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I had the Samsung Captivate before but it's gone now so I'm needing another phone and so far the Atrix looks like a winner.
1) How is the battery life compared to the Captivate?
2) Can you easily remove all of the Motoblur bloat?
3) Are the problems with the display noticeable? http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4
4) Are there anything bad/buggy about this phone?
5) What about the random reboots and the poor connection/radio?
Thanks everyone, especially the developers who spend their time working on mods and roms for everyone to benefit from.
I've also had the Captivate so I'll try to answer these for you.
1. My battery has been excellent, especially for an Android phone. I have no trouble getting through my day of fairly heavy usage.
2. I didn't remove anything, but it's an extremely easy phone to root.
3. Not a dev, but I believe no custom roms until it's cracked.
4. I love the display, personally. There are spec nazis out there who see Pentile and will say it sucks without ever seeing one in person. It's not a saturated color wise as the Captivate but it's a very nice natural looking display.
5. I've had no bugs as of yet and I got mine the morning of launch. I've seen others mention random reboots, but have not had any.
6. The only other Android device I'd consider is the Inspire. I had that and exchanged for the Atrix and I prefer the Atrix. It's much more future proof with the Tegra 2 and it's faster overall. I also ran speedtest app today on both at the same time. Ran the test 10 times and the Atrix killed it each time even they're both hspa+ devices. Screen is bigger on the Inspire, but I prefer the look of the atrix display. Inspire build quality is very good with unibody design, but battery cover sucks (along with the battery) and the headphone jack is at the bottom which I hate. Speakers are much, much louder on the Moto as well.
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I've also had the Captivate so I'll try to answer these for you.
1. My battery has been excellent, especially for an Android phone. I have no trouble getting through my day of fairly heavy usage.
2. I didn't remove anything, but it's an extremely easy phone to root.
3. Not a dev, but I believe no custom roms until it's cracked.
4. I love the display, personally. There are spec nazis out there who see Pentile and will say it sucks without ever seeing one in person. It's not a saturated color wise as the Captivate but it's a very nice natural looking display.
5. I've had no bugs as of yet and I got mine the morning of launch. I've seen others mention random reboots, but have not had any.
6. The only other Android device I'd consider is the Inspire. I had that and exchanged for the Atrix and I prefer the Atrix. It's much more future proof with the Tegra 2 and it's faster overall. I also ran speedtest app today on both at the same time. Ran the test 10 times and the Atrix killed it each time even they're both hspa+ devices. Screen is bigger on the Inspire, but I prefer the look of the atrix display. Inspire build quality is very good with unibody design, but battery cover sucks (along with the battery) and the headphone jack is at the bottom which I hate. Speakers are much, much louder on the Moto as well.
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Only thing holding me back is hearing about the battery life in this thread: http://androidforums.com/motorola-atrix-4g/283111-motorola-atrix-battery-life.html
On my captivate I could go 2, sometimes 3 full days without charging with moderate use to mild use. I want to be able to forget to charge my phone and still be able to use it the next day.
Well... i don't HEAVILY use my phone.... but i unplugged it around noon, and by close to midnight i think it was around 70% or so (forgot to look before i plugged it in again). If you don't go widget-happy, like the one guy at Best Buy that i was in line behind apparently did because he complained about horrible battery life with his new Android phone and returned it for an iPhone 4, your battery will last a fair bit. I wouldn't exactly expect to get DAYS of use out of it, especially if you have it fairly frequently checking for new email's and such, and tend to use your phone extremely often... but you'll probably get at least maybe a day and a half... possibly two........ hard to say really without knowing how much you use your phone.
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Well... i don't HEAVILY use my phone.... but i unplugged it around noon, and by close to midnight i think it was around 70% or so (forgot to look before i plugged it in again). If you don't go widget-happy, like the one guy at Best Buy that i was in line behind apparently did because he complained about horrible battery life with his new Android phone and returned it for an iPhone 4, your battery will last a fair bit. I wouldn't exactly expect to get DAYS of use out of it, especially if you have it fairly frequently checking for new email's and such, and tend to use your phone extremely often... but you'll probably get at least maybe a day and a half... possibly two........ hard to say really without knowing how much you use your phone.
