Since every single Online Unlock code FAILD to give me an unlock code, im thinking of doing this in the one of the WE UNLOCK ALL PHONES shops in the high street...
anyone tryed ? dose it work ? do thay F*ck up firmware anyhow that may couse problems with future flashing...
also, anyone can give me any ditails on what exactly thay going to do ?
if they would have a verry expensive version of nspro it would be possible..
vladimir2989 said:
Since every single Online Unlock code FAILD to give me an unlock code, im thinking of doing this in the one of the WE UNLOCK ALL PHONES shops in the high street...
anyone tryed ? dose it work ? do thay F*ck up firmware anyhow that may couse problems with future flashing...
also, anyone can give me any ditails on what exactly thay going to do ?
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You walk in and tell them you want an unlock code for your HD2 and they go out the back and make a call to their contact at the code supplier who contacts the network operator database and requests the code. If they have the right credentials the code is sold to them, they sell it to the man in the shop and he sells it to you.
The shop may let you think that "they" have unlocked it, but, it's not possible to do that with some boxes and wires in the same way as for other makes and models. At least not as far as I know. If the code is genuine and accepted by the phone then it's unlocked and there are no side effects.
BUT, before you do that have a look at
http://unlock-now.com/
I used them and the cost was minimal and I had my code in 13 minutes.
As an aside I take it the you have a non UK voda model as all the UK Voda kit on contract is already unlocked.
However, I guess you already checked that?
In a lot of cases with the right cable and trade software they can unlock phones that follow certain standards. Thats why you can have it unlocked without them needing to put another sim in the phone like you have to when you get a remote code.
i have tryed several websites that do unlocking, i jyst get email next day sayimg sorry thay can't do it... and refund money.
i think is becouse after HTC service thay changed IMEI, and even thou i give websiiets new number thay cant find it...
i complaind to HTC said that i can't unlock it and O2 says its not thair phone (coz IMEI different) and thay alredy unloced my HD2 (this was not 100% true
but HTC agreed to send me an unlock code and after week of waiting i got it this morning
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Hello guys
In many threads, I saw that unlocking the bootloader won't void the warranty but in the live chat they have a different opinion. Take a look at my conversation and what they told me (I'm Anastasios and motorola is the other guy)
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Santhosh: Hi, my name is Santhosh. How may I help you?
Anastasios: Hello, I want to know about voiding the warranty. Does the warranty breaks if you unlock the bootloader?
Santhosh: I will do my best to help you with this. Before we move any further, would you please help me confirm your email, location and phone we are dealing with?
Anastasios: My email is tasos****@gmail.com, Location Greece and the phone is moto e 2nd gen 4g xt1524
Santhosh: Thanks for the information.
Santhosh: Yes unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty of the mobile.
Anastasios: But take a look here. http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
Anastasios: it says that unlocking the bootloader isn't a sufficient reason to breaks the warranty in the europe
Santhosh: Please go through the agreement details when you start the bootloader unlocking it clearly states the warranty void.
Anastasios: so, you say that the stuff the europe counsil decides are not of your bussiness. Here the official article about the rights of the consumer http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:31999L0044&from=EN
Santhosh: Please go through the warranty policy information on this page.
Santhosh: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Anastasios: Yeah, but you still did not gave me the wanted anwser. The Europe Laws say different things that you claim. So what shoud I do? Should I listen to the europe or to you (motorola)?
Santhosh: Only when you accept these conditions and go to the next page you can unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty of the mobile.
Santhosh: You can go through the legal terms here. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/ci/fattach/get/741421/1385047216/redirect/1/filename/Boot_revised.pdf
Anastasios: In every single site that it is for the unlocking part, claim that unlocking the bootloader won't void the warranty if you live in Europe. Is that wrong?
Santhosh: We request you check our official website conditions to unlock the bootloader.
