Related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1oEftG3LQU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKVchuk4-Ps&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLSbcAN9wxw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If the 500T (yes I see that's a 700T) works well enough, It may be goodbye Note 10.1. I just don't know if it has Wi - Fi Direct very useful feature.
Looks and does the same as the note except thats a pc
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Looks nice but i hate windows. Android and open source appeals more to me
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They're different animals. You can enjoy both.
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It may be goodbye Note 10.1.
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We've all heard the "good" from reviewers that have had little hands on time. You go first and tell us what the "bad" is. To me, there's no rush. There will be plenty of W8 tablets to go around and no harm in waiting for SP2 to address what the early adopters discover. V1 of anything, no matter how thorough the planning and design, is always Mr. Toad's wild ride.
This is from a pre-release review of the HP TouchPad. May it rest in peace.
Finally, webOS on the big screen -- or bigger anyway. The TouchPad is HP's first device running webOS 3.0, a more tablet-friendly version of the little mobile operating system that we've come to love over the years. If you're familiar with earlier versions on perhaps a Pre or a Veer you'll be quite comfortable here because, on the outset, not a lot has changed, particularly when it comes to our favorite part of the OS: multitasking.
Either tap the physical Home button or just swipe up from the bottom of the screen and you'll get into the patented webOS card view, which has been often imitated but never quite duplicated. Each app gets its own card and, should that program spawn a new window (a new browser instance, say, or a new email) that additional card joins a stack. You can then shuffle through the cards in any given pile, drag them around, or just flick them off the top of the screen to send them to the big garbage collector in the sky.
As ever, navigating apps like this is genuinely fun; there's something very satisfying about literally throwing away a window that you no longer want cluttering up your screen or your RAM. And it's all helped by everything in the OS being generally snappy and responsive -- even if the applications themselves are occasionally rather less so. Cycling through running programs and swiping around is quick, but the experience is less gesture-heavy than previous phone versions.
toenail_flicker said:
They're different animals. You can enjoy both.
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I was thinking keeping the Note 10.1 for school/fun, and the ATIV for Work / presenting. (man is it hard to write a slash) but will feel silly having both(Ipad currently"bathroom" material)
Other dilema is getting the N2 when I have the OG Note. First world problems.
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I was thinking keeping the Note 10.1 for school/fun, and the ATIV for Work / presenting. (man is it hard to write a slash) but will feel silly having both(Ipad currently"bathroom" material)
Other dilema is getting the N2 when I have the OG Note. First world problems.
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Have to admit that's a quality problem.
Same functionality as GN 10.1 but double the cost, higher energy usage and heat output, more bloat and questionable stability.
I don't miss turning on my Windows desktop and laptop.
mi7chy said:
Same functionality as GN 10.1 but double the cost, higher energy usage and heat output, more bloat and questionable stability.
I don't miss turning on my Windows desktop and laptop.
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I go out of my way not to use either of them.
I think Microsoft's new products and os RT and 8 on the surface will step change the market like the original net books did in their time and the original iPad too, I love my note 10.1 and have hardly put it down since I got it, but I am hitting the limitations of android more and more as I use it for productivity, instance photo gallery apps can't display nested folders, they can't display a folders worth of pictures on a map, no native word or excel products.....it's still a remarkably good attempt to be an all round tool rather than just a consumption device.
I also think Apple will be forced to introduce proper stylus support as Samsung have,and soon Windows 8 and RT will show consumers do want to use a stylus in conjunction with a multi touch screen despite what Steve jobs decreed......the upcoming iPod mini is testament to Apple having to catch up on the market rather than lead it, I'll not want an Apple tablet for the moment due to its straight jacket os & eco system but I'll certainly consider a Windows 8/ RT for my next one
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ok all the W8 tabs released are RT version which means none of the native apps will work on them, Every software needs time to get stable and since this is the first version expect lots of issues. Yes the built quality of tabs are impressive but thats not what matters in a gadget we are not in a beauty contest its the usability the biggest dis advantge W8 will have is apps as they will take time. Then we do not know the future roadmap windows never upgrades for free and has a very long update cycle and we already know none of the W7 devices can be upgraded to W8 and that could be the case in future to.
