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Ok so I got my G1 and a tmobile account, judging by there coverage map I should of had great service at home, work, and everywhere in between. Well after a week of struggling with no service more then half the time I decided to unlock my phone and use my old razr's sim (att). So I knew I would want data, I go onto the att site and low and behold I can use the cheap $15/month data plan!! It works perfectly (edge only but I'm not in a 3g area either way) I have been using it for over a month now with no problems, got my bill and didn't get any overages or anything what-so-ever. The trick is that att doesn't have any G1 IMEI's in there database so they just have it listed as a unknown device and can't force you to use a smartphone data plan.
For anyone who gets ****ty tmobile service, or no 3g and no hopes of ever getting it then this is a great choice. Yea you need someone else to use the tmobile account unless you can get out of it for free (do alot of roaming they will let you out of your contract, or complain about bad service for 2-3 months). Anyway I thought I would share this with the community, hope some of you find it useful.
I think there is a similar method for the G1 where you can use the old "tzones" plan for 5$? but cheap services are REALLY slow...
Yea I read about that on modmyg but tmobile is now checking IMEI's for that to see if anyone with a G1 is using it. I don't know about the speed on there but with att I get full speed on edge just like I do on there smartphone data plan. A lot better then the GPRS I got with tmobile, if I got any service from them at all.
There was an article on boygenius and other places that as of September 9th, AT&T would start requiring the $30 data plan for all smartphones. Those on the $15 data plan (such as I) would be grandfathered in. IMEI database be damned
And the $15 data plan is not slower. I regularly clock 1 - 1.5Mbps. There are other issues however. You don't get a real internet IP which might cause issues with some apps such as VPN. VPN doesn't work well, or at all.
Generally speaking though, I've had no issues using my Rooted G1 on AT&T's cheaper $15 data plan.
Personally I think $30 data plan with a real IP address on 3G is well worth the money, it's the damn voice minutes that are way overpriced.
-James
jmacdonald801 said:
There was an article on boygenius and other places that as of September 9th, AT&T would start requiring the $30 data plan for all smartphones. Those on the $15 data plan (such as I) would be grandfathered in. IMEI database be damned
And the $15 data plan is not slower. I regularly clock 1 - 1.5Mbps. There are other issues however. You don't get a real internet IP which might cause issues with some apps such as VPN. VPN doesn't work well, or at all.
Generally speaking though, I've had no issues using my Rooted G1 on AT&T's cheaper $15 data plan.
Personally I think $30 data plan with a real IP address on 3G is well worth the money, it's the damn voice minutes that are way overpriced.
-James
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Yea I read that too.The thing is ATT doesn't have the G1 in there database because it's not a device they (officialy) support. They have no way of knowing it is a smartphone, which is why you are able to choose the $15 plan, when I had my fuze on there it wouldn't even show it as a choice. If they knew it was a smartphone you wouldn't even be able to choose it. I am in a area where 3G isn't, and probably never will be so I don't care about having it you know. If it was available then I would of gotten the Roger's dream so to be compatible with the ATT 3G bands.
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Data plans (on everything but the iPhone) are incredibly profitable for carriers like AT&T. Most smartphone users pay for way more bandwidth than they will ever actually use. That's why ATT has made the choice to start requiring data plans with all of their smartphone purchases. If you already have a smartphone with AT&T but no data plan, your phone will be grandfathered in and you will not have to buy a plan.
According to a leaked internal email found by Boy Genius this change will come to the AT&T network on September 6th. If you currently use a non-smart phone with a data plan, you will have to upgrade to a non-MediaNet plan when you buy a smartphone. Unlocked handsets will not be affected by this change.
AT&T claims that this change has been made in order to give customers the “best possible experience” by ensuring they have a “predictable bill”. That's a funny way to say, “we want more money, and you have to pay.”
To be honest, this change probably won't affect very many people. ATT notes that the vast majority of customers with smartphones use data plans. When people buy an Internet phone they tend to want to have access to the Internet. This is a pretty transparent ploy to buff profit margins, but it's also not a big enough change that it is going to get a lot of customers up in arms.
Well I've had the $15 data plan forever. I don't even remember what **** phone I used to sign up for it.
But if you want the cheap data plan here's what you do. Did this for a friend.
Find the cheapest 3G phone AT&T sells,. go on ebay, buy it for $25. Call AT&T up and register it on your account with the IMEI number, then get online and add your $15 data. Then put the sim in to your Rogers G1.
Better get on it before the due date.
Just went through my email. I bought an LG 255 off ebay for $25 and gave it to my buddy. He called in and had it added to his line. After that he could add the $15 data plan. He popped his sim out and put it in his G1.
Simple as that.
Don't feel bad about this, as AT&T is going to start enforcing this, now this the time to get on it.
-James
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Well I've had the $15 data plan forever. I don't even remember what **** phone I used to sign up for it.
But if you want the cheap data plan here's what you do. Did this for a friend.
Find the cheapest 3G phone AT&T sells,. go on ebay, buy it for $25. Call AT&T up and register it on your account with the IMEI number, then get online and add your $15 data. Then put the sim in to your Rogers G1.
Better get on it before the due date.
Just went through my email. I bought an LG 255 off ebay for $25 and gave it to my buddy. He called in and had it added to his line. After that he could add the $15 data plan. He popped his sim out and put it in his G1.
Simple as that.
Don't feel bad about this, as AT&T is going to start enforcing this, now this the time to get on it.
-James
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but then it seems like you cant really use your g1 as a phone anymore b/c the sim does not have a service plan.
shaolinx said:
but then it seems like you cant really use your g1 as a phone anymore b/c the sim does not have a service plan.
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What exactly do you mean by that? Of course you still have a plan. What he is saying is to set everything up(minutes, data, text) while the sim is on the other phone then switch it to the G1 when you are done.
James- As long as you still use a unlocked phone then you will never have to upgrade the data, even if you are a new customer after sept 6th. Like I was saying before it WILL NOT affect unlocked phones, only ATT branded ones.
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Like I was saying before it WILL NOT affect unlocked phones, only ATT branded ones.
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Well that's a releif, because if you look at $15 less per month over 24 months, you are saving $360 by staying off the $30 plan. More than enough to make up for the AT&T contract price on their phones, so I can stick with an unlocked GSM phone of my choice. I like choice.
So if I buy a new smartphone from AT&T, I won't be grandfathered anymore right?
-James
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What exactly do you mean by that? Of course you still have a plan. What he is saying is to set everything up(minutes, data, text) while the sim is on the other phone then switch it to the G1 when you are done.
