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First of all Hello to all of ya Nexus'ers , How are ya's?
As the title says ,i've just ordered my 16GB Nexus 4 and its on its way to my place XD Expecting it in 3-5 business days (According to Play Store)
And i must admit...i really cant wait...this is gonna be me first real Top-Notch smartphone (As you can see in my signature, my earlier models werent exactly gutsy).
I've always been a Xperia user so im pretty much used to how that phone worked (Rooting,Recovery,CWM etc) but judging by a few posts i've seen around the N4 is going to be a whole new diferent world me.
Any of ya's got any tips for me to use my phone efficiently and get the most out of it ? (Or avoid doing something for w/e reason?)
Yeah it sounds like quite a newbye question (Which i dont think i am) but sometimes very few small tips avoid future major issues or damage.
Thanks in advance chaps ,
Respect.
EDIT : Tips so far from all of the awesome N4 users around :
-Buy : Case + Protector
-Mod : Unlock BL + Root + Flash ROMs or Kernels.
-Possible Issues : Rear Glass is very sensible.
The nexus 4 is my 7th android phone. I rooted and rom'd every one of them until now. For me, it is just that rock solid. I may eventually root for the permissions. But I haven't been tempted to replace the ROM. My suggestion is to just enjoy the stock android goodness!
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rogerski1 said:
The nexus 4 is my 7th android phone. I rooted and rom'd every one of them until now. For me, it is just that rock solid. I may eventually root for the permissions. But I haven't been tempted to replace the ROM. My suggestion is to just enjoy the stock android goodness!
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First of all thanks for the tips!
Yeah i've been looking around and i could see that besides benchmark scores...the diference between the diferent ROMs around isnt significant ,mostly just styling. So yeah i am thinking of just keeping the stock ROM not only for the Warranty but also the fact that i've always been fighting to get a stock AOKP/AOSP feel in my Xperias...and here it just comes by default XD.
Btw,can this phone be rooted without unlocking the bootloader ? And also will Rooting void the Warranty?
What about Hardware stuff ? As in...something i should know about the phone casing or interior issues?
Respect
You need to unlock bootloader to root.
More tips: this phone has a /sdcard partition. It won't get wiped when you factoy reset. It's a good thing to know.
don't RMA for stupid reasons.
@aba Oh alright ,hmm thats making me think if i should unlock the bootloader or not.
@m4r0v3r No worries mate, unless there is a important and/or noticeable issues ,i'm not planning to RMA it.
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@aba Oh alright ,hmm thats making me think if i should unlock the bootloader or not.
@m4r0v3r No worries mate, unless there is a important and/or noticeable issues ,i'm not planning to RMA it.
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good stuff, I guess unlock, root, and flash another kernel on is the first thing to do, personally I prefer Matrixes kernel and trickster mod to tame the beast. Roms wise I've used Paranoid Android and CM10.1, really it was all for the PIE feature and I prefer the one on CM10.1. Your choice really, but that's the only reason am not on stock rom because that thing is pretty damn good.
Like someone suggested, unlock and root, then play with stock for a while. It will be a similar to your past cm10.1 experience. But just see how it works for you. Then, go ahead and flash away.
I've had cm on mine for months, but then I had to flash the factory image to fix the storage issue and I've stayed with it for the last week.
No matter what, enjoy it!
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Unlock the bootloader so if you decide to root or flash custom roms you can do so without fully wiping your device allowing you to back up your data before
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Get a case, and screen protector.
I like Cruzerlite. The back of the phone is glass. I would set up some cloud apps if you already haven't. Adrive and box gave me 50gb each. I stayed with stock for some time, but I didn't know what I was missing out on. I stayed stock for so long, because my last phone only had cm9.I wanted to feel jelly bean. I couldn't stand the bottom three buttons and pie control has taken care of that. I use razbeanjelly rom with Franco kernel. With the new kernel my battery life is so much longer.
Look up what your new phone can do and iPhone can't.
Have fun
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I agree. Get a case to protect your investment and from accidental falls. So yeah you must be unlock in order to root the device.
And don't ask what rom or kernel is the best. Lol.
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Just want to give my experience - better to unlock as soon as you get it, I regret not doing that because I had to do a full wipe after using the phone for a few weeks!
So I'm toying with the idea of getting a new phone. Currently using an SGS3 and I'm getting bored of it. I've gotten really used to using CM10.1, and have been wanting a more native experience that is akin to what I have on my N7. The problem is, on my SGS3 I'm having issues with various roms either not giving me good enough battery life, or there are stability issues (current ROM is actually experiencing both right now).
I've been toying with the idea of going entirely new, either HTC One or SGS4, but the downside to either is that the community for both are infantile, and I don't really want to wait. Both phones have some fantastic qualities, and either would be great. However, going back to what I originally said, I'm really liking the base Android feel, without any junk overlaid (TouchWiz or HTC Sense, though Sense 5 is kind of pretty).
I guess that leads in to a couple of questions. First, would anyone recommend NOT switching from SGS3 to an N4? Would I be prudent to wait for Google I/O before going with an N4 in case they release new hardware revisions? And finally, if given a choice between the 4 devices listed (SGS3, SGS4, HTC One or N4), what would be the pick? I know they have a laundry list of differences, but I'm thinking a more overall picture. The only phone listed that I haven't actually physically used is the SGS4 (for reasonably obvious reasons). I've been really leaning towards an N4, but are there any major downsides that I might want to know about? The biggest thing is whether or not I should go with the brand new or with something that is somewhat more established.
Sorry for the slight hijack.
toxictaru said:
So I'm toying with the idea of getting a new phone. Currently using an SGS3 and I'm getting bored of it. I've gotten really used to using CM10.1, and have been wanting a more native experience that is akin to what I have on my N7. The problem is, on my SGS3 I'm having issues with various roms either not giving me good enough battery life, or there are stability issues (current ROM is actually experiencing both right now).
I've been toying with the idea of going entirely new, either HTC One or SGS4, but the downside to either is that the community for both are infantile, and I don't really want to wait. Both phones have some fantastic qualities, and either would be great. However, going back to what I originally said, I'm really liking the base Android feel, without any junk overlaid (TouchWiz or HTC Sense, though Sense 5 is kind of pretty).
I guess that leads in to a couple of questions. First, would anyone recommend NOT switching from SGS3 to an N4? Would I be prudent to wait for Google I/O before going with an N4 in case they release new hardware revisions? And finally, if given a choice between the 4 devices listed (SGS3, SGS4, HTC One or N4), what would be the pick? I know they have a laundry list of differences, but I'm thinking a more overall picture. The only phone listed that I haven't actually physically used is the SGS4 (for reasonably obvious reasons). I've been really leaning towards an N4, but are there any major downsides that I might want to know about? The biggest thing is whether or not I should go with the brand new or with something that is somewhat more established.
Sorry for the slight hijack.
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Between the 4 devices, I would pick the N4, simply for the fact that vanilla Android is just so much prettier than Touchwiz and Sense. Plus, the Nexus looks better that the One and the S4, in my opinion.