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Sounds good. How is the screen? Do you notice blurriness, discoloration, over/under saturation/contrast, pixelation, or anything bad? Also, can you remove all of the AT&T/Moto bloatware so your phone feels like a stock android phone?
You can choose not to use the blur widgets and the standard Android widgets are there. Launcherpro is the home replacement of choice for me if I use one. You can get really great looking widgets through it as well. In my experience blur has not slowed the phone down at all though.
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1) How is the battery life compared to the Captivate?
Better, and the phone doesn't heat up like the Captivate as well. It is more efficient and although more powerful and faster, it still has better battery life and temperature control.
2) Can you easily remove all of the Motoblur bloat?
If you root it you could freeze the applicarions I guess; you can't completely remove motoblur itself though.
3) What are the limits for developers with a locked bootloader?
You can have a ROM but no custom kernel. That means no overclocking and the like.
4) Are the problems with the display noticeable?
I didn't see any; the pixel density is higher and that means everything is clearer aand smaller. But... I guess you could say that it isn't as fluid as the Samsung's AMOLED.
5) Are there anything bad/buggy about this phone?
I didn't encounter any problems with mine.
6) What good AT&T Android phones are out there besides the Captivate, the Atrix, and the Aria?
The Inspire is a good one; the Galaxy S 2 will come out at the end of this month/next month.
However, if you are looking at something else I highly suggest looking at the Nexus 1
What about the random reboots and the poor connection/radio?
Tehwall said:
I had the Samsung Captivate before but it's gone now so I'm needing another phone and so far the Atrix looks like a winner.
1) How is the battery life compared to the Captivate?
2) Can you easily remove all of the Motoblur bloat?
3) What are the limits for developers with a locked bootloader?
4) Are the problems with the display noticeable? http://www.anandtech.com/show/4165/the-motorola-atrix-4g-preview/4
5) Are there anything bad/buggy about this phone?
6) What good AT&T Android phones are out there besides the Captivate, the Atrix, and the Aria?
Thanks everyone, especially the developers who spend their time working on mods and roms for everyone to benefit from.
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1. about the same running hardcore uv kernal and dark 9.3
2. you can use launcher pro which pretty much masks it
3. the current limits for this are bad until bootloader is unlocked
4.i would say if like me you came from SAMOLED, at first it would look horrible. the screen color is pretty accurate
5. stock music player going off by itself.
I too came from a captivate and i have not had any reboots or problems with the radio. That is the main reason i left my cappy. I have horrible service at work and at home ( where i spend most of my time) and i could never get a signal. I had better signal with my iphone. My biggest disappointment is the screen....nothing will beat a s amoled. The atrix will look washed out next to it but the screen is clearer especially text. I wont miss the amoled eating all the battery though. The battery on the atrix is amazing. Im a fairly heavy user and i get through the day with no issues. As far as motoblur.....its not as ugly as TW. Some things look close to stock android some dont. I have been trying to install stock android apps and freezing the motoblur ones....so far so good....if we can get kernel access and get a speedmod kernel this phone would be unreal. I recommend this if yourlooking to make the jump.
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Hi all,
When the N4 was announced I had my GNex up for sale within the hour, sold within two! The more I read about the Nexus 4, the more I am unsure it is actually for me. I do not play games and generally use my phone for browsing the net/forums, google currents, bit of music and social networking (Facebook etc.)
I am now unsure whether I have made the right choice, and whether I should snap-up another Nexus while people are selling them off cheap on the forums ready for the N4 upgrade.
I was hoping for upgrades in the following areas
Build quality... this is one area where I am fairly sure I would be happy! N4 looks great!
