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What's the best way to put ads in an app and which is the best service to use?
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Depends on the app, I use admob, pays like crap lol. But they are all owned by goggle so yea lol.
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Oh didn't realise admob was owned by Google
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Ok so what is the easiest way t put them in my app?
I am signed up to admob now but don't understand how i put them in my app.
You would be better off running your own ad server and selling advertising... there are way too many jackass developers here on xda who make mods and apps to kill ads. I respect some for their work... but I think it's BS that they screw other developers by killing ads.
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You would be better off running your own ad server and selling advertising... there are way too many jackass developers here on xda who make mods and apps to kill ads. I respect some for their work... but I think it's BS that they screw other developers by killing ads.
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agreed.. I have no issue with users manually modifying their host file or even providing a list you can update your host files with however all the roms including a host file that basically blocks any money generation for devs is a bit off the deep end.
As for the OP's question you need to follow the PDF guide in the admob site for how to install ads to your application. There is really no better way of explaining it over how they did in that file.
http://www.admob.com/docs/AdMob_Android_SDK_Instructions.pdf
I figured out how to do it by watchin a youtube video on it, just go to youtube and search "using admob android" or something like that, theres a bunch of different ones but the one I used was by some guy who say's he's from "fragger games in London"... he'll walk you through it, and then once you download the zip file on the admob site, you can copy and paste the code from the pdf file inside it
hey,
You should try some of the app store's developers platforms.... I think they are the best way to go about. Try GetJar, InMobi, etc.
Cheers
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You would be better off running your own ad server and selling advertising... there are way too many jackass developers here on xda who make mods and apps to kill ads. I respect some for their work... but I think it's BS that they screw other developers by killing ads.
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So I'm screwing developers by having an adblocker?
I wasn't going to tap on the ad anyway. The ads never have anything good in them, they always look like scams. Its like those kind of ads you see on porn sites that say "HOT GIRLS NEAR YOU!" or something like that, its all fake or seems fake.
I'd bet that almost every ad click is completely accidental.
I wish we could remove the ads altogether. All ads do for the user is make the experience poorer, taking away screen real estate and usually looking hideous.
I wasn't going to tap on the ad anyway. The ads never have anything good in them, they always look like scams. Its like those kind of ads you see on porn sites that say "HOT GIRLS NEAR YOU!" or something like that, its all fake or seems fake.
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How do you know that the porn ads that say "HOT GIRLS NEAR YOU!" are scams?
I use Admob too, have made like 60 cents so far lol. But my App isn't very popular (yet!) Once you get into the >250,000 category I think money starts rolling in.
So, guys..
I was going through some blogs, which stated that there are so many malicious apps in android market. Recently, Avast, which has launched an app in market, reported to google about some malicious apps.
Here is the article:-
https://blog.avast.com/2011/12/13/android-malware-in-the-open-marketplace/
So, what i was thinking is that do we really need an Antivirus app, to protect our android phone??
Using an antivirus app will mean that, it will consume RAM continuously, and so will consume battery too.
I am starting this thread, so that we can discuss, here ,if we really need it.
So, share your views, experiences with any malicious app in the market place, and also suggestions about which antivirus app should we use, if this kind of thing exists in android.
Of course you do, i use Lookout Mobile Security and it has caught a few trojans which were potenially harmful to my phone, not too many but it did quarantine a few since ive had it.
Basically anyone who doesn't have any type of protection on their dog and bone is taking a big chance.
The answer is NO.
I've posted an article from tech2.com in Indian thread where someone from Google said it while talking about Trozan AV apps.
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The answer is NO.
I've posted an article from tech2.com in Indian thread where someone from Google said it while talking about Trozan AV apps.
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Did u read the link i posted?
It really shows the possibility of some malicious apps, co-existing in Android Market. Don't we need to be protected?
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The answer is NO.
I've posted an article from tech2.com in Indian thread where someone from Google said it while talking about Trozan AV apps.
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Well if you ever get a trojan on your SGSII don't come crying on here, ever heard of better be safe than sorry!!
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Well if you ever get a trojan on your SGSII don't come crying on here, ever heard of better be safe than sorry!!
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Thats what i am trying here "Better be safe than sorry"
Well you should've created this thread without the 'Do' and '?'. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. You didn't like my post IGNORE it, don't quote me and advice me what I need to do. A '?' thread should only be created where everyone can share his/her opinion and then it's up to the Thread starter what he/she will take from all the answers.