Anastasios: ok then thanks.You won a thread in the XDA forum about how bad are you in terms of warranty and legal stuff. BYE
You have disconnected.
lol now tell me which company allow their users to unlock their bootloader without voiding the warianty?
first example, Sony:
Voiding the warranty
If you unlock the boot loader, you may void the warranty of your device and/or any warranty from your operator. See your device’s warranty statement for details. Additionally, due to the modified device software, Sony’s repair network will likely have to replace key components before it can properly test, repair and verify your device using our repair tools and software. Consequently, if Sony performs a warranty repair, Sony will likely charge you a significant service fee for the additional costs caused by your modification of the software.
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lol now tell me which company allow their users to unlock their bootloader without voiding the warianty?
first example, Sony:
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I wont disagree but in the unlock threads it says that in Europe the warranty cant be broken that easy
correct.
The companys can write their own warranty rules of course.
But relevant is only what is given here by european and local country law if they sell stuff here.
So, the law overrules their own warranty if there are any differences, esp. in area of the private consumer.
In B2B contracts in contrast, the contract part like warranty can overwrite the llaw, as I once understood.
EB20XY said:
correct.
The companys can write their own warranty rules of course.
But relevant is only what is given here by european and local country law if they sell stuff here.
So, the law overrules their own warranty if there are any differences, esp. in area of the private consumer.
In B2B contracts in contrast, the contract part like warranty can overwrite the llaw, as I once understood.
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So If I unlock my moto I will have the warranty?
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So If I unlock my moto I will have the warranty?
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Depends on where you live. I had s4 with knox tripped. But phone completely died. Couldn't access anything except qcom usb. I'm 100% sure they still could look if it was tripped but I doubt the could say its your fault because you did something wrong.
Same was with my G3 just died but I don't know if I was rooted then.
Though blame people for unlocking bootloader to upgrade Motorola E 2nd Gen should not affect it (theoretically) since you flash their system which only hasn't reach your country. Well I'll see what they say about it. If it wasn't for the waterproof I Would risk it to fix the sim reader myself.
Now I won't so hope warranty will be cover this. Ill stay tuned. and yes I have my bootloader unlocked. And warranty should cover this up for two years.
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I'm not sure if I'm in the right forum for this but I don't know where else to go with it. Long story short, I bought this TMobile locked Samsung s7 edge from a local guy who said he bought it outright no contract. He didn't say it was s locked I assumed it was unlocked (yeah...I know) anyway I use a different cell phon carrier which I won't work. I've called tmobile 4x and they can't/won't unlock it but they t ok me the IMEI is good. But the guy will not contact me back about getting the phone unlocked...I think out my money and options. I was t old that it needs to be unlocked remotely not just a code I paid a site to try the code and they couldn't do it.
Any advice/help or experience with this kind of situation?
You can check here in case it was bought from samsung by original seller - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3592266
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The guy I bought it from said he bought it outright, no contract and when I contacted him about not being able to unlock it he said when he asked tmobile about it that could not find it in their system and I'd have to get it unlocked online. I've tried several sites already and no one does it remotely.
Try calling TMobile and they should unlock it right away. If they won't do it, you might need to contact the person who purchased the phone and tell them to give tmobile a call. Clean IMEI does not mean it is still carrier locked. It just means the phone isnt marked as lost/stolen. My S7 Edge won't unlock in the app even though I am already out of contract. After I called them, they did something in their system and instructed me to reboot then try again, and it unlocked in the unlock app directly. "Unlock Codes" DOES NOT work with tmobile s7 as you are required to do it in the app.
Hi. I want to ask you if the warranty still exists for hardware parts like screen and charging port I m rooted. Has anyone any on warranty repair experience? My screen has a big yellow shadow on the upper right side and in every corner. Also charging port doesn't support fast charge anymore. Phone charges slower than a turtle. Also after Nougat update I have some WiFi losses. I m on stock Nougat.
Thanks in advanced.
Moto can and will refuse to work on any device that has the bootloader unlocked.
It depends on where you live, in my country repair shops generally don't check bootloader status because they're getting money from repairs. Few years before I was playing with my unlocked xperia and I killed bootloader - repair shop changed my mootherboard for free no quesion asked.
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It depends on where you live, in my country repair shops generally don't check bootloader status because they're getting money from repairs. Few years before I was playing with my unlocked xperia and I killed bootloader - repair shop changed my mootherboard for free no quesion asked.