Screen quality... again, a fairly significant upgrade to me me as the Gnex screen always looked a little washed out and dull when sat alongside other handsets (One X, S3, S2 etc.)
Battery Life... Was hoping for this but am now unsure. Gnex seemed to heat up quite a lot and was looking forward to getting rid of that. it now seems that the N4 may have the same issues and reports of screen on time in the region of 3 hours do not seem that much of a step up from the Gnex
Processor... Whilst a speed boost would be welcomed, as I only use the phone for some casual browsing and not gaming I am unsure how much difference I will see.
Camera... Again was hoping for a major boost, but seems to be a minor incremental boost at best!
Any thoughts? Anyone else in the same position as me and wondering what to do? Price difference is in the region of £100-120 if I were to purchase like for like accessories etc.
Cheers,
Michael
The fact that it's "Nexus" also means you get a standard, Android experience, along with guaranteed quick updates (up until the point where the OS won't run smoothly on the device I guess; which should take a while). Other vendors for the most part offer updates slowly, and choose to make the general UI... non-standard (which usually has more downsides)
yeah... am only comparing the two nexus devices as that is all I would buy... love the specs of the S3 and can be picked up mint for about the same price as a new Nexus 4, but couldn't live without the updates
Literally everything is improved. You'll love it no matter what.
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One thing I wouldn't worry ahbout is battery life,
once the obvious software problems are fixed battery life is going to be good because:
-The battery at 2100mAh is pretty large
-IPS panels are allot more power efficient then Amoled screens, especially if your main use is web browsing
-The S4pro is the most efficient ARM quad-core and is the only one which allows to clock its cores independently
-There will be custom Kernels that allow undervolting and other features that improve battery life
I'm not a gamer either, but that didn't stopped me from getting this I personally think you won't regret getting it, but if you don't like it, you can always just return it and get something else
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel
wurzelsepp3 said:
One thing I wouldn't worry ahbout is battery life,
once the obvious software problems are fixed battery life is going to be good because:
-The battery at 2100mAh is pretty large
-IPS panels are allot more power efficient then Amoled screens, especially if your main use is web browsing
-The S4pro is the most efficient ARM quad-core and is the only one which allows to clock its cores independently
-There will be custom Kernels that allow undervolting and other features that improve battery life
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How much of a difference will custom kernels and ROMs make to the battery life? Roughly? 10% or more?
I know my current Galaxy 3 gives me an improvement of almost 30% with custom firmware, but that's because of removing the samsung bloatware.
I try to get the fastest, most powerful phone or computer out there that's at a reasonable price. By reasonable I mean most power per dollar. The people that say they don't need a super fast phone or computer are usually the ones complaining that Web pages open slow or it keeps freezing and slowing down. The better hardware you get, the longer you will be satisfied with the device. And for this price with this hardware/software? You gotta jump on it. You may not need a phone that could run crysis but if you could get it for the same or cheaper price as a lesser spec'd phone, wouldn't you?
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cyberkid2002 said:
I was hoping for upgrades in the following areas
Build quality... this is one area where I am fairly sure I would be happy! N4 looks great! I think we're going to love the build quality. I've said for a couple of years now that if Google could put out a Nexus device that felt like the iPhone 4/4S in the hand, then they'd really be on to something. I believe that's what LG has done here.
Screen quality... again, a fairly significant upgrade to me me as the Gnex screen always looked a little washed out and dull when sat alongside other handsets (One X, S3, S2 etc.) IMO, the screen is going to be great. From everything I've read, the screen is just a slight notch below the One X...so that would make it fantastic. And every review I've read that compared it to the GNex screen says that it's MUCH better and much easier to see outdoors in sunlight. This is a major upgrade.