Anyway, keep using what you are using.
@jonny68- Have you seen such a thread like that in this 8 + months?
This is what Chris Dibona, Google's Open Source Program Manager said,
Chris DiBona, Google's open-source programs manager stated in a blog post, “No major cell phone has a 'virus' problem in the traditional sense that Windows and some Mac machines have seen. Virus companies are playing on your fears to try to sell you bulls***protection software for Android.”
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Source:
http://tech2.in.com/news/android/go...-antivirus-apps-in-android-marketplace/260952
Sorry I had to BOLD the line for you guys, it's a shame to modify some other comments.
Another thing, if someone even said that Antiviruses are needed for Android I would never use it.
The story is exactly the opposite when I use my Desktop PC fyi.
Regards.
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Well you should've created this thread without the 'Do' and '?'. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. You didn't like my post IGNORE it, don't quote me and advice me what I need to do. A '?' thread should only be created where everyone can share his/her opinion and then it's up to the Thread starter what he/she will take from all the answers.
Anyway, keep using what you are using.
@jonny68- Have you seen such a thread like that in this 8 + months?
This is what Chris Dibona, Google's Open Source Program Manager said,
Source:
http://tech2.in.com/news/android/go...-antivirus-apps-in-android-marketplace/260952
Sorry I had to BOLD the line for you guys, it's a shame to modify some other comments.
Another thing, if someone even said that Antiviruses are needed for Android I would never use it.
The story is exactly the opposite when I use my Desktop PC fyi.
Regards.
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You forgot the rest of this story:
"Honestly, anti-virus software are not needed on mobiles, just as long as you don’t download random apps you should be just fine" ...
Most people in here download and install tons of apps, modifications and tweeaks on rooted phones ... LOL
Why not just instal a free one?
Better safe than sorry...
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ithehappy said:
Well you should've created this thread without the 'Do' and '?'. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. You didn't like my post IGNORE it, don't quote me and advice me what I need to do. A '?' thread should only be created where everyone can share his/her opinion and then it's up to the Thread starter what he/she will take from all the answers.
Anyway, keep using what you are using.
@jonny68- Have you seen such a thread like that in this 8 + months?
This is what Chris Dibona, Google's Open Source Program Manager said,
Source:
http://tech2.in.com/news/android/go...-antivirus-apps-in-android-marketplace/260952
Sorry I had to BOLD the line for you guys, it's a shame to modify some other comments.
Another thing, if someone even said that Antiviruses are needed for Android I would never use it.
The story is exactly the opposite when I use my Desktop PC fyi.
Regards.
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M sorry, if it hurted u.
Everyone has absolute right to express their views.Be it wrong or right.
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Well Google are hardly gonna freely admit the fact that there are some rogue apps in the Android Market which contain trojans as this will put off many people (not just talking anti-virus here), the simple facts are despite the nonsense by Chris DeBona or whoever is the fact that you are taking a calculated rick by not having some type of protection on your phone, this is even more so if you do happen to download apps from other sources but even in the Android Market you can never be totally sure, Lookout Mobile Security is totally and utterly 100% legit and used by many thousands of people and business' alike,clearly there are some rogue apps masquerading as anti-virus apps but also others too.
Smartphones are like pc's now. What you can do with your computer your smartphone does it for you on the go. You have so many apps you browse over the net even if you are using the wireless one from home say for example anything can come through..Say if you are downloading a rom or a leak you never know what might be in them...As the OP and Jonny said above.."always be safe than sorry" that is how i see things
http://androidship.com/2011/05/29/the-android-anti-virus-epidemic/
Read that.
If you plan on downloading apps without looking at who makes them or looking at any reviews, then yes, there's a chance you can get an app that causes issues.
And that applies for ALL os's. How many apple laptop/desktop users run an antivirus? Android is built on the same type of platform, unix.
That doesn't mean an 'antivirus' app will do anything special. It uninstalls apps the same way you do under manage applications.
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I all true sense you need to have read the permission that the applications needs when you install a app. If your are lazy enough to not do that have application like LBE security installed to monitor what each applications is up to ... i believe rather then a antivirus a good app fire wall is needed.
You probably don't need one, just as any power Windows user doesn't. That said you'd be crazy to not have one in Windows. Difference being a desktop has a tremendous amount of resources and allocating some to an antivirus program is no big deal. Not so on a phone. Plus there's the consideration of battery impact.