To find flaws for the other devices, the One only has a 4mp camera, and, although they say it's still a very good camera, I have my doubts. The SGS4 is the live proof that Samsung has run out of ideas for their phones. Why would anyone need two processors on a phone , running alternatively, just for battery life? They could have done something else with that unused space.
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Between the 4 devices, I would pick the N4, simply for the fact that vanilla Android is just so much prettier than Touchwiz and Sense. Plus, the Nexus looks better that the One and the S4, in my opinion.
To find flaws for the other devices, the One only has a 4mp camera, and, although they say it's still a very good camera, I have my doubts. The SGS4 is the live proof that Samsung has run out of ideas for their phones. Why would anyone need two processors on a phone , running alternatively, just for battery life? They could have done something else with that unused space.
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The camera on the One is a big downside for me. I've seen some comparisons and it definitely has visible differences. While I don't take a lot of pictures, when I do, I want them to look good. Fortunately the 8MP camera in my SGS3 has been good, and I don't necessarily think that the N4 would be a whole lot different.
I agree that the vanilla Android look is awesome. It is currently a big reason why I'm looking to get away from my SGS3 like I said. I've been using a CM10.1 based ROM on it, and I can't go back to TouchWiz at all. Obviously my N7 is using vanilla Android as well, and I'm just so used to it now that anything else is bleh. It really feels better, having used a few different interfaces on Android phones (my first was an HTC Desire using some version of Sense, obviously TouchWiz, and I've played with Sense 5, none of them appeal to me any more).
I'm trying to price an N4 right now so that I might just head out tomorrow and get one.
I know there are some threads on it, but how obvious is the heat throttling on the N4? I do play some games that generate heat (for example, the last Kairosoft game I played causing my tablet to become almost uncomfortably warm, and I do play Ingress with tends to make my SGS3 pretty warm as well). If I have any reservations about the N4 aside from lack of expandable storage (easily solved with USB OTG though, which I do with my N7 anyway), its the throttling and battery life.
toxictaru said:
The camera on the One is a big downside for me. I've seen some comparisons and it definitely has visible differences. While I don't take a lot of pictures, when I do, I want them to look good. Fortunately the 8MP camera in my SGS3 has been good, and I don't necessarily think that the N4 would be a whole lot different.
I agree that the vanilla Android look is awesome. It is currently a big reason why I'm looking to get away from my SGS3 like I said. I've been using a CM10.1 based ROM on it, and I can't go back to TouchWiz at all. Obviously my N7 is using vanilla Android as well, and I'm just so used to it now that anything else is bleh. It really feels better, having used a few different interfaces on Android phones (my first was an HTC Desire using some version of Sense, obviously TouchWiz, and I've played with Sense 5, none of them appeal to me any more).
I'm trying to price an N4 right now so that I might just head out tomorrow and get one.
I know there are some threads on it, but how obvious is the heat throttling on the N4? I do play some games that generate heat (for example, the last Kairosoft game I played causing my tablet to become almost uncomfortably warm, and I do play Ingress with tends to make my SGS3 pretty warm as well). If I have any reservations about the N4 aside from lack of expandable storage (easily solved with USB OTG though, which I do with my N7 anyway), its the throttling and battery life.
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I haven't had any heat problems with the N4. Those were new android users that thought that a 40 degree Celsius processor is an overheating one
Had mine for like two+ months now. It's my seventh android phone. I rooted it and changed it as soon as I opened the box. I have since played with stock ROMs and while they are nice I don't see the point in not running a faster and smoother ROM with more features. Its what nexus is all about IMO.
Enjoy it. I do.
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the htc one goes for $800 on ebay. .the nexus 4 can be had for $300. So if you pay the same price for both, get htc > sell > buy nexus 4 > have leftover cash.
I just ordered 2 nexus 4. here are some issues to look out for.
creaking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbx825UGZWw
yellowing tint (can't find link)
gap in bezel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2129337
thread listing a bunch of possible issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146600
As some one above mentioned,unlock the bootloader before installing any thing.This would save a lot trouble later if you want to switch to custom ROM.
I would suggest try Paranoid Android or CyanogenMod,they would serve the need of the most.
bob13bob said:
the htc one goes for $800 on ebay. .the nexus 4 can be had for $300. So if you pay the same price for both, get htc > sell > buy nexus 4 > have leftover cash.
I just ordered 2 nexus 4. here are some issues to look out for.
creaking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbx825UGZWw
yellowing tint (can't find link)
gap in bezel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2129337
thread listing a bunch of possible issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146600
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I wish I could get them for the same price, but no such luck.
Hello guys...I don't own this device but I am interested what you like/don't like on it it seems to be a great phone.
Also I'm interested to exchange my Nexus 4 for an Oppp Find 5.
Now you guys write some sentences about your Fins 5
I definitely like the look and feel of the hardware. It is nicely build.
However I start to dislike the software. Some bugs of the official
firmware are annoying. ColorROM is also in Beta and not fully ready,
I guess.
Though I haven't tried any CustomROMs so far. But I'm sure other
can eloberate on this.
I haven't had mine long, but it has amazing build quality. Also, you almost have to be willing to root it to be able to tweak and maintain it at this time. The official ROM is beta at the moment, as was mentioned, and has it's share of quirks. There's a new Oppo phone coming out and you may want to wait for that before you decide to get one, but it certainly has the specifications at a good price point to last a while.
oblikas said:
Hello guys...I don't own this device but I am interested what you like/don't like on it it seems to be a great phone.
Also I'm interested to exchange my Nexus 4 for an Oppp Find 5.
Now you guys write some sentences about your Fins 5
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I'm going to sell it for just one reason: International version does not support 900MHz 3G, which is causing me annoying indoor issues; other than that it is a great device. Maxwen's AOKP is stable enough for daily use (ColorROM isn't).
Check your carrier's frequencies before buying one.
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I'm going to sell it for just one reason: International version does not support 900MHz 3G, which is causing me annoying indoor issues; other than that it is a great device. Maxwen's AOKP is stable enough for daily use (ColorROM isn't).
Check your carrier's frequencies before buying one.
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Will you change it for a Nexus 4?
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Will you change it for a Nexus 4?
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Yes I could, even though I was looking forward to Xperia Z1 Mini. It mostly depends on Nexus conditions... I bought mine in May
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Yes I could, even though I was looking forward to Xperia Z1 Mini. It mostly depends on Nexus conditions... I bought mine in May
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It really is a nice device. The thing I like MOST about it is their dedication and support to the development and customization cause. I speak with my money where I can, and I can tell you it'll be either Oppo or Sony (even if someone else decides to play).
Also, I have not run into a phone yet that doesn't have some little annoyances with ROM's beyond the one provided on the phone. The difference here is, you'll find those annoyances on the stock ROM. I root and flash customs on all my devices, so I haven't given the latest stock ROM a sniff.
If you want AOKP, AOSP or CM, you've found a good device. It also helps to have the devs we've got thus far on the device.
Tipping point - Faux123 has one. Whether you use stock or not, you want this dev to have a device you own. Dude's a rock star for kernels (Max and others are great in their own right) and it's the only one going for stock that I know of.
