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Hey guys,
Just got my Epic yesterday.. coming from the G1 with lots of experience loading and tweaking ROMs and dealing with same/similar battery issues.
After unpacking the Epic I used it and let it drain down to zero before recharging it; after a full recharge, I loaded up the 7 screens with widgets and ran a live wallpaper (fish). I didn't really use the phone much at all and the phone went from 100% battery down to zero in the span of only four hours!!! Geeze, you've got to be kidding me - four hours battery life?? WTF????!!
Back to the drawing board: I rooted it and ran SetCPU with some power saving profiles. Removed the live wallpaper and went to stock wallpaper. Set display power off at 30 seconds. Note that 4G remains off since there's no 4G in my area..
Couple of questions:
1. Is there any way to toggle 2G/3G like there was on my old G1? I know that was a power saver.
2. I didn't stop to read all the documentation yet (typical male, I know) but is there any way to wake this thing up from sleep mode besides pressing the power button? I can see that power button breaking for as much use as it's getting from me constantly having to wake this thing up!
3. My brightness setting is set to auto - since the display is usually the biggest drain on these things, is there a recommended manual brightness setting (percentage) that seems to work well for you and saves on battery power?
I'm waiting for the Seideo Extended Battery (just like many of you) and am wondering if I should keep the Epic since I'm on the Sprint 30-day Easy Return program.
Appreciate hearing from everyone!
Chris R.
I don't have 4G where I am. But, I have a all black wallpaper(uses less power) and unrooted. I easily get about 12-18hr out of my phone wit normal use(text, talk, and surfing the net with skyfire). Only thing that really kills my battery are games(Robo Defense can take over 30min to play one game).
Thanks for the reply - situation NOT improving
Thanks for the reply.. unfortunately, the situation is not improving...
I tried setting a Sleep Profile using SetCPU that would under-clock the CPU (using the stock kernel) once the screen dimmed and the phone went into Sleep Mode. Unfortunately, as mentioned in another thread here, the result was that the phone froze and required a battery-pull to reset.
I'm really starting to lose my enthusiasm for this device; as beautiful a display and as responsive a CPU/GPU, all of that doesn't mean much if you don't have good power management built into the firmware. At 6PM this evening I pulled it off the charger at 67% charged, it's now 8:35 PM, only 2.5 hours later and I'm down to 22%. I'm in a decent coverage area and get 2-4 bars of 3G strength so I don't think it's an issue of the radio being the culprit; in-fact if you check the battery stats it reports that that lovely Display is accountable for 78% of the battery usage! So I guess we're paying a hefty price for these 4-inch AMOLED displays!
I read somewhere else that the most recent update (DI07) has caused the battery performance to decrease; since my unit is brand-new it immediately went and installed DI07 shortly after the first boot-up so I have nothing to compare it to.. can anyone comment on that?
Thanks!
Chris R.
I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work). Other than that, yes, use black wallpaper, lower brightness to the min. in the OS and browser, and don't leave apps that constantly use 3G open (things like ebuddy, pandora, etc.). 3G really destroys battery life so minimal use of 3G data would maximize battery life. Maybe the devs can figure out a way to get at least one full day of battery life on this phone. I'm hoping that is the case.
As to your post, yes, DI07 has resulted in poorer battery life, for whatever reason. I was definitely getting a few hours more with the older firmware. I would not lose hope yet. As disappointed as you are (and all of us are, I can assure you of that), the devs are really starting to push out nice ROMs already, and in a few weeks to a month, I bet we will see some solid battery life. Hell, even 2.2 should yield much better results. Patience
Thanks for the tip!
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I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work).
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Thanks for the reply! Also thanks for the tip regarding JuiceDefender! What a great app! will give it some more time and report results back here.
Thanks again!