Again its a close enviourment and hence you will have very future options a perfect case example is I have an 2x and we all know LG is still to update it to 4 but because there are so many developers out there we have un official roms which will do it that will also be the case with Samsung note but wont with windows 8
To be frank if I have to look at anything other then Android then why not go in for IPad why would i gamble of W8 when know none of the windows versions have been perfect
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We've all heard the "good" from reviewers that have had little hands on time. You go first and tell us what the "bad" is. To me, there's no rush. There will be plenty of W8 tablets to go around an
PHP:
d no harm in waiting for SP2 to address what the early adopters discover. V1 of anything, no matter how thorough the planning and design, is always Mr. Toad's wild ride.
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Seconded!!!
We need James Franco in these videos; they look too corporate :laugh:
The promo videos always look nice; I'm anxiously waiting to get some hands-on time with the Series 5 slate before passing any judgement. As mentioned, no rush at this point.
PS: I liked the part where he was projecting a power point presentation without any wires. I don't think I've seen that "feature" mentioned anywhere
Reviewers can be paid to give a good review wait from reviews from actual users who will give an un biased review
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ok all the W8 tabs released are RT version. I DONT THINK THIS IS CORRECT. (Proversion is everywhere. And plenty of review vids of pro in action.) ,
Every software needs time to get stable. TRUE .
Yes the built quality of tabs are impressive but thats not what matters in a gadget we are not in a beauty contest its the usability the biggest dis advantge W8 will have is apps as they will take time TRUE AGAIN.
Then we do not know the future roadmap windows never upgrades for free and has a very long update cycle BUT STILL SUPPORTS SYSTEMS10 YEARs OLD
CANT SAY THAT FOR APPLE 1. W HICH IS ONLY 2 YEARS OLD
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To be clear just making some observations and don't want my caps to be taken wrong as i wasnt sure if my text would get lost in your quote.
I who use my tab.s. for work 80 percent of each day will take the chance on a win 8 as I believe they will not let this fail without a good fight.
I have not Put my note down since getting it and will never get another tab without a dig Pen. That said I will probably get the ativ to try it out.but still keep my note :silly:
Ok Please check this link
http://www.gizmag.com/windows-8-tablet-showdow/24440/
It clearly says none of the tablet are release till day the first one will be released is Surface and the version to be released is RT and pro version will only release next year
Please read this about windows RT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT
also if you see the pricing of the tabs except for surface they are almost double compared to any other tab even the pro version of surface tab is supposed to cost around a 1000$ but that is speculation as no pricing is out.
I would not say that windows 7 will support a system 10 years old that is not factually and technicall correct 10 years back the standard ram and pc configuration available would not be able to run windows 7 and that is more so case with windows 8 and even the drivers for earlier version will not work with windows 8 as I am using it for couple of months and I know that for sure and it is a fact that Windows 7 for mobiles which is built for ARM processor based devices cannot be upgraded to windows 8 and so was the case with windows 6 based devices. so when it comes to mobile devices microsoft is no different and the same is more disturbing with windows devices is because generally the limitation to upgrade the software is because the hardware is not powerful enough but in windows 7 mobile case nokias flagship lumia models even today are shipping with it.
So even someone who purchases a top of the line phone from nokia today cannot upgrade its OS which comes out this month isnt this a serious flaw in it itself and worst then what apple does.
If you look at it what does windows offer except for a live tile interface the RT will come with office and some more apps but other then that there is nothing exciting about it believe me you will get bored with the tile app pretty soon most of the PC users do not like it and hence its logical most of the tablet users will also not like it.
Even one of its biggest partners Intel has said windows 8 is not ready
mi7chy said:
Same functionality as GN 10.1 but double the cost, higher energy usage and heat output, more bloat and questionable stability.
I don't miss turning on my Windows desktop and laptop.
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This maybe the most misinformed thing on this forum yet!
Right now Windows 8 is a lot more stable than any version of android. Is not double the cost (749 with the keyboard for Smart PC, 650 without keyboard for Note 10.1). The atom version isn't going to have any more heat output but will have about the same battery life, the i5 will be a ton faster.
Also: OneNote.
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ok all the W8 tabs released are RT version which means none of the native apps will work on them, Every software needs time to get stable and since this is the first version expect lots of issues. Yes the built quality of tabs are impressive but thats not what matters in a gadget we are not in a beauty contest its the usability the biggest dis advantge W8 will have is apps as they will take time. Then we do not know the future roadmap windows never upgrades for free and has a very long update cycle and we already know none of the W7 devices can be upgraded to W8 and that could be the case in future to.