James- As long as you still use a unlocked phone then you will never have to upgrade the data, even if you are a new customer after sept 6th. Like I was saying before it WILL NOT affect unlocked phones, only ATT branded ones.
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boo, that sucks... pretty much your just using a different carrier on your g1... Here i thought it was something special, like having Tmobile service plan(txt,phone,min) with AT&T 3G Data plan.
shaolinx said:
boo, that sucks... pretty much your just using a different carrier on your g1... Here i thought it was something special, like having Tmobile service plan(txt,phone,min) with AT&T 3G Data plan.
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That would be some trick for sure.
-James
jmacdonald801 said:
Well that's a releif, because if you look at $15 less per month over 24 months, you are saving $360 by staying off the $30 plan. More than enough to make up for the AT&T contract price on their phones, so I can stick with an unlocked GSM phone of my choice. I like choice.
So if I buy a new smartphone from AT&T, I won't be grandfathered anymore right?
-James
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Well if you were to buy it and add it to your current line of service I think you would be grandfathered. If you opened a new line or renewed to get a discount on the phone I don't think you would get it. The main thing is though that if it's a smartphone branded with att they wont even let you choose the $15 plan to begin with, only the $30.
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boo, that sucks... pretty much your just using a different carrier on your g1... Here i thought it was something special, like having Tmobile service plan(txt,phone,min) with AT&T 3G Data plan.
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It may suck to you, but what sucks to me is tmoblow's coverage. When I signed up they showed me a coverage map that had my home, work, and all other areas I am usually in getting GOOD-GREAT Edge coverage. I got home and I was lucky to get GPRS, and more then %50 of the time I would get no service, now I am getting service everywhere I go with att and it is stellar. Added to that, I am only paying $15 for data vs $25 from tmoblow. I thought I made it clear from the get go that I was using a different carrier, next time read slowly.
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It may suck to you, but what sucks to me is tmoblow's coverage.
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Amen to that. I actually want to be able to use my phone without standing in the middle of my street, facing 45% west with no breeze lol. It literally is that bad where I live, and it's in the middle of the city. My room mate had to get a wifi phone from T-Mobile to connect to our router just so he could at least hold a call.
I want to like T-Mobile, but their coverage is not so good in Salt Lake City, not compared to AT&T and everyone else.
-James
Exactly. I was excited try them out, they have really good voice plans and the myfaves is a great idea. But it is all useless when you have "No Service" on your screen all day. When I wanted to use my phone I had to put my head upto the window and I felt like a idiot. I get to work that day and have to go outside and walk in circles until I get a glimmer of hope that my call will go through, until I put the phone to my ear and get that deathly vibration.
I signed up for AT&T with my ADP1 back in December of last year, and, it did work, sorta.
I had the following issues:
HTTPS communications didn't work - not websites directly, nor Twidroid over SSL.
SSH via connectbot didn't work - only over WiFi
VPNs didn't work - again, only over WiFi
IMAP email over SSL didn't work.
POP3 email over SSL didn't work.
Exchange ActiveSync didn't work.
Basically, any form of encrypted connection went out the airlock.
If you can live with that, then the cheaper price is really great. If, however, any of the above is of value, you'd have to weigh that against the extra money. I went to the PDA Net plan to get those 6 things working. I use my phone regularly for SSH, and I tether my phone to my netbook frequently, and use it to access encrypted sites, VPN into work, check my email over IMAP/SSL, etc... The difference in price is worth the features, to me. YMMV...
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I signed up for AT&T with my ADP1 back in December of last year, and, it did work, sorta.
I had the following issues:
HTTPS communications didn't work - not websites directly, nor Twidroid over SSL.
SSH via connectbot didn't work - only over WiFi
VPNs didn't work - again, only over WiFi
IMAP email over SSL didn't work.
POP3 email over SSL didn't work.
Exchange ActiveSync didn't work.
Basically, any form of encrypted connection went out the airlock.
If you can live with that, then the cheaper price is really great. If, however, any of the above is of value, you'd have to weigh that against the extra money. I went to the PDA Net plan to get those 6 things working. I use my phone regularly for SSH, and I tether my phone to my netbook frequently, and use it to access encrypted sites, VPN into work, check my email over IMAP/SSL, etc... The difference in price is worth the features, to me. YMMV...
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That is a valid point. Honestly I don't use any of that so it doesn't affect me, but if I needed those features I would have to switch. I use regular email for everything through gmail so I am all good. Are you saying tethering wouldn't work for you? Because I have tethered my aspire one a few times, granted you don't get the 3G speed but it does work for me. I don't really know what SSL is used for exactly or VPN, so don't take my advice on this plan if you use those things. I just browse the web, maybe do some ebaying, make orders for supplies, and lots of email and texts.
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That is a valid point. Honestly I don't use any of that so it doesn't affect me, but if I needed those features I would have to switch. I use regular email for everything through gmail so I am all good. Are you saying tethering wouldn't work for you? Because I have tethered my aspire one a few times, granted you don't get the 3G speed but it does work for me. I don't really know what SSL is used for exactly or VPN, so don't take my advice on this plan if you use those things. I just browse the web, maybe do some ebaying, make orders for supplies, and lots of email and texts.
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No, I'm saying that when I tethered, my netbook adopted the same limitations I stated above. Other than those, it worked fined.
I use gmail, too, for my primary account, but I also check my work account on my phone via K9 or the Work Email program that does ActiveSync. Additionally, I use Thunderbird on my netbook to access my gmail over imap/ssl. That didn't work from my netbook while tethered using the normal non-PDA plan.
When I signed up for service, the sales agent actually suggested the cheaper plan at first, which is why I went with it. He said most people don't have issues, but if you do, we can change you to the PDA one. I tried it, had issues, and changed.
PhaseBurn said:
I signed up for AT&T with my ADP1 back in December of last year, and, it did work, sorta.
I had the following issues:
HTTPS communications didn't work - not websites directly, nor Twidroid over SSL.
SSH via connectbot didn't work - only over WiFi
VPNs didn't work - again, only over WiFi
IMAP email over SSL didn't work.
POP3 email over SSL didn't work.
Exchange ActiveSync didn't work.
Basically, any form of encrypted connection went out the airlock.
If you can live with that, then the cheaper price is really great. If, however, any of the above is of value, you'd have to weigh that against the extra money. I went to the PDA Net plan to get those 6 things working. I use my phone regularly for SSH, and I tether my phone to my netbook frequently, and use it to access encrypted sites, VPN into work, check my email over IMAP/SSL, etc... The difference in price is worth the features, to me. YMMV...