Chris R.
nimaim said:
I'm sure custom ROMs will put performance / battery life on the top of the list but until then, I use JuiceDefender beta and have seen pretty good results with it. It shuts off data whenever the screen is off and since my screen is off a good amount (only use my phone if I need to check email, call, and / or text, which is rare when I'm at work). Other than that, yes, use black wallpaper, lower brightness to the min. in the OS and browser, and don't leave apps that constantly use 3G open (things like ebuddy, pandora, etc.). 3G really destroys battery life so minimal use of 3G data would maximize battery life. Maybe the devs can figure out a way to get at least one full day of battery life on this phone. I'm hoping that is the case.
As to your post, yes, DI07 has resulted in poorer battery life, for whatever reason. I was definitely getting a few hours more with the older firmware. I would not lose hope yet. As disappointed as you are (and all of us are, I can assure you of that), the devs are really starting to push out nice ROMs already, and in a few weeks to a month, I bet we will see some solid battery life. Hell, even 2.2 should yield much better results. Patience
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DI07 has hurt my battery life substantially. In fact, my battery drains very close to twice as fast now with the update. I don't understand what they did. My phone certainly doesn't seem any faster, my display is dimmer, and battery life sucks. I'm going to have to go back to DG27 so I can use my phone all day. With DI07 it always dies on me by mid afternoon. With DG27 it was still running by 11pm at night without even a battery low warning.
juice defender ftw
also, use advanced task killer with low security settings to kill all the background processes. Set the autokill to when the screen turns off. This keeps everything pretty well managed and helps with battery as well
JUICE DEFENDER BATTERY!!! Saved my phone from flying out of my car window at 10 in the morning........
here is a link to a thread I started.
Sharing my juice defender settings. I also use ultimate juice.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/sprint-epic-4g/133933-sharing-my-juice-defender-settings.html
I can get a day and a half (or slightly longer) out of a single charge.
YMMV.
Hope this helps
Advanced task killer + Juice Defender. You could also get some custom roms and Kernals that would help boost it.
But that's your best hope. Keep off 4g, wifi, bluetooth, etc.
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DI07 has hurt my battery life substantially. In fact, my battery drains very close to twice as fast now with the update. I don't understand what they did. My phone certainly doesn't seem any faster, my display is dimmer, and battery life sucks. I'm going to have to go back to DG27 so I can use my phone all day. With DI07 it always dies on me by mid afternoon. With DG27 it was still running by 11pm at night without even a battery low warning.
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Look here- try stopping the DRM service and see if that helps your battery life with D107
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Look here- try stopping the DRM service and see if that helps your battery life with D107
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Ah, the evils of DRM can strike in unexpected ways...
I wasn't really having a battery problem but I just turned DRM off, so we'll see if battery life improves anyway.
I had a whole long post here that got wiped with the xda disk array failure, so I'll just sum that up here too:
1) Use wi-fi if possible - it REALLY helps
2) 4G does not seem to use the battery any more than 3G, although hunting for 4G does and 4G coverage is not as extensive as 3G even in 4G areas. So it's still best to leave it off if you're moving around.
3) Dim your screen and use a dark, static background. AMOLED screens don't work like LCD's; they use more power the more pixels are lit and the brighter they are.
4) GPS also kills your battery - leave that off unless you need it too.
I think that's it. I get about 18 hours on DI07 (even before trying the DRM thing; maybe I can get to a full day!).
One thing I'm noticing after checking DRM - I've got Google Maps' LocationService popping up about every 10 seconds, and I can't seem to shut it off permanently. (I went into Lattitude and turned that off, not sure what else to do.) That can't be helping... anyone know how to get rid of that?
I'm using juice defender and a constant email junkie, but lite use on other aspects of the phone. It goes off charger at 5:30 am and I'm about 67% at around 3p. It then goes in the car charger on the way home. This has much better battery life than the Pre or the Hero as with both I had to turn off email to get it to last throughout the day.
I don't expect these phones to last days, but I expect any phone that I get to last the business day. I've always been one to charge overnight.
Wifi drains battery more from what I've read.
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I've heard the opposite that wifi (as long as it's connected) uses up less battery than 3g/4g. Any of them will suck the battery dry if they're searching, so make sure you have a connection to one of them.
Hi everyone, new to the forum. Just started checking it out when the Epic was released and this is my first post. Anyways, here's my question. My phone's been off the charger for 7 hours and 17 minutes and it is now down to 15%.
