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Hey guys - I am having a problem with my phone, and I am hoping someone can help? (Running stock/no-root, w/2.3.4)
A few weeks prior to the 2.3.4 release (while on 2.3.3), I noticed that an app called Bump was constantly running in the background (even though I had never launched the app before), and I'd have to constantly go in and manually kill it.
*Also I should note, Google Maps was another constant running app, that I would have to manually kill along with the Bump app.
This got tiresome, and since I wasn't using Bump anyway, I went ahead and uninstalled it. I figured that a recent update to the app/Bump, was the cause. After removing the Bump app, the problem went away (as well as the Google Maps stopped running in the background too - odd I know).
Anyway, the problem is back, but much worse this time - as this past couple of days, my phone is now running a bunch of apps in the background out of the blue!
1) Tango
2) To Market Lite
3) Google Market (even though I have Accounts & Sync/Background Data turned off)
4) Google Music
5) YouTube
6) Photaf
*Note: I have not launched any of the apps listed above in awhile, except for Google Market, which I turn on Background Data for this, and then turn off when I am done.
I have since removed Tango, but it hasn't solved the problem. It seems to happen the most when I turn my phone on (after I reboot, or if I charge over night with the phone turned off), but also will happen when phone is on during the day - with no reboot.
Anyone have an idea what's causing this, or how to fix it? TIA!
The best way to fix this is to stop worrying about it.
Apps do sometimes run in the background or have services waiting for some events to happen - it actuially HELPS battery life and performance and barely consumes any CPU cycles until something happens that triggers the app.
Killing them will drain your battery and make you crazy, more than letting the apps work as designed will.
patrixl said:
The best way to fix this is to stop worrying about it.
Apps do sometimes run in the background or have services waiting for some events to happen - it actuially HELPS battery life and performance and barely consumes any CPU cycles until something happens that triggers the app.
Killing them will drain your battery and make you crazy, more than letting the apps work as designed will.
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Thank you for the feedback. I just found it odd that this just started happening, especially since some of the apps running were apps I haven't launched in ages (or ever used).
Also (and I forgot to mention in my post above), that a couple of the apps were running so hardcore - that it set off the alarm in Watchdog, as an app draining my battery and memory - telling me to kill it. So idk what to think, other than I find this behavior a bit odd.
Many of them are set to run based on conditions, like bootup, wifi on, widget added, etc. If you hate it, download autostarts from the market.
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i have a similar issue but as stated above i just leave them alone
Is there a way I can officially know if I have a bad battery on my LGG2? When I had purchased the phone, I never really took interest in it because of it's battery life, but after hearing that it has a great battery life I thought mine was lacking. I hear people having it go for two days without a charge. Yet mine was being charged once a day or more at least. I had batterydoctor installed, and when I had it, it would say I got about 22 hours or so normally. Then 17 or so.
I took the phone to the AT&T service center to get a replacement as I felt as if the battery was bad. Yet after getting the new one, I feel as if I'm having the same problem or even worse.
I'm still getting below 20 hours, and the battery seems to die faster than expected. I do not do a lot on my phone as it is. I had previously only had BatteryDoctor control the CPU, but I purchased SetCPU to get a bit better control on my CPU. I read push notifications was more efficient than 15 minute intervals, so I set those on my email apps. I don't have a lot of widgets, or even more than two. My screen brightness is usually below half.
Am I just plagued with a bad battery, or am I doing somethings wrong here? Anymore I can do?
Along the lines of this, is there a list of what bloatware apps I can uninstall from the LGG2? I had uninstalled a lot, but I'm not really sure what is still safe or unsafe to uninstall.
The built in battery manager as of now expects my battery to last around 6-8 hours, while battery doctor says 15 hours.
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I am aware I can't uninstall anything my system needs, but I am not aware of what my system needs and does not need. I know of the obvious bloatware applications, so I uninstalled those. As for other things, I am not sure of. I would like to get rid of any unneeded apps that I will not use or have no use for as much as possible. And my device is rooted. And I do use Titanium Backup.
Sorry about that, I'm not good at explaining things most of the time. I'm not really sure as of what proof is needed. Though I have checked before. Google Services seems to come up often. Android System is the second I usually see as well. Screen usually comes into third or lower. I will disable the Location Services and see how things work out.
Thanks for the help so far. If there is any other info that is needed, I will try my best to provide such things.
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I will give it some thought on using either a modified or custom ROM. I have not yet tried that with any phone I have had before because I'm afraid that normal phone functions might not work. That and I did not have too much experience in messing with ROMs, but I have now done so on my tablets. Though I might still look for a list just in case.