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I can access Google services, Paypal, and use SSH with my $15 Media Net plan. Not sure why any of this won't work for you.
coolbho3000 said:
I can access Google services, Paypal, and use SSH with my $15 Media Net plan. Not sure why any of this won't work for you.
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Yea I have used paypal a bunch of times with it. I use it almost daily along with some stuff on Google, no SSH though. Honestly I don't even know what it is, heard of it before but never payed much attention to it.
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HTTPS communications didn't work - not websites directly, nor Twidroid over SSL.
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Interesting. This explains a lot. I've been *****ing I couldn't log in to my online banking and now I know why.
Ya I think the $30 is worth it if you need it. Interesting that they choose to cripple certain things, but for $15, I can't complain.
I use RoadSync for work mail and it uses SSL, so this SSL restriction must be port specific.
Oh, and a question. If I go to the $30 data plan, does it use a different APN? like isp.cingular or something?
-James
Please forgive me if this has been posted, but it did not show in similar threads.
I have T-Mobile and was wondering if there was a way to run my tab off of the android web feature instead of the web connect plan. im NOT looking for voice feature or anything like that, just to be able to use android web instead of web connect. It would definitely save me some money.
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Please forgive me if this has been posted, but it did not show in similar threads.
I have T-Mobile and was wondering if there was a way to run my tab off of the android web feature instead of the web connect plan. im NOT looking for voice feature or anything like that, just to be able to use android web instead of web connect. It would definitely save me some money.
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People have been trying their hardest to find a way to get this working, as somewhat described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845263
Problem is that T-mobile is blocking web access to the tab IMEI's that try to use anything other than the Webconnect data packages. At least, that's the current theory that I've seen. Everyone has reported that they get taken straight to T-mobile's site or some similar page when trying to navigate the web. IMEI makes the most sense, and I believe that its not possible (or just very difficult) to change the IMEI of a device. There's no way to change that value on T-mobile's end since their systems automatically recognize the device based on its IMEI once it has been in use for ~3 days. (I work as a sales rep there, and I've tried to find a way to no avail).
Im wondering, Tmobile has a fairly decent prepaid plan, unlimited talk and text w/2gig data. I wonder if that'll work. Im probably going to try it if no one else has. Im using simple mobile right now, but definitely dropping them after my month is over. Supposedly unlimited data, but apparently capped at 1gig, and very rude customer service!! But I think by doing prepaid with tmobile, it shouldnt matter what device you are using, you dont even have to tell them what its for when you purchase it.
They will know because their network will detect the IMEI number. Unless you buy a tab from a different carrier or an unbranded one, they will know.
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Im wondering, Tmobile has a fairly decent prepaid plan, unlimited talk and text w/2gig data. I wonder if that'll work. Im probably going to try it if no one else has. Im using simple mobile right now, but definitely dropping them after my month is over. Supposedly unlimited data, but apparently capped at 1gig, and very rude customer service!! But I think by doing prepaid with tmobile, it shouldnt matter what device you are using, you dont even have to tell them what its for when you purchase it.
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I'm assuming it will treat it similarly to the postpaid accounts, seeing how they just came out with the prepaid webconnect plans. My guess is that they still use the IMEI detection, but it could be worth a shot. $70 is a steep price for testing purposes, so I'd say if anything spend the $30 for the 1500T&T/30MB plan and see if the web will even work.
very true!! i will probably give it a shot tomorrow.
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I'm assuming it will treat it similarly to the postpaid accounts, seeing how they just came out with the prepaid webconnect plans. My guess is that they still use the IMEI detection, but it could be worth a shot. $70 is a steep price for testing purposes, so I'd say if anything spend the $30 for the 1500T&T/30MB plan and see if the web will even work.
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I had posted this thread earlier about trying out my phone's SIM in my Tab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1482515
And yes, after a few minutes the SIM registered the data connection and worked.
But that's not the end of the story. I put my SIM back into my phone a few minutes later, and didn't give any of this another thought. And then, only a few minutes ago, got this text from the AT&T system:
"AT&T Free Msg: An eligible data plan is required for Laptop, Tablet, or MiFi devices. Call 611 as soon as possible for details and to avoid service interruption."
So does this mean those rat bastards saw the brief IMEI switch and won't allow me to use the Tab with my phone's SIM? Seriously WTF AT&T!
So my question to those of you with ROM'd Tabs: Are any of you using them as phones in AT&T USA? Have you ever been pestered for using an "unapproved" device with a normal SIM and plan?
You know, if I'm paying for the phone service, what the hell should AT&T care what device I use it in. What the hell are they gonna do when the Galaxy Note comes out? "Well, any devices over 5 inches are um not allowed to be phones, yeap, yeap that's it."
Seriously, AT&T is gangster.
now what if you actually bought the LEGAL GSM UNLOCKED p1000 tablet/smartphone and put AT&T sim card? could they force you to subscribe to tablet dataplan?
If you buy the factory unlocked model, AT&T won't have the IMEI in their database; in their system, they would simply see "unknown device" and wouldn't be able to enforce DER restrictions. But if your'e on an AT&T Tab flashed with the Euro ROM, the IMEI still registers and a red flag comes up when your SIM is registered on the network while inserted in the device, hence that warning message you received.
I only used my Tab as a phone for half a day, before I decided it was awkward and silly to be using such a big phone (and my BT headset wouldn't pair with it), and I never got the aforementioned message. However, I'm not on a contract; I'm not sure if that makes the difference or not.
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Basically, the OG Galaxy Tab identifies itself as a tablet. The Galaxy Note is technically a phone and will report as such. Their digital signatures are completely different, and AT&T's system will monitor for switches like that. I agree that you are paying for the service and shouldn't be seeing messages like that when switching your SIM from one device to another, but that is the sad reality of the situation over at AT&T right now.
I did the same. I've gotten numerous emails and texts. Just waiting to see what they do. I did call the number and found out that I could get a tablet data plan but I would lose my text messaging ability. The Rep just told me to keep my plan as is and couldn't figure out how I was getting data
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How long have you been using the Tab as a phone device?
I'm on a family plan with AT&T and have been using smartphones without a data plan or a text plan since 2009 and have never had a data plan, or received a message saying I need a data plan. I've used iPhone 3G, 3GS, 4, 4S, Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, and Galaxy Tab 7 Tmobile unlocked. I've swaped sims with these devices numerous times and I was never forced by AT&T to get a data plan.