Display 79%
Cell standby 7%
Android System 4%
Phone idle 2%
Swype 2%
I've gone into the display settings and I thought I had set everything up optimally. The brightness is always very low. The screen timeout is 15 seconds and the keyboard matches that. I don't know what else I can do to cripple the phone to get the battery to last longer.
I have had wifi on, 4g off, bluetooth off, gps off. Really all I have done this afternoon while watching NFL games is check my yahoo fantasy score, play 2 games of WordFeud, and check twitter and facebook. I purchased Juice Defender a week ago and it has been running all day.
Any suggestions for how I can reduce the drain from the display? My background is a black and white picture of a friend of mine, which I thought would help.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone. But the battery life I've seen is just terrible. I'd love to buy the extended battery from Seidio whenever its available, at least that would make it last longer even if the settings aren't tweaked.
Do you have juice defender installed?
Yep. Its installed and running now.
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Hi everyone, new to the forum. Just started checking it out when the Epic was released and this is my first post. Anyways, here's my question. My phone's been off the charger for 7 hours and 17 minutes and it is now down to 15%.
Display 79%
Cell standby 7%
Android System 4%
Phone idle 2%
Swype 2%
I've gone into the display settings and I thought I had set everything up optimally. The brightness is always very low. The screen timeout is 15 seconds and the keyboard matches that. I don't know what else I can do to cripple the phone to get the battery to last longer.
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There are only two reasons for your display to be using that much battery:
a) it's too bright, or
b) you're using it a lot.
If you're using the phone a lot, your battery's going to run out pretty quick and there's no way around that. If you're using it a "normal" amount, which to me means maybe an hour *total* per day of having the display on, then the other culprit is going to be your brightness. (Some would argue that's less than a normal amount, but think about it... you get a new phone, you're going to play with it for a week or two until you've seen all the cool stuff. But at some point you're going to start putting it away most of the time and just using it when someone calls you, you get a message/email or maybe to play a game or two while waiting for the train.)
Set your brightness *all* the way down, just as a test for a couple days. Make sure all the "power saving" features of the display are turned *off* (auto brightness, and whatever that "picture detection" feature's called, I can't remember). You just want the display as dim as possible all the time, just to see what happens. See what the battery usage says after a day or two of this.
My bet is that you'll see a drop, and then as you get into a more normal usage pattern it'll drop further still. You can raise the brightness a couple ticks then as you learn how to stretch your battery out.
Personally, my display is rarely over 15% or so of my usage. Today it's 29%, but it's a Sunday and I don't have anything better to do but play around on my phone.
btw, it's still the first day I've tried this but that DRM thing might be working. It's almost 9PM and I'm still on like 80% battery, and like I said I have been using the phone off and on throughout the day.
That has helped tremendously. I installed it pretty much when I got the phone and I'm able to last the whole work day with 67% left. (10 hour day)
So Samsung Omnia 7 or Focus owners, how is the battery treating you on the phone? I'm going to switch to AT&T for this phone, but I want to make sure battery life is good too on it!
Based on your "average" use, how much battery life do you get? You can make it like 1 and a half days? Barely make it through a day? 2 days??
Thanks everyone! Vote in the poll, but I'd rather here your written opinions!
You seem to be missing the Lasts a Full Day option...
Could people post whether their usage is using push or not? Been hearing some heavily varying battery life from people and personally I need this phone to last a full day on push.
My finding so far....
It doesn't last a day doing what i want it to. But I do a lot with it, bluetooth music for hours, wifi when at home, games at breaks, facebook checking, marketplace scanning, phone calls, plenty of texts and email (set to 30 min)
To be honest it does very well, would be handy to get some app that shows % of batt and estimated time remaining.
It does seem to take quite a while to charge from nearly flat, the Omnia 7 has a decent sized battery. In order to increase the battery life i've set the tiles to red, I seem to remember reading a while back that the power consumption is reduced when displaying red for some reason or another. Will keep you posted if i notice a measurable difference to life.
