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I saw on the news that the AT&T Tilt is released today.
I went to the AT&T website, and sure enough, there it is:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...etails/?device=AT&T+Tilt(TM)&q_sku=sku1060009
Price: $299.
Man, I can't believe this! I had no idea a new model was coming so soon, I literally purchased my 8525 3 days ago!! Of course, the sales guy didn't bother to tell me a new model was coming with WM6 and more storage room, even though from what I told him, that would obviously be something of great importance to me. Of course, now I've got a custom WM6 ROM on it, wonder if there's any chance I could exchange it if I flash it back to the original?
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Of course, now I've got a custom WM6 ROM on it, wonder if there's any chance I could exchange it if I flash it back to the original?
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Hehehe, What are they going to do? Tell you "No"? Try it. Actually, if you bought it from a corporate store, I'd go back and kick your salesweasel's ass for selling it to you knowing that the Tilt is around the corner.
Also, I find it funny that on the website, the 8525 is still $50 higher than the tilt. Not exactly the best way to clear out of old stock
Yeah, they did say I can exchange the phone for 30 days, so I am going to give it a try. Already have it flashed back and ready to go. The sales rep I talked to on the phone doesn't seem to have much of a clue, he said the Tilt wasn't the actual 8525 replacement, another model called the "Pilgrim" was supposed to be the upgrade and the Tilt he said was slower which is why it was priced lower. I checked the specs, and it's the same speed CPU so not sure what he was talking about, and it has double the memory as well! No idea what the Pilgrim is, I would guess that is just the internal AT&T code for the Tilt/Kaiser.
I don't get it... how come the 8525 is more expensive than the Tilt?
Also, is the AT&T branded model available with any other contract or perhaps without one?
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Man, I can't believe this! I had no idea a new model was coming so soon, I literally purchased my 8525 3 days ago!! Of course, the sales guy didn't bother to tell me a new model was coming with WM6 and more storage room, even though from what I told him, that would obviously be something of great importance to me. Of course, now I've got a custom WM6 ROM on it, wonder if there's any chance I could exchange it if I flash it back to the original?
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Yes definately.. restore it using the image on the cd that came with it. They have a 30 day return/exchange policy. Go back in there and give your salesman hell for not telling you about the newest one to come out..
Yeah, no problems at all exchanging it for the Tilt! What a nice device this is, I love the black (not so much the silver keys though). Boy AT&T really went nuts with the bloatware though, with the extra memory this device gave them they just loaded all kinds of junk on it. Twice as much base memory, but comes with only about 90 Meg free. Ridiculous. Can't wait until we get some nice cooked ROMs for it! I'd load on the HTC ROM but looks like we still need a fix for the keyboard (probably won't take long!)
As for giving the sales guy a hard time, well, they seem to be as confused by the price as we are. He is still convinced there must be *some* reason they are pricing it below the 8525.
I just bought one too. got $375 while not eligible for upgrade, but did renew contract with AT&T. I had just bought a new 8525 from E-Bay but I think I'll E-Bay it back
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Yeah, no problems at all exchanging it for the Tilt! What a nice device this is, I love the black (not so much the silver keys though). Boy AT&T really went nuts with the bloatware though, with the extra memory this device gave them they just loaded all kinds of junk on it. Twice as much base memory, but comes with only about 90 Meg free. Ridiculous. Can't wait until we get some nice cooked ROMs for it! I'd load on the HTC ROM but looks like we still need a fix for the keyboard (probably won't take long!)
As for giving the sales guy a hard time, well, they seem to be as confused by the price as we are. He is still convinced there must be *some* reason they are pricing it below the 8525.
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Basically, this is the direct replacement. The Blackberry 8820 and 8310 will directly replace their predecessors at the same price point also. My understanding is that not all stores were going to get Tilts immediately, while waiting for the 8525 stock to be depleted
But as far as the device being any slower or lacking over the 8525, the rep you talked to was clueless (or just trying to make sure the 8525s move). The 8525 was nearly perfect. The Tilt is just going to be nearer to nearly perfect, in my opinion.
It has dual processors, so it is actually much faster than the 8525.
The reason it's less expensive is because when AT&T gets new equipment they actually try to push that more rather than worry about clearing old stock.
So I totally dropped my phone and shattered my screen today. The phone worked for about an hour then it died. I charged it and when I turned it back on and tried to use it, the screen totally got screwed up and I couldnt do anything.