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No legit shop that does regular business with Moto will do this repair... because when they submit for reimbursement for the work to Moto and the SN or IMEI is checked, it will come back flagged as unlocked and the shop doesn't get paid.
Moto is SUPER strict on this policy, it is all over their documents and things you have to agree to when you unlock your device... Once the code is issue, you are voluntarily agreeing to forfeiting your warranty. The ONLY time this doesn't apply is in some EU countries to do local laws specifically about this.
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Hi. I want to ask you if the warranty still exists for hardware parts like screen and charging port I m rooted. Has anyone any on warranty repair experience? My screen has a big yellow shadow on the upper right side and in every corner. Also charging port doesn't support fast charge anymore. Phone charges slower than a turtle. Also after Nougat update I have some WiFi losses. I m on stock Nougat.
Thanks in advanced.
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Technically no. All the stuff you agreed to when you requested the unlock token voided the warranty. When the device was new a Moto forum admin posted a slightly friendlier interpretation: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X-Pure-Moto-X-Style/Bootloader-Policy-re-Warranty-for-Pure-Style/m-p/3202233#M5570.
However, most experiences I've heard people relay on here involve Moto outright refusing to touch devices with an unlocked bootloader, even when customers were willing to pay for repair and not trying to collect on a warranty claim. Elevating the issue in their forums might get you some traction with a knowledgeable employee instead of front-line customer support drones, but I wouldn't get your hopes up. By most accounts Lenovo's customer service is #%[email protected]
Thank you all for your replies. Seems like I m gonna sell it for a carrot.
I 'm back again.
I downgrade from nougat to MM, and then i did an update for MM.
While the phone was updating suddenly it crashed and never turned on again.
Computer recognize it with a mysterious code.
It's rooted. I called motorola and i asked for help.
They told me its in a 2 years EU warranty when they checked my IMEI, and that i ve got 1 month left.
After that, i asked them in which cases my smartphone isn't covered from that warranty and they told me only if the screen or motherboard are broken. Which are not.
They are sending me a courier tomorrow to receive it.
Any ideas? Should i send it or should i wait for a blank file to restore it on my own? They may charge me or they may repair it in warranty?
Thanks for your help!
In EU you should send it for warranty repair.
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html @Psadim
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In EU you should send it for warranty repair.
http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html @Psadim
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Thank you very much, if they tell me anything about root, i ll send them this.
I had recently rooted my moto g5 plus and due to battery issues had to relock the bootloader before taking it to the service center.
After examining the device, the service center asked me if it was rooted earlier to which I replied Yes and then they told me that the device has void its warranty since the device was rooted.
Now that I had relocked the bootloader, can I not claim the device warranty now?
Please show me a direction here.
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I had recently rooted my moto g5 plus and due to battery issues had to relock the bootloader before taking it to the service center.
After examining the device, the service center asked me if it was rooted earlier to which I replied Yes and then they told me that the device has void its warranty since the device was rooted.
Now that I had relocked the bootloader, can I not claim the device warranty now?
Please show me a direction here.
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I don't think you can get your warranty back. Some say that once you issue an unlock code, your warranty gets void even if you use the code to unlock bootloader or not. I do hope that you get your warranty back and get your phone fixed. Anyways, you could've just told them that it wasn't rooted
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I don't think you can get your warranty back. Some say that once you issue an unlock code, your warranty gets void even if you use the code to unlock bootloader or not. I do hope that you get your warranty back and get your phone fixed. Anyways, you could've just told them that it wasn't rooted
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My bad, I couldn't lie it to them coz they had evidence that the bootloader was unlocked earlier.
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My bad, I couldn't lie it to them coz they had evidence that the bootloader was unlocked earlier.
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Was it locked when you gave the phone to them?
I remember I had a Moto E2 which was running a custom ROM and the phone was in warranty and when it's speaker started going bonkers, I just flashed the fastboot ROM and locked the bootloader (I think so) and took it to service center and they fixed it for free. Actually, the speaker grill had accumulated some dust and that was interfering with the sound output so they opened the phone and cleaned the speaker.
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Was it locked when you gave the phone to them?