In a nutshell I'd say you'd be just fine without one.
I feel much the same way about antiviruses on Android as I do about hand-holding paid antivirus programs on Windows. If you know what you're doing, you don't need them at all. On the other hand, if you're going to download hundreds of dodgy applications at random and pay no attention to reviews/permissions/odd behaviour, then more fool you, get an antivirus app.
LBE privacy guard is a different story, since it performs a rather different function, and allows you to enjoy apps like Facebook without giving them access to the likes of text messages and phone ID.
You guys know Samsung have their own lightweight security suite in Samsung apps, yeah?
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ithehappy said:
Well you should've created this thread without the 'Do' and '?'. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion. You didn't like my post IGNORE it, don't quote me and advice me what I need to do. A '?' thread should only be created where everyone can share his/her opinion and then it's up to the Thread starter what he/she will take from all the answers.
Anyway, keep using what you are using.
@jonny68- Have you seen such a thread like that in this 8 + months?
This is what Chris Dibona, Google's Open Source Program Manager said,
Source:
http://tech2.in.com/news/android/go...-antivirus-apps-in-android-marketplace/260952
Sorry I had to BOLD the line for you guys, it's a shame to modify some other comments.
Another thing, if someone even said that Antiviruses are needed for Android I would never use it.
The story is exactly the opposite when I use my Desktop PC fyi.
Regards.
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I totally agree, like task killers and power managers, useless...
I hate the kind of pseudo-logic that is thrown around in these discussions, which paraphrase to look something like this...
LogicLord221 said:
<insert random bull**** about why their point is valid> there's a million million trojans out there and platform x is so insecure, I read this and this which says we're all in danger!
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Basically, the point people are trying to make is that danger lurks everywhere, and you need to protect yourself, or you'll be sorry later. Scare tactics at best.
While I am an advocate for protection by prevention, that doesn't automatically lead to the conclusion that you need antivirus software for your device! It's that kind of bull**** logic that annoys the **** out of me. To quote the Oxford English Dictionary:
"Prevention"
Pronunciation: /prɪˈvɛnʃn/
noun
[mass noun]
The action of stopping something from happening or arising.
Phrases:
Prevention is better than cure.
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Do you see the problem here? It doesn't say "The action of installing an antivirus", it says to stop something from happening. There are many ways to go about preventing infection of your device:
1) Check what you're downloading comes from either a) a reputable source, b) is backed by a reputable source, or c) is backed by numerous (>50-100) positive comments, reviews, etc. This means, don't download that app that has a bunch of one-star reviews, and has people screaming "TROJAN!" in the comments field.
2) Stick to the Market. While it's true that a lot of the infected content will indeed come from the Market itself, Google do a good job of removing offending apps, so compared to other sources of content (e.g. just downloading the APK from a server), it's a lot safer.
3) Don't pirate ****. This is probably the number-one source of malware on Android. Don't be a cheap dumbass.
4) Stay away from 'questionable' material. This includes, but isn't limited to:
- porn
- pirated content
- file sharing sites
5) Have some common sense! I can't stress this one enough, you can have the most advanced piece of software in the world, but if you're acting like a reckless child, you don't deserve to use the device, and you're bound to find yourself neck-deep in malware. Apart from the above, take some active steps to secure yourself. Change your browser settings to run Flash content on-demand instead of automatically, (if possible) set it to have you manually accept cookies, etc. Perhaps the best use of common sense would be in checking the permissions you allow an app access to when it's installed. Look, if an app that is designed to parse a line of text is requesting full internet access, access to SMS capabilities, etc., it'd be best to leave it alone, don't you think? Moreover, if something's requesting superuser permissions, it'd better have a damn good reason why. Read the permissions, and understand what you're allowing.
...because in the end, that's the hard truth -you're the one allowing access.
If you follow these simple steps, you'll protect yourself from 99% of malware. If you're worried about that 1%, don't be. Android malware hasn't progressed to the point where it's a major threat yet, so even if something does get through, it'll more than likely be nothing too major, and you'll figure out something's up pretty quick anyway. This may not be the case in say 12 months, but for now, it's fine.
If you're really paranoid, keep an app on standby, and run a scan every week or two, but disable any background process it has, it's more of a waste of time anyway. On a final note, keep in mind that it's been shown multiple times that Android antivirus software is, to be blunt, rubbish at detecting even the most common pieces of malware.