Its pretty bogus that TMO wants me to pay them another $130 for a replacement phone and if I dont return the broken phone within 15 days, they will charge me another $300.
My GF doesnt really like hers. The APPs are way too expensive. I think she might be going back to her G1. Im seriously thinking about a Nexus One, but would have to dish out another $279 for that phone.
Im torn, i like the phone but Ive had so many issues with service, dropped calls and things not working like they should.
what are your thoughts? Ill try and take a pic of the screen with my GFs cam at some point.
Thanks for listening.
Jason
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So I totally dropped my phone and shattered my screen today. The phone worked for about an hour then it died. I charged it and when I turned it back on and tried to use it, the screen totally got screwed up and I couldnt do anything.
Its pretty bogus that TMO wants me to pay them another $130 for a replacement phone and if I dont return the broken phone within 15 days, they will charge me another $300.
My GF doesnt really like hers. The APPs are way too expensive. I think she might be going back to her G1. Im seriously thinking about a Nexus One, but would have to dish out another $279 for that phone.
Im torn, i like the phone but Ive had so many issues with service, dropped calls and things not working like they should.
what are your thoughts? Ill try and take a pic of the screen with my GFs cam at some point.
Thanks for listening.
Jason
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Wow, sorry to hear that man Did you manage to shatter it even with the rubberized case that came with it still on? I have mine on there at all times, but I'm still terrfied I'm gonna do exactly what you did.
If I were in your exact situation right now, I'd take your gf's HD2, and get her a mytouch slide. You get another chance with what can truly be an awesome phone, and she gets the latest android phone tmo has (or will have very soon) with a hardware qwerty....and, maybe even less out of pocket than the other options.
Sorry to hear that...That's exactly what I'm afraid also. Just texted the wife telling her to take care of that beauty cause one drop and it's gone
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Wow, sorry to hear that man Did you manage to shatter it even with the rubberized case that came with it still on? I have mine on there at all times, but I'm still terrfied I'm gonna do exactly what you did.
If I were in your exact situation right now, I'd take your gf's HD2, and get her a mytouch slide. You get another chance with what can truly be an awesome phone, and she gets the latest android phone tmo has (or will have very soon) with a hardware qwerty....and, maybe even less out of pocket than the other options.
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How can the HD2 be a powerful phone with all the problems it has? Ive had it replaced already because of the shotty service I was getting in places I had great service with my G1. Even with the flashing of several different ROMs, the phone froze all the time. The only problem with getting her one of the MyTouch Slides is that we used our upgrade eligibility to get the HD2's, so we would have to pay FULL price for the phone. She does really miss the Android market.
Yes, had the rubber case on it, but it landed on the corner of the screen. The rubber case doesnt go over the screen.
So whats the deal with TMO getting the crap end of the stick with phones these days?
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How can the HD2 be a powerful phone with all the problems it has? Ive had it replaced already because of the shotty service I was getting in places I had great service with my G1. Even with the flashing of several different ROMs, the phone froze all the time. The only problem with getting her one of the MyTouch Slides is that we used our upgrade eligibility to get the HD2's, so we would have to pay FULL price for the phone. She does really miss the Android market.
Yes, had the rubber case on it, but it landed on the corner of the screen. The rubber case doesnt go over the screen.
So whats the deal with TMO getting the crap end of the stick with phones these days?
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Well, it has been for me and others as well...since you were asking, I thought you were saying you thought it might be worth another chance. Did you get a chance to try the new upgrade from Tmo?
I was confused too, when you said you'd have to pay $279 for the N1...I thought that indicated you had an upgrade available to you yet.
And yes, I did notice that the rubber case doesn't go over the screen. I was asking because without that it's possible to have the screen shatter even if the impact point isn't on the face of it.
I just havent had the best luck with this phone. Seems like it has lots of potential but its not fairing very well so far. The $279 was a price I pulled from the site. I dobubt TMO would take their phone back and give me some kind of credit on a different phone even with the phone insurance. Hell TMO doesnt even sell the N1.
What new upgrade are you referring too? Was it an upgrade to the stock rom? Ive been using a flashed ROM, so didnt see that there was an upgrade available.
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I just havent had the best luck with this phone. Seems like it has lots of potential but its not fairing very well so far. The $279 was a price I pulled from the site. I dobubt TMO would take their phone back and give me some kind of credit on a different phone even with the phone insurance. Hell TMO doesnt even sell the N1.