Battery Life... Was hoping for this but am now unsure. Gnex seemed to heat up quite a lot and was looking forward to getting rid of that. it now seems that the N4 may have the same issues and reports of screen on time in the region of 3 hours do not seem that much of a step up from the Gnex. Again, this is something we'll have to wait and see (as everyone's day-to-day use is different), but I've seen a couple of reviews that say the Nexus 4 gets about the same, or just below, the battery life of the S3. If that's the case, then (for me at least), I'm golden. Yesterday I got 5 hours screen-on time on my S3 (50% brightness, stock rooted ROM, power save turned off, etc.) and I still had 23% battery life left. That's pretty darn good!
Processor... Whilst a speed boost would be welcomed, as I only use the phone for some casual browsing and not gaming I am unsure how much difference I will see. I think you'll see a major boost, even if you don't need it. Apps will open faster and things will just be snappier. I'd much rather have more performance than I need rather than the other way around.
Camera... Again was hoping for a major boost, but seems to be a minor incremental boost at best! This is the one place where I have to really disagree. The camera is VERY important to me (I use it daily in my job) and the shots I've seen seem to show the camera is a MAJOR upgrade over the GNex. While I didn't find the GNex camera to be awful, it certainly couldn't hold a candle to my S3 camera. If this camera is anywhere near as good as the S3, I'm going to be very pleased.
Any thoughts? Anyone else in the same position as me and wondering what to do? Price difference is in the region of £100-120 if I were to purchase like for like accessories etc.
Cheers,
Michael
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See my replies above. I believe you've made a great decision. :good:
Engadget has had the most negative response to the battery life of anyone, and they still got 3 minutes longer out of the Nexus 4 than the Galaxy Nexus. Assuming they never fix whatever was causing the poor battery life, you'll see the same as what you get on your Galaxy Nexus.
Hello there
I have been trying to decide between the Galaxy S4 and HTC One for quite some time now that I am actually getting tired. I am the type of people who like to do a lot of research before buying a product just so I can avoid being disappointed by a certain issue after dishing out so much money. I used to be an Apple-fanboy but then I saw the light and switched to Android when I got the HTC One X, which was a MAJOR disappointment for me in terms of battery life, laggyness and OTA updates which we (in the Middle East) always received like three - four months after everybody else. I then switched to the Galaxy S3 and I am very pleased with it but there are a few things I don't like about it:
1) Camera in low light conditions isn't that good
2) It gets hot rather quickly, but mostly when playing games or when you've just installed a new ROM and are setting it up, installing applications and such
3) It is just so weak even with the flip cover 'protecting' the screen.. my device fell on its side from a very short table before and onto a carpet and the LCD started producing weird colors and eventually the screen died (the same day). The outside screen didn't crack, but of course I had to replace the whole LCD with the digitiser and such which cost me an arm and a leg.
4) The device is quite laggy when opening/closing applications and just a little bit laggy (sometimes) when swiping between screens, even though I make sure I always clear the recent applications page and "Clear Memory" every now and then.
I like the whole Air Gestures thing about the S4 but I consider myself a practical guy and therefore I am most likely going to turn them off as soon as I get the phone. I am more into customization and such and so air gestures aren't a deal breaker for me. I read A LOT about the S4 and I concluded that there must be an overheating issue with it even with very minimal usage (I usually browse, use whatsapp, try new applications from the PlayStore and listen to music from time to time but not a lot) and those used to heat up my device sometimes, up to 55 Celsius at one point, so I was wondering if the S4 suffers from the same problems? I also read that that issue was resolved in the latter shipments of the S4 and it was only in the very early ones, but I am not too sure. Battery life has been a pain in the butt for me with the S3 even though my usage is pretty minimal, as I stated before. I have tried dozens of ROMs (and I make sure I take all the precautions to getting a good battery life, like setting brightness to Auto, turning off unnecessary junk constant notifications, reducing the volume, turning off haptic feedback and keyboard tones) and I have never gotten a good battery life out of the phone. When I used BetterBatteryStats for a while and started comparing stats people posted online, I realized that the partially poor battery life is normal with some S3s. So I was wondering if the S4 suffers from the same problem?