I tend to charge the phone overnight, and by 5/6pm the battery icon is pretty much empty and i give it a boost for an hour to see me through the rest of the evening before getting its proper charge at night.
Remember batteries tend to take a few days/weeks to reach there maximum performance.
Sorry for the disjointed post but its whatever comes to mind as i type lol
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You seem to be missing the Lasts a Full Day option...
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Well, the "Lasts a day and a half" covers lasting a full day. If your phone barely lasts a full day, then you would pick the first option. If it lasts a full day pretty well, then you would probably have enough juice to go another half day, therefore you would pick the second option.
Thanks for your feedback rlatarche! Yeah it might be true that the battery needs to settle in and be better calibrated, after being drained and recharged. That'd be awesome if your battery life improves sometime!
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Well, the "Lasts a day and a half" covers lasting a full day. If your phone barely lasts a full day, then you would pick the first option. If it lasts a full day pretty well, then you would probably have enough juice to go another half day, therefore you would pick the second option.
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But what if you have, say 15% left at the end of the day. That's not enough for another half a day, but I wouldn't say it's barely making it a day.
Depends on what you mean by barely.
Of course, I'm only messing with you.
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But what if you have, say 15% left at the end of the day. That's not enough for another half a day, but I wouldn't say it's barely making it a day.
Depends on what you mean by barely.
Of course, I'm only messing with you.
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Haha I guess. There's no way to edit polls though, is there? I couldn't find the option to at all :/
I can play music for a couple of hours while commuting, surf occasionally throughout the day over Wifi and still have plenty of charge left by bed(charging)time.
Of course, the joy of not having a sealed phone is that you can always buy a second battery
Battery does not last long at all.
Im a pretty heavy data user. Email, Attachments, Browsing, Wifi, Etc. Fully Charged this morning,its now 3:00PM and it needs a charge. barley see the white battery level on the display.
I have added a 16GB Class 2 Micro SD card. Everything is working fine. I hope this is not a related issue.
Anyone else experiencing this as a heavy user.
Overall im very happy with the phone. very fluid and easy to use. Great one handed operation.
illipro said:
Battery does not last long at all.
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I think the battery needs a few charge cycles to attain its full capacity. Also I think it is suggested that you charge the Li-ion batteries very often first few days and don't let them deplete completely.
illipro said:
Battery does not last long at all.
Im a pretty heavy data user. Email, Attachments, Browsing, Wifi, Etc. Fully Charged this morning,its now 3:00PM and it needs a charge. barley see the white battery level on the display.
I have added a 16GB Class 2 Micro SD card. Everything is working fine. I hope this is not a related issue.
Anyone else experiencing this as a heavy user.
Overall im very happy with the phone. very fluid and easy to use. Great one handed operation.
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Well I ended up getting the HD7. Battery life isn't great over here either. I got through until like 6:00 tonight, from a morning's charge. As the other guy said, the batteries might need some time to train themselves.
The problem with battery usage on the Focus and the Omnia 7 is the S-AMOLED display. AMOLED displays have different power usage depending on what is showing on screen while LCDs tend to have pretty much the same power usage no matter what is showing.
If you're seeing a white screen on your Focus, it's using about 3 times more power than the same screen on an HD7, for example. That means that if you spend most of the time looking at websites, the mail app or the facebook app, your battery will last less than on a phone with an LCD display.
However, if most of the time your phone is on standby or you're using apps with a black background your phone will last a lot longer than the HD7 also thanks to the bigger battery (1500mAh vs 1230mAh).
Last night my Focus received a full charge.
Took the phone off the charger at 7am and needed to put it back on at 7pm.
2 hours of phone calls.
Gmail (Push, 45 emails 1 attachment)
Texting (40 texts)
Light browsing of the web
I have had some accidental camera button smushes and that turns the phone on, and it doesn't go back to sleep, so that could be some drain.
I used it on Nov 8th from desk at work with it plugged in to wall charger. It took nearly the whole 9 hours I was there to charge the battery while I was using it. I was using it VERY heavily. Due to MicroSD issue (Lost everything on power cycle) I had to re add apps over the air. I streamed & downloaded from Zune, had all 'use location' features on, activated find phone fast feature, linked 4 email accounts, I pretty much got paid to play with my phone all day.