I will look into these two apps to see how they might work and if they will be any benefit. I have heard of a couple other apps to try and extend the battery life as well.
I might look into Greenify as well. It sounds like it could have its use, but I'm not sure I would really use it as such. I did enjoy using Google Now, but I used it mostly for the weather. I can get any other random weather app and probably be just as fine. I don't think I ever used Location Services for anything else other than Google Now or Maps. Which if I need to use the GPS, I can turn it on once again.
Is using such apps like SetCPU a good idea? Or does that make things worse?
Hey guys, I've had my VZW G2 since Feb and could not imagine being any happier with a phone. It's been completely perfect up until about a month ago.
I've been running official KK 442 since close to release. I tether a Pebble Steel daily. Phone is rooted and xposed with G2 Tweaksbox, GravityBox (KK),XBlast, and XuiMod as the main xposed mods installed.
Apps commonly used:
Facebook
FB Messenger
Poweramp
Chrome
Opera
Spotify
BleacherReport
Yahoo Fantasy
Light Flow
Sync (bit torrent Sync- just started using it well after battery issues started)
Pocket Casts
Mint
Pebble app (always latest from Play Store)
Various pebble apps like MusicBoss and PebbleLocker
Running this set up, i used to EASILY get at least 30+ hours battery life, with most days above 40+. That's being tethered to my watch for 9 hours. I didnt even have a charger at work because id be at 75% by the end of the day and would get an entire second work day out of the same charge.
Then one day I woke up and havent been able to get better than 25, with many days barely making 12-18. My battery life has been effectively halved and I can't figure out why. I'm constantly playing with settings or installing new apps, so I reverted any and all possible changes I'd made and froze all recently installed/new apps. When this didn't fix the problem, I started uninstalling and freezing apps that had been updated recently in the Play Store. When that didn't work, i took more drastic measures:
Things I've done:
FDR device, including wiping all data in TWRP and turning off google's app data sync to ensure fresh settings/config files
Uninstalled or used TitaniumBackup to freeze 40+ apps, including all non-necessary apps often considered to be battery hogs (fb+messenger, for example)
Froze Xposed and disabled all mods to run almost completely stock ROM with largely default settings
Monitored GSAM, BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector, and CPU Spy for rogue/borked apps
Skipped wearing Pebble for a day to test
Updated and downgraded Google Play Services (various versions from as old as this past spring to the latest version released last week)
Prayed to Joe Pesci
Has anyone heard or seen ANYTHING that could be causing massive battery life losses but that doesn't show up as an app with massive wakelocks? Google Play Services has tons of wakelocks, but it always has. It's a known battery hog, but additional WLs and battery consumption are now expected with Google consolidating more and more services into it, so I'm not sure what to expect now. I dont use Hangouts but keep it installed and frozen 99.9999% of the time.
Not sure what else to do at this point.
still having major battery life issues. I've fdr twice and ran stock with minimal apps for a day with very little change.
guess my battery is bad. ugh.
is it worth replacing myself or should I try and get vzw or lg to replace it under standard warranty?
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All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.
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All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.
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Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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My phone still says it's awake all the time and Google play services is using the Lions share of my battery, however I am getting about 2 days out of my battery like I used to before this problem. It's annoying, but I don't think it's that bad. You can try disabling those 2 receivers with auto run manager like I did but if your battery is even worse after that I would just re-enable them and leave it.
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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.
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The phone was bought off as the last one on the store. Worten, in Portugal. So it was a demo phone. I have no idea, for how long the phone was plugged in to the charger, being demo'ed. I am afraid the batttery has lost some of it's power. Nonetheless, i will use it for a few days and then return it for warranty if i don't think it's in prime condition...
Also, i had an HTC HD2 with custom rom, then moved to a Galaxy S2 with a custom rom as well (AOSP 4.4.2 with Cyanogen) and now i am using the stock LG rom. I can't say exactly that it sucks, but for sure i prefer the stock AOSP experience with the right tweeks.
Well, a patently I got 6:55, and 33 hours of phone usage on my first experience with the car phone. I used 3g, wife, and web browsing. I don't know if it's good, but I highly doubt it...
Hey all,
Recently got my S10+ replaced under insurance (dropped it about 10 stories), and have since rooted it (magisk).
I get a crazy amount of battery drain, up to 35% an hour when using spotify (and Viper4Android). I get high CPU alerts constantly from google play services, even overnight when charging and not touching at all. Device runs very very hot too.