I am so sorry for the long ass post, but anyway I am going to sum it up in a few sentences to make it easier if you don't want to read through the whole crap:
1) Are there battery issues?
2) Are there overheating issues?
3) Are Air Gestures actually useful? I know that's opinionated but practically speaking, did you turn them off or do you actually use them everyday?
4) Does the IR Remote integrated in the WatchOn application actually work well? I have a Sony Bravia and a two other LED TVs which aren't popular brands, would it work with them or are there specific models?
5) How weak is the device? And is the material still subpar like the S3's?
6) Does it actually feel different from the S3 or would I just be updating to a bigger screen with supposedly better display and camera?
Thanks guys!
1) yes (for me, but i had all features turned on, i'm pretty sure with a custom ROM and bloatware removed it wouldn't be as big a problem)
2) yes (i've had some situations where it becomes very warm, but that was only when i first started using it, haven't noticed it recently. again, a custom kernel with UV will probably alleviate this)
3) maybe, i use them when i'm trying to read emails and stuff while having lunch, don't have to touch the screen with my greasy fingers
4) works perfectly for me. i have a 2 year old panasonic, took 20 secs to setup.
5) who can say. I'm buying a tempered glass screen protector to protect the screen, i did drop my SGS3 from about 1.5m up onto stone and the screen shattered, but I think it would have happened to any phone, dropped it onto carpet a million times and never had an issue. I would guess the weakness is on par with the SGS3, so about average.
6) it's pretty much the same, but the sides are flat, whereas the SGS3's sides were curved. still pretty slippery, the menu and back buttons are a bit lower now due to the screen impinging on on the real estate, so I will occasionally hit the screen instead of the back button when i hold the phone with my left hand and wrap my pinky around to press back, but otherwise i haven't noticed much difference. It is _slightly_ larger - I had an HTC desire dock that i chiseled out to fit the SGS3, and it fit it pretty snuggly, and now the SGS4 doesn't fit. but i imagine it won't take much chiseling to get the SGS4 to fit.
Hello TarekElsakka,
my answers are pretty the same as omniwolfs:
1.) Yes there are battery issues like on any bloated android rom, but i'm sure it can be solved (like on any other android device) with the right kernel / rom / app setup. I remember when i got my SGS2 i was shocked by the battery consumption but now with the support of the community it runs 3 days and longer.
2.) Yes there is an (over)heating issue. When you have a 1.9 Ghz processor running on full speed you need a minimum voltage to achieve this. The current flow will produce heat wich is a physical rule. As we dont have (and dont want to have) a moving cooler in our phones this issue will allways remain until the chip architecture changes (again) or we invent a better passive cooling technology. :fingers-crossed:
3.) Air Gestures are sometimes usefull but how it is now implemented its more a gadget then a feature. Same for Air View wich in my opinion is a cool thing but sloppy implemented. I hope for software updates for both functions but i'm sure most updates will not come from samsung but from our nice community! :highfive:
4.) I would say it works sufficiently. WatchOn is a nice app but also need some improvement (at least the remote ui needs more customization). Its a nice idea and i hope it will be further developed. The thing that satisfies me is the knowledge that the hardware is there and as most points above it needs the right software to utilize it correctly. I'm curious waiting for more ir apps to come.
5.) I would say most build aspects are same with the SGS3 except the faux-metal trim circling edge of the phone. The bigger screen is of course another thing, bending damage possibility is higher, maybe therefore also the metal trim was introduced..
6.) as i didnt have a SGS3 i cant tell you the feel difference
hope this helps a little bit and greetings!
Thank you very much for the information, guys. I went ahead and bought the phone a couple of days ago and I am extremely happy with it, especially the design and the flawless Sense 5; well, realistically speaking, it's not flawless but it's a huge improvement over the Sense I had on the HTC One X; so far I have not experienced any sort of lag both with 4.1.2 and then with 4.2.2 (Android Revolution HD 10.1 then 10.2); I must say, though, that 4.2.2 is a lot better than 4.1.2 and has some much needed features. Battery life has been great, at least compared to what I got from the Galaxy, but then again and as you said, the battery life you get from Touchwiz or Sense-based ROMs will never be as good as that from an AOSP ROM or a different kernel. Regardless, I am really happy with the device and I cannot wait for the next model!