Full disclosure - I am a moderate to heavy work user... I don't play games much if at all, or watch movies on my device. An occasional picture or two is not out of the question.
Absolutely happy with it. Its come so far from when it was first released..as far as the software is concerned. It's a fantastic device. No other OEM is as open as OPPO and hardware wise, its a top dawg for sure
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Absolutely happy with it. Its come so far from when it was first released..as far as the software is concerned. It's a fantastic device. No other OEM is as open as OPPO and hardware wise, its a top dawg for sure
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And, there are two Coloradan's that own them :highfive:. If that doesn't seal the deal, nothing will!
I have an LG OG..basically a n4..I'm having a hard time choosing which one to carry. Both have their strengths ..for me the LTE is kind of a big issue. I'm a power user with unlimited data and I enjoy flexing that right often... Fortunately for the oppo most places I go, work, home, school, friends house wifi is available. There are endless amounts of decent custom ROMs for the LG as its pretty much a n4 but I find stock to run fairly smooth and the whole efs backing up for GPS issue just ticks me off, only worked once for me and the ROM was so unstable otherwise I went back to stock .. The oppo on the other hand has been on TeamAslyums Build since day1 with no issues
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I like it very much,It's great after I flash CM
The phone is great,and OPPO just confirmed they'll be adding a root toggle somewhere in the UI for geeks convenience. It doesn't get any better than that no matter how you slice it. Actually the stock ROM is plenty nice,if it wasn't for the battery issues on the latest beta,I'd say it's rock stable.
Had a hardware problem, a month later is not here yet. Aside from that, I am happy. The phone is awesome.
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I've been in doubt between Xperia Z and the Find 5. Now I'm happy with my choice, although I believe than the Xperia Z it's a very good phone.
Specially I'm happy with the wide community supporting this phone, making differents ROM's. Now we have 4.3 already!!!
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I've been in doubt between Xperia Z and the Find 5. Now I'm happy with my choice, although I believe than the Xperia Z it's a very good phone.
Specially I'm happy with the wide community supporting this phone, making differents ROM's. Now we have 4.3 already!!!
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Finally got a xperia z..
But both phones are sexy n' fast
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Hello, please, could you tell me, how are you content with GPS precision in compare with similar phones? I'm interesting especially of Oppo Find 5 vs Nexus 4 (as I know, Nexus has really fast first fixation and very good precision of GPS).
Thank you very much. H.
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Im very happy with my Find 5.
I came from a Lumia 920.
I wanted a phone with Android and open Source Codes, good Hardware and a nice Screen.
All this have the Oppo, and thats for a fair price.
I tested several Firmwares.
CM, CodefireX, AOKP, and at the Moment PA 3.99.
Great Software Support here at XDA.
I’ve come from the Nexus 4 so have good knowledge of both
The Nexus 4 is a capable phone, a nice size with a decent screen, mediocre camera and medium build quality and very average battery life with a 720 screen.
The phones fluid and responsive but the sound quality is poor.
The reason I swapped was my Nexus became unusable because whilst charging the charger melted to the phone! LG and Google didn’t want to know because I removed the screws on the back to unpick the charger remains, it’s now sat next to me looking very sad
Time for a new phone
I opted for the Oppo I had been watching this and really wanted it since it came out.
The Oppo is solid and I mean SOLID the build quality leaves everything behind including Iphones.
The Screen is 1080 and is a real step up from the Nexus in both real estate and quality.
Battery life is about the same as the Nexus and despite people moaning it’s not great? it is when you consider the size and quality of the screen.
The Camera is also way better than the Nexus camera by a long shot
The current Colorom is good but the battery did take a big hit from the previous version that was pretty good, you can choose any 3rd party rom you want but the Colorom is pretty nice so I think I will stick with it.
Overall the comments on the net are pretty spot on, brilliant hardware mediocre software that can only improve.
If you have the choice between the Nexus and the Oppo I would go for the Oppo I haven’t regretted it for a second :good:
Very pleased
I got my Oppo Find 5 a couple of days ago and I'm already in love with it. High quality build and the ability to use custom ROMs is awesome.
So guys, I think I will be moving to the Nexus 5 and I water to take your opinions and if you want to change to it...then why?
I have two main reasons, the first would be to simply expand, I would like to test other phones than samsung and starting with a Nexus is the perfect choice. The other and MAIN reason would be Rom and Mod comp ability. What I mean here is that stock nexus devices should and as I know get many Roms, and i love exploring all the great Roms out there, and love tweaking my phone to the MAX. The problem here is that I own an I9500 and as you know that thing has a very low amount of Roms (Thanks to all debs who went through and created Roms for this device) but what I mean is that they are very limited. I remember on my Galaxy S1 how many Roms there were and how many Roms I flashed. Another problem would be that there are no stock android Roms, or stable ones at least, which limits everything. Along side with that Samsung is making it even harder to flash custom Roms (there is a post about this) but anyway it is becoming tougher, and that is kind of the opposite of what I want ( I AM NOT HATIN, I HAVE BEEN A SAMSUNG USER FOR YEARS). One example would be that we can't flash an older firmware, and that made so many problems for people like loosing their IMEI.
So tell me your opinions.
Nexus line will always be the first to get software updates. What you'll lose from moving are the expandable memory, removable battery, better camera, IR feature, perhaps better headphone sound as your version has the Wolfson DAC. Somethings to consider if any of those are important to you. Us i9505 owners have better development, also the ability to flash GPE roms.
I've personally ordered the N5 to give it a try if I don't like it I will return it under the DSR regulations we have in the UK. I do like Nexus products heck I had the N4 before moving to the S4 and have a N7.2 as well so know how development for those products are.
You'll gain instant updates, a plethora of roms and kernels, hassle free unlocking and no lock downs like Knox. A beefier CPU. Etc.
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Nexus line will always be the first to get software updates. What you'll lose from moving are the expandable memory, removable battery, better camera, IR feature, perhaps better headphone sound as your version has the Wolfson DAC. Somethings to consider if any of those are important to you. Us i9505 owners have better development, also the ability to flash GPE roms.
I've personally ordered the N5 to give it a try if I don't like it I will return it under the DSR regulations we have in the UK. I do like Nexus products heck I had the N4 before moving to the S4 and have a N7.2 as well so know how development for those products are.
You'll gain instant updates, a plethora of roms and kernels, hassle free unlocking and no lock downs like Knox. A beefier CPU. Etc.
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Thanks for your answer. As for my loss, well you will always need to sacrifice something to get something else, but for me the most vital thing would probably be the expandable storage and maybe the headphone sound. As for the IR blaster, camera, and battery they aren't major for me, as I have never had to change batteries, barely used the IR blaster, and don't use my phones camera when taking important photos. So I hope that if I do get the Nexus 5 I would have a great experience.
You sure will have a great experience. Just check the N4 and N7 threads and see how many roms etc there are. With custom roms the experience will get even better. You may find stock Android weird at first but you'll get use to it.
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Im already selling mine on Ebay. Nexus 5 will be mine next week
nikzDHD said:
You sure will have a great experience. Just check the N4 and N7 threads and see how many roms etc there are. With custom roms the experience will get even better. You may find stock Android weird at first but you'll get use to it.