Is your Galaxy Tab an AT&T branded Tab or an unbranded model? Mine is branded AT&T, and I only had my phone's SIM in it for all of 15 minutes.... surfed a couple web pages and sent a couple text messages, that was it... and then put the SIM back into my smartphone (HTC Aria, Froyo)... and a few minutes later got that system text message I quoted above.
I've been using it about a week. Its an att branded one.
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Well you better consider stopping that, because I got an email from AT&T today telling me there were recent changes to my plan. I logged into my account online, downloaded the summary, and saw a change of my phone line from my grandfathered Unlimited data plan to the 30 dollar tablet plan. When I called, the representative told me it hadn't gone through because apparently I had switched the SIM back to my phone soon enough, but if I had left it there, the system would have automatically changed the line over to a Tablet plan, and I wouldn't have been able to return to my current plan ever again. I asked her if I was paying for a service or a device, and she wouldn't answer. The end result is if the system spots the device as one in its database under "Tablet device", they will charge you an *additional* automatic 30 dollars, then eventually drop your previous plan on that line. You would then have to re-add a new line, because it doesn't convert it back automatically once the conversion has taken place.
So maybe this guy above has been ok for now, but it's only a matter of time. Probably when your next billing cycle starts. Who knows.
I really don't know for sure how it is identifying the device... IMEI I would think. I wonder if there is a way to obscure or spoof that. Otherwise I am left with a tablet that I either have to pay an additional 30 bux for, or continue to connect to my rooted Aria's wifi router. Which sux because the Aria's battery drains far quicker than the Tab's does :/
F*ck you, AT&T.
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I really don't know for sure how it is identifying the device... IMEI I would think. I wonder if there is a way to obscure or spoof that. Otherwise I am left with a tablet that I either have to pay an additional 30 bux for, or continue to connect to my rooted Aria's wifi router. Which sux because the Aria's battery drains far quicker than the Tab's does :/
F*ck you, AT&T.
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You're correct in that it uses the IMEI to identify the device within AT&T's system. Just as a heads up, tampering with the IMEI could have much more drastic consequences than just loosing your unlimited plan. Changing a cellular device's serial number, (ESN, IMEI, MEID) is a federal offense in the US and is illegal in the UK under the Mobile Telephones (Re-programming) Act, so I'd steer clear of that.
That, and it presents technical issues as well. I was mostly venting.
So AT&T wants $30 for a 2GB/month "Tablet" plan that doesn't allow SMS, MMS, or phone calling. Just data.
T-Mobile has a prepaid $30 plan (so no credit check, no contract, month-to-month) that offers "Unlimited Web" (I read that as: unlimited data), unlimited text, and 100 phone talk minutes. Basically a fully-functional phone if I so choose.
You tell me.
SIM unlock, Overcome, T-Mobile, Tab as a convenient third line and independent unlimited data plan.
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That, and it presents technical issues as well. I was mostly venting.
So AT&T wants $30 for a 2GB/month "Tablet" plan that doesn't allow SMS, MMS, or phone calling. Just data.
T-Mobile has a prepaid $30 plan (so no credit check, no contract, month-to-month) that offers "Unlimited Web" (I read that as: unlimited data), unlimited text, and 100 phone talk minutes. Basically a fully-functional phone if I so choose.
You tell me.
SIM unlock, Overcome, T-Mobile, Tab as a convenient third line and independent unlimited data plan.
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I understand, I was just putting it out there for others. You'd be surprised how many threads start like this and end with a Moderator banning someone because they start posting links about how to change an IMEI/ESN/MEID.
I would go with the T-Mobile plan, if they're willing to put your tablet on there. Although I'm not sure if they will. They'd probably end up offering the plan with a phone and you could run into the same issue as with AT&T. If they are willing to offer it for your tablet, that is a great option provided that the "Unlimited" is; 1. Truly unlimited and not capped at some arbitrary and low number
or2. The cap is lower than the amount of data you would use in a month.
Hopefully this was helpful instead of just being a re-statement of the obvious. Good Luck!
I don't see how T-Mobile could know that I have a tablet, because this device is branded as an AT&T device (thus the IMEI would probably be unknown to T-mo). That, and the AT&T plan is $30 for a capped plan (2GB).
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
Suleeto-
Here is my history with this, it may be enlightening:
1) I had an unlimited data plan with AT&T through my employer that I have had for years. I was able to switch and use any phone that worked on the network no problem at all.
2) About six month's ago I loaded the euro ROM onto an AT&T branded GT and put the SIM card that I had been using forever into it and everything worked like a charm for the next three months. No hassles, no nasty messages, and all services were working.
3) I then decided to bail from my company but they were willing to let me keep my phone number, all I had to do was call AT&T and take financial responsibility for it, etc. Remember the data plan was an unlimited phone data plan.
4) I called and AT&T was happy to port the phone number and the grandfathered unlimited data plan ($30/month) over to my family plan I had for everyone else, so far so good. At this point I had been using the GT as my daily driver for three months.
5) Within fifteen minutes of the phone call I got the dreaded text message as you describe.
6) I immediately called the person back and told her I wanted to save $5 a month could she please change the plan to a $25/month 2GB plan (I routinely use between 600MB and 800MB a month as I don't stream anything large). After warning me I could never go back to an unlimited plan as they are no longer offered, she made the change.
7) That was in October and I haven't heard a peep from them since and phone/text/data all work.
I will say that it is a good thing I am self-supporting because the service people would have no idea how to deal with the phone if I had any kind of problem. Also, I think they are sorry they ever had unlimited data plans.
Hope that helps,
Fred
So let me see if I am making sense of what you're suggesting here... the system recognized the AT&T branded Tab 7, warned you, and you called and switched from the unlimited plan to the more current tiered 2GB plan which is indeed $5 less like you said. In doing so, it seems to have circumvented whatever automatic process was starting to happen.
Yes?
I'm not sure that will help me tho... see, I wanted to be able to switch back and forth between the phone and the Tab. I go to school full time, and some of the classes are 3 hours long. I want to be able to send text messages and surf while in class. But I want to be able to use my phone once I'm out of class for the day (like evenings, weekends, etc.).
My concern is that switching back and forth might keep triggering the situation in the system, and your trick might only work one time. Eventually a human being is going to figure it out, if not immediately the second time. That's assuming that since you did it, they haven't figured out the loophole in the system's process and fixed it to recheck periodically. Who knows, they may even catch up with you, too.
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I don't see how T-Mobile could know that I have a tablet, because this device is branded as an AT&T device (thus the IMEI would probably be unknown to T-mo). That, and the AT&T plan is $30 for a capped plan (2GB).