Nov 9th, I woke up with full charge around 7am. Didn't use phone much till got to work 9:45am. Today I left it unplugged from wall to test battery life. I streamed from Zune and Last.FM, and had 43 minutes of phone calls, 47 text messages, 11 of which had pics attached, and used map with location and traffic on when I went to lunch. Note the screen is off during music streaming. I also used a very simple $10 Logitech 2 speaker set that plugged into my phone, with phone volume on 20. When I got into my car at 8:15pm I still had life in the phone. I assume that using the external speakers greatly reduced power drain on phone. I have a spare battery and wall charger. The wall charger takes about 5-6 hours to charge a dead battery. I'm not sure yet how long it takes the phone to charge the battery, since I sleep while its doing it.
Mine is almost dead by late afternoon.
I shouldn't have to shut all the extra like wifi, bluetooth, location and dim the screen just to scrape by for barely a day. It's either the OEM batteries, or inefficiencies in the WP7 code. Since no 3rd party apps can run the background, I can't blame them...yet!
Hi everyone, I'm new to these forums and the DVP, I just got mine Thursday.
I seem to have every issue under the sun with this phone. Wifi crashes, buggy marketplace and constantly changing signal. With all of these issues I wasn't sure how to judge battery life. What has everyone been getting? I can only get about 3-4 hours of life with no wifi, bluetooth or any web browsing. I was running zune the whole time and playing music as well as having location active.
2-3 Hours of internet usage with wifi and bluetooth off.
7-8 hours standby time. Went to sleep at night; woke up in the morning and battery died.
Issue with constantly changing signal from 0G to EDGE to 3G, Dropped a few calls.
I use this phone in the New York City area, so the signal from Tmobile should have full bars. Also, my apartment is the on the highest level and the highest building of the borough.
I easily get through a full day with a single charge, including maybe around 60 minutes of talk time on weekdays. I've had days where I did not charge the night before, had around 40% battery and made it well into the afternoon without an issue.
So the life you're seeing sounds exceptionally poor to me based on my experience (or mine is uncommonly good)
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Hi everyone, I'm new to these forums and the DVP, I just got mine Thursday.
I seem to have every issue under the sun with this phone. Wifi crashes, buggy marketplace and constantly changing signal. With all of these issues I wasn't sure how to judge battery life. What has everyone been getting? I can only get about 3-4 hours of life with no wifi, bluetooth or any web browsing. I was running zune the whole time and playing music as well as having location active.
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That sounds short to me. I leave my WiFi on all the time (too lazy to turn it on and off), but Bluetooth off since I don't have anything that uses it. The heaviest use I ever had was Xbox Live games for about 3 hours (don't judge! I was in the car headed to visit family!), Kindle for about an hour that night, and probably about 60 minutes of talk and text. I don't really browse the Web on the phone. It was off the cord from 6 am to 10 pm, and I put it back on the cord with the barest sliver of battery left.
I'm getting just over a full days charge with about 2-3 hours of XBox Live + Zune, plenty of emails and texts (probably 50 a day? I've never really counted). I don't really get the signal problems reported by a lot of users, and I rarely use WiFi (every once in a while to start a game download because it makes me, but then I just flip off WiFi and finish over the "4g" in my area).
I also surf probably an hour or so. Exchange is set to as items arrive, gmail every 30, live mail manual.
My battery life isnt so good, but my phone isnt always in 3g it bumps to Edge a lot in which i think affects the battery life. The battery life is so-so
I received my VP this past Thursday the 12th. So, have had it for 4 days. I decided to test the batt life out yesterday. I took it off the charger at exactly 9AM my time.
I talked on the phone (not sure how long total, an hour or so, I think), sent text messages (maybe 20+), shot just over a minute of 720p video, took two pics, used the internet extensively, played a few games for about 30 minutes, downloaded some apps.
Wi-fi stays on, location is on as well.