9 Days ago, I made the decision to switch networks due to Sprint's inability to handle MMS, data, signal, calls, or anything else. I walked into a T-Mobile store, and after a brief credit check, I was told I can choose any phone I'd like. My original intent was to hang onto my Nexus 5, which I absolutely loved, but I was told I was required to get a new phone. I wasn't exactly upset knowing I'd be getting a new phone, so I walked over to the displays and struggled for over 20 minutes trying to decide which phone to get. I eventually whittled my choices down to two phones. The LG G3 and the HTC One M9. After a bit of research and test driving, I chose the HTC One M9.
It is a seriously nice phone. The materials used to craft this baby are top notch, and definitely give the impression of quality. I very much like the way it looks and sounds, and even though it could be unwieldy to hold (slippery), I got around that issue by slapping a nice Spigen case on it. HTC's Uh Oh protection is a nice touch and the specifications are equally as impressive, which helped sell this phone to me. The thought of a 64-bit 8-core CPU was exciting.
It's my first flagship phone; everything should be impressive. And yet, I'm kind of not impressed. My two main complaints about this phone are the button placement (I think having the power button and volume buttons on the same side of the phone and right next to each other is kind of silly, then again, my N5 wasn't like that, so I could just be used to that layout. ) and the performance. Yes, you heard me, the performance. I don't even care about the joke of a camera this thing has, it's really the performance of the cutting-edge octacore CPU that they slapped in this thing that really frustrates me. Out of the box, this phone comes underclocked due to overheating issues. That, to me, is downright laughable. Did anyone at HTC test this phone? A flagship device whose performance is throttled from the moment you turn it on. That's like buying a Corvette straight from the dealer, starting up the car and finding out that Chevy disabled two of the cylinders in the engine to ensure it didn't overheat. It's not just the thought of this that bugs me, the performance of the phone is actually terrible at times. My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
Overall it's been bittersweet experience. I really like this phone, I want to love it, but I can't. I realize that this device is still in its infancy and HTC can roll out updates to hopefully iron out some of these problems. I also realize that the community for this phone is also in its infancy, and that down the road, there may be terrific alternatives to Sense 7 and the Stock Kernel. But I have 5 days left, and the idea of swapping this phone out for something better is slowly starting to grow on me. I've been toying with the idea of getting an Xperia Z3 or LG G3 instead. It'll cost me $50 to swap the M9 out for a different phone. On the other hand, my mind is telling me to be patient and that it'll work out in time with this phone. So I turn to you. Anyone else share the same frustrations with me? What do you think I should do? Should I wait or should I swap this baby out for something else?
UPDATE June 8th 2015:
I went to the T-Mobile store the day after posting this. I researched and thought long and hard about the decision I had to make. After a while I came to the conclusion that I would be paying $50 (Restocking fee) to essentially downgrade to another device. In fact, the only other flagship device that even appeals to me at this point is the LG G4, which seems to be getting along as well as the S6 and One M9 have been (from what I've read). Thanks to recommendations from others in the community, I made some changes that have greatly improved my experience with this device. I'm still not a huge fan of Sense 7 nor am I astonished by the Camera's performance, but a new launcher restored much of the stock Android feel and an upcoming firmware update promises to improve the camera. Performance while multitasking is fantastic and while there are a few hiccups here and there, I can't say my experience is any worse than what it was with my Nexus 5. The Battery life, a common complaint from others about this phone, is fantastic in my eyes. It's nice to sometimes forget about charging my phone at night, waking up the next morning and still having enough juice to get me into the afternoon.