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Yup, thats the most exiting thing for me THE ROMSD just hope I don't get screwed over again and only a couple of Roms will be released....but I'm pretty sure that that won't be the case.
Stevemeister said:
Im already selling mine on Ebay. Nexus 5 will be mine next week
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Great man, congrats!! Don't forget to report back on your experience, and what things do u like better or worst..
By the way which model of the S4 of you own?
Thanks!
I own a I9505 but I hate the screen and the AOSP bugs so the new Nexus is a logical move for me.
No more waiting for android updates and no more purple smearing issue with the screen.
Can't wait !
Stevemeister said:
Thank!
I own a I9505 but I hate the screen and the AOSP bugs so the new Nexus is a logical move for me.
No more waiting for android updates and no more purple smearing issue with the screen.
Can't wait !
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I actually never had screen problems (probably because of different model) but I agree.....NO MORE WAITING FOR UPDATES!!!!
I have one on the way. I first reason I bought it so that I could play around with OSs more, not just ROMs. Trying out different ROMs is fun but it is still Android. I hope to see ports of FirefoxOS, Sailfish, and Touch for the Nexus 5.
Second, I've had many Samsung devices and developers have always found a way to get them open for playing with but KNOX is different. It was not meant to be circumvented and Samsung must keep it that way. As people figure out ways around it Samsung will be forced to take more aggressive actions or the whole thing is useless for enterprise and government organizations. Samsung started down the path and will be forced to follow it.
Last reason, I had an LG Optimus G prior to my S4, and I really liked it. It was a great device and instilled confidence in their ability to make nice handsets.
There are a few drawbacks to the change for me. I will miss some of the hardware features like the sd and battery. I will also miss some of the software my carrier provides like navigation.
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+1. I am thinking of doing the same. While nothing is perfect. The nexus 5 is as good as it can get in terms of ui and responsiveness. I have yet to read some reviews though from some of the top reviewers specially camera , screen and battery reviews. Just read CNET review and they mentioned that the screen is not as good as the iphone5 and HTC one. Not very bright and under sunlight its less that satisfactory. It also doesn't compare in terms of vibrancy to a gs4 or a note 3. The video sample footage they shot is also pretty ordinary (a little jittery and kind of extremely sharp, almost like playing a video game with AA turned off). So I am still holding my horses but really like this phone otherwise. Only if the bottom bezel (chin) wasn't too big. It feels like a waste of space.
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I think we have several Dislike Threads forS4. Why we need this one.? You wanna move on, Then its good for you but please let S4 Users live in Peace.
Well this thread does serve a purpose since people who switched can give a comparison on what is good/bad about the N5 in comparison to the S4.
I for one want a nexus device
Ever since i got into android I always had a samsung, well still have 1 year and 4 months in my contract so i guess my next device is gonna be the N6.
I need a microSD slot and I like having a removable battery, AMOLED and full-sized screen (the navigation bar takes up room). S4 for me.
Staying with S4
Why?
rocking 64GB of sexy stroage
Strong 2800 Battery (also got a 3900mah battery for it)
Octo-Core ( 4 x 4)
Android 4.3
i'll jump to S5 when its out,
Nexus 5 looks like a business phone no sd card cant remove battery and 32GB won't cut it in this day n age wake up people.
Good choice bro, i doubt you'll be dissapointed
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lethcore said:
Staying with S4
Why?
rocking 64GB of sexy stroage
Strong 2800 Battery (also got a 3900mah battery for it)
Octo-Core ( 4 x 4)
Android 4.3
i'll jump to S5 when its out,
Nexus 5 looks like a business phone no sd card cant remove battery and 32GB won't cut it in this day n age wake up people.
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Agree!
Also heading for the s5 instead of nexus.
No sd card sucks! And battery replacement is a must for me
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Hi Guys,
I know I am bound to face some bias here, since this is a Note 4 forum, but I am owner of an LG G4, previously G3 and Note 2 and 3, but have also bought a Note 4. Now, of course, I should just sell my LG G4, which I happen to like very, very much. I just can't stand the less than 3 hours screen on time, and am longing for some AMOLED, larger screen, and finger-print scanner goodness on the Note 4.
Still, before I sell away my G4, thought I'd post here and get some of your experiences/opinions on this topic, especially if you have by any chance made the same decision as me?
Thanks in advance for all your advice!
I have had both since June, and honestly it's a tough call. I really like that the G4 is fully up to date, and has Stagefright patched, and overall feels much faster and snappier than the Note 4 after deleting carrier bloat. It's also smaller and lighter and sits in the hand better for me. The only thing I like about the Note 4 is the bigger and AMOLED screen (much better colors to me plus no on-screen navigation taking up space). Also, the G4 camera does better in low light - it captures more detail. With the spare battery, the G4 is fine for me, as I always carried a spare battery for my Note 4, too.
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I have had both since June, and honestly it's a tough call. I really like that the G4 is fully up to date, and has Stagefright patched, and overall feels much faster and snappier than the Note 4 after deleting carrier bloat. It's also smaller and lighter and sits in the hand better for me. The only thing I like about the Note 4 is the bigger and AMOLED screen (much better colors to me plus no on-screen navigation taking up space). Also, the G4 camera does better in low light - it captures more detail. With the spare battery, the G4 is fine for me, as I always carried a spare battery for my Note 4, too.
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Gotcha, thanks for chiming in bud! Have you rooted and custom ROM'd your Note 4? Wondering if that upped the performance on it, like the G4? I know Stagefright is also patched in Custom ROMs? Thanks again for your help!
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Gotcha, thanks for chiming in bud! Have you rooted and custom ROM'd your Note 4? Wondering if that upped the performance on it, like the G4? I know Stagefright is also patched in Custom ROMs? Thanks again for your help!
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Oh yeah, I'm on rooted, deodexed OG2 (5.0.1) ROM on T-Mobile, all bloatware deleted. It's fast, but not as fast as the G4. I'm sure that once 5.1.1 finally drops for it, whenever that will be, it will be as snappy as the G4, because people who got 5.1.1 (Sprint, and various international variants) report the performance improves vastly with the update.
Stagefright is not automatically patched in custom ROMs as they are based on the unpatched Samsung software, unless the ROM is AOSP/Cyanogen-based as far as I know. But maybe I'm wrong.
I currently own both. Staring at them right now and I can't decide which one to sell. I love them both because they each offer something different that the other doesn't. I am currently using my G4 because refreshing to hold. One of the most comfortable phones I have ever used. The other reason I'm using the G4 right now is because of battery life. Don't know what it is, but the G4 lasts a heck of a lot longer than the Note 4, bone stock and rooted. That's the one thing LG has always been good at, battery life. I remember when I had a G Pro that lasted 2 months on standby just sitting there with wifi and bluetooth on, emails were syncing and everything. Took 2 months to die. My G4 was up for 2 days straight last week when I got it and I got 5hrs of screen time. No video watching, just mostly work, texting, school(Schoology) and XDA.
