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Root de la Vega (doesnt trigger knox) possible to port N900/N9005

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Hello,
As @Dumbo53 has mentioned below posts, there is a root method by the developer @designgears and it seems that this root method does NOT trigger the knox flag.
Unfortunately, it is just for the AT&T Note 3 devices.
Maybe someone could port this root method for our international N900 and N9005 model devices?
Root de la Vega:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
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Hello there,
I wanted to share something from Chainfire's Auto-Root thread.
Chainfire has mentioned:
Using this root method sets current binary and system status to custom. Additionally, it will also trigger the KNOX warranty void status.
This device store the traditional flash counter. Nor is is possible with Triangle Away to reset the current binary status. You will need to flash a stock kernel and stock recovery to reset the binary status.
The KNOX warranty status change is permanent, and a service center may deny warranty based on this flag - even if the other flags are reset correctly. The KNOX flag being tripped may also prevent certain Samsung KNOX features from working (enterprise security features).
If this is something you care about, use a root method not based on custom kernels or recoveries, like a modified system partition. These are possible, but I don't personally make them, so look around!
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So my question is simple:
Is there any talented developer who can look at the system partition on the devices N900/9005 and somehow to look if he can modify it to root without triggering the knox counter. Iaw chainfire's post, it seems to be possible, but we need a talented developer to look for this
I would be really so happy, if it can be done this way...

No because if you do anything you alter the md5 checksum m8 and knox watch this
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BlueChris said:
No because if you do anything you alter the md5 checksum m8 and knox watch this
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 4
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I was talking according to Chainfire, dude. He just showed us that there could "may be" a way to root without knox would recognise this.
I think may be knox watches only the bootloader and recovery situation (if it is custom or official).
Chainfire's root method includes to flash first insecure recovery and after root flashes back the official recovery. During this process knox recognise the shortly time with the insecure recovery and the counter goes to 0x1. But iaw Chainfire's post, i think if someone could root without touching the recovery or kernel, it could be possible not to trigger the knox during the root process.

I don't think we will have a way to bypass it. I think once you get root it will still trigger it.
Funny how this is something from an Android device and not an iDevice.
Guess Samsung got tired of fixing devices after someone oc the hell out of it!
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There already is a root method that doesn't trigger the Knox flag by designgears, but as of now only for At&t Note 3 (Root de la Vega). It however only gives root, not a custom recovery. There are already people begging him to port it to other devices and he seems to be willing to do them one by one.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317

Dumbo53 said:
There already is a root method that doesn't trigger the Knox flag by designgears, but as of now only for At&t Note 3 (Root de la Vega). It however only gives root, not a custom recovery. There are already people begging him to port it to other devices and he seems to be willing to do them one by one.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317
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Thanks mate, i will also look to his thread and beg him for n900

Sounds promising. Don't really need a custom recovery thanks to xposed.
Sent from my SM-N9005 now Free

Knox problem thanks (lovelesss)

we are waiting for n900 please

n900 I want to wait for the Root de la Vega.

What about N9005?

vinokirk said:
What about N9005?
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+1
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vinokirk said:
What about N9005?
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Yeah I can add N9005 also as request on this topic.
Changing the subject of this thread just a sec

I don't have any information showing Knox flag in Odin mode, Exynos SM-N900. Does this mean my phone doesn't have this flag?

Rooting SGS4

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I am really confused as always I used to find the thread for rooting my SGS4 but with the new firmware upgrade (Russia region), I can not find how to root it, and I am not upgrading it as it is important for me. Specification I am attaching (from similar updraded phone already) .
it should be PDA: I9500XXUFNF4CSC: I9500SERFNE3 MODEM: I9500XXUFNA6 (I can only find with PDA I9500XXUFNB4 in this site).
I would certainly appreciate your guidance in this matter, as only after being sure I had the needed .tar and odin, as I always root it with ODIN being the simplest and safest way, I always upgrade via KIES.
I was directed to post here.
Thank You in advance

Just use the normal rooting.
cf auto root or towelroot.
Firmware doesn't matter.

I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/

towelroot
fcornejo said:
I rooted mine with towelroot
https://towelroot.com/
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I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you

avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app

avadis99 said:
I think I will stick to same Odin and CF-Root mode I used so much, trying not to try different things as such.
Thank you
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Use towelroot if you don't want to lose your warranty (because you will void konx )

Trigger Knos
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply

Warranty
fcornejo said:
CR-Root triggers knos flax 0x1... towelroot no...
towelroot does not need odin... just download and install the app
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I am not so sure about towelroot never used it that is why I am avaoiding, triggering Knox I do not know what it means? Anyway when you root your phone you lose warranty so what difference does it make?

avadis99 said:
Actually I have been reading about this Knox trigger, what does it mean? Isn't there a way to "untrigger" it afterwards.
Thank you again and again very kind of you to reply
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knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...