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That's correct, you have to just take the replacement phone of the same model, since it's done through the insurance company totally independent of tmo...they're just the ones who sold you the policy. I honestly was under the impression that the deductible was $100 for the HD2, but if they told you $130 then it must be $130.
I think that the $279 price for the N1 is for new lines and maybe upgrades, but it's honestly been a while since I priced it out.
If you end up deciding to get your HD2 replaced for now, feel free to PM me if you want and I'll do whatever I can to help you avoid having so many issues this time.
What new upgrade are you referring too? Was it an upgrade to the stock rom? Ive been using a flashed ROM, so didnt see that there was an upgrade available.
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LOL That's funny because just 5 minutes before I saw your post I was having a conversation with one of the moderators about how there had been a rediculous number of new threads started in the past 48 hours about the new Tmo ROM update
It was pretty much known that it was coming soon, and a couple of days ago somebody found a backdoor to the file on tmo's servers, before they had announced it. A bunch of people (m'self included) grabbed it right away, but it now looks like tmo has pulled the old switcheroo and substitued some oddball incompatible ROM in it's place for the time being (from the Dash, or something equally goofy). Hopefully they'll greenlight it officially soon...this exact thing happend with the tmo TP2 upgrade earlier this year too. I'll be happy to get you a copy, if you have an easy way to transfer a 200MB file You can check out the threads here in the general section about it, there's a lot of reports of what's different, etc.
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That's correct, you have to just take the replacement phone of the same model, since it's done through the insurance company totally independent of tmo...they're just the ones who sold you the policy. I honestly was under the impression that the deductible was $100 for the HD2, but if they told you $130 then it must be $130.
I think that the $279 price for the N1 is for new lines and maybe upgrades, but it's honestly been a while since I priced it out.
If you end up deciding to get your HD2 replaced for now, feel free to PM me if you want and I'll do whatever I can to help you avoid having so many issues this time.
LOL That's funny because just 5 minutes before I saw your post I was having a conversation with one of the moderators about how there had been a rediculous number of new threads started in the past 48 hours about the new Tmo ROM update
It was pretty much known that it was coming soon, and a couple of days ago somebody found a backdoor to the file on tmo's servers, before they had announced it. A bunch of people (m'self included) grabbed it right away, but it now looks like tmo has pulled the old switcheroo and substitued some oddball incompatible ROM in it's place for the time being (from the Dash, or something equally goofy). Hopefully they'll greenlight it officially soon...this exact thing happend with the tmo TP2 upgrade earlier this year too. I'll be happy to get you a copy, if you have an easy way to transfer a 200MB file You can check out the threads here in the general section about it, there's a lot of reports of what's different, etc.
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That does kind of suck that I cant get a different phone. Oh well. I may still purchase the replacement phone. The N1 price was for eligible upgrades.
Thanks for the offering of help. I read one of the threads saying it was a Dash file now. Damn TMO. I only read the one thread. Didnt seem like much was different. Have you tried 4shared dot com to upload the ROM too? So since its not "official" than it has to be flashed? But if it were official then it would get sent to the phone from TMO?
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That does kind of suck that I cant get a different phone. Oh well. I may still purchase the replacement phone. The N1 price was for eligible upgrades.
Thanks for the offering of help. I read one of the threads saying it was a Dash file now. Damn TMO. I only read the one thread. Didnt seem like much was different. Have you tried 4shared dot com to upload the ROM too? So since its not "official" than it has to be flashed? But if it were official then it would get sent to the phone from TMO?
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Actually, our handy-dandy moderator zelendel has created a link where you can grab it if you want to check it out: Tmo HD2 ROM upgrade
Now, one of the underlying differences between WM and Android is that any updates to WM must be applied manually, even official ones. They come in the form of a full ROM upgrade, not in "patches"...and they're never OTA or direct to the phone. Official carrier or manufacturer issued ROM updates are applied by you running a .exe file on your PC desktop that handles all the flashing for you, over USB. Custom ROMs of course have a more involved/complicated process.
This upgrade at that link has the usual "offical update" installer....but Tmo has obviously decided to hold off on letting us have sanctioned access to it just yet. But, the one they finally release will likely be very close to this one we're playing with now.