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Oh yeah, I'm on rooted, deodexed OG2 (5.0.1) ROM on T-Mobile, all bloatware deleted. It's fast, but not as fast as the G4. I'm sure that once 5.1.1 finally drops for it, whenever that will be, it will be as snappy as the G4, because people who got 5.1.1 (Sprint, and various international variants) report the performance improves vastly with the update.
Stagefright is not automatically patched in custom ROMs as they are based on the unpatched Samsung software, unless the ROM is AOSP/Cyanogen-based as far as I know. But maybe I'm wrong.
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I know I am the noob to this community, but fairly certain, the 910T3 firmware especially comes with Android 5.1.1 Stock. I could be wrong though?
Jammol said:
I currently own both. Staring at them right now and I can't decide which one to sell. I love them both because they each offer something different that the other doesn't. I am currently using my G4 because refreshing to hold. One of the most comfortable phones I have ever used. The other reason I'm using the G4 right now is because of battery life. Don't know what it is, but the G4 lasts a heck of a lot longer than the Note 4, bone stock and rooted. That's the one thing LG has always been good at, battery life. I remember when I had a G Pro that lasted 2 months on standby just sitting there with wifi and bluetooth on, emails were syncing and everything. Took 2 months to die. My G4 was up for 2 days straight last week when I got it and I got 5hrs of screen time. No video watching, just mostly work, texting, school(Schoology) and XDA.
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Jammol - Thank you for your response. I love my G4 in form factor and also looks too, I've got the Leather Back model. But my battery life is nowhere near what you said. On the G3, it was stock, debloated, Greenified, and I still could barely hit 4 hours of SOT. On the G4, rooted, debloated, not Greenified, I am barely able to hit 2.5 hours of SOT, and that is WITHOUT gaming, extensive videos and etc. Just WiFi most of the day and long conference calls for work. Example today: 5.5 hours on battery, 4 hours of calls, 1 hour 16 minutes SOT, WiFi, and no videos, I am at 51% already! Care to share your model/variant and battery set up?
Also, you forgot to mention the upside of your Note 4 ? Care to comment on it's performance and etc compared to the G4? Thanks!
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I know I am the noob to this community, but fairly certain, the 910T3 firmware especially comes with Android 5.1.1 Stock. I could be wrong though?
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True, and there is a "hybrid" 5.1.1 ROM that you can theoretically use on the T variant, but I don't know how stable/reliable it is, given the baseband and bootloader are different.
Pesronally, I only run deodexed stock ROMs that I modify myself to my liking, as I don't like all the extra garbage and ****ty themes that most XDA devs bake into their ROMs, so I'm **** out of luck until Samsung releases the official 5.1.1 update for the T variant.
EDIT: Apparently I am out of the loop. There is Xposed for Samsung for 5.1.1 now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
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True, and there is a "hybrid" 5.1.1 ROM that you can theoretically use on the T variant, but I don't know how stable/reliable it is, given the baseband and bootloader are different.
Pesronally, I only run deodexed stock ROMs that I modify myself to my liking, as I don't like all the extra garbage and ****ty themes that most XDA devs bake into their ROMs, so I'm **** out of luck until Samsung releases the official 5.1.1 update for the T variant.
Plus, there is no Xposed for 5.1.1 on Samsung devices, which is a deal-breaker for me.
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I am super "noob" confused, @siraltus - I thought 910T3 comes with Official 5.1.1 from T-Mobile US/Sammy and TEKXodous comes with Xposed 5.1.1 installer, no?
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I am super "noob" confused, @siraltus - I thought 910T3 comes with Official 5.1.1 from T-Mobile US/Sammy and TEKXodous comes with Xposed 5.1.1 installer, no?
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Yes, T3 comes with 5.1.1, but there is no offical 5.1.1 update for the regular T (not T3) variants, so we can only run a "hacked port" of 5.1.1 taken from the T3. The official update would include a T-variant baseband, bootloader, and other firmware bits (sbin, tz, etc.) that the phone needs matched up to the ROM version for trouble-free performance, the baseband being the most important.
As for Xposed, you're right - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960 I had no idea.
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I know I am the noob to this community, but fairly certain, the 910T3 firmware especially comes with Android 5.1.1 Stock. I could be wrong though?
Jammol - Thank you for your response. I love my G4 in form factor and also looks too, I've got the Leather Back model. But my battery life is nowhere near what you said. On the G3, it was stock, debloated, Greenified, and I still could barely hit 4 hours of SOT. On the G4, rooted, debloated, not Greenified, I am barely able to hit 2.5 hours of SOT, and that is WITHOUT gaming, extensive videos and etc. Just WiFi most of the day and long conference calls for work. Example today: 5.5 hours on battery, 4 hours of calls, 1 hour 16 minutes SOT, WiFi, and no videos, I am at 51% already! Care to share your model/variant and battery set up?
Also, you forgot to mention the upside of your Note 4 ? Care to comment on it's performance and etc compared to the G4? Thanks!
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I touch the Note 4 first:
I love it, I really do, but for me when a dev has to release a custom Rom to fix stupid little bugs, that's a huge turn off for me. TekHD Roms are the best so far for the Note 4 and that's what I run. I love my SPen, though I don't use it every single day; I do use it for 2 weeks straight every quarter because of my job. Beats walking around with my laptop or tablet getting readings from machines. AMOLED; I don't get the hype about the blacks. I'm black and I don't even like the colour black that much(LOL, that was a pun). The screen is indeed beautiful and I love it to death, but there's something about an LCD screen that just tickles my pickle!(another one). Last but not least...the amount of Roms; DAMN!
G4:
I think it's your calls that are killing your battery. I have the T-Mobile 8511 version and I turned off VoLTE/HD Voice. It kills battery so bad when you're on a call. I was losing 5% battery for just a 10-15 minute phone call with my wife. That's ridiculous so I turned it off. I am running stock rooted, no bloat removed(there really isn't any), and I use most of LG's apps that are on there. I was using xposed at one point but that was also affecting my battery so I got rid of it.
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Yes, T3 comes with 5.1.1, but there is no offical 5.1.1 update for the regular T (not T3) variants, so we can only run a "hacked port" of 5.1.1 taken from the T3. The official update would include a T-variant baseband, bootloader, and other firmware bits (sbin, tz, etc.) that the phone needs matched up to the ROM version for trouble-free performance, the baseband being the most important.
As for Xposed, you're right - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960 I had no idea.
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That's interesting bud... I haven't run across any threads saying that people are having trouble with the T variant phones on 5.1.1, maybe you've seen some? Otherwise, I am really not even sure which variant is "better" or to hope for tomorrow when I finally get the phone in hand ! Some say the T3 has a better GPS and feels smoother... I wonder if it's just big time placebo effect? Haha!
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I touch the Note 4 first:
I love it, I really do, but for me when a dev has to release a custom Rom to fix stupid little bugs, that's a huge turn off for me. TekHD Roms are the best so far for the Note 4 and that's what I run. I love my SPen, though I don't use it every single day; I do use it for 2 weeks straight every quarter because of my job. Beats walking around with my laptop or tablet getting readings from machines. AMOLED; I don't get the hype about the blacks. I'm black and I don't even like the colour black that much(LOL, that was a pun). The screen is indeed beautiful and I love it to death, but there's something about an LCD screen that just tickles my pickle!(another one). Last but not least...the amount of Roms; DAMN!