I remember I had a Moto E2 which was running a custom ROM and the phone was in warranty and when it's speaker started going bonkers, I just flashed the fastboot ROM and locked the bootloader (I think so) and took it to service center and they fixed it for free. Actually, the speaker grill had accumulated some dust and that was interfering with the sound output so they opened the phone and cleaned the speaker.
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Yes relocked it last night and flashed the stock fastboot images as well.
First they did the same in the holy name of software update and then finally giving up to the final conclusion that the battery needed replacement. I left the mobile with them until they told me on call that they'll be charging Rs 1500 for the replacement since the device was rooted. Sometimes even I think that had I lied to them, they might had considered replacing it at no extra cost.
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Yes relocked it last night and flashed the stock fastboot images as well.
First they did the same in the holy name of software update and then finally giving up to the final conclusion that the battery needed replacement. I left the mobile with them until they told me on call that they'll be charging Rs 1500 for the replacement since the device was rooted. Sometimes even I think that had I lied to them, they might had considered replacing it at no extra cost.
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I wonder what would changing the battery has to do with a fault on the screen?
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I wonder what would changing the battery has to do with a fault on the screen?
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It's actually a battery issue
I don't think you understand... you VOLUNTARILY gave up your warranty when the unlock code was issued, regardless of whether you actually unlocked the bootloader or not. You cannot "get your warranty back" in any way. Did you not read ANY of the multiple warnings when you unlocked your phone, it is presented very clearly at least 3 times before you actually commit to getting the code.
It depends on the country you live in. A company can't get you to accept something like that and make you give up a right given to you by law. Check your local consumer laws, you might still be able to get it fixed under warranty.
I know that in the EU, Australia, New Zealand etc a company cannot waive the rights of a user under the local consumer laws by just getting you to accept some stupid disclaimer.
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It depends on the country you live in. A company can't get you to accept something like that and make you give up a right given to you by law. Check your local consumer laws, you might still be able to get it fixed under warranty.
I know that in the EU, Australia, New Zealand etc a company cannot waive the rights of a user under the local consumer laws by just getting you to accept some stupid disclaimer.
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Most EU countries that is partially true, depending on your country, I will elaborate in a second... I was unaware there were similar laws in Australia or New Zealand...
The situation is quite complicated, at least in Germany, but most likely this applies to most EU countries. There are two different types of warranty. First, the manufacturer warranty / express warranty (Garantie), which is entirely voluntary and the manufacturer dictates its terms. Second, there is the implied warranty (Gewährleistung), which is regulated by law and exercised by the seller.
Under express warranty, manufacturers can decline any repairs easily because of unlocking, and they do that of course. However, under implied warranty, that isn't easily possible. In Germany, in the first 6 months after you buy the device, the seller has to prove that a fault is your own doing. Which is really hard, so you should be good to go even with unlocked bootloader. After the first 6 months, it is the opposite, you have to prove that a defect wasn't caused by you, which is again, really hard.
So in the first 6 months after you've bought the phone you should be fine, but after that, it will be problematic to say the least. Again, this is true for Germany, it might be a bit different in other EU countries.
There are any number of discussions on this topic on Reddit, Lenovo's Official Forums, here and other forums, and although some people seem to get around the Motorola/Lenovo statements, the vast majority don't, even in countries with laws to subjugate this practice. A little Googling will confirm that. Whatever Moto, and other manufacturers with similar policies are doing, in general they are not honoring warranties after bootloader unlocking.
The reality is a lot worse than the pretty picture the politicians give us about the laws that supposedly protect consumers.
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I had recently rooted my moto g5 plus and due to battery issues had to relock the bootloader before taking it to the service center.
After examining the device, the service center asked me if it was rooted earlier to which I replied Yes and then they told me that the device has void its warranty since the device was rooted.
Now that I had relocked the bootloader, can I not claim the device warranty now?
Please show me a direction here.
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Once you unlock the bootloader, your warranty is void. It doesn't matter if you relock it. Because you have to request an unlock code from Motorola, that big long agreement you have to accept when you request the code basically tells you that you're voiding your warranty the moment you click "accept", whether you actually use the code and unlock the bootloader or not. Just asking for the code is all it takes.