Just want to ask whether anyone else has had this problem before taking it back and asking for a new phone. Seems like a faulty phone but don't want to rule out a bad flash
Cheerio
I suppose bthat you are rooted, since using viper... Use battery stats to se exactly what is the problem, is it kernel or app related... Either ways, good quick start would be cash clear from recovery and network reset... If still draining, force stop than delete data for gplay, services and google framework this will log you out
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Hey all,
Recently got my S10+ replaced under insurance (dropped it about 10 stories), and have since rooted it (magisk).
I get a crazy amount of battery drain, up to 35% an hour when using spotify (and Viper4Android). I get high CPU alerts constantly from google play services, even overnight when charging and not touching at all. Device runs very very hot too.
Just want to ask whether anyone else has had this problem before taking it back and asking for a new phone. Seems like a faulty phone but don't want to rule out a bad flash
Cheerio
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I'd feel pretty stupid if I rooted a phone and then considered taking it back because of battery drain. I don't know how anyone could say it seems like a faulty phone when they apparently immediately rooted it without testing the battery life. I'd suggest learning how to use a phone before rooting it and then claiming the sky is falling. Unbelievable.
Tel864 said:
I'd feel pretty stupid if I rooted a phone and then considered taking it back because of battery drain. I don't know how anyone could say it seems like a faulty phone when they apparently immediately rooted it without testing the battery life. I'd suggest learning how to use a phone before rooting it and then claiming the sky is falling. Unbelievable.
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I've had rooted Android phones for the better part of 10 years. I also had the same problem BEFORE rooting, and flashed a custom OS to ensure the battery drain wasn't due to bloatware. In addition, if you read my post properly you would have noted that this is only an issue with a replaced S10, and was never a problem with the original S10, which means I am completely aware of battery usage life.
Keep your useless and misinformed comments to yourself.
DSX2 said:
Hey all,
Recently got my S10+ replaced under insurance (dropped it about 10 stories), and have since rooted it (magisk).
I get a crazy amount of battery drain, up to 35% an hour when using spotify (and Viper4Android). I get high CPU alerts constantly from google play services, even overnight when charging and not touching at all. Device runs very very hot too.
Just want to ask whether anyone else has had this problem before taking it back and asking for a new phone. Seems like a faulty phone but don't want to rule out a bad flash
Cheerio
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Yeah this problem is old as Android itself the way i dealt with it in the past is i used betterbatterystats app overnight let it record who and what is sucking the battery dry. In your case it seems google services framework is the problem (surprise surprise)
If i was in your shoes i would try what @Sparkynis suggested first, clear cache and data it will delete your google account restart the phone wipe cache in recovery and add your account again if the problem is still there then you might have an app that refuses to go to sleep
and it will show up in betterbatterystats. If that fails i would wipe everything start from scratch only adding your google account not installing any apps besides the betterbatterystats to see if it's the google services framework messed up or an app you have installed that is forcing a wakelock somehow.
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Yeah this problem is old as Android itself the way i dealt with it in the past is i used betterbatterystats app overnight let it record who and what is sucking the battery dry. In your case it seems google services framework is the problem (surprise surprise)
If i was in your shoes i would try what @Sparkynis suggested first, clear cache and data it will delete your google account restart the phone wipe cache in recovery and add your account again if the problem is still there then you might have an app that refuses to go to sleep
and it will show up in betterbatterystats. If that fails i would wipe everything start from scratch only adding your google account not installing any apps besides the betterbatterystats to see if it's the google services framework messed up or an app you have installed that is forcing a wakelock somehow.
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Thanks mate, did the battery stat's and it's the location alarm triggering a couple of times a second. Have reformatted and flashed multiple times and yet to fix the problem. Leaving location services off, however, does solve the problem.
This workaround works fine until I get my s20 but unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause. Faulty gps chip maybe? No idea.
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Thanks mate, did the battery stat's and it's the location alarm triggering a couple of times a second. Have reformatted and flashed multiple times and yet to fix the problem. Leaving location services off, however, does solve the problem.
This workaround works fine until I get my s20 but unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause. Faulty gps chip maybe? No idea.
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Try looking into Google Maps that app triggers location services ALOT even when not running, i have the Unlocked s10+ U1 and even i notice the same thing with Location off i lose 2% of battery overnight with it left on i lose about 9%
Do uninstall google maps and let me know if it's the same. Also i used to have an app called wakelock detector full i haven't used it since my gf bought me the s10+ last version i have is 2.0.4 last updated in 2017 lol but it helped me find apps and system services that are awake and using cpu alot maybe that will help you find the cause