G4:
I think it's your calls that are killing your battery. I have the T-Mobile 8511 version and I turned off VoLTE/HD Voice. It kills battery so bad when you're on a call. I was losing 5% battery for just a 10-15 minute phone call with my wife. That's ridiculous so I turned it off. I am running stock rooted, no bloat removed(there really isn't any), and I use most of LG's apps that are on there. I was using xposed at one point but that was also affecting my battery so I got rid of it.
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Jammol, first of all, really funny response bud! I like a man who is able to take things lightly and joke around :good:! @TEKHD ROMs look like they absolutely, by far have the most users as demonstrated by it's Views and Responses! But, it's also possibly the most complicated ROM thread I have ever seen ! I really love the @TEKHD 's hard work, thank you friend! But I am not sure if it's the ROM for my needs, which, light, battery life, and just need enough tweaks to turn the Status Bar icon to Red, and change Toggle colors, and super bonus if Dialer could be black and red, and I am set! Wonder what kind of AnTuTu scores people get on that ROM?
Reading through, seems like Rapture maybe the best fit for my needs, but I just don't know. Care to share your experiences on different ROMs if you have tried those?
About the G4, I don't think AT&T offers VoLTE, but even if they do, I don't see an option to turn it off in the phone. Not to mention, how would it be working with my data off, any way?
Thanks again for your valuable input!
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That's interesting bud... I haven't run across any threads saying that people are having trouble with the T variant phones on 5.1.1, maybe you've seen some? Otherwise, I am really not even sure which variant is "better" or to hope for tomorrow when I finally get the phone in hand ! Some say the T3 has a better GPS and feels smoother... I wonder if it's just big time placebo effect? Haha!
Jammol, first of all, really funny response bud! I like a man who is able to take things lightly and joke around :good:! @TEKHD ROMs look like they absolutely, by far have the most users as demonstrated by it's Views and Responses! But, it's also possibly the most complicated ROM thread I have ever seen ! I really love the @TEKHD 's hard work, thank you friend! But I am not sure if it's the ROM for my needs, which, light, battery life, and just need enough tweaks to turn the Status Bar icon to Red, and change Toggle colors, and super bonus if Dialer could be black and red, and I am set! Wonder what kind of AnTuTu scores people get on that ROM?
Reading through, seems like Rapture maybe the best fit for my needs, but I just don't know. Care to share your experiences on different ROMs if you have tried those?
About the G4, I don't think AT&T offers VoLTE, but even if they do, I don't see an option to turn it off in the phone. Not to mention, how would it be working with my data off, any way?
Thanks again for your valuable input!
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Can I ask how come you turn off your data?
I've tried a lot of the other Roms as well but I always went back to Tek's Rom. He does have a very little customized one for the T and T3 models. It's pretty much stock with just a few tweaks to it. I've tried DynamicKat and Pop, both are really awesome but the customization is rather small on the Pop version. Rapture is already also pretty good as well as PopRocks. When it comes to AOSP/CM, I always went with CM12.1 or XenonHD which is AOSP but with a few CM tweaks.
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Can I ask how come you turn off your data?
I've tried a lot of the other Roms as well but I always went back to Tek's Rom. He does have a very little customized one for the T and T3 models. It's pretty much stock with just a few tweaks to it. I've tried DynamicKat and Pop, both are really awesome but the customization is rather small on the Pop version. Rapture is already also pretty good as well as PopRocks. When it comes to AOSP/CM, I always went with CM12.1 or XenonHD which is AOSP but with a few CM tweaks.
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I turn off data because: I am on WiFi, don't have unlimited data, and when not using data, I like to turn off the data radios to save power. Would you agree those are good reasons to turn it off?
I am so tempted to start off with Tek's ROM on my Note 4, but let's see what variant I end up with. What kind of screen on time's have you seen with the Note 4 and which ROM and Battery saving set ups? Some people hear swear by 5+ hours of SOT which would be a dream for me!
ProFragger said:
That's interesting bud... I haven't run across any threads saying that people are having trouble with the T variant phones on 5.1.1, maybe you've seen some? Otherwise, I am really not even sure which variant is "better" or to hope for tomorrow when I finally get the phone in hand ! Some say the T3 has a better GPS and feels smoother... I wonder if it's just big time placebo effect? Haha!4
Thanks again for your valuable input!
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The T3 variant most likely exists because Samsung changed suppliers for one of the key parts, like the display controller, power management, or one of the radio chips (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) which required a separate version of the OS (different drivers, configuration). They did this with the Note 3 before - units manufactured after May 2014 had a different display controller chip that broke things like brightness control in custom ROMs and TWRP.
Functionally, they're most assuredly identical. I have had two T variants, one manufactured October 2014 and one manufactured April 2015 and my GPS has been rock-solid on both, so not sure why people are having issues. The T3 feels smoother not because it's a T3, but because it's running 5.1.1. People who had their international variants and Sprint variants updated to 5.1.1 reported it was much smoother after the update as well.
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The T3 variant most likely exists because Samsung changed suppliers for one of the key parts, like the display controller, power management, or one of the radio chips (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) which required a separate version of the OS (different drivers, configuration). They did this with the Note 3 before - units manufactured after May 2014 had a different display controller chip that broke things like brightness control in custom ROMs and TWRP.
Functionally, they're most assuredly identical. I have had two T variants, one manufactured October 2014 and one manufactured April 2015 and my GPS has been rock-solid on both, so not sure why people are having issues. The T3 feels smoother not because it's a T3, but because it's running 5.1.1. People who had their international variants and Sprint variants updated to 5.1.1 reported it was much smoother after the update as well.
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Thanks for the education again, bud. I can't believe the T variant folks haven't freaked out at T-Mobile yet for the lack of 5.1.1 upgrade! Wonder if ATT and sprint have given in their's?
I had this dilemma as well. When my wife broke her s4, I went and got g4 for her (she is a big fan of removable battery, so s6 was not considered, s5 did not make sense, and note is too big). I must say, i fell in love with it once I started setting it up and played with it for a bit. I liked it so much, that I got one myself 2 days later to replace my Note 3. And it was really great, I cannot complain. But. Ended up using Jump and getting Note 4.