Thanks for the link and the information. After using the G1 phone for week, I quickly remembered why I didnt want that phone anymore. So last thursday, I ended up ordering a phone from the "insurance". The phone came today. My GF says, they sent me an complete phone package, with case, battery, ear piece, manual and alls I got to do is send back the phone.
I wonder if the phone comes with the update on it already!
I probably wont be able to play with it until tonight, more than likely tomorrow though. Im swamped at work and will more than likely work late tonight.
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Actually, our handy-dandy moderator zelendel has created a link where you can grab it if you want to check it out: Tmo HD2 ROM upgrade
Now, one of the underlying differences between WM and Android is that any updates to WM must be applied manually, even official ones. They come in the form of a full ROM upgrade, not in "patches"...and they're never OTA or direct to the phone. Official carrier or manufacturer issued ROM updates are applied by you running a .exe file on your PC desktop that handles all the flashing for you, over USB. Custom ROMs of course have a more involved/complicated process.
This upgrade at that link has the usual "offical update" installer....but Tmo has obviously decided to hold off on letting us have sanctioned access to it just yet. But, the one they finally release will likely be very close to this one we're playing with now.
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I snagged the update on the first go around the leaked version and let me tell you it has worked wonders!!!! it has been about two weeks and I have not had the Sleep Screen of Death or any of my other issues! I read about complaints when people downloaded the official one on the 18th but it looks likes they pulled that one because they where having more issues than it fixed?!
So is the moderator link the "official" download, or the leaked version?
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So is the moderator link the "official" download, or the leaked version?
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It the same one I pulled from the T-mobile site before it was removed.
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It the same one I pulled from the T-mobile site before it was removed.
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Cool, so its not the broken latest version...woohoo!
It's the same one. There is no difference between the one that was leaked and the one that was removed from T-mobiles website this weekend.
so why am I hearing/reading conflicting reports, some say its great, others say more stuff is broken.
Because not everyone uses their phone in the same way or with the same expectations. I upgraded this past weekend and haven't had any problems but I also haven't opened up every app and setting to look for everything that has changed. YMMV
So many people talking about getting a new Evo 4G from other places, and having them already updated to 2.3.
You are NOT out of luck!! Thought I'd post this for an FYI.
Best Buy seems to be your best shot at a new Evo 4G still on 2.2 Stock. I've gone through 4 now from them (had hardware issues on 2) and all have come out of the box with 2.2.
I asked the CSM helping me to not do anything to the phones...I'd prefer to power em on. Got home, cancelled update...Stock 2.2 ready for Root / Flashin.
If you're in the market for a new Evo 4G...check Best Buy first. With a little polite direction, you should have the same experience.
The Tulsa OK store I frequent had at least 20 or so left in stock...
Bandage said:
So many people talking about getting a new Evo 4G from other places, and having them already updated to 2.3.
You are NOT out of luck!! Thought I'd post this for an FYI.
Best Buy seems to be your best shot at a new Evo 4G still on 2.2 Stock. I've gone through 4 now from them (had hardware issues on 2) and all have come out of the box with 2.2.
I asked the CSM helping me to not do anything to the phones...I'd prefer to power em on. Got home, cancelled update...Stock 2.2 ready for Root / Flashin.
If you're in the market for a new Evo 4G...check Best Buy first. With a little polite direction, you should have the same experience.
The Tulsa OK store I frequent had at least 20 or so left in stock...
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I just bought one from my local best buy and it was 2.3.3 out of box. It was the last one the store will have also. You are very lucky
Wish I could take mine up there, but I just got one from Sprint this week that they sent me to replace my Epic. Ah well I guess I will have to wait like everyone else for root.
I work for Best Buy and can honestly if anyone gets a 2.2 in DFW, consider yourself lucky. My refurb through the Black Tie Protection came with 2.3.3.
I can say however that my battery is absolutely amazing.
A friend of mine has bought two from bestbuy. First one returned due to software issue and the newest going back to extreme light bleed. Both on 3.70 software. You can get lucky at some bestbuys. I think the more rural ones may have left over stock that has been sitting for a while. Two in a row that are not updated are pretty good odds.
I got an Evo 4G a week ago from BB, brand new out of the box. Had 2.3.3 already installed. I had been thinking of going back and trying to find one with 2.2 and claiming hardware/software issues on one until I find one. This gives me hope.
Do I have to have purchased my evo at best buy to take my evo there for a replacement?
