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Hey guys finally the day has come when i will upgrade to a new smartphone and luckily as i am not short on budget i have decided to buy Galaxy Note 3 which i think is the best Android smartphone nowadays......the problem is that in my country both versions are available and i am not sure which version is better so thought what place would be better than XDA to ask this question......i hope you guys will help me in taking the right decision.
Btw N9000($605) is about 30 usd cheaper than N9005($635) which though doesn't matter but i thought i should share this as well with you guys.
(Both are 32 gb variants)
Regards..!!!
Just watch the N9005, trick little prick if the service provider you're using is on bands 7/17, however the 9005 is a little better hardware wise! I personally don't think you'll noticed the difference!
Go 9005.
Firstly, Exynos only excels more in graphics department and its barely any better then what Snapdragon offers. Also the SD model is more widely available & the carrier choice due to FDD-LTE, Which means better longterm rom support between the two models.
N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM
vndnguyen said:
N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM
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Why does the N9005 has less free RAM?
SK_007 said:
Why does the N9005 has less free RAM?
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Honestly I dont know. I just notice the difference between 2 models.
vndnguyen said:
N900 has 2.66 GB of total RAM
N9005 has 2.38 GB of total RAM
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vndnguyen said:
Honestly I dont know. I just notice the difference between 2 models.
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I see but thanks anyway i wasn't aware of this!
But can the N900 read base that At&t run for their LTE?
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But can the N900 read base that At&t run for their LTE?
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n900 exynos doesn't support 4g LTE, hardware issue.
dont worry about the ram difference....they both have 3GB...its how each of the 2 versions reserves certain amounts for the gpu & other systems processes....(not sure of the EXACT things that do this....but i read it here in xda while deciding on the note 3 version myself).... but in my opinion i would suggest you go for the n9005....its a little better in terms of performance...as far as battery is concerned the snapdragon is better as my cousin owns a octa version & mine does considerably better....it has LTE & it has 4k video recording & playback support...something the octa version doesnt....so that means the n9005 is a bit more futureproof than the 9000 PLUS the n9005 has a more active developer support....
N900 is Exynos Variant which means the processor is developed by Samsung. The N9005 is Snapdragon Variant which means the processor is developed by Qualcomm. Overall I would prefer the Snapdragon 800 Variant as performance is much more excellent than Samsung's own Exynos.
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linx1287 said:
dont worry about the ram difference....they both have 3GB...its how each of the 2 versions reserves certain amounts for the gpu & other systems processes....(not sure of the EXACT things that do this....but i read it here in xda while deciding on the note 3 version myself).... but in my opinion i would suggest you go for the n9005....its a little better in terms of performance...as far as battery is concerned the snapdragon is better as my cousin owns a octa version & mine does considerably better....it has LTE & it has 4k video recording & playback support...something the octa version doesnt....so that means the n9005 is a bit more futureproof than the 9000 PLUS the n9005 has a more active developer support....
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The last line can be a deal breaker in favor of N9005 as it would be very difficult for me to go for the variant which has considerably less developer support.......so as of now i am leaning towards N9005!
Btw i read somewhere that Samsung might release a patch which will enable all the 8 cores on N9000......is this true can anyone please confirm this?
Most Exynos users including me are suffering from poor battery life. N9005 users seem to enjoy 9 hours of screen on time, while me and some other N900 users get 4-5 hours maximum. So I'd say go with N9005.
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Most Exynos users including me are suffering from poor battery life. N9005 users seem to enjoy 9 hours of screen on time, while me and some other N900 users get 4-5 hours maximum. So I'd say go with N9005.
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And i thought that due to those 4 power saving A7 cores N9000 will have the better battery life lol...........thanks mate for telling me about battery life coz this is one of the primary things which i look for when choosing a smartphone..!!!
On my personal usage I had both snapdragon and exynos and eventually end up with keeping exynos for myself and gave snapdragon to my sis as exynos felt a bit snappier overall to me but in few games snapdragon had a slight advantage but the exynos was no less in some games exynos was better, and yes battery sucks with latest firmware update was excellent before so you can expect battery to be fixed with updates and if you have LTE in your country go with snapdragon, exynos makes no sense if you got LTE in your region and better development also goes to snapdragon, also today Samsung might announce something about their exynos processor @Ces and my guess is they will release the hmp which enables all 8 cores, though nothing sure keep an eye, so decide what you need, but in terms of performance pick either of them you wouldn't regret
sorry but the HMP