Remember, prevention is better than a cure
Im using kasperky mobile security cause i got a 1 year licence from a magazine.. But i never got an alarm until now (1,5 months), so i think atm its not necessary to use it .. Perhaps in some months when there are more viruses out in the web^^
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3) Don't pirate ****. This is probably the number-one source of malware on Android. Don't be a cheap dumbass.
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Most Android apps are of such low quality they don't deserve to be purchased.
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Hello,
i want to present you my latest open source library for android:
By using adblocker or activating the airplane mode it is possible to bypass the display of advertisement like admob banners in apps.
Now you can prevent this behaviour by using this library.
Instead of the blocked out admob banners show your banners for own products or products of your partners. The banners are stored within the app and can be displayed instead.
The project is a lib project with a sample project to show you how easy it is to integrate it into your project.
There is a basic implementation and an advanced implementation with callbacks.
It is possible to use banner ads and full screen ads at same time.
https://code.google.com/p/android-alliance-ads
Apps that use this library:
ID Card Scanner (Banner Ads)
My Instructions (Banner Ads)
Levi the Knight (Fullsceen Ads)
Best regards
Droidspirit
First reply,
Have no idea what to write
Just gonna say "Thanks"
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Is this lib a wrapper for admob?
Nonta72 said:
First reply,
Have no idea what to write
Just gonna say "Thanks"
Sent from my room mate's computer
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You know everyone could read this??
You are about to get quite a lot of hate, I know cause I'm starting to hate you.
So what ?
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You know everyone could read this??
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I know everyone can read it as well -_-
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Curses!!... Oops sorry couldn't control my emotions..
Anyway, like you said this is a lib that will contain ads for offline display, that means this could be really bulky to include in apps?
I think this is good
Not because I like ads but as written many people disable the ads and the developer doesn't earn as he should
Good idea and for sure developers will use it
Yes, the lib is a wrapper for admob.
Anyway, like you said this is a lib that will contain ads for offline display, that means this could be really bulky to include in apps?
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Your own banners use exactly the same dimensions as the admob banners. The normal user will not notice a difference to the admob banners.
You are about to get quite a lot of hate
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I hope it. The slogan is: "The scrounger have to pay"
You can test the lib in all my apps.
Thanks for the positive feedback
I just hope that all the developers will add a "pro" version of all apps released with this lib. I would rather pay cash than be annoyed by ads and banners.
Being forced to view ads without the ability to pay (or block!) for them to go away leads to uninstallation in my device. Every time.
I use an adblocker, but in saying that I pay for apps that are useful and solid.
A big decider for me is not only design in function but design in appearance.
The adblocker helps in making my choice to buy an app by removing distractions that are additional to the design and function.....
For me if I can't get a clean first impression then I probably don't want to spend time imagining how the app will work without advertising.
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Droidspirit said:
Yes, the lib is a wrapper for admob.
Your own banners use exactly the same dimensions as the admob banners. The normal user will not notice a difference to the admob banners.
I hope it. The slogan is: "The scrounger have to pay"
You can test the lib in all my apps.
Thanks for the positive feedback
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Just a notice if you patch the ads with offline mode you'll get no ads not even your own ads just a hint
[24th May i'm on vacation. so no work will be done] JAPAN HERE I COME :]
Yes, i know. The offline mode is also just for testing and possibly increases the willingness to buy.
Many users enable the airplane mode while playing games to disable ads. But that no longer works with the library.
I hope most users do not think like me but i really hate the advertised product when it shows up constantly!
How do you earn money with prepackaged ads ? How do you monetize this ?
With own banners you earn no money. but you can promote your other apps. or you show banner on another developer and he in turn for you. So you increase the breadth of your apps.
Good step
I block adds. Not to see no advertising but to protect my privacy.
Users should be able to decide weather the want to be tracked by add companies or not.
I totally understand that some developers don't want to sell the apps but need some money for further development. If the adds are stored locally no tracker will be informed in real time.
Offline ads? Incredibly annoying and will reduce my support of Devs that go this route. Finding innovative ways to antagonize end users is ill considered. It's dismaying when Devs use ads as their primary (or worse, sole) revenue stream. I have absolutely no problem with Devs who have an ad free paid version and an ad supported "free" version. You do deserve to be compensated for your work. But realize that there is a right way and wrong way to go about that.