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I got an Evo 4G a week ago from BB, brand new out of the box. Had 2.3.3 already installed. I had been thinking of going back and trying to find one with 2.2 and claiming hardware/software issues on one until I find one. This gives me hope.
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Do I have to have purchased my evo at best buy to take my evo there for a replacement?
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I got 2 Evos at the start of this month, and I didnt know about the 2.3.3 thing so in short both of them, one white and one black were 2.2 and me being a geek updated without researching.
Last friday had to go back with mine because of a small hairline crack the body had around the volume down and of course they said besides that the phone is working and I was ready to fight, but before I even started talking he said, "but you still on your 30 days exchange so if you want to just change it, i can do that" and so I did and this also was 2.2, I said "just activate it, I don't want to update it, cuz mine ran sluggier than my wifes and thats the only difference, she didnt get the update and i did" He was like, ok that makes sense. check it and see if that was your problem...
On my local store they didn't seem to have a shortage or anything, I saw him pulling it out of a nice stock of EVO's.
Same here in NY. My buddy and I got Evos in a local BB Mobile and they both had 2.2 on it. The Rep who was taking care of me almost updated the phones until the manager and I both told her not too. The manager is a personal friend of mine whom I do rooting of devices for. ;-)
I got my Evo about a month ago with 2.2 installed. At the time I was totally unaware that updating would lock me out. Good thing I didn't
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I work for Best Buy and can honestly if anyone gets a 2.2 in DFW, consider yourself lucky. My refurb through the Black Tie Protection came with 2.3.3.
I can say however that my battery is absolutely amazing.
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I bought mine at the Best Buy in Rockwall, which is a DFW store. They had about 30 with 2.2 and 30 with 2.3 and they gave a wide open choice on it 2 weeks ago.
So I go to my nearest local at&t store and when I ask for it they said I think we have it on display, but not in stock. Maybe will get stock later from delivery. I go to my next nearest store, and they have it on display as well. I ask him to get me one and he says they have none in the back. I have a definite contact that would hold one for me at his store but its an hour from me but I was about to take the road trip. As I left the 2nd at&t store, I get in my car and the 2nd at&t store rep calls me on my phone and says I found some in the back they were in my managers office. I go back and purchase it off contract. I dare ask for any available cases, he goes to the back again and says they cant find none but one pink one. I said no thanks, no offense to pink cases.
So with that being said, who's fault is this? I actually think it's LG's fault for not pushing for a bigger launch. They dont seem worried, oh well I got one and I'm liking it. Gonna root it and debloat this poor bloated G2. I just hope the battery life is better than my sgs4, I'm using whatever charge it came with today. It sort of reminds me of my nexus 4, the double tap to turn on/off is a stock feature I thought I would never see.
Anyone else with a similar experience? Maybe companies should not launch on Friday the 13th??
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So I go to my nearest local at&t store and when I ask for it they said I think we have it on display, but not in stock. Maybe will get stock later from delivery. I go to my next nearest store, and they have it on display as well. I ask him to get me one and he says they have none in the back. I have a definite contact that would hold one for me at his store but its an hour from me but I was about to take the road trip. As I left the 2nd at&t store, I get in my car and the 2nd at&t store rep calls me on my phone and says I found some in the back they were in my managers office. I go back and purchase it off contract. I dare ask for any available cases, he goes to the back again and says they cant find none but one pink one. I said no thanks, no offense to pink cases.
So with that being said, who's fault is this? I actually think it's LG's fault for not pushing for a bigger launch. They dont seem worried, oh well I got one and I'm liking it. Gonna root it and debloat this poor bloated G2. I just hope the battery life is better than my sgs4, I'm using whatever charge it came with today. It sort of reminds me of my nexus 4, the double tap to turn on/off is a stock feature I thought I would never see.
Anyone else with a similar experience? Maybe companies should not launch on Friday the 13th??
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This is why I ordered on AT&T website. I placed the order 9/10 at 11pm and it was in my hands on 9/12. I hate dealing with local AT&T stores, at least in the DC/Metro area.
ordered the friday it came out on 9/6 was in my hands monday morning, have been in contact with the guys on IRC, hope we can get this thing cracked soon. =P
Same here. Premier order was even worse. I actually ended up getting one in store this morning. My premier order is still processing from the 11th. Will refuse it when it comes since I can't cancel according to them even though it hasn't shipped.