My battery died at approximately 9:48p.
So, 12:30 hours with pretty extensive use. I'd say that's pretty good for a smart phone.
So, maybe your case is an exception. Incidentally, I've only had one crash since I had it. Hit the wifi toast message at a friends house when that popped up and then hit back real quick because I didn't wanna do anything with wifi. Phone locked up and I cycled the power on then off.
Otherwise, I haven't had a single issue with it.
I also have wifi at my house and never turn it off on the phone.
So, keeping fingers crossed.
Been using it for 3-4 days straight in NYC so far, to me the battery life is pretty bad even compared to the developer phone I previously had. Generally i'm out about 8-12 hours a day. Moderate picture taking, not more than 20 mins of game playing and very light phone use. It does get better if you remember to turn off the music when you power down the phone into standby mode, but for the most part this thing struggles to make 8+ hours. If I was going out into the wilderness, I would not be relying on this phone, a $100 android phone would probably be the sweet spot between data capability and battery life in that case.
The developer phone I used to have that I used more heavily could easily get into the 12 hour+ range. The Dell does pack a better screen and keyboard however, with the screen probably being the bigger factor there. If anything the ****ty blurry camera is my biggest issue at the moment
I think we should set up a test to see how peoples batteries perform. I will start a new thread with a poll
Yesterday was my first day of having this phone. I took it off the charger around 530pm and it was close to dying around 11pm.. I only did some light browsing and texting through Google a Google voice app..maybe the app itself is what drained my battery who knows.. I hope it continues to improve over time.
My battery life has been fantastic - literally the best I've had on a phone in years (including brief stints with the Samsung Focus and HTC HD7). I easily get through the whole day on a charge with moderate usage, whereas my HD2 needed some mid-day juice to make it through.
i can barely get through a day on a full charge. I'm not complaining because this phone does a heck of a lot, but my one year old Touch Pro 2 could easily go 2 full days with moderate use.
however if i'm in airplane mode i'm sure i can go 2+ days. when i'm in weak 3G coverage areas I see the signal indicator bounce all over the place from G/EDGE/3G, i'm guessing this is what is causing the battery drain. hopefully a software patch/upgrade will address this later on?
I haven't bought this device. I am thinking to but battery is a big question for me because its non replaceable. I will buy a used phone so it is a issue for me. Can you guys tell me hows its battery life? and is 16GB enough? How much is user available?
just got it, you've got like 11.5gb available and battery is fine so far i haven't charged it in over 16 hours and I'm at like 40%
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just got it, you've got like 11.5gb available and battery is fine so far i haven't charged it in over 16 hours and I'm at like 40%
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Thanks for reply and hows old your device is?
By the way hows its low light/night result of camera? I was reading on "Post pictures taken from your Nexus 4!" and many users have said it has bad quality? Or they really cant use camera? lol
Nexus 4 camera sensor is small , 1/4 " and it really takes crappy photos im low light
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Thanks for reply and hows old your device is?
By the way hows its low light/night result of camera? I was reading on "Post pictures taken from your Nexus 4!" and many users have said it has bad quality? Or they really cant use camera? lol
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the phone is like 6 moths old but i got it yesterday, it was my moms, the camera is OK but you have to play around in the settings to get it right for the situation, id say don't take low light hoots if you don't have to but its not that bad at all for normal pics
Camera is ok...Not so good, but not that bad too, just ok.
About battery life, depends on your usage. Mine usually lasts for 12 hours, with 3g on all day, using whatsapp, tapatalk, chrome, sometimes playing games...
You can check
The great battery impression thread too.
— From my mako
Actually after the Google Camera update the camera takes decent photos, and after editing them with the built in photo editor they do look very good, as long as you know how to use it properly
Camera is really okay. It pales infront of current high end cameras like the one m8 or z3, but the shots are always satisfying. You really must know how to handle it.