Again its a close enviourment and hence you will have very future options a perfect case example is I have an 2x and we all know LG is still to update it to 4 but because there are so many developers out there we have un official roms which will do it that will also be the case with Samsung note but wont with windows 8
To be frank if I have to look at anything other then Android then why not go in for IPad why would i gamble of W8 when know none of the windows versions have been perfect
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>< If you don't know something, why pretend you do. None of the w8 tabs are released yet (Oct 26th is d-day) and most of them are full version. Only a few are RT.
Well I am sure of the information I have given but may be you are not aware so my humble suggestion to you would be please go search the net and research before commenting you will know.
I bet by using the word full version you showed that you are the one who does not know what you are talking about there are two version of Windows
Please this review for dummies on different windows 8 versions may be it will help you understand windows 8 better
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-different-versions-of-windows-8.html
Now read this review and if you think even they do not know what they are talking about then search for many other review
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/samsung-ativ-tab-1094049/review
Also please review the statement made by Microsoft when they launched surface they have two versions RT based tablets which have been announced and a Pro version which will be launched which I was referring to
I never doubt anyones intellect but if do not agree with someone just put my point without disrespecting him but if some wants does that to me I am not the one who will hold back on him We should remember this is forum where we exchange views on technology so there is nothing to get personal about.
All I can say is after putting these facts to you I am a fool and you are the smart oen
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Well I am sure of the information I have given but may be you are not aware so my humble suggestion to you would be please go search the net and research before commenting you will know.
I bet by using the word full version you showed that you are the one who does not know what you are talking about there are two version of Windows
Please this review for dummies on different windows 8 versions may be it will help you understand windows 8 better
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-different-versions-of-windows-8.html
Now read this review and if you think even they do not know what they are talking about then search for many other review
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/samsung-ativ-tab-1094049/review
Also please review the statement made by Microsoft when they launched surface they have two versions RT based tablets which have been announced and a Pro version which will be launched which I was referring to
I never doubt anyones intellect but if do not agree with someone just put my point without disrespecting him but if some wants does that to me I am not the one who will hold back on him We should remember this is forum where we exchange views on technology so there is nothing to get personal about.
All I can say is after putting these facts to you I am a fool and you are the smart oen
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I think you are very confused about the upcoming Windows 8 tablets.
There will be tablets from the same manufacturers (e.g., Asus, Samsung, Acer, etc) running both Windows 8 RT and full Windows 8. For instance, the Series 5 and Series 8 Samsung tablets are going to be available at the launch of Windows 8 on October 26, and some of them will be little later (e.g., Acer's 510 that runs full Windows as well). In addition to the Clover-trail-based version, they'll also have tablets running the RT version.
If you are exclusively referring to MS Surface running RT (doubt it since you said "all the W8 tabs released are RT version"), then Surface Pro will be released early next year running full Windows 8.
Please rephrase your original comment/concern, so that we can understand what you'd like to discuss regarding this topic.
Thanks you pointed out flaws but by not getting personal
Read these reviews
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/samsung-ativ-tab-1094049/review
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57532972-94/samsung-unveils-windows-8-ultrabook-tablet-hybrids/
These more of laptop tablet hybrids rather then tablets and the costing is also high. they are intel based devices more like normal ultrabooks
New Galaxy Tab uses an Intel processor
Combined Galaxy and Ativ unveiling
Here's what I'm seeing with this news:
A. Samsung makes Galaxy/Ativ devices which are strikingly similar, possibly use same accessories
B. Samsung makes one device which runs both platforms, but can be purchased as each platform separately, each with slightly different hardware to match a price point (E.G. Galaxy tab $400 with 2GB RAM, Galaxy/Ativ $600 with 4GB RAM, keyboard dock):fingers-crossed: :good:
C. Samsung simply unveils separate devices, but the Galaxy is jailbroken, and since it runs on an Intel chip, Windows 8 can be installed via OEM license.:victory:
What do you think? Will any of it happen? I sure hope! This would be the ultimate device... even better than the Surface! :laugh:
PLEASE SAMSUNG??? :fingers-crossed:
UPDATE: GGGGAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!! SAMSUNG DID IT! The Samsung Ativ Q!