Thank you for the explanatiom as such it means it does not harm the phone or prevent future upgrades? If so I prefer to root as I had done before. I have no intention of downgrading but surely would like to continue upgrading. I always use my rooted phone with Knox frozen
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fcornejo said:
knox flag 0x1 is a e-fuse which burns out after the software is mofidied... there is no way known of setting it back to 0x0.
Here in Poland, there was a discussion about knox flag 0x1 and warrinty with Samsung officials, as the flag is also triggered when trying to downgrade your original firmware, example from 4.4.1 to 4.3.... and on tweeter Samsung Poland stated that the warranty is not lost when the flag is 0x1.. but is better to have it untouched...
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Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN

avadis99 said:
Actually I had rooted it before with ODIn already when it had 4.4.2 again, so it is already triggered? Is there a way to check it? Also if it does not prevent future updates I prefer to continue with ODIN
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You can check by entering to download mode...

One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
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avadis99 said:
One more question and really thank u for u r time.
Will it effect Knox tripping for the future updates? Besides warranty voiding does it have any other repercussions?
Sent from my GT-I9500 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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It will only affect your ability to downgrade......you won't be able to with official firmware. Upgrading is still possible and the Knox flag being triggered will not affect you upgrading but will never re-set the trigger.

Thank you so much
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Galaxy Note 3 N9005 Root With Out Tripping Knox ?

Hi as the title says how do i root my Galaxy note 3 N9005 without tripping Knox ? Also i know i can use towel root but i heard if the kernel build is before 2nd June then towel-root will not trip Knox my kernel date is 25th June ?? Any suggestions plz knox must not get tripped plz.. Thanks people

Read a little here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54415505&postcount=100 .You must search a little bit here.Are a lot of discussion about this problem.

Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?

Laamis said:
Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?
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Rooting with CF-Auto-Root has tripped the Knox counter of your Note 3. Congrats.

nitrous² said:
Rooting with CF-Auto-Root has tripped the Knox counter of your Note 3. Congrats.
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lolz... oh yea?
Please tell me, what does this tripping Knox counter mean?
( sorry for stupid question... i answer it by myself... with using google)
http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
I was in an impression that I can still unroot this, without too much of hassle?
(Last time I checked, it showed 0x0)

Laamis said:
lolz... oh yea?
Please tell me, what does this tripping Knox counter mean?
( sorry for stupid question... i answer it by myself... with using google)
http://www.kingoapp.com/help/samsung-knox-counter.htm
I was in an impression that I can still unroot this, without too much of hassle?
(Last time I checked, it showed 0x0)
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It's not possible for your Knox flag to show 0x0 after flashing CF-Auto-Roo. As soon as you flash unsigned images to your Note 3, it'll trip knox and you may lose your warranty.

N1NJATH3ORY said:
Hi as the title says how do i root my Galaxy note 3 N9005 without tripping Knox ? Also i know i can use towel root but i heard if the kernel build is before 2nd June then towel-root will not trip Knox my kernel date is 25th June ?? Any suggestions plz knox must not get tripped plz.. Thanks people
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orly_mihai said:
Read a little here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54415505&postcount=100 .You must search a little bit here.Are a lot of discussion about this problem.
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Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...oot-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150
it takes 5 minutes, including reading OP, downloading and flashing

towelroot
go google for towelroot and download it! install as apk, simple and easy:good:

Laamis said:
Without tripping Knox ? What do you mean with this ?
I just recently rooted my Galaxy Note 3 N9005 with Odin 3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx-smn9005.tar.md5
No problem with Knox, allthough it intervenes when starting the SuperSU
What u had in mind?
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i mean i don't wont Knox counter tripped it has to stay on 0x0 after root access.. Also i heard if i flash roms after root that trips Knox count is there any truth to that ? Thanks

nitrous² said:
It's not possible for your Knox flag to show 0x0 after flashing CF-Auto-Roo. As soon as you flash unsigned images to your Note 3, it'll trip knox and you may lose your warranty.
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You're right it seems :silly:
However I don't find this very offensive, as I offcourse accepted the risk before rooting. Allthough, I wish I'd have read more about which bloat I shouldn't have removed... that damn MagazineHome.apk is really pain in the ass. After I deleted it, --> stock email FC every time new message comes... and what really sucks, I was unable to restore or install MyMagazine or MagazineHome.apk (with or without .odex) to get rid of this annoying crash messages.
Not sure yet why I was unable to reinstall those... is there different versions of them on Verizons Note 3 than in my galaxy note 3 n9005 ?
And one thing I havent yet learned is, whether the Knox is avoiding me from doing these restores or managing to reinstall those properly? (help anyone?! please )

[Q] Optimal way to root G900F? Sticky suggests using rootkit; is Towelroot better?