My batterie life is also very good. It last at least one day with chatting, browsing, a tiny bit gaming, music and movies. On screen time always are 3,5/4+ hours. I think there is nothing to complain about.
i have the n4 since january 2013, and im getting less and less satisfied with the battery life.
im a heavy user, lots of browsing, listening to music on bluetooth, chatting, etc., and i used to get a day of use out of it easily, now i have to charge it to be able to pull through work and the usual evening beer.
i rarely get more than 2 hours screen on time, and im constantly on wifi or 2g, just a couple of times 3g, with about an average of -70dBm cell coverage.
every keep awake permission is revoked, and only a handful of apps get access to my location, so the phone is mostly in deep sleep.
average battery drain is about 2,9% according to system monitor for the last couple of days.
if battery life is important to you, id rather recommend the moto g.
Depending on usage and reception about 3-5h screen on time.
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Its subjective
From morning to bed time if you use your phone actively throughout the day
or 2 days if you only make calls and listen to music
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Battery life on this phone is amazing.
Since it has the same 2700mAh battery as its bigger brother, it can easily last 2 days of average usage.
I'm currently typing this at 7pm, and my phone is at 71% battery, while I've been up since 8:30am
Checked the battery monitor on hidden menu and it states 2800mah (my currently battery % is 80)
how much you guys have?
profyler said:
Checked the battery monitor on hidden menu and it states 2800mah (my currently battery % is 80)
how much you guys have?
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2820mAh according to the service menu battery test, not bad.
Are you guys using Stamina mode? I am new to the Xperia phones and the XZ1 Compact is a first for me. I came to it from a Google Pixel because I wanted a smaller phone for better one-handed use and better battery life. So far, I'm not seeing much increase over the Pixel with my usual usage. I have only had it for a few days and have been ending the day around 30-35%. Phone idle and Google Play Services seem to utilize the most battery and my typical screen time in a day is around 1:45-2:00 hours.
I set stamina to kick in at 15%
I haven't reached that point yet, right now I have 25% remaining and already have 6.5 h of sot. I didn't do anything too demanding, but half the day the signal was rather bad, so in the end I gotta say this thing is a beast.
Not using stamina. Didnt like the lag on screen when stamina was on. on android is pretty good now with disabling apps on background...
i usually have 5 hours screen...
j-san said:
Are you guys using Stamina mode? I am new to the Xperia phones and the XZ1 Compact is a first for me. I came to it from a Google Pixel because I wanted a smaller phone for better one-handed use and better battery life. So far, I'm not seeing much increase over the Pixel with my usual usage. I have only had it for a few days and have been ending the day around 30-35%. Phone idle and Google Play Services seem to utilize the most battery and my typical screen time in a day is around 1:45-2:00 hours.
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Modern Stamina is completely different from the original Stamina, which was awesome. Back in the golden days, it was actually able to effectively extended battery life without sacrificing overall performance.
With the introduction of Marshmallow however, Stamina essentially "broke" - there were overlapping conflicts with MM's new Doze feature, which in theory aimed to conserve battery in ways similar to Stamina but in reality didn't quite live up to its promise.
Since Doze is baked in to the OS and pretty much here to stay, Sony decided to kill off Stamina with the first few MM firmware releases.
It was eventually resurrected, but it has never been the same again. You can say that only the name lived on, under the hood it's two entirely different things.
Now that history lesson is over, back to your question. Stamina on the XZ1 Compact is just a combination of trivial battery saving tricks that may or may not actually save a significant amount of battery life.
The description in Stamina mode details the biggest battery eating features that Stamina disables, if you don't actively use any of them during normal use, it's likely that Stamina won't be of much help in conserving battery for you.
You'll probably save more battery by dimming your screen or disabling ambient light sensor.
Ultra Stamina basically turns your smartphone into a dumbphone to squeeze as much life as possible out of the remaining battery. Unless you're away from a charger for a long time and you absolutely need to make a phone call or text or whatever before you can plug it in, don't use this mode, it's horrid.
Thanks for the brief history lesson! I did notice Stamina mode left some to be desired with scrolling, primarily. After messing around with some settings and putting the screen to a dimmer level, I seem to be getting better battery life. Perhaps it has to do with a new phone and the software and battery need to "learn" each other? As it is, the XZ1C is already longer lived than my Pixel, which typically needed to be plugged in at least once to make it through the day. Honestly, I'd take a thicker phone with larger battery. A wafer-thin phone with the latest tech is useless if the battery is dead.