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
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The IMEI is an international identifier. It is like a car's VIN. They are industry standard numbers that any system can decode. If you had the right information, you could tell exactly what type of device someone was using just from the IMEI. TMobile will be able to read it as a tablet just as easily as AT&T. Unfortunately, IMEI's and their data are not carrier-specific. Sorry.
So the real question is... do they care?
So what happens to my 9.99 per month additional phone line charge (still under contract by the way) if they switch that line to a "tablet" line with the $15 or $30 dollar tablet data plan? Wonder if they will still charge me the 9.99?
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So the real question is... do they care?
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I don't think so, but it's more of a question of how their system is set up. If their network controllers are set up to trigger the message and auto-adjust your account based on a change in device type in the IMEI. You could try going to a T-mobile store and asking if there are restrictions on which type of devices can go on a prepaid plan. If they say no, then you're probably in the clear. If they have a "sim-only" prepaid option, you're probably in the clear. Hope this helps. Good luck!
I was once a tech/sales/fraud/CustSvc support for ST/NET10/TF
then im now on AT&T tech
anyways, if you want to have some clarifications, questions about the said brands, you can ask me, i cannot guarantee to answer everything but go ahead
I do not represent nor am I anymore connected with Tracfone Wireless Inc on xda nor do my posts and opinions reflect those of the company, management, and or its subsidiaries
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The most obvious one, what is the true data limit to the "unlimited" data. How do they determine if you're using too much data, or how do they determine if you're streaming or tethering?
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it actually depends upon the network of the area,
we have tools to check how much bandwidth is allocated in the area
if we detect serious network impact then we know what phone number caused such,
we dont own a network we "rent" from other large telecom companies
but mostly its 2GB - 3GB before it was 5GB but due to complaints recieved by TMO/AT&T/Sprint/Verizon about our subscribers affecting the performance of their network we reduced it to 2GB - 3GB,
some though get away with having as much as 8-10GB per month, im not sure how that happens
and analyze thier marketing strategy its unlimited "web browsing" they never said downloading, tethering, streaming, internet just "web browsing"
one funny experience was when a customer said, "whats the use of having one of your android phones if im prohibited to download stuff from internet with my 'unlimited' plan"
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if we detect serious network impact then we know what phone number caused such
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Knowing this, any idea how much tethering one can get away with before ST takes action?
about 2GB - 3GB actually,
depends also on the bandwidth you are allocating
Does Straight Talk using AT&T's network have the same speed as AT&T? Or does it cap it at 500kbps like AT&T GoPhone does?
ST SIMs run in ATT & TMO towers based on what i know we have HSPA+ for our contracts, you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps
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ST SIMs run in ATT & TMO towers based on what i know we have HSPA+ for our contracts, you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps
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Hm. Well in my area AT&T gets me around 3.5-4Mbps downstream and 1-2Mbps upstream. T-Mobile was much faster most of the time but unfortunately they started compressing all images through mobile data so...
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Does Straight Talk using AT&T's network have the same speed as AT&T? Or does it cap it at 500kbps like AT&T GoPhone does?
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Hi, I just signed up because this is the same question I 've been searching for.
I'm now looking for a prepaid to save money since I'm just a student so cannot afford to try both straight talk and gophone. which one between these two has the fastest download speed? I have a 4G capable phone and just signed up for att's gophone service today with 1GB data, but the speed I'm getting is 1.7 to 2mb/s at best. would straight talk be faster than this speed?
I just heard the gophone offers throttle 3G, so it's around 2 or 2.5G, whereas straight talk does not throttle, so they are around 3.5G, is that true?
the only reason why I chose to try gophone because straight talk's 45 dollar plan doesn't allow international sms. but I can think of an alternative if straight talk is faster.
Thanks in advance!
ST now actually has a unlimited international voice/sms + local unlimited web browsing for $60, and ST runs on AT&T HSPA+ network so you can have as much as 1-1.7Mbps (at least thats what we know but some can get 4g speeds)
iPhone 4S on Straight Talk
I am very curious about using an Iphone 4S on Straight Talk. Hubby's contract with AT&T is up next month and I really want to get all the iTards off my plan So, what am I going to have to do to his phone to get as many (hopefully all) of the features he currently uses to function?
#1 requirement is tethering. He tethers (& yes, I pay AT&T their F***ing extortion fee) so he can telecommute--no downloading--just connecting to his work pc.
#2 requirement is the "Find my Friends" feature so he can keep track of all his iTard buddies & kids. Why anyone would want this, ahem, feature is beyond me.
#3 is there going to be any problem with iTunes or the Ap Store? He and the iTard kids will throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen if they can't get to the latest American Idol downloads & Tap Tap Revenge.
Thank you!
How can I keep my number when switching from AT&T to Straight Talk using my own phone? The only number transfer option they offer requires I purchase a Straight Talk branded device.
Thanks for answering my earlier question.
Since the amount of data you can use seems to vary from location to location, is there any way to check exactly how much one can use - *before* getting warned?
BKrenning said:
I am very curious about using an Iphone 4S on Straight Talk. Hubby's contract with AT&T is up next month and I really want to get all the iTards off my plan So, what am I going to have to do to his phone to get as many (hopefully all) of the features he currently uses to function?
#1 requirement is tethering. He tethers (& yes, I pay AT&T their F***ing extortion fee) so he can telecommute--no downloading--just connecting to his work pc.
#2 requirement is the "Find my Friends" feature so he can keep track of all his iTard buddies & kids. Why anyone would want this, ahem, feature is beyond me.
#3 is there going to be any problem with iTunes or the Ap Store? He and the iTard kids will throw the biggest hissy fit ever seen if they can't get to the latest American Idol downloads & Tap Tap Revenge.
Thank you!
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1.) if you are on our BYOP plan, you can tether all the hell you want, as long as we don't detect major bandwidth allocation affecting the carrier
2.) any feature that uses the internet inside your phone is compatible, you don't need to unlock your phone since you will have a AT&T sim under StraightTalk
3.) nope not at all,
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How can I keep my number when switching from AT&T to Straight Talk using my own phone? The only number transfer option they offer requires I purchase a Straight Talk branded device.
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LOL, who told you that?, you can keep a AT&T number and still use the same device, we just give you a SIM (we need to program the SIM to your number and re-register it in the AT&T network), call ST and tell them to activate the SIM, the process takes 24hrs-2 business days, or maybe they have a new policy about phone number change, it was 2 months since i worked there, but that was the process before i left
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Thanks for answering my earlier question.