If your work is interesting enough for me to install, I for one will buy the paid version app. Devs that do not have an ad free alternative should expect a lot of hate. Well deserved hate. There is a lot a good work by Devs to be admired on this site. Please don't make it hard to support your work. Or erode end user loyalty by totally alienating us.
Hey, nice lib! I will have fun figuring out how to block it entirely in all ROMS I release. Hell, maybe I'll make an exposed module too.
As a developer, it's your right to decide how to try and generate revenue from your work.
And, as an end-user, it's my right to not have to look at ugly banner ads. Honestly...how many deliberate clicks have you EVER seen on a banner ad? I can't think of anybody in their right mind who would ever want to click one.
Here's a better idea...instead of helping others to continue to force crap on users...either make the app entirely free, or make one feature-restricted version and one premium version. You know...make us want to pay for more STUFF instead of less CRAP.
But no, really...I will be working out a way to block this ridiculous idea. Thanks.
I don't dev for andro but nice lib. Hope devs would make a good use of this and give a way out of the adds (ads removal in app purchase !)
Congratulations for portal appearance !
Gillion said:
How do you earn money with prepackaged ads ? How do you monetize this ?
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You can put a banner to buy ccleaner for your computer and use a customized link to get some money on the buy, you can put an ads for a paid app you made yourself ... just an example, there's multiple ways. Imagination is the key.
It was all nice and good but..
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Levi the Knight (Fullsceen Ads)
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Allowing this kind of ads to show with your lib will just make people who don't mind well placed ads (unobtrusive banners, ads in the settings screen) look for a way to disable your lib.
Although there is no (yet) statistics showing the real number to how bad the piracy on Android is, there are reports saying more than 90% of installs on Android were not paid for (Google). There have been lots and lotsa blows exchange between developers and hackers (and for gods sake this is never gonna end). Anti-piracy solutions are being discussed here and there, all the discussions are (eventually) pointing towards server authentication as the only way to counter piracy effectively.
As a developer, I am not excused from all this hack-and-anti-hack things. And (obviously) I have no better solution than anyone else. Here, I am gonna share a small library that I have coded to help scan for pirate apps on the device. This library is really simple, what it does is to grab a list (I called it pirate-app-list) from the internet and scan it through the device to determine whether an offended app is installed on the device.
This project is actually a product from the 1st suggestion in this XDA thread. In the thread, it recommends to search for the pirate apps and force the user to uninstall it. I implemented the former part of the suggestion, while leaving the latter to the developers to decide. The only difference that I have made is to put this static list on the internet instead of hard-coding it to save us the trouble of updating the app for the purpose of updating the list.
This project is by no means a solution to anti-hacking. Rather, its a hope that developers can work together to make sure users stay away from those apps (by forcing/reminding them to uninstall it). I believe those apps will not survive if it does not gain enough active users? Or maybe it does..
This project is open-sourced on GitHub together with the pirate-app-list. Feel free to check it out.
Currently, only "Lucky Patcher" and "Freedom" are listed on the pirate-app-list (with filters). Anybody interested in the project are free to join so we can work on the list and more importantly, the definition of what a pirate app is.
Your feedback is very much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Lucky patcher is also used for functions that do not concern piracy, such as running two versions of the same app... I think that you can't force or continuosly remind a user to uninstall an app that he needs.
Edit: Also, I think that most of the piracy is based on pirated apk, not apps like LP or Freedom, which only act for IAP. The solution to prevent IAP piracy is server validation, but for pirated APK it's not.
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Lucky patcher is also used for functions that do not concern piracy, such as running two versions of the same app... I think that you can't force or continuosly remind a user to uninstall an app that he needs.
Edit: Also, I think that most of the piracy is based on pirated apk, not apps like LP or Freedom, which only act for IAP. The solution to prevent IAP piracy is server validation, but for pirated APK it's not.
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Thank you for your reply.
Actually, as I have pointed out in the thread, this project implements only the scanner part, it doesn't act for the developers. Developers have to decide what they want to do with the detected piracy. Its really nice to be able to run 2 versions of the same app on 1 device, I believe ChelpuS should make another app with this feature, or without other features in Lucky Patcher.
I'm sorry, but if an app tells me to uninstall something - I'm uninstalling that app first
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Although there is no (yet) statistics showing the real number to how bad the piracy on Android is, there are reports saying more than 90% of installs on Android were not paid for (Google). There have been lots and lotsa blows exchange between developers and hackers (and for gods sake this is never gonna end). Anti-piracy solutions are being discussed here and there, all the discussions are (eventually) pointing towards server authentication as the only way to counter piracy effectively.