Just got a new S5 and I've been out of the scene for a while.
Can someone point me in the direction of some up to date info/guide? I've been scouring xda for 30 mins now and can't figure out the best way to get Recovery and Root.
Bonus question: I've read that using a rootkit irreversibly increases a counter from 0x0 to 0x1 whereas TowelRoot does not. Is this true?

check your kernel version first. if its date is lower than 3rd June then TowelRoot will not trigger KNOX. but if its later than 3rd June any method used to root will trigger KNOX to 0x1
Custom kernel and recovery are out of the question. They will trigger KNOX no matter whatever you do as of now.

wajiman said:
check your kernel version first. if its date is lower than 3rd June then TowelRoot will not trigger KNOX. but if its later than 3rd June any method used to root will trigger KNOX to 0x1
Custom kernel and recovery are out of the question. They will trigger KNOX no matter whatever you do as of now.
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Thursday May 8th. Does this mean I should go with TowelRoot? Or are you saying it doesn't matter as I intend to enable recovery anyway?

kelevra7 said:
Thursday May 8th. Does this mean I should go with TowelRoot? Or are you saying it doesn't matter as I intend to enable recovery anyway?
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you can use towelroot, knox wont be tripped as the kernel version is less than 3rd june.
but if you flash custom recovery or kernel knox will get tripped as of now. And as you intend to enable recovery anyway, so it means you are willing to get knox tirpped hence you can use any way to root

I can confirm that towelroot will not trip knox on G900F.
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wajiman said:
you can use towelroot, knox wont be tripped as the kernel version is less than 3rd june.
but if you flash custom recovery or kernel knox will get tripped as of now. And as you intend to enable recovery anyway, so it means you are willing to get knox tirpped hence you can use any way to root
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Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?

kelevra7 said:
Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?
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Yup, all non stock stuff like custom recovery`s and kernels will trip KNOX to 0x1 permanantly if flashed with (Mobile) Odin.

kelevra7 said:
Thanks for the clarification. So I'm now going to install TowelRoot, and then install TWRP from the play store. You're saying that it is only after I install TWRP that KNOX will get tripped? Even though TWRP is now official (in the play store)?
Have I got the order right?
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AFAIK yes

gee2012 said:
Yup, all non stock stuff like custom recovery`s and kernels will trip KNOX to 0x1 permanantly if flashed with (Mobile) Odin.
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Aaaah. That makes sense. I've just seen that in SuperSU I can disable KNOX. If I do that, install CM11 and reenable KNOX will it still show 0x1?
Would you also mind confirming that I've got the right idea about what comes next:
1. Install towelroot.
2. Install SuperSU.
3. Update SU binaries (disabling KNOX in the process).
4. Install TWRP from Playstore
5. Flash CM11
Do I need to back up my EFS partition first or will this be covered by restoring to Stock ROM (should I need to do so)?
Also this process means I don't even need Odin. Is this correct?!

kelevra7 said:
Aaaah. That makes sense. I've just seen that in SuperSU I can disable KNOX. If I do that, install CM11 and reenable KNOX will it still show 0x1?
Would you also mind confirming that I've got the right idea about what comes next:
1. Install towelroot.
2. Install SuperSU.
3. Update SU binaries (disabling KNOX in the process).
4. Install TWRP from Playstore
5. Flash CM11
Do I need to back up my EFS partition first or will this be covered by restoring to Stock ROM (should I need to do so)?
Also this process means I don't even need Odin. Is this correct?!
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Step 4 will always trip KNOX unfortunately. If you only root like with steps 1 to 3 on roms with kernels build before june 3rd KNOX will remain 0x0. You simply cannot flash custom recovery`s without tripping KNOX (it will remain active and detect security breaches).

gee2012 said:
Step 4 will always trip KNOX unfortunately. If you only root like steps 1 to 3 on roms with kernels build before june 3rd KNOX will remain 0x0. You simply cannot flash custom recovery`s without tripping KNOX (it will remain active and detect security breaches).
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I see. So there is no way to maintain my warranty if I want to install a custom ROM? Shall I go ahead and disable KNOX through SuperSU?

