerned how it will affect battery life if left ON all the time.
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I see your point. I was a little concerned how it will affect battery life if left ON all the time.
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Glad that you do.
It is exactly because we try to conserve power that we allow switching off the device while keeping the GPS running. GPS applications, if not closed, are usually useless if the GPS is not running.
Since the GPS is a passive system I mean only "listen" don't emit signal the power used by that chip is a few even if it's connected.
The people argue that the GPS drains the battery but that is only half true. What really drains the battery is not the GPS itself is the program (Tomtom as an example) running in the CPU and the screen being on for long time. As I told you since the GPS chip only "listen" for signal shouldn't consume too much.
This is not the case of GSM, Wifi and Bluetooth and their associated chips. Those three systems emit signal draining the battery.
Best regards,
mahjong
P.S.: Sorry about my english... I hope you understand what I'm saying.
mahjong said:
Since the GPS is a passive system I mean only "listen" don't emit signal the power used by that chip is a few even if it's connected.
The people argue that the GPS drains the battery but that is only half true. What really drains the battery is not the GPS itself is the program (Tomtom as an example) running in the CPU and the screen being on for long time. As I told you since the GPS chip only "listen" for signal shouldn't consume too much.
This is not the case of GSM, Wifi and Bluetooth and their associated chips. Those three systems emit signal draining the battery.
Best regards,
mahjong
P.S.: Sorry about my english... I hope you understand what I'm saying.
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Thanks. It's very clear to me. I find this to be very true. When I use my mobile golf scorer, after four hours of use, it uses less than 10% of the battery although GPS is on throughout. The difference is that I switch on and off the device between use.
But is there a way to switch on GPS and/or to monitor its status? Telenav seems to have troubles finding the GPS at times...
Thanks everyone. This thread actually answered all my questions. This is my first GPS phone, so I'm a newbie with regards to GPS.
Gaming ofcource. I know.
But im wondering what "gimmicky" features are the most power sucking.
What about hand gesture during standby? Does that leave camera on?
What about finger hover?
What about the rest?
Wich are not heavy on battery and wich are?
Thanks.
borgqueenx said:
Gaming ofcource. I know.
But im wondering what "gimmicky" features are the most power sucking.
What about hand gesture during standby? Does that leave camera on?
What about finger hover?
What about the rest?
Wich are not heavy on battery and wich are?
Thanks.
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The screen of course.
To maximise battery life, it is recommended, you do not use the phone at all.
I guarantee you will have outstanding battery life if you hardly touch your phone at all.
I haven't done extensive testing, but I have noticed that even though I get incredible deep sleep over night (95%), my phone still uses a lot of battery over an 8 hour period (15-25% - as opposed to my SGS3 which would use <10%).
I thought at first maybe it was the Air gesture -> Quick glance feature, as it will have to monitor the gyroscope constantly and if the phone is flat (which it is over night for me), then it'll have the gesture sensor on as well. Last night I tried turning that feature off (actually i turned all motion and gesture, smart screen, and air view features off), and there was no noticable improvement in battery life overnight, so it seems that my problem is still there, but also that the gimmicky feature doesn't actually appear to use too much battery.
Note; the gesture stuff doesn't use the camera, it has it's own sensor.
the Air view (i assume this is what you're referring to when you say finger hover) feature won't use more battery as it's only active in certain apps, so will only use more battery while those apps are active.
Ok that sounds actually quite good made by samsung then...although weird you lose so much battery. Maybe the rom and kernel you have?
Maybe some applications you use ? Try WakeLock Detector or Greenify from Google Play Store
i think the most power battrey goes to screen. and second goes to signal mobile network.if the signal low,that will consume more battrey because always search for better signal
The screen and signal. As above, the phone will consume extra battery searching/adjust the signal to make sure you have a good reception. There are different schools of thought but I have most battery life when on WiFi.
borgqueenx said:
Gaming ofcource. I know.
But im wondering what "gimmicky" features are the most power sucking.
What about hand gesture during standby? Does that leave camera on?
What about finger hover?
What about the rest?