So in my case:
- G4 has a great form factor. REALLY comfy to hold. 5.5 seems to be a sweet spot, still big but not too big. Slightly curved shape was great. +1 for g4
- camera is hands down better then N4. Its simply amazing. Manual mode blew my mind. Cant say enough about it. +1 for g4
- g4 felt really fluid. Stock, as is, without screwing with it. Has much less bloat. Happened to love UI a lot, its classier, for a lack of a better word (totally subjective of course). Loved the knock code functionality. N4 has fingerprint scanner, but one-hand unlock is really awkward and difficult in real-life use, so I have it turned off. Now that 5.1 is available for n4, things are better for sure, and there are custom roms star popping up, but if you compare phones as is, out of the box, again, +1 for g4
- Screen/picture quality. Using Sammys phones exclusively for last 5 years (starting from original galaxy), I am too spoiled by super amoled. as great as g4 LCD dispaly is, I found myself missing that extra "pop". +1 for n4
- battery life is not in a same league as n3/n4. By significant and noticable margin. Plus virtually no power saving functionality in OS. +1 for n4
- Sound quality better on N4 to my ears, lot of other people seem to feel this way as well. Also Samsung professional audio makes things like iRig for guitar possible. +1 for n4
- Dedicated vs. on-screen buttons. I am a huge fan of good ol' Home key and I am used to it a lot. +1 for N4
- Multitasking. Even though g4 has it, it has nothing on TW, especially on LP iteration of it, with a swap from a corner. +1 for N4
- I personally did not find myself missing s-pen a lot, but I suppose its still a +1 for N4
So, ultimately, better battery life, better screen/colors, better sound and to a lesser gegree physical keys/multitasking made me go back to Note. Miss G4 camera a lot though.)
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I turn off data because: I am on WiFi, don't have unlimited data, and when not using data, I like to turn off the data radios to save power. Would you agree those are good reasons to turn it off?
I am so tempted to start off with Tek's ROM on my Note 4, but let's see what variant I end up with. What kind of screen on time's have you seen with the Note 4 and which ROM and Battery saving set ups? Some people hear swear by 5+ hours of SOT which would be a dream for me!
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Was just curious why you turned it off. That's a good thing to do to save battery. I recommend using Tek's Rom most definitely. I noticed you said let's see what variant you end up with; are you referring to T-Mobile T and T3 or carrier variants? Definitely go with T-Mobile because of the Roms.
Tek's Roms come with the Emotion Kernel. I always use Synapse to tweak the settings to balance out performance and battery. Right now I'm using Intelliactive; sleeps like a baby.
I see someone posted that the G4 has no battery saving settings. That's totally negative. You can turn on battery saver to kick in at 15% or higher than that. Sorry but the G4 lasts a lot longer than the N4 on pure stock no mods on both.
Functionality: Note 4(SPen)
Longevity: G4.
Camera: G4
Roms: Note 4(for now as G4 community is very small at the moment)
Performance: Both
Temperature: G4(BY FAR. Stays way cooler than the Note 4)
This is all based on Stock.
Update: I decided I'm going to take my G4 back to T-Mobile; not because anything is wrong with it and I don't like it, but because I rather have the money. Looking back on my post here I realized I really just got it because I wanted to scratch an itch of having a new device. Started using my Note 4 again starting yesterday and man I did miss it, even if I gotta charge it up before the end of the day! Lol. I'm a very impulsive person when it comes to smartphones, it's the only thing I don't mind shelling out a ton of money for but then later I think back about the amount of money and just would rather have it. I can always borrow my wife's and use hers for a few days if I get the itch.
Most def Note4
Note 4 is the right choice.
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I had this dilemma as well. When my wife broke her s4, I went and got g4 for her (she is a big fan of removable battery, so s6 was not considered, s5 did not make sense, and note is too big). I must say, i fell in love with it once I started setting it up and played with it for a bit. I liked it so much, that I got one myself 2 days later to replace my Note 3. And it was really great, I cannot complain. But. Ended up using Jump and getting Note 4.
So in my case:
- G4 has a great form factor. REALLY comfy to hold. 5.5 seems to be a sweet spot, still big but not too big. Slightly curved shape was great. +1 for g4
- camera is hands down better then N4. Its simply amazing. Manual mode blew my mind. Cant say enough about it. +1 for g4
- g4 felt really fluid. Stock, as is, without screwing with it. Has much less bloat. Happened to love UI a lot, its classier, for a lack of a better word (totally subjective of course). Loved the knock code functionality. N4 has fingerprint scanner, but one-hand unlock is really awkward and difficult in real-life use, so I have it turned off. Now that 5.1 is available for n4, things are better for sure, and there are custom roms star popping up, but if you compare phones as is, out of the box, again, +1 for g4
- Screen/picture quality. Using Sammys phones exclusively for last 5 years (starting from original galaxy), I am too spoiled by super amoled. as great as g4 LCD dispaly is, I found myself missing that extra "pop". +1 for n4
- battery life is not in a same league as n3/n4. By significant and noticable margin. Plus virtually no power saving functionality in OS. +1 for n4
- Sound quality better on N4 to my ears, lot of other people seem to feel this way as well. Also Samsung professional audio makes things like iRig for guitar possible. +1 for n4
- Dedicated vs. on-screen buttons. I am a huge fan of good ol' Home key and I am used to it a lot. +1 for N4
- Multitasking. Even though g4 has it, it has nothing on TW, especially on LP iteration of it, with a swap from a corner. +1 for N4
- I personally did not find myself missing s-pen a lot, but I suppose its still a +1 for N4
So, ultimately, better battery life, better screen/colors, better sound and to a lesser gegree physical keys/multitasking made me go back to Note. Miss G4 camera a lot though.)
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Great analysis and break down Sir, and I mostly agree. I think for now, I will move on from the G4, and perhaps return to LG with the V10.
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Was just curious why you turned it off. That's a good thing to do to save battery. I recommend using Tek's Rom most definitely. I noticed you said let's see what variant you end up with; are you referring to T-Mobile T and T3 or carrier variants? Definitely go with T-Mobile because of the Roms.
Tek's Roms come with the Emotion Kernel. I always use Synapse to tweak the settings to balance out performance and battery. Right now I'm using Intelliactive; sleeps like a baby.
I see someone posted that the G4 has no battery saving settings. That's totally negative. You can turn on battery saver to kick in at 15% or higher than that. Sorry but the G4 lasts a lot longer than the N4 on pure stock no mods on both.
Functionality: Note 4(SPen)
Longevity: G4.
Camera: G4
Roms: Note 4(for now as G4 community is very small at the moment)
Performance: Both
Temperature: G4(BY FAR. Stays way cooler than the Note 4)
This is all based on Stock.
Update: I decided I'm going to take my G4 back to T-Mobile; not because anything is wrong with it and I don't like it, but because I rather have the money. Looking back on my post here I realized I really just got it because I wanted to scratch an itch of having a new device. Started using my Note 4 again starting yesterday and man I did miss it, even if I gotta charge it up before the end of the day! Lol. I'm a very impulsive person when it comes to smartphones, it's the only thing I don't mind shelling out a ton of money for but then later I think back about the amount of money and just would rather have it. I can always borrow my wife's and use hers for a few days if I get the itch.
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Thanks again buddy. I must be doing something wrong with Synapse, but whenever I try to overclock the phone, somehow, tried many different Governors like Lionheart, Performance and etc, the settings go right back to normal. Do you know what I am doing wrong?
Hi,
I'm think about getting the LG2 D802. I know it's getting older - but I was looking for the following things, and after some research G2 seems like a good condidate:
- I'm not looking for something super new and expensive. As I use the phone for calls, reading eBooks while on the bus and sometimes playing a casual game. I like the screen-size.