Since the amount of data you can use seems to vary from location to location, is there any way to check exactly how much one can use - *before* getting warned?
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there was a code entry before, darn i forgot the code, it was used by us to check data/voice/SMS usage using the subscribers phone incase our tools go down. we use manual check to inform about the data changes
Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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I just got my sim card yesterday. I phoned straight talk to activate it. They can port a number over when you call them or on there website. I however did not port my number over yet because I want to test there service before canceling my att
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I use on average around 1-1.5GB per month with AT&T. Occasionally I come close to my 3GB cap. I've never gone over it. Would this be a problem for ST? I know they say "unlimited" but I am pretty sure it's not actually "unlimited" since nothing really is anymore.
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Nobody told me, but the website didn't allow for a number port option when buying just a SIM.
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yeah, they don't disclose that unless customer requests, because ST pays AT&T or other carriers to port the number into our database
synaesthetic said:
I use on average around 1-1.5GB per month with AT&T. Occasionally I come close to my 3GB cap. I've never gone over it. Would this be a problem for ST? I know they say "unlimited" but I am pretty sure it's not actually "unlimited" since nothing really is anymore.
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in thier marketing its not unlimited internet its unlimited web browsing
its hard for us to detect bandwidth usage, but we can easily detect bandwidth allocation,
stupid terms and conditions are as follows
Straight Talk Unlimited talk, text and data plan Features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for the use of Wireless Synch.
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the system of ST (provided by tracfone wireless) rely on AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, TMO systems, we sync data together with thier systems
and its f****** slow to sync with thier databases using our system
I know this is not about the pre paid, but I have a unlimited data non-smart phone plan and I would like to know if AT&T just does not care that I use 5+GB a month on it or if I am just lucky?
The best part is, my speeds are the same as the store phone's with the right plan's. I even have LTE were I live and when I went to a store to run some speed test I got 6.5 down and 1.5 up on H+ vs the store S2 geting about the same thing and the one x geting 8 down and 7.5up on LTE.
Thanks
well if your phone is not a smartphone under a AT&T plan we do give unlimited data with no caps, just for ordinary and classic phones,
Hello everyone! I'm going to cut right to the chase. I currently have a Nexus 6p. It's a great phone and functions fine however it may be time to upgrade to the 835 snapdragon as I perform more complex tasks with my phone. I am using Project Fi as my current cellphone provider because it is a great deal:
$20 a month for cell service and $10 for 1 gb of data = $30... and if you don't use it refunds you the unused amount so I pay roughly $24 a month for service, You can't beat it.
I want to keep Project Fi as my provider but I need to trick the ONEPLUS 5 into thinking it is a Google Pixel. I have thought of 2 solutions to this problem:
1: Is there anyway I can flash a Google Pixel rom or PureNexus to the OnePlus 5? (I feel this is unlikely but want to see if it's possible)
2: Edit init.sh file on the phone to trick the phone into thinking it is a Google Pixel.
Any assistance and solution to my Problem will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
I too had the Nexus 6p running on Project Fi but switched carriers a couple of months ago so I could use a non Nexus/Pixel phone like the 1+5 which I was planning on getting since my 6p was already feeling sluggish on day to day use. I too thought that Project Fi's prices were unbeatable since I also normally use less than a Gigabyte of data a month but some months I would go over the limit and pay around $35. I actually found another MVNO that uses T-Mobile's service and is actually cheaper, with 2 Gigabytes of data monthly I'm currently paying less than $20 dollars a month for it.
As for using Project Fi on another phone like the 1+, you probably don't even have to modify the software, it should work right off the bat but with a few caveats. First, it will only work on T-Mobile only since the 1+5 doesn't support Sprint's network. Second, you probably won't get Project Fi's cellular to wifi calling hand off capability and third, you probably won't have Project Fi's app installed in your phone to monitor data usage and payments, unless of course it allows you to sideload it to your phone.
The problem I believe is the OP5 doesn't support Sprint, US Cellular, or even Verizon in the first place.
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Any assistance and solution to my Problem will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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What the others have told you is correct. You'll be able to use your Fi sim in the 1+5, but it will just sit on T-Mobile. The 1+5 doesn't have cdma capability. I retired my 6p last week when my 1+5 arrived and switched my service to T-Mobile. I know the service is more expensive than what I was paying with Fi, but I'm seeing better coverage and speed. Fi always wanted to keep me on Sprint. Another plus, the T-Mobile Digits service is like being back on Google Voice. As far as the phone, I'm loving the 1+5 compared to the N64.
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I too had the Nexus 6p running on Project Fi but switched carriers a couple of months ago so I could use a non Nexus/Pixel phone like the 1+5 which I was planning on getting since my 6p was already feeling sluggish on day to day use. I too thought that Project Fi's prices were unbeatable since I also normally use less than a Gigabyte of data a month but some months I would go over the limit and pay around $35. I actually found another MVNO that uses T-Mobile's service and is actually cheaper, with 2 Gigabytes of data monthly I'm currently paying less than $20 dollars a month for it.
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I use mint sim as well. T mobile mvno 10GB of data and unlimited talk and text for ~30 bucks a month depending on how long you up for. It's even less should you choose 2gigs.. Service has been amazing everywhere except my house. Never had such good signal anywhere else.
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Project Fi does not work straight out of the box. There may be some nifty work-around that I'm not aware of, so your results may vary.
Signed up for Project Fi (telling their system I had my own compatible device)
SIM arrives few days later
Install Project Fi app from Playstore. It's there and let's you install it.
BUT this is where the problem is...
Insert Fi SIM into Oneplus 5 and open Project Fi app to activate, per instructions (no way to activate on PC)
Getting continuous loop telling me my Google account yet associated with Project Fi and cannot proceed. (when it is. that's how I was able to get the SIM in the first place)
Clicking the button to "sign up" just cycles back to the error screen.
Google support chat tells me there is no way to manually activate the SIM and assign a phone number... Bummer
kevindena said:
Project Fi does not work straight out of the box. There may be some nifty work-around that I'm not aware of, so your results may vary.
Signed up for Project Fi (telling their system I had my own compatible device)
SIM arrives few days later
Install Project Fi app from Playstore. It's there and let's you install it.
BUT this is where the problem is...
Insert Fi SIM into Oneplus 5 and open Project Fi app to activate, per instructions (no way to activate on PC)
Getting continuous loop telling me my Google account yet associated with Project Fi and cannot proceed. (when it is. that's how I was able to get the SIM in the first place)
Clicking the button to "sign up" just cycles back to the error screen.