Overall, I've only recently concluded that I did not give this device a fair chance for as long as I should've. Coming from my Nexus 5, the change was a bit of a shock. I suppose that played into my initial disappointment. I'm actually starting to fall in love with this phone. Compliments and exclamations of wonder and impact are common from others that I let check out my phone, even from die-hard iPhone fans, which is always nice. I figured that I should update this thread because I see the conversation still continues. No phone is without its flaws, my beloved N5 was hardly without its own. Many "flaws" are a matter of perspective. I'm confident I've made the right choice with this device, and I look forward to the bright future that lies in store for it (please God, give me an AOSP ROM).
ps. The 1.5 clock only applies to the A53 cores. I'm sure people more technically inclined and chime in and confirm this.
I've had nothing but smooth operation on this phone. I am on Leedroid at the moment, but was on international stock rom before and was just as smooth.
I'd be looking as to why you are experiencing the performance issues, and if you're not happy, I'm sure the consumer protection laws in the US allow you to return it for something else?
Best of luck
You are in the 14 day window go an return it
Go get your nexus 5 back or talk to someone who isn't trying to hose you into buying a new phone.
https://support.t-mobile.com/message/389200
Granted I don't know if the specs on your phone didn't match up to what was described in this link, Or if you had it leased.
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My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
BUBBA DUB'S said:
Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
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Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
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Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
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I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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BUBBA DUB'S said:
I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
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Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
Cryosx said:
Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
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True, I actually got rid of google now because it was annoying me every time my phone slipped out of my hand and started it. I still am hopeful knowing the m9 should get multiple updates in the future and run 5.1.
dondavis007 said:
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
reubenskelly1992 said:
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Weird
hamdir said:
why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
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still you are brute forcing the M9 into throttling its GPU this way and about the best thing on the M9 is actually gaming speed thanks to it's very powerful GPU
Coming from a M8, at first i was a little frustrated for the overheating and the camera of the M9. But then, neither the m7 or m8 were great cameras.
I read a lot of reviews and even started thinking of selling the M9 but swap for what? S6 ? God no, please, no more touchwiz. Lg,i had the lg3 and it was L(a)G and slow, much slower than the M8 (i know, different screen's resolution). So, in the end, i prefer keep the M9, the camera improve a lot with the update, and many more updates will come.
Then, there is sense 7, sense is one of my favourites android skins. Light, smart and very, very fast. I absolutely have no lag in M9 (all stock). And i use a lot blinkfeed, i missed it in any non Htc phone. And there is the boomsound, the touch to awake screen...
When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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I occassionally play a round of Boom Beach, Clash of Clans or Limbo while the phone is on the charger. Can you elaborate a bit on how this could "kill the battery"? Is it related to charging while the GPU is cranking up the thermals?
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When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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I'm using the stock Sense launcher and my phone is buttery smooth. While I don't use the Google Now Launcher, Google Now performs great on this phone.
All of the games that I play are also super smooth. Granted, I don't play games that demand a high frame rate, but those games that I do play are far smoother on this phone than my old M7.
The one issue I had with the phone was what seemed like spotty issues with wifi. I did a cache partition wipe yesterday and it seems to have helped the issue.
Hello all,
I'm looking for a small phone with a headphone jack and good battery life, and it seems like x compact fits the bill.
Is it holding up well in 2019?
How is the battery life?
Should I update the software? (Some people complained about drain issues)
Would you recommend it or should I get something else like moto x4 instead? Thank you.
Battery life is decent, however the phone is laggy and I would not recommend buying it now. It's CPU is just not enough.
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Hello all,
I'm looking for a small phone with a headphone jack and good battery life, and it seems like x compact fits the bill.
Is it holding up well in 2019?
How is the battery life?
Should I update the software? (Some people complained about drain issues)
Would you recommend it or should I get something else like moto x4 instead? Thank you.