I use stamina the whole time. I've found the bottom stamina preset is the best for scrolling. It's barely noticeable over non-stamina. Also, I've disabled background data and set location to GPS only. I get about 8-9hrs of SOT.
This phone is a bit unpredictable. I was pleasantly surprised by the improved battery life earlier in the week, and now it barely lasts through my usual 16 hour day before getting into the red. This past Saturday and Sunday, I had about 4 hours screen time and the phone made it through my day with 43% left in the battery. Monday I got about 3 hours screen time and finished with just over 20%, and yesterday I wrapped up with 7% and only used it for 1:45 screen time. I haven't done anything differently or installed any new apps. The reception is a little worse at my office is than at the school where I teach part-time, but I don't think that should make a 30% difference in battery life. I still get full bars WiFi and 2-3 bars LTE, where at the school LTE is usually 4-5 bars. Funny thing is, I about double my screen time at the teaching job since students don't always need me so I'm browsing on my phone. At my office, I'm usually busy and don't touch the phone much at all, but these past two days I'm practically watching the percentage drop. Today, I'm off the plug for about 2.5 hours and already down to 86% with 5 minutes screen-on time.
I'm thinking there must be some background app or process running that is killing the battery, but the app usage shows "phone idle" as the highest power drain, followed by Google Play Services. I often like to keep the more "core" apps running in the background so they can pull updates, notifications, etc. so I don't have to constantly be pushing the phone to do them manually.
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I use stamina the whole time. I've found the bottom stamina preset is the best for scrolling. It's barely noticeable over non-stamina. Also, I've disabled background data and set location to GPS only. I get about 8-9hrs of SOT.
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I agree but still dont use this... scrolling with stamina is not that smooth like with stamin off.
profyler said:
I agree but still dont use this... scrolling with stamina is not that smooth like with stamin off.
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Maybe I should try stamina off with background sync disabled. The scrolling is smooth, but it feels like the display refresh is only 30fps, which still bothers my eyes.
Just surfing reddit and listen to Spotify. Wifi and bt 100% on.
Wow. 2 days of standby and 10 hours of screen usage?? How did you manage that? I'm happy with just one full day when I don't have to plug in. I've already turned off most location services and updates, leaving just essentials like e-mail and weather still on. I also used to have a live wallpaper, which has now been changed to a static photo.
I have uninstalled all Google apps besides: Gmail, Calendar and Keep.
I have uninstalled all the bloat experia apps including swift key. (see thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/help/managed-to-hide-whats-app-root-t3681393)
I use a black wallpaper and also night-mode in chromium swe browser.
I have turned off 4G/LTE since it sux in Sweden. Use only 2G/3G+Wifi.
I use dns66 for Adblock.
I have no audio/video enhancements on.
I have set auto brightness to off (low light auto brightness sux on xz1c)
I use Pebble 2SE which uses BTLE (LowEnergy)
Perhaps a bit off topic, however I would like to know how is the auto brightness feature on this phone.
I have a soon-to-be-dead Z3 compact and I used Lux auto brightness on it since the stock one basically didn't do anything.
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Perhaps a bit off topic, however I would like to know how is the auto brightness feature on this phone.
I have a soon-to-be-dead Z3 compact and I used Lux auto brightness on it since the stock one basically didn't do anything.
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The auto brightness on this phone works well, even too well. Sometimes in certain environment, a little tilt on the phone will cause the brightness to adjust immediately. I would say it is the most sensitive auto brightness in all phones I've used this far.
Almost 3 days with 7+ hours of screen on time
Guys this phone battery is amazing! I use my smartphone for public relations so i always use whatsapp, instagram etc... I wake up around 8-9 and don't have any problems the whole day.. gps on everywhere, google apps on, data on all time, use some spotify too and don't remember what else. I wouldn't change it for anything and would suggest you to buy it. Gj SONY.