As a developer, I am not excused from all this hack-and-anti-hack things. And (obviously) I have no better solution than anyone else. Here, I am gonna share a small library that I have coded to help scan for pirate apps on the device. This library is really simple, what it does is to grab a list (I called it pirate-app-list) from the internet and scan it through the device to determine whether an offended app is installed on the device.
This project is actually a product from the 1st suggestion in this XDA thread. In the thread, it recommends to search for the pirate apps and force the user to uninstall it. I implemented the former part of the suggestion, while leaving the latter to the developers to decide. The only difference that I have made is to put this static list on the internet instead of hard-coding it to save us the trouble of updating the app for the purpose of updating the list.
This project is by no means a solution to anti-hacking. Rather, its a hope that developers can work together to make sure users stay away from those apps (by forcing/reminding them to uninstall it). I believe those apps will not survive if it does not gain enough active users? Or maybe it does..
This project is open-sourced on GitHub together with the pirate-app-list. Feel free to check it out.
Currently, only "Lucky Patcher" and "Freedom" are listed on the pirate-app-list (with filters). Anybody interested in the project are free to join so we can work on the list and more importantly, the definition of what a pirate app is.
Your feedback is very much appreciated.
Thank you.
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Sorry to tell you. But XDA rule number 6 States that you are not allowed to talk about apps like Lucky Patcher and Freedom. I hope the moderators will ignore you for a noob.
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PoseidonKing
PoseidonKing said:
Sorry to tell you. But XDA rule number 6 States that you are not allowed to talk about apps like Lucky Patcher and Freedom. I hope the moderators will ignore you for a noob.
Regards,
PoseidonKing
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You are misinformed. We allow threads such as these because they are educational and are about preventative purposes against those applications. I would suggest you actually read what the purpose of this thread is about before telling other users about what the XDA rules say, which incidentally is not your 'job' to do.
Hello everyone. I've been always very keen into adding content guard to my rom. Recently I found out that there was 38% of pirated apps on an android system. I have to admit that I don't own any app which gets me premium apps right now, but I like the flexibility to explore if an app is good or not before buying. At the same time it becomes a flaw because android does not provide any sort of protection.
So the debate starts here, should this be included on the rom? Yes or no, but more importantly why?
Remember that when you install an app which was not bought, you are taking from a dev his "food supply".
Thank you,
Jorge
I liked the idea when its first implemented by Dave in Exodus, safeguard developer interest and protect user from any infected app
Hi AFAIK there are some options to return bought app in a play store within some limitted time. Also there are a lot of free test versions of apps.. just saying because i was always on side of freedom of choice.. And finally if it really give us more protection it is necessary thing but i am aware if some xposed or root apps can be blocked ... its a really hard decission Jorge lets wait for others opinions...
Yep removing thieves is always the best option! Do it I'd say --- and be prepared for idiots hatin' lol
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gerciolisz said:
Hi AFAIK there are some options to return bought app in a play store within some limitted time. Also there are a lot of free test versions of apps.. just saying because i was always on side of freedom of choice.. And finally if it really give us more protection it is necessary thing but i am aware if some xposed or root apps can be blocked ... its a really hard decission Jorge lets wait for others opinions...
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Hello. Basically what this does is protects the developer interests by not permitting apps which give the ability to have access to premium apps for free. The list is :
https://github.com/ContentGuard/Ant...roid-6.0.1/src/utils/AntiPiracyConstants.java
Only apps which MAIN purpose is pirating, are blocked.
So most likely you won't be affected
If you have any other questions, I'll try to answer these the best way possible
Alex
I would say that it is a good idea, but the number of people that don't like the idea would lead to a negative effect on the ROM and its users just like it happened to Exodus when it first got implemented.
Therefore I would be against the idea of implementing ContentGuard into the ROM.
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BTW i think if they dont want content guard they can just compile ROM wothout it.. simple solution
Just stepping in here as a moderator on XDA. Our point of view is: We do support apps like this. XDA has a rule against discussing or requesting warez. If we find any posts that are asking for help, or asking for links to download warez apps, EG an app that is on playstore but needs to be bought, or an app that has in app purchases, if a user is trying to bypass these, we remove it. So from an XDA standpoint developers are free to add ContentGuard into their rom. We have no issues with that at all.