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I like it. Depends on your goals... I'm kind of surprised to hear that the cpu is not good enough (above). I guess if you're looking for a major gaming phone that you can watch movies on at the same time or something, maybe it's lacking, but I haven't had any lag issues. I mainly use stock-based rom; if you want to always use some AOSP custom rom, the problem is likely with the rom, not the phone. For the size, you won't get anything better, except maybe the XZ1 Compact, which is pretty similar, but costs more, (and I think a little bigger - not sure). Anything Motorola at this size would probably be a downgrade.
The main thing XC has going for it right now is (almost) official Sailfish OS support, with new updates rolling out now.
Overall it's a great phone, but as things move so fast these days, it probably will slip into obscurity at some point soon...
Thank you guys. I just want want a phone I can easily put in my pocket when I go jogging or outdoors, for google maps and podcasts, not so much for gaming. I also like how easy it looks to replace the battery on it unlike the xz1 c or current phones.
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Battery life is decent, however the phone is laggy and I would not recommend buying it now. It's CPU is just not enough.
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well I dont agree with you on that,
Xc is absolutely lag free on Stock Oreo rom, specially for a person who only uses it for daily routines. if you want a perfect phone which is also more durable than xc, you could go for xz1c otherwise X compact is an absolute beauty and beast at the same time!
It's super fast on stock Oreo. Switching apps is super responsive and loading them is very fast. No lag too. Although the screen refresh rate is not that buttery smooth 60fps. Something that Sony did since the Z3 series to conserve battery.
I say avoid flashing custom ROMs for the X Compact, for now. It's one of these phones that just haven't really improve in any way yet when a custom ROM is used, its very laggy.
No problems with my Xperia X Compact. About as small and light a phone as you're likely to find. The battery life is good under Oreo, and the phone functions smoothly, as long as you're not trying to run too many apps concurrently, as the RAM is 3 GB rather than the more typical 4-6 nowadays. You can also obtain the phone for less than $200 new through eBay, etc.
Although others may disagree with me, I felt that in my own side-by-side comparisons with the XZ1C, photos taken with the XC had less of the dreaded "smear" processing in things such as grass and foliage, a problem that most Sony phone cameras share.
I like this phone so much that I bought a spare.
I would not buy a used X Compact, however, as any phone used for 3 years is likely to have a less than adequate battery.
+1 at recommending this phone. Battery life is quite good, no lags in daily use (YouTube vanced, messengers, web browsing, reading pdf,..). Camera is decent. Even though we don't have ufs storage the transfer speed is fine.
I was surprised that it runs faster than my former Zuk Z2 Pro (SD 820, ufs, 6 GB Ram).
Sometimes mine gets unusual warm and drains rather quickly. This happens maybe every 1 - 2 months for no obvious reason and then vanishes again.
Btw. I'm using stock oreo. Only thing that annoys me is too much bloatware. While you can deactivate most, you can't uninstall it (at least I can't without root).
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Btw. I'm using stock oreo. Only thing that annoys me is too much bloatware. While you can deactivate most, you can't uninstall it (at least I can't without root).
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ADB shell
pm clear com.sonymobile.entrance
pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.sonymobile.entrance
This works in Oreo
The names of the packages you will get with any package viewer app.
I wasn't able to remove swiftkey - but perhaps I made a mistake in writing the app name. Don't care about it so much.
EDIT: it seems that as the app was waiting to update in Google Play it did not allow to uninstall it for the current user. After I updated it and it went out of the queue, all went fine.
Works fine and I use it as a phone with apps. At home/work I use a wifi only Moto X4 as the display is slightly larger. Could use any tablet of course.
I have found that disabling any app I don't use will, after restoration of the initial firmware-supplied version, leave a "stub", which is often less than 100 kb. This just serves as a location for downloading the latest version in the event that the app is enabled once more. So, practically speaking, you can reclaim most of the space formerly taken by the now-disabled apps. The only app I've had trouble with in a disabled state has been Swiftkey, so I leave it installed and simply select Gboard, which I prefer.