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Same here. Premier order was even worse. I actually ended up getting one in store this morning. My premier order is still processing from the 11th. Will refuse it when it comes since I can't cancel according to them even though it hasn't shipped.
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Bottom line is At&t employees are bunch of dummies. Kidding. Im sure people are quite smart going in but once theyve been in the cluster F ( that is At&t) they are screwed. At&t tells them what phones to push ( Iphones, S4's HTC's etc) and all the others are just fillers. Ive been into at&t stores before and educated the sales rep about the phones they have on display and in most cases they dont even care. This is your freggin job people!! Hello???!!! I ran into the same thing when I purchased the LG OGP - they were clueless and kept wanting me to take a look at the HTC One! Im sure its partly LG's fault but end of the day (IMO) its not just At&t employees that are clueless, Ive encountered the same thing at TMO and Verizon stores too. Never set foot in a Sprint store so I can comment on them.
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Bottom line is At&t employees are bunch of dummies. Kidding. Im sure people are quite smart going in but once theyve been in the cluster F ( that is At&t) they are screwed. At&t tells them what phones to push ( Iphones, S4's HTC's etc) and all the others are just fillers. Ive been into at&t stores before and educated the sales rep about the phones they have on display and in most cases they dont even care. This is your freggin job people!! Hello???!!! I ran into the same thing when I purchased the LG OGP - they were clueless and kept wanting me to take a look at the HTC One! Im sure its partly LG's fault but end of the day (IMO) its not just At&t employees that are clueless, Ive encountered the same thing at TMO and Verizon stores too. Never set foot in a Sprint store so I can comment on them.
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I've experienced the same thing from AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon. Almost none of the reps that I've spoken with are knowledgeable on phones. I went to a Verizon store wanting to purchase an HTC Droid DNA and was directed to a Note II. I advised him of the reason I was interested in the DNA. Not interested in the Note for the same reasons.
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Bottom line is At&t employees are bunch of dummies. Kidding. Im sure people are quite smart going in but once theyve been in the cluster F ( that is At&t) they are screwed. At&t tells them what phones to push ( Iphones, S4's HTC's etc) and all the others are just fillers. Ive been into at&t stores before and educated the sales rep about the phones they have on display and in most cases they dont even care. This is your freggin job people!! Hello???!!! I ran into the same thing when I purchased the LG OGP - they were clueless and kept wanting me to take a look at the HTC One! Im sure its partly LG's fault but end of the day (IMO) its not just At&t employees that are clueless, Ive encountered the same thing at TMO and Verizon stores too. Never set foot in a Sprint store so I can comment on them.
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Well I used to work for At&t and I can tell you that they do not really care which phones you buy (to an extent). They only really make money off of contracts. The problem is that they only educate workers on the more popular phones, so they tend to show you a Samsung so they don't look stupid since they know nothing about LG. The problem is that they are really pushing you to increase your MRC (Monthly Recurring Revenue). So they want things like Mobile Protection Pack and they encourage you to add a line or buy marked up accessories. It doesn't matter which phone you buy. They spend very little time teaching employees about a Snapdragon 800 and lots of time about the 5 key behaviors of sales. I just happen to be a hardcore phone enthusiast so would be able to talk with customers about every phone. So this is the real reason behind another terrible LG launch. Like the G Pro. At&t only cares about phones that will bring in more customers so they can increase sales, like iPhones. plus people who buy iPhones tend to buy more accessories and have multiple cases. And people like us tend to shop online and only buy store accessories when we're desperate and are waiting for our case from Amazon to arrive. So there you have it guys.
I agree.
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The LG G4 is one of the best phones I have owned. I truly appreciate it, however it has some nagging issues with carrier restrictions and as much as I hate to do it, my AT&T 810 G4 is going back. I am not happy about it, and may pick up an international (815) one soon, but I decided this one was going back.
Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
AT&T OTA pushes
Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
Whats Next?
Returning to my trusty HTC One M7 (For Now)
See what happens with the Nexus 5 2015
Might pickup an LG G4 815 International
Wait and see where developers go with unlocking the G4
WLMiller54 said:
The LG G4 is one of the best phones I have owned. I truly appreciate it, however it has some nagging issues with carrier restrictions and as much as I hate to do it, my AT&T 810 G4 is going back. I am not happy about it, and may pick up an international (815) one soon, but I decided this one was going back.
Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
AT&T OTA pushes
Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
Whats Next?