Well I don't know what is possible with these blocked apps, i.e. if they can be used for legit things or if they are used solely for pirating other apps ecc.
If the sole purpose of those apps, is stealing, I would include this into the ROM. And If people would complain I would just tell them that stealing is not a supported feature on this ROM.
I mean, you can't go around stealing in RL, there are alarms, walls, tresors ecc. this is just an anti-theft-system for digital goods.
Stone_88 said:
Well I don't know what is possible with these blocked apps, i.e. if they can be used for legit things or if they are used solely for pirating other apps ecc.
If the sole purpose of those apps, is stealing, I would include this into the ROM. And If people would complain I would just tell them that stealing is not a supported feature on this ROM.
I mean, you can't go around stealing in RL, there are alarms, walls, tresors ecc. this is just an anti-theft-system for digital goods.
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The criteria for adding an app is whether the main purpose of the app is piracy
Alex
I'm happy either way, I don't use pirated apps and love my devs, so if it helps them add it.. If people want to use these apps then they aren't supporting their devs anyways so freeloaders and theives can get lost..
jgcaap said:
Hello everyone. I've been always very keen into adding content guard to my rom. Recently I found out that there was 38% of pirated apps on an android system. I have to admit that I don't own any app which gets me premium apps right now, but I like the flexibility to explore if an app is good or not before buying. At the same time it becomes a flaw because android does not provide any sort of protection.
So the debate starts here, should this be included on the rom? Yes or no, but more importantly why?
Remember that when you install an app which was not bought, you are taking from a dev his "food supply".
Thank you,
Jorge
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This is completely useless because there exists a xposed module which easily disables the content guard again. Have fun blocking xposed
hellcat50 said:
This is completely useless because there exists a xposed module which easily disables the content guard again. Have fun blocking xposed
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Well related to that, contenguard has also a solution where xposed module doesn't work.
Would like to know your opinion. Do you favor piracy? Why do you think is useless to fight for a more honest enviroment? Thanks
hellcat50 said:
This is completely useless because there exists a xposed module which easily disables the content guard again. Have fun blocking xposed
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The module doesn't work
TheCrazyLex said:
The module doesn't work
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It's working for sure...
I think it's quite stupid to implement anything, which has no effect. If you want pirated apps there are ways also with this module.
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lampshade90 said:
It's working for sure...
I think it's quite stupid to implement anything, which has no effect. If you want pirated apps there are ways also with this module.
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The real question i would like to see your opinion, would be this.
Google haven't done much to protect developers work.
As you know many developers donate their time for free to develop apps. And consider some apps should be used for a small fee.
Same as you going to a store and having the option to steal or to buy a book.
Sometimes we think " ah those companies are gigantic" , but they also pay to alot of people to work. Shouldn't that matter ?
As a human beeing, i've donated to xda, donated blood to hospital, donated my free time to help poor people in Portugal, donated my time to help timor (around 1996-7 when i was a kid). But when i'm providing a service, where the deal is i'll do this and in exchange i'll receive something. Don't you believe it is fair?
The big problem with the anti piracy measures, which in my opinion should be implemented by google , do not work effectivly for users. In exchange many of us get used to that reality. Right? But should we? Or should we try do something?
I came up with this thread because, I've thought about Content Guard as a measure which is not efficient to change and become a safe working enviroment for people which dedicate their lives to android. But I think we can see this as a simbol of wanting things to change from some people which are frustrated for not beeing sucessfull in their work.
So I ask you, as all users here. We live and fight our lifes to be happy. Should we embrace and try better solutions to find a balance where more people becomes happy (developers), and in exchange they'll be putting more time, doing a harder work to deliver a better app.
What do you think?
As you know i'm Democratic, and I love to discuss ideas. So please, feel free to share yours. I'll be happy to understand your perpective as it is important to find a common ground together.
Thanks
jgcaap said:
Well related to that, contenguard has also a solution where xposed module doesn't work.
Would like to know your opinion. Do you favor piracy? Why do you think is useless to fight for a more honest enviroment? Thanks
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Although I do not pirate apps, I would rather not have contentguard. Google could've easily have anti piracy measures on stock roms considering that a high percentage of apps are pirated, but they didn't, because it compromises the openness of android (I know there are a lot of additional factors to this as well.) Developers of roms shouldn't have to take it upon themselves to force users to not install certain applications because even if contentguard is present, people who pirate can easily switch over to other roms, which means that contentguard only hurts the privacy people who actually pay for apps.