Wich are not heavy on battery and wich are?
Thanks.
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Well let me place it to you from the most to least :
1-Screen
2- CPU Runs (any apps using too much CPU )
3- signal and 3g/4g
4-Smart Features and camera
5- music , and mostly all the rest
lambstone said:
The screen of course.
To maximise battery life, it is recommended, you do not use the phone at all.
I guarantee you will have outstanding battery life if you hardly touch your phone at all.
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And keep it permanently connected to a good wall charger! :laugh:
Horrible battery life.
i consider myself well versed in phones. In the past year i have had a Gnex, HTC One m7, and a moto x. Just got my s5 last week, and im lucky to get 12 hours battery life with 1.5 hours of on screen time. I have all the gestures and 'smart' stuff turned off. i dont get it. I have a handful off aps that i use, and have used on every phone. the only thing i can think of is perhaps its the google now launcher? has anyone else on here gotten HORRIBLE battery life with that installed?
That is bad indeed. Ive been on wifi most of today, different locations, and still have 30% right now with close to 6hrs screen time.
I have the GNL installed and I have amazing battery. I have location on "GPS Only" and photo auto-upload turned off. Everything else is on. What's your signal like? Worst case, try a factory reset. Oh, and turn off Google Now.
Also, why does your phone have 7bars instead of 4 or 5? Is that a sprint thing?
it looks like your system doong a lot of stuff, your screen On time should always be hiher and number 1. have you done anything to your cellphone? apps, xposed modules? custom roms?
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rochford77 said:
Horrible battery life.
i consider myself well versed in phones. In the past year i have had a Gnex, HTC One m7, and a moto x. Just got my s5 last week, and im lucky to get 12 hours battery life with 1.5 hours of on screen time. I have all the gestures and 'smart' stuff turned off. i dont get it. I have a handful off aps that i use, and have used on every phone. the only thing i can think of is perhaps its the google now launcher? has anyone else on here gotten HORRIBLE battery life with that installed?
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I have the same issue but stock UK. i leave mine plugged in at work as it's so poor.
Ive done factory resets etc and disabled loads of stuff so im crippling my phone and the battery is wank!
waz000000 said:
I have the same issue but stock UK. i leave mine plugged in at work as it's so poor.
Ive done factory resets etc and disabled loads of stuff so im crippling my phone and the battery is wank!
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Has to be a faulty battery or phone. Battery life on mine is fantastic.
fenchai said:
it looks like your system doong a lot of stuff, your screen On time should always be hiher and number 1. have you done anything to your cellphone? apps, xposed modules? custom roms?
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Not rooted, so nothing with exposed chewing up ram. I have GPS set to "battery saver". My signal at work is kinda 'meh' on LTE but 5 bars on 3g. My 4g speeds are about 15Mbps so it's not like the phone is spinnimg its wheels looking for data. I turned off location sharing from Google. So we will see how today goes.
Is 'GPS only' more battery friendly then 'battery saver' for location?
Attached is my app drawer. Nothing crazy...nothing that should be wake locking the phone....
Edit: I switched photos auto upload to only on WiFi only while charging last night as well. oh, I also charged to 100% last night with phone off using a USB 2.0 cable for a slower charge. If today goes poorly I'm going to try another battery, next step is hard reset with no 3rd party apps, then replace phone :\. I'll keep it updated.
trying a new kernel now to see if it changes anything as a test
Please keep us updated. I'm in the exact same boat as you.
Its "better" but not like it was before the update. Lost 20 % in 5 hours with 50min screen time
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much better
So its been much better today. See attached screen shots. Its not perfect but I have a big handful of apps syncing so 20hours on a charge is good for me. I mean, my moto-x got 20hrs, but that was on a highly optimized s4 pro processor only using a 4.7"amoled screen @ 720p. So if this 5"+ 1080p monster can get 20 with everything I throw at it im happy.
I think the biggest thing I did was settings - location - location services - google location reporting - off for this device.
The reason is GNL (GEL) was accessing location like crazy, so that helped.