I know this might be a long shot but I am kind of hoping that they release one device that integrates both OS's into one, that would be very awesome and something i might buy
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AAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! ASUS HAS DONE IT! This is the most amazing thing ever, hopefully it's not phantomware (it sure doesn't look like it!). Asus today unveiled the Transformer Book Trio, which runs full Windows 8 on the keyboard dock, and Android on the tablet itself. It actually has two entirely separate systems, but they switch seamlessly. Unfortunately it's not two systems on one processor, meaning if this comes to market, it's gonna cost a small fortune! Anyway, here's the link! :laugh:
I think the trio is the exact opposite of seamless in my opinion.
It is pretty much a windows laptop with a dock for an android tablet which then becomes the screen.
I couldn't work on that. Working on an office document, pull the screen off for some portability at some point, windows and my document are now gone. Thanks for that Asus. That particular scenario could be alleviated with Google docs or similar but there are others problems like it that wouldnt be so easily fixable.
In my opinion. If you want to put two operating systems on the same device then just frigging dual boot. Plenty of atom netbooks used to dual boot between windows 7 starter and android, sisters one does.
Asus Trio
Well, as excited as I am for this - I have to say, if the tablet is undocked, and wont run Windows 8, it is a deal breaker for me. If they made it so that I could dual boot Android / Windows 8 off the tablet, plus dock it into the keyboard for WIndows 8 + dedicated GPU, I would be sold, but to only run Android on the tablet is just plain stupid. Ill wait until I can have a true hybrid device that is not compromised. I feel that they are coming, they just need a bit more work by the OEM's
Well yes this stuff is coming but I honestly think being able to dual boot OS is a silly feature for a consumer release product, who wants to be switching operating system just to run [other] apps on another OS? If you want android and windows in one tablet use bluestacks, if that isn't good enough stop fooling around and either get one or the other or pick one that will allow you to configure dual boot yourself.
Samsung just announced their hybrid tablet!!! :laugh:
Samsung is the largest tablet vendor outside of Apple, so it's noteworthy to see what it brings on the Windows side. Ignoring the AIO/laptop varieties, Sammy's sole Windows tablet, the Ativ Tab 3, disappoints at $699 (w/ keyboard cover) and only a Z2760 Clovertrail instead of Bay Trail.
Unless Samsung has more announcements in store, I don't see a Haswell tablet (or even hybrid) model. In fact, there isn't a hybrid except for the Franken-Q slider, which isn't a mainstream model.
If these are all of Samsung's entries for Windows this year, it's a fairly anemic line-up.
Hey guys was just browsing the black friday deals on walmart and they are selling a 89 dollar 7 in tablet with a intel medfield atom chip. It is running a x86 version of android according to http://tabtimes.com/news/ittech-os-...er-hps-7-inch-mesquite-android-tablet-sell-89. Looks interesting as it is a sub 100 x86 tablet but it is a little lite on other specs. Anybody have any more info on this device? Any advice on linux on these things? Thanx guys
Hope im posting this in the right section as it is news but I have questions. Feel free to move it to the right section.
Interesting, what's the screen resolution? I'm guessing 1024x600, but 1280x800 would be nice to have.
However, most people will be better off by spending a bit more and getting the Venue 8 for $129.
My biggest question is, how easy will it be to get Windows or linux running on it? What will the driver situation be?
We will have to wait and see
Yeah drivers are my biggest worry, that and ram. The x86 port of android is kinda weak. I've used one before and while the system itself is ok good luck finding apps for it that work. I know this sounds sad but im getting it basicly to play some old games that dont quite work right in dosbox .
Hello,
Can you tell me a good tablet with
1) 8 inches screen
2) SIM slot
that costs less than 200 Euros where Ubuntu touch has been tested and can be installed?
thanks
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No.
Most community efforts came to naught and lie abandoned. Additionally, even the officiail images from Canonical have not addressed data SIM for a tablet.
Try getting a used Nexus 7 LTE and using the images built by Vojtech Bocek which can even be updated OTA from that community member's server. See this section of the Devices Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_ports_w.2BAC8_system-image_server
In fact you should read the whole Wiki package. Research is a great tool.
What you ask for in your original post just does not exist. I've offered the most workable alternative to the spec you cite.
Ubuntu on Android
Is it possible to run ubuntu on an Acer A3?