Google support chat tells me there is no way to manually activate the SIM and assign a phone number... Bummer
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In order for Project Fi to work in a non Fi compatible phone first you have to activate Project Fi using a Project Fi compatible phone. Once you have done that you can move the Fi sim card to any other T-Mo compatible phone and it should work. Back when I had Project Fi on my Nexus 6p I successfully used the service on Moto G3 and Honor 5x, albeit without the features that I mentioned in my previous post.
uHW4ke said:
Hello everyone! I'm going to cut right to the chase. I currently have a Nexus 6p. It's a great phone and functions fine however it may be time to upgrade to the 835 snapdragon as I perform more complex tasks with my phone. I am using Project Fi as my current cellphone provider because it is a great deal:
$20 a month for cell service and $10 for 1 gb of data = $30... and if you don't use it refunds you the unused amount so I pay roughly $24 a month for service, You can't beat it.
I want to keep Project Fi as my provider but I need to trick the ONEPLUS 5 into thinking it is a Google Pixel. I have thought of 2 solutions to this problem:
1: Is there anyway I can flash a Google Pixel rom or PureNexus to the OnePlus 5? (I feel this is unlikely but want to see if it's possible)
2: Edit init.sh file on the phone to trick the phone into thinking it is a Google Pixel.
Any assistance and solution to my Problem will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Thats not a great deal mate?
I pay about £28 and get unlimited calls, texts and 10GB of double speed 4G ?
Might be different in the states.
dladz said:
Thats not a great deal mate?
I pay about £28 and get unlimited calls, texts and 10GB of double speed 4G ?
Might be different in the states.
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Because you aren't in the US... We think the price you pay for fuel is an awful deal as well, but you can't compare two completely different countries with vastly different economies.
You also can't compare pounds and dollars - the exchange rates just screw everything up. I live in Australia where it's roughly $2AUD to the pound. You're telling me to pay $56/month when I can get a plan that is basically the same for $250AUD a year (Kogan plan - 10gb data/month and unlimited calls/txts) - the catch is you pay upfront for the year....
Depending on were you are, Ting is a great option if you don't have your heart set on Project Fi. There GSM network works fine with the 1+5 and would actually be either cheaper or around the same price. my current bill changes month to month(because the charge at the end of the month for how much you use) but mine comes out to either 15$ or 23$.
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Because you aren't in the US... We think the price you pay for fuel is an awful deal as well, but you can't compare two completely different countries with vastly different economies.
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whoa wasn't having a go, easy tiger.
Petrols one thing, but I'd have thought carriers were a little closer when it comes to deals and what providers offer.
PS: (Slight dig) I won't go into why i think you have cheaper fuels
Project Fi does sound interesting, but I don't think the deals are there yet unfortunately, however if the US carriers are offering less for more money then yea go for it man, sounds like a winner.
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whoa wasn't having a go, easy tiger.
Petrols one thing, but I'd have thought carriers were a little closer when it comes to deals and what providers offer.
PS: (Slight dig) I won't go into why i think you have cheaper fuels
Project Fi does sound interesting, but I don't think the deals are there yet unfortunately, however if the US carriers are offering less for more money then yea go for it man, sounds like a winner.
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Fi isn't really a deal though, it's extremely expensive. Don't judge what we pay for data on that. All carriers offer unlimited data ranging from $60 to $80 a month.
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uHW4ke said:
Hello everyone! I'm going to cut right to the chase. I currently have a Nexus 6p. It's a great phone and functions fine however it may be time to upgrade to the 835 snapdragon as I perform more complex tasks with my phone. I am using Project Fi as my current cellphone provider because it is a great deal:
$20 a month for cell service and $10 for 1 gb of data = $30... and if you don't use it refunds you the unused amount so I pay roughly $24 a month for service, You can't beat it.
I want to keep Project Fi as my provider but I need to trick the ONEPLUS 5 into thinking it is a Google Pixel. I have thought of 2 solutions to this problem:
1: Is there anyway I can flash a Google Pixel rom or PureNexus to the OnePlus 5? (I feel this is unlikely but want to see if it's possible)
2: Edit init.sh file on the phone to trick the phone into thinking it is a Google Pixel.
Any assistance and solution to my Problem will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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No you don't need to do anything crazy to make it work on any GSM based device that's capable of receiving T-Mobile service. I'm currently using a OnePlus 5T on project fi after using the Nexus 6P which is the device I started my service with about 2 years ago. As long as you have already activated your service using one of the required phones which are supported by Google then you're good to go. You can even install the project fi app on any other Android device and it will tell you that this device is not supported for calls and text, however that isn't exactly true. Whichever device has your main Sim in it will be able to get calls and texts through the stock Android apps just fine.
A lot of people tell you that you have to use a Hangouts app in order to get SMS messages on unsupported devices but it's not true you can get calls and texts through the stock Android apps even with custom roms you just have to make sure that you go into the Hangouts app and you disable SMS messages for the account that's tied to your project fi service otherwise you'll only get your SMS messages through the Hangouts app. If you have Hangouts dialer installed then you have to make sure you also disable the option for incoming calls which can be found in the same section as the SMS option in the Hangouts settings for the email address that's used on your project fi account. Once you do that you'll be able to get calls and texts on the phone with the main sim card installed like you would in a device that's officially supported.
I should also mention that there are benefits to using the Hangouts app though. For instance let's say you have more than one device and you decide to order a couple data-only Sims, f you use the Hangouts app and you allow it to receive incoming calls and text messages for the email address tied your project fi account then what will happen is you'll be able to get phone calls and texts on any device that you use no matter what it is whether it's a tablet or a cell phone or an iPhone, just make sure you install Hangouts on each of those devices. You'll essentially be able to use whatever device you want but any phone that's using a data-only Sim will be using data in order to make phone calls and text no matter where you are so you got to keep that in mind. If you choose not to use the Hangouts app then the data Sims will only give you data coverage on your devices and you won't be able to use them as if they were like your normal cell phone. But if you choose to disable to Hangouts option then the device that has your normal SIM card in it won't have to operate over the data Network in order to use your calls and texts. It will even work on an iPhone and you'll be able to use I messages as well you won't be restricted to Hangouts app in order to get calls and texts but you can only do that with your main Sim on an iPhone. A lot of what Ive read on line is not true with regards to using unsupported devices.
If you choose to bypass the whole Hangouts feature and you only have one device and you follow what I said above then the only disadvantage you'll end up experiencing is that you won't be able to transition between the networks that project fi works on so your coverage will be limited to areas where there's T-Mobile coverage. In my specific area T-Mobile coverage is awesome and I've seen speeds of like 80 Mbps over lte.