Returning to my trusty HTC One M7 (For Now)
See what happens with the Nexus 5 2015
Might pickup an LG G4 815 International
Wait and see where developers go with unlocking the G4
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Root and unlock will happen, the leather back I have feels high class (t-mo brown) you can freeze bloat with de-bloater tool (all mine is) I dont use the radio (too many apps to use it, plus some of them have local radio) ota-cant help that... I'll most likely get the Nexus 5 as. Well....while keeping this phone.....you did admit its a great phone!
OP has all fair points. Not mad.. but sorry to see you go.
Laters.
WLMiller54 said:
Why Send it back?
No Root, No Bootloader Unlock
AT&T Bloatware
AT&T Disabled FM Radio
AT&T OTA pushes
Leather back felt cheap, and I could not find a good case to fit it
Nexus 5 2015
This is a great phone, and I have nothing against functionality or performance.
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Looks like you need to buy a phone full price, no carrier BS.
Sorry to see you go, but I completely understand. I have seen things in this forum that US carriers do to that phone and I have no idea WTF they are thinking.
As for root, I have faith.:good:
Sadly, mine's going back as well. As much as I like the phone, there are currently too many things that annoy me. I'm with Verizon, so the missing apps started me out on the wrong foot. Then throw in LG and/or Verizon not honoring the $100 GB of Google Drive storage as promised, and the touchscreen issues. Finally, I got a notice from Verizon and my bill went up $23 instead of dropping a couple bucks which two Best Buy reps assured me it would. I spoke to a Best Buy manager, and they agreed to return the phone a month after I purchased it (as well as cancel the Edge plan).
All in all, it's a great phone but it's not significantly better than my trusty G3 (slightly better CPU, camera, battery etc...) enough to offset the additional expense. I have a bunch of accessories for the G4 that I'm holding onto, so I'll probably pick one up further down the road. I'd opt for the international version for obvious reasons. I assume that the unlocked version will work fine on a CDMA network with the proper set-up.
UPDATE: Nope... I guess I'm keeping it. After two Verizon reps assured me that I could cancel my Edge agreement, when the time came to do so the rep I got said in no uncertain terms that it wasn't going to happen. So even though Best Buy admitted that they screwed up and offered to return the phone AND twice Verizon said otherwise, I'm now told that I would have to buy out the remainder of the contract. I can't complain too much, since I got the $100 Best Buy gift card and Verizon kicked in a $145 bill credit for the mistake.
Unlocked International won't be a good idea..... As long as Verizon doesn't transition to full LTE and still uses CDMA till 2017, this won't work as voice won't go over GSM...
Actually holding back from the G4 because of those as well. Let's see what this year's Nexus have to offer and probably the OnePlus Two as well.
I did the same. Unless there is a viable unlock + root option no LG G4 for me!
SCPadgeebar said:
Actually holding back from the G4 because of those as well. Let's see what this year's Nexus have to offer and probably the OnePlus Two as well.
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I agree, I am watching Nexus 5 2015 and the OnePlus Two as well .... If I can get a OP2 invite.
fpsq said:
I did the same. Unless there is a viable unlock + root option no LG G4 for me!
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Yep, I am waiting to. I may head back to LG4 if there is an unlock and root option.
I can certainly respect your decision, even if I would not do the same thing. Sorry that you did not get as much out of your G4 as you were expecting that you would, I just hope you can find a phone that fits your needs and you can have more fun with.
BTW - That Nexus 5 2015 does sound pretty promising, if you pick one up be sure to let me know how it is.
im in the same boat, Att H810 have the least number of bands out of all G4 variants, so I can't get data even when I unlock the phone to use in Asia.
But I am already past my 14 days period so fml.
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UPDATE: Nope... I guess I'm keeping it. After two Verizon reps assured me that I could cancel my Edge agreement, when the time came to do so the rep I got said in no uncertain terms that it wasn't going to happen. So even though Best Buy admitted that they screwed up and offered to return the phone AND twice Verizon said otherwise, I'm now told that I would have to buy out the remainder of the contract. I can't complain too much, since I got the $100 Best Buy gift card and Verizon kicked in a $145 bill credit for the mistake.
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Call recorder. This is a must have app for everyone who interacts with any business at all. They're always going to record your call for 'quality assurance', which automatically gives you the right to record it as well (at least in California) without informing them. Always good for CYA situations like this.