I've not seen anyone tackle that port...
Hello guys
I want to buy the tab 4 t230 mainly for reading pdf files
is it a good tablet and how about its performance ? I don't want it to be all laggy
thanks for your help
I don't know about the 230, but I have the 330 model and reading PDF files, and any other sort of document is a overall good experience for me. One could make the argument that bigger is better, but for me having the 8" model in horizontal or even vertical layout has worked quite well when it came to looking at notes, editing documents or even reading textbooks for college lectures/classes. I haven't noticed any lag when it came to just looking at a file, only when it came to running graphics intensive games.
(Quick summary) I use the 8" tablet daily and love it. recently, I purchased two textbooks from the play store and reading them and other PDF files work perfectly. :good:
-still it's always good to browse around.
Update: Before I made the purchase on the 8" model I read around that if you have a little bit extra it was a good idea to buy the 8" model over the 7" cause of the different processors inside. So it's all about how much you're willing to spend.
aliess said:
Hello guys
I want to buy the tab 4 t230 mainly for reading pdf files
is it a good tablet and how about its performance ? I don't want it to be all laggy
thanks for your help
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Edit. I would not buy the 7...
I bought the 8 and the below is for the 8...sorry. I forgot to mention that.
The tab in itself is decent, but with samsung pushy BS Apps the tab is slower...
However, should you buy the tab >> Root device with Towel root >> Freeze / uninstall all bloatware >> Install nova launcher >> Disable animations system wide >> Move larger apps to SD >> Presto = You've got a good tab!
Samsung software is not needed whatsoever. You can get a huge performance advantage by removing bloatwares and providing near android stock performance with nova launcher and animations disabled.
srsly no, i am still unable to root it, for the same price i would suggest a nexus 7
I rooted it out of the box a night or two ago. Just got it.
Same here, root capabilities were available a few weeks to a month after it was available for purchase back in june. I bought my tablet back in May when it first came out. However, I would still agree that a nexus 7 would be a good purchase if you just want to use a tablet for reading PDFs. Actually the Nexus 7 2013 edition is on sale for $159 on Ebay. The Nexus is still Googles current-gen device as of now and has many accessories and what not available, while it took months before I could even buy a cheap case for this tablet ( Better cases and accessories are out now, just not a plethora made specifically for the Tab4).
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I rooted it out of the box a night or two ago. Just got it.
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towelroot just freeze after i click the button, are you on the lastest firmware?
edit: sry didnt read about you got the 8" ver, if op insist on getting the tab 4 dont get the 7" t230
also i dont know how long samsung will support this tablet, nexus 7 is confrimed to get andriod L, and like Lilchampsean said its hard to get cases and screen protector for this tablet
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towelroot just freeze after i click the button, are you on the lastest firmware?
edit: sry didnt read about you got the 8" ver, if op insist on getting the tab 4 dont get the 7" t230
also i dont know how long samsung will support this tablet, nexus 7 is confrimed to get andriod L, and like Lilchampsean said its hard to get cases and screen protector for this tablet
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What is your device model? My tab is the 8 inch one. The 8 and 10 have similar specs and processor whereas the 7" tab has a marvel based processor and thus is different methodology to root.
Also, Yes I did update to latest firmware on my tab. Opened the box, ran updates, and rooted all about 3 days ago.
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What is your device model? My tab is the 8 inch one. The 8 and 10 have similar specs and processor whereas the 7" tab has a marvel based processor and thus is different methodology to root.
Also, Yes I did update to latest firmware on my tab. Opened the box, ran updates, and rooted all about 3 days ago.
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thx for replying, mine is the 7 inch SM-T230, guess i will wait awhile
I do too know if I am speaking out of place, but can you return it and get the 8? Fr9. What is love ready Modders are having issues with the 7. The 8 and 10 are where it's at. I believe the 7 will always be sluggish.
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I do too know if I am speaking out of place, but can you return it and get the 8? Fr9. What is love ready Modders are having issues with the 7. The 8 and 10 are where it's at. I believe the 7 will always be sluggish.
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yeah its a gift from the telephone company, if i get to pick i prolly will go with the 10 inch one, or the new sony z3tc
Ah, you might be out of luck until they can find a better root method for the marvel processor in your model..
Thiugh, reportedly if you go to the towel root thread it has worked for 7 inch users.