That's something you need to come to terms with if you're going to use custom ROMs, or root your device. I always wait a month or two to make sure my phone doesn't have any defects before I mess with ROMs, and I research devices before buying them to see what kind of issues they may be prone to in the first 12 months.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, bud.
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from the unlock code page https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b :
As used in this Legal Agreement and Warning, the term "Unlocked Device" means a Device for which an Unlock Code has been obtained, regardless of whether such Device's bootloader has actually been unlocked, relocked or whether such Device's software or operating system has been modified or whether it's original, unmodified software or operating system has been reloaded. In other words, once a Device's Unlock Code has been released by Motorola to User, the Device shall thereafter, for all intents and purposes, be deemed to be an Unlocked Device, irrespective of whether it was, in fact, unlocked or modified.
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(5) THE FOLLOWING APPLIES TO ALL UNLOCKED DEVICES EXCEPT FOR DEVELOPER EDITION DEVICES. BY OBTAINING THE UNLOCK CODE FOR THIS DEVICE, IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THE DEVICE'S BOOTLOADER IS SUBSEQUENTLY UNLOCKED OR ITS SOFTWARE OR OPERATING SYSTEM IS MODIFIED, USER AGREES TO WAIVE AND VOID ALL WARRANTIES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY MOTOROLA, BOTH EXPRESS AND IMPLIED, INCLUDING ANY WRITTEN WARRANTY THAT ACCOMPANIED THE DEVICE AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE OR DELIVERY, AND AGREES THAT ANY RIGHTS OR REMEDIES PROVIDED BY SUCH A WARRANTY ARE NULL AND VOID. MOTOROLA MAKES NO WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND AND DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES OF EVERY KIND, EXPRESS, IMPLIED, OR STATUTORY, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE IN CONNECTION WITH AN UNLOCKED DEVICE. USER ACKNOWLEDGES AND AGREES THAT ALL SUCH WARRANTIES ARE HEREBY EXCLUDED AND THAT ALL UNLOCKED DEVICES ARE PROVIDED "AS IS," WITH NO WARRANTY OF ANY KIND
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I just got a used/refurb G5 Plus in the mail yesterday - it still has warranty thru 06/2018. ($145 from B&H, for the 4GB/64GB version!)
All right, time to "ROM it up!". Read unlock/root directions. get oem unlock data from fastboot, go to the motorola unlock code page:
I sat there, on the unlock code page for about 6 minutes, reading and re-reading that. I've decided not to unlock for now. It's not often that I have a phone under warranty (I've almost always had used phones, etc), so i think i will try to see how well I can get along with stock ROM for a change.
Thankfully, I see very little variance away from AOSP.
This will be a major challenge, for me, to see how long I can stay stock and unrooted. Hopefully, I can make it to the 8.0 OTA.
But, the point is - I read the stuff and took time to think and make an informed decision.
well... in my city, those service center guys are dumb, I mean really dumb;
I had some problem with my bootloader unlocked device, they just checked the bill and repaired the phone for free lol
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well... in my city, those service center guys are dumb, I mean really dumb;
I had some problem with my bootloader unlocked device, they just checked the bill and repaired the phone for free lol
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North America and Europe don't have "service centers"... We have to send them into corporate repair center to get fixed, there is no walk-in service, which requires an RMA be issued and we get stopped right there.
Honestly, your service center isn't helping... When they do repairs on a device like this, they later submit the repair to Moto/Lenovo for reimbursement and they don't get paid because the IMEI is flagged. Sure, you got your device fixed, but your neighbors paid for it, not Moto.
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North America and Europe don't have "service centers"... We have to send them into corporate repair center to get fixed, there is no walk-in service, which requires an RMA be issued and we get stopped right there.
Honestly, your service center isn't helping... When they do repairs on a device like this, they later submit the repair to Moto/Lenovo for reimbursement and they don't get paid because the IMEI is flagged. Sure, you got your device fixed, but your neighbors paid for it, not Moto.
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wdym by neighbors? you mean those guys in service center took the loss by this ^above???