I understand what the rom developers are trying to do with contentguard, but it is not effective on a large enough scale to be a viable stop to piracy, unless it is implemented google themselves (a couple thousand of people running a custom rom which happen to have contentguard vs about a billion android devices).
TLDR: No
jgcaap said:
The real question i would like to see your opinion, would be this.
Google haven't done much to protect developers work.
As you know many developers donate their time for free to develop apps. And consider some apps should be used for a small fee.
Same as you going to a store and having the option to steal or to buy a book.
Sometimes we think " ah those companies are gigantic" , but they also pay to alot of people to work. Shouldn't that matter ?
As a human beeing, i've donated to xda, donated blood to hospital, donated my free time to help poor people in Portugal, donated my time to help timor (around 1996-7 when i was a kid). But when i'm providing a service, where the deal is i'll do this and in exchange i'll receive something. Don't you believe it is fair?
The big problem with the anti piracy measures, which in my opinion should be implemented by google , do not work effectivly for users. In exchange many of us get used to that reality. Right? But should we? Or should we try do something?
I came up with this thread because, I've thought about Content Guard as a measure which is not efficient to change and become a safe working enviroment for people which dedicate their lives to android. But I think we can see this as a simbol of wanting things to change from some people which are frustrated for not beeing sucessfull in their work.
So I ask you, as all users here. We live and fight our lifes to be happy. Should we embrace and try better solutions to find a balance where more people becomes happy (developers), and in exchange they'll be putting more time, doing a harder work to deliver a better app.
What do you think?
As you know i'm Democratic, and I love to discuss ideas. So please, feel free to share yours. I'll be happy to understand your perpective as it is important to find a common ground together.
Thanks
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For me it seems, that you haven't understand the meaning of capitalism.
Some people will live some people will die. Some people will be rich, some poor, same for companies.
That's the world.
I think it's up to the developer. There are ways to make piracy harder. The harder you will make it, the more people will buy it. If you're not capable of programming an app, which is hard to Crack you should definitely change your job to something you're good at.
Your social engagement might be good for you, for me it would wasting my small amount of time. From your text you could get an intention that it's god given what you will make out of your life. It's definitely not.
I don't care if you implement this. You will make it harder to use pirated apps but it's still possible and it's work for you. So I have no opinion to this topic I just wanted state out, that it will be work for you, less people will use your rom and if you want pirated apps it's still possible.
But honestly noone will buy an app due to your implementation. Maybe it will gain you experience but nothing more....
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lampshade90 said:
For me it seems, that you haven't understand the meaning of capitalism.
Some people will live some people will die. Some people will be rich, some poor, same for companies.
That's the world.
I think it's up to the developer. There are ways to make piracy harder. The harder you will make it, the more people will buy it. If you're not capable of programming an app, which is hard to Crack you should definitely change your job to something you're good at.
Your social engagement might be good for you, for me it would wasting my small amount of time. From your text you could get an intention that it's god given what you will make out of your life. It's definitely not.
I don't care if you implement this. You will make it harder to use pirated apps but it's still possible and it's work for you. So I have no opinion to this topic I just wanted state out, that it will be work for you, less people will use your rom and if you want pirated apps it's still possible.
But honestly noone will buy an app due to your implementation. Maybe it will gain you experience but nothing more....
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Well is also true we live capitalism. But the way you express it is like it doesn't have flaws. Do you really believe that?
I haven't decided on adding yet. I like to listen to people, to speak and discuss. For you might be a loss of your time... But for me is information gathered among different people which I believe it is important, or I would be rather selfish on doing things without asking questions. No ? =p
Hehe.
Thank you for your honest answer.
f41lbl0g said:
Although I do not pirate apps, I would rather not have contentguard. Google could've easily have anti piracy measures on stock roms considering that a high percentage of apps are pirated, but they didn't, because it compromises the openness of android (I know there are a lot of additional factors to this as well.) Developers of roms shouldn't have to take it upon themselves to force users to not install certain applications because even if contentguard is present, people who pirate can easily switch over to other roms, which means that contentguard only hurts the privacy people who actually pay for apps.
I understand what the rom developers are trying to do with contentguard, but it is not effective on a large enough scale to be a viable stop to piracy, unless it is implemented google themselves (a couple thousand of people running a custom rom which happen to have contentguard vs about a billion android devices).
TLDR: No
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Thanks