kelevra7 said:
I see. So there is no way to maintain my warranty if I want to install a custom ROM? Shall I go ahead and disable KNOX through SuperSU?
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Look here for a KNOX explanation (different levels) http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/. You can root your decice with TR and disable KNOX notifications showing up and still keep warranty. Flashing custom recovery`s will trip KNOX.
Warranty is also region dependent, for instance rooting a device in the EU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801 doesn`t void warranty by law. Look how rooting is handled in your region.

gee2012 said:
Look here for a KNOX explanation (different levels) http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/. You can root your decice with TR and disable KNOX notifications showing up and still keep warranty. Flashing custom recovery`s will trip KNOX.
Warranty is also region dependent, for instance rooting a device in the EU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801 doesn`t void warranty by law. Look how rooting is handled in your region.
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Thanks this is a great link. Very helpful. I have subsequently 'disabled' KNOX through SuperSU even though I'm doubtful this will really do anything with regard to my warranty. I'm already set on flashing a custom ROM so flashing TWRP is a must for me.
P.S. I've only just realised CM11 isn't available for the S5. Can you recommend any custom ROMS other than Omega and Alliance? What do you use?

towelroot wont work,

hi guys i just got an s4 a few hours ago the first thing i'm trying to do is root it, what i understand is towel.apk is only way to root without voiding knox. I tried towelroot it says my device is unsupported?
Galaxy S4 i9505 lte UK 4.2.2 XXUDMH6
can anyone help?

iamflamez said:
hi guys i just got an s4 a few hours ago the first thing i'm trying to do is root it, what i understand is towel.apk is only way to root without voiding knox. I tried towelroot it says my device is unsupported?
Galaxy S4 i9505 lte UK 4.2.2 XXUDMH6
can anyone help?
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Yeah.
1. Towelroot is for root android 4.3 or higher.
2. You can use CF-Auto-Root without void the warranty coz you are using android 4.2.2. This is the first firmware of the Galaxy s4 and it hadn't KNOX. You can flash any custom recovery too without KNOX.

Joku1981 said:
Yeah.
1. Towelroot is for root android 4.3 or higher.
2. You can use CF-Auto-Root without void the warranty coz you are using android 4.2.2. This is the first firmware of the Galaxy s4 and it hadn't KNOX. You can flash any custom recovery too without void the warranty.
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Actually I do have Knox, My counter says knox 0x0

iamflamez said:
Actually I do have Knox, My counter says knox 0x0
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I think you are wrong. Go to download mode and add me one screenshot of what appears there. I added one screenshot when I was using android 4.2.2. I promiss u that rooting your device with CF-Auto-root your KNOX will be off anyway.

Joku1981 said:
I think you are wrong. Go to download mode and add me one screenshot of what appears there. I added one screenshot when I was using android 4.2.2. I promiss u that rooting your device with CF-Auto-root your KNOX will be off anyway.
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Sorry but your info Is wrong, you were on an earlier, 4.2.2

iamflamez said:
Sorry but your info Is wrong, you were on an earlier, 4.2.2
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If you don't know what is the difference btw Knox and binary flash counter isn't my problem. One nice guide is in this website. Read and learn a little more.
* EDIT: This root process may increase binary flash counter, not change KNOX status. Read a little more about TRIANGLE AWAY too.

Joku1981 said:
If you don't know what is the difference btw Knox and binary flash counter isn't my problem. One nice guide is in this website. Read and learn a little more.
* EDIT: This root process may increase binary flash counter, not change KNOX status. Read a little more about TRIANGLE AWAY too.
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Cf root will trigger my knox though. I have used cf root and triangle away many times on my s2 and my s3. I know the difference between knox and binary. Believe me your 4.2.2 I don't think was mh6, must have been earlier 4.2.2. This is my download mode.

iamflamez said:
Cf root will trigger my knox though. I have used cf root and triangle away many times on my s2 and my s3. I know the difference between knox and binary. Believe me your 4.2.2 I don't think was mh6, must have been earlier 4.2.2. This is my download mode.
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KNOX started in android 4.3. You can read THIS article for your info :highfive:. You can try IROOT app too.

Joku1981 said:
KNOX started in android 4.3. You can read THIS article for your info :highfive:. You can try IROOT app too.
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Sorry my friend but once again you are wrong! Knox started in 4.2.2
I know you are trying to help but YOU need to read more before giving advice, because if anybody listened to your advice they would void the knox counter.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46189882&postcount=1