- My previous device was HTC One X which had excellent screen with great colors. This is somehow spoiled me, and when screen quality is poor - I can see it easily
- Comes good out of the box - I used to play around with Android devices - Root them, Install custom ROM. But I don't have too much time for this those days. I heard the G2 have a decent stock rom without too much vendor junk on it.
My other option was G3, but at least from older posts, the G3 seems to have battery issues and getting warmer more often. I saw some benchmark showing the G2 being faster on menu navigation. Is is still true for those days? or the G3 problem has been fixed and I should go with it instead?
Also - I saw a friend phone with 4.2.2 and it works pretty good. I heard the 5.0 updates has some memory leaks and other issues alike? the 5.1 fixes those?
Thanks!
The phone is prettt great. But from personal experience i would not go back because of screen problems. I had a dead zone and ghosts touches. And from what i know it cannot be fixed.
Its is amaizing fast amaizing camera and still fast.
But beware of that screen problem that some people deal with including me.
The nexus 6 is a great option its going to be my next phone.
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But beware of that screen problem that some people deal with including me.
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Ermm. I wasn't aware of screen problem. How much time you own the phone? Does it happen on all models? Im planning to be D802ץ
I had it for six months.
Like i said it is an amaizing phone. But it has that one flaw. I had it on d80020y. Then updated to d80030f. But this seems to affect all models regardless of firmwire.
It doesnt matter if you never rom or root.
Research a little bit and you will see what i am talking about.
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Hi,
I have my second G2 after I broke my first one. I liked it so much, I got a new (used) one. I don't regret it! Especially when I consider the stuff what you can do with it, custom tom, this, that... I I were you I'd buy the G2 and tweak it a little bit...
Never had any screen problems! Neither with the old phone not with this one...
Still good and enugh for you.
Best advice:
Go back and read our older posts from 2 years ago when the phone was new.
Now read some of the current posts from the people who still have the device such as myself.
Long story short, there's a reason why alot of us early adopters held onto our G2s without a need to upgrade.
Its that good
new or used?
If new, there are so many other better phones to be had. I would much rather get a 2014 moto x, a nexus 5x, a oneplus x, or a used iphone 6. While the g2 was/is a fantastic phone, it does have it's shortcomings - plastic and mediocre feeling build quality(compared to the moto x, oneplus x, and iphone 6), glossy back, non-conventional button placement, camera has poor dynamic range, no marshmallow update...
If used, the g2 can be a fantastic deal if you can get it cheap enough. The only thing to keep in mind is that the battery seems to only be good for 1.5-2 years max. Also, buying a 2+ year old used phone is inherently risky and it may or many not be 100%. I bought one in seemingly mint condition for $100 not too long ago and the battery had only 50% capacity. Also, the plastic back cover is creaky which is kind of annoying - this is a common complaint.
If you don't have a super tight budget go with one of the aforementioned newer, more premium phones. You will be MUCH happier.
yes
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Still a good device, i owned one when right after release , after few months went for a Nexus 5
Who died in water
Now got myself a lg g2 again
But this time a second hands korean f320l
With spare battery and sd slot
Flashed cloudyg2 3.3 on it
And runs superb
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Still a good deal, phone is smooth as hell, the display is beautiful, the sizes are perfect (it has almost the same sizes as my 4.7" Nexus 4), if you can get a cheap one then go for it. Never had screen issues and I've been flashing things (that's when it gets really hot and screen problems can come out).
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Okiba said:
Hi,
I'm think about getting the LG2 D802. I know it's getting older - but I was looking for the following things, and after some research G2 seems like a good condidate:
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If you're buying it new and at a good price, you're getting a very special phone.
I just ordered two new batteries and some new casing - I'm going to keep this phone forever. It's already two years old.
No phone I've had has been better.
One thing. Don't get the 16gb. It's just too small now, your won't last a year more. It has to be the 32gb.
And don't bother with the G3, the battery will kill you.
Fantastic phone. I have the D801 (T-Mobile) version, and it has been problem - free from the start. Also have a Moto Maxx and a One M9, but if I could only keep one phone, I would actually choose the G2. It does everything well, and I haven't yet found a shortcoming.
Buy it!
I got my G2 D802 for £110 (brand new) on eBay (search it) . And God, it was was worth every penny. I think that unless you want a 64bit (slower) new processorprocessor, there is no reason to buy the newer budget phones like the Motorola Motor G, which are rather cheap quality with lower res screens, fatter bodies and not as good battery life.
Buy the G2, it's perfect in every way except for lack of SD card which is only a problem to some people. Also, you want to check out my review on my blog, interestconcentrated.blogspot.com/2015/09/week-2-with-g2.html. I bought less than two months, so it's very relevant. Hope it helps! ☺
Also, you might wanna check out the G3 on Ebay, it's available for £155
The default firmware sucks as it's poorly designed/ugly/slower than a custom rom like AICP. Really happy with the phone, my s3 sucks in comparison and the buttons are well placed on the g2. Only pitfall is battery life on a non-stock rom, marshmallow may fix that
Ive had the phone for about 16 months. Working perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with the phone. D802 also.
Pros -
Great screen
Great battery on Jellybean and Kitkat
Lg doesnt have too much bloatware
Sound output is best
Perfect size
Can run pretty much every game without lag
Cons -
Battery life is reduced on lollipop 5.0.2. We don't have a 5.1.
Camera is decent, nothing special.
If you do get the phone, i recommend flashing Cloudyg2 2.2. Not 3.3 which is lollipop. Just leave it at that.
Thanks everyone for your help! I think I'll be grabbing the G2. I might root it later on, but for now - it seems like a better idea is to stay on 4.2 and avoid upgrading to 5?
Thanks!
Okiba said:
Thanks everyone for your help! I think I'll be grabbing the G2. I might root it later on, but for now - it seems like a better idea is to stay on 4.2 and avoid upgrading to 5?
Thanks!
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Keep your eyes on the forums as well.
Last week I saw an update for my G2 while I was in the process of repairing my screen.
I didn't download it but my guess is its 5.1.1 for Tmobile.
I've heard 5.1.1 fixed alot of Lollipop issues for Android in general.
If and when D802 gets this version I'd recommend you investigate and see if it may be a good stock ROM to use.
Also if you ever need to replace the battery in the future, don't fret. Its very easy process and takes 15-20 minutes
The upside is amazing battery life again just like brand new
Okiba said:
Thanks everyone for your help! I think I'll be grabbing the G2. I might root it later on, but for now - it seems like a better idea is to stay on 4.2 and avoid upgrading to 5?
Thanks!
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Yes, stay on 4.4.2 20H firmware if you want to run stock. Disable all the bloat, use a different launcher and your good to go. :victory:
Just remember that all the Nexus 5.0.X firmware still had the memory leek. LG may have sorted it for there 5.0.2 but I wouldn't put money on it.
Hi, i think Lg G2 is still worth it, i bougth mine 4 months ago, and i am really happy with it.
It is fast, has Lte, a nice camera, despite it is a medium-bad camera at low light places.
I spent 250 euros on a promo. It was a nice deal i think
After i bougth it i flashed CM 12.1 eheh
I hope i could help!
Best regards