I also made some other tweaks as stated in above posts, sorry I didnt do it scientifically by only changing one thing each day to pinpoint what it was. I turned off all of sammys 'smart' features and charged it to 100% on a 1A charger with a usb 2.0 cable with the device off. And turned off various other settings. Hope this helps.
The best thing I did for battery life was disable my Samsung account. The difference was incredible.
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aooga said:
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Also, why does your phone have 7bars instead of 4 or 5? Is that a sprint thing?
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Its 6, I thought it was a cdma thing...idk all the phones in my store have 6 bars except the n5
iresq said:
The best thing I did for battery life was disable my Samsung account. The difference was incredible.
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Samsung apps like s health still work?
rochford77 said:
Samsung apps like s health still work?
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Yes they do. Kill the Samsung account with fire.
Although some things like the default Browser only sync with a Samsung account, not with Google.
ok, I will tell you, battery saver mode is better than gps only mode. usb 2.0 or 3.0 doesnt affect charging speed, its just for data transfer speed.
maybe your google account was syncing or maybe your gallery was syncing.
this kills and uses a lot of data and battery, also facebook... please do a favor and turn every notification off. also, use greenify to cancel all apps syncing. well only the ones that you do not use.
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fenchai said:
ok, I will tell you, battery saver mode is better than gps only mode. usb 2.0 or 3.0 doesnt affect charging speed, its just for data transfer speed.
maybe your google account was syncing or maybe your gallery was syncing.
this kills and uses a lot of data and battery, also facebook... please do a favor and turn every notification off. also, use greenify to cancel all apps syncing. well only the ones that you do not use.
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No it isn't. Unless you use navigation all day, GPS Only mode is by FAR more battery friendly. The battery saving mode turns on Google location tracking and all that stuff...you know, the popup that you agree to each time. GPS only keeps that off which saves your battery a lot more. It's the worst named setting i've ever seen.
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No it isn't. Unless you use navigation all day, GPS Only mode is by FAR more battery friendly. The battery saving mode turns on Google location tracking and all that stuff...you know, the popup that you agree to each time. GPS only keeps that off which saves your battery a lot more. It's the worst named setting i've ever seen.
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You can`t use Google maps navigation with power saving mode that`s why I go back to my high accuracy setting however this didn`t change my battery stand by time by much I usually could go around 1 day and 20 hours on 1 charge depending on how much i use my phone with around 2 hours on screen time and some calls for probably 1 hour.
@op what software version you use because in the latest firmware for the G900F there is a battery improvement made so I do suggest to check your phone for software updates.
Other then that the battery life depends on how often you use your phone and for what.
bnight said:
You can`t use Google maps navigation with power saving mode that`s why I go back to my high accuracy setting however this didn`t change my battery stand by time by much I usually could go around 1 day and 20 hours on 1 charge depending on how much i use my phone with around 2 hours on screen time and some calls for probably 1 hour.
@op what software version you use because in the latest firmware for the G900F there is a battery improvement made so I do suggest to check your phone for software updates.
Other then that the battery life depends on how often you use your phone and for what.
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Im on build 49h. However when i go to checl for a sw update I get this messege about unauthorized software. Im not rooted, no bootloader unlock, nothing. Ive never even plugged this into a desktop. I run gel and have selected ART in dev options as well as increased transitions to .5 and have usb debug enabled. Wtf?
Fixed: ART was the issue. I hate you samsung. Smh.
Edit: art was the issue with the "unknown software" issue, not the battery life/op
Usually when I'm using my phone at work it lasts me for about 8-10 hours.
NFC eats about 5-7% battery.
While the phone is resting, with mostly screen off, it ended up eating 15% battery.
I used internet sharing while the screen was off, is that the reason why NFC suddenly jumped to much higher battery usage?
But I can't seem to turn NFC off. It's grayed out.
Now, I found a solution on internet that I could just delete the NFC file from the phone. But I don't really want to do that.
Why am I unable to turn NFC off? There must be a reason.
Google or Samsung Pay running? I disable them because my banks don;t support them anyway- I get 24hrs batt life every day w/NFC off.
I would look into a widget to activate NFC when needed....