Oh I should also add that if you happen to have any other Android devices with Hangouts installed you have to make sure that you disable SMS messages for your project fi account on all of your devices otherwise you'll still only get your SMS messages through Hangouts so if you're not getting your messages just make sure you check your other devices you sign out of there and then you're good to go.
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Fi isn't really a deal though, it's extremely expensive. Don't judge what we pay for data on that. All carriers offer unlimited data ranging from $60 to $80 a month.
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I don't know what you're talking about what project fi is awesome and they only charge $10 per gigabyte used of data up to 6 GB and then after that you'll have unlimited data access without being charged anymore so the max you will ever pay per month is $80 and that's only if you use 6gb of data. You'll also receive normal LTE coverage up to 15 GB in a month after which time your speed will be throttled but they offer an option two then continue paying$10 per gigabyte for normal LTE speeds should you need them I pay on average about $30 a month for cell phone coverage and I've had this for about 2 years now I was with T-Mobile for 12 years and they were an awesome carrier but you can't project fi. And then they also offer data only Sims up 10 per line which can be used in any GSM based device whether it's a hotspot iPad or Android tablet or some other phone that you might have an any day too used on any of the 10 devices you might have is all counted as if it was coming off your regular phone so you don't have to pay any crazy extra amount of money to have tethering. In terms of their pricing structure and what they offer there is not a cell phone company in the United States that has a better rate then project fi and then when you take into account the fact that even if you don't use one of their supported phones you'll essentially beginning T-Mobile service which has the best overall speeds of any other dating network in the country I mean it's a no-brainer here.
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No you don't need to do anything crazy to make it work on the OnePlus 5T I'm currently using one coming over from the Nexus 6p myself as long as you have already activated your service using one of the required phones which are supported by Google and you're good to go all you do is take out your sim card from the Nexus 6p and put it in the OnePlus 5T the only difference is that it will operate exclusively on T-Mobile's Network.
A lot of people tell you that you have to use a Hangouts app as well and it's not true you can get calls and texts through the stock Android apps even with custom roms you just have to make sure that you go into the Hangouts app and you disable SMS messages for the account that's tied to your project fi service otherwise you'll only get your SMS messages through the Hangouts app. If you have Hangouts dialer installed then you have to make sure you also disable the option for incoming calls which can be found in the same section as the SMS option in the Hangouts settings for the email address that's used on your project fi account. Once you do that you'll be able to get calls and texts on the phone with the main sim card installed like you would in a device that's officially supported.
I I should also mention know that there are benefits to using the Hangouts though. For instance let's say you have more than one device and you decide to order a couple data-only Sims using those devices in order to get data coverage wherever you go if you use the Hangouts app and you allow it to receive incoming calls and text messages for the email address tied your project fi account then what will happen is you'll be able to get phone calls and texts on any device that you use no matter what it is it whether it's a tablet or a cell phone or an iPhone. You'll essentially be able to use whatever device you want but any phone that's using a data-only Sim will be using data in order to make phone calls and text no matter where you are so you got to keep that in mind. If you choose not to use the Hangouts app then the data Sims will only give you data coverage on your devices and you won't be able to use them as if they were like your normal cell phone. But if you choose to disable to Hangouts option then the device that has your normal SIM card in it won't have to operate over the data Network in order to use your calls and texts. A lot of what Ive read on line is not true with regards to using unsupported devices.
If you choose to bypass the whole Hangouts feature and you only have one device and you follow what I said above then the only disadvantage you'll end up experiencing is that you won't be able to transition between the networks that project fi works on so your coverage will be limited to areas where there's T-Mobile coverage. In my specific area T-Mobile coverage is awesome and I've seen speeds of like 80 Mbps over lte.
Oh I should also add that if you happen to have any other Android devices with Hangouts installed you have to make sure that you disable SMS messages for your project fi account on all of your devices otherwise you'll still only get your SMS messages through Hangouts so if you're not getting your messages just make sure you check your other devices you sign out of there and then you're good to go.
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I don't know what you're talking about what project fi is awesome and they only charge $10 per gigabyte used of data up to 6 GB and then after that you'll have unlimited data access without being charged anymore so the max you will ever pay per month is $80 and that's only if you use 6gb of data. You'll also receive normal LTE coverage up to 15 GB in a month after which time your speed will be throttled but they offer an option two then continue paying$10 per gigabyte for normal LTE speeds should you need them I pay on average about $30 a month for cell phone coverage and I've had this for about 2 years now I was with T-Mobile for 12 years and they were an awesome carrier but you can't project fi. And then they also offer data only Sims up 10 per line which can be used in any GSM based device whether it's a hotspot iPad or Android tablet or some other phone that you might have an any day too used on any of the 10 devices you might have is all counted as if it was coming off your regular phone so you don't have to pay any crazy extra amount of money to have tethering. In terms of their pricing structure and what they offer there is not a cell phone company in the United States that has a better rate then project fi and then when you take into account the fact that even if you don't use one of their supported phones you'll essentially beginning T-Mobile service which has the best overall speeds of any other dating network in the country I mean it's a no-brainer here.
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Dude... You quoted posts almost a year old, Fi didn't have unlimited data option then.
geoff5093 said:
Dude... You quoted posts almost a year old, Fi didn't have unlimited data option then.
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Well it does now, so anyone interested in going this route who sees your post will then have the correct info. I apologize If i seemed rude, that wasn't my intention. At the time you posted that you were absolutely correct in terms of their data pricing options.
uHW4ke said:
$20 a month for cell service and $10 for 1 gb of data = $30... and if you don't use it refunds you the unused amount so I pay roughly $24 a month for service, You can't beat it.
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I pay 4,84 euro/month, for 4G cell service & 20gb data.
dladz said:
Thats not a great deal mate?
I pay about £28 and get unlimited calls, texts and 10GB of double speed 4G ?
Might be different in the states.
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Even that's not cheap, I pay around $8 and get 86 Days of unlimited calls, and 1 GB 4G data each day!
Uzumaki said:
Even that's not cheap, I pay around $8 and get 86 Days of unlimited calls, and 1 GB 4G data each day!
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Actually mines just been upgraded, I now get 20GB for the same price.
Also bare in mind that the speed and coverage I get is second to none.
My max ever 4G down speed is over 240Mb
With an average of over 100Mb
Plus the customer service is the best there is, trust me I've tried them all.
Do you get anything close to that? Hows the customer service with your provider?
In France you can have everything unlimited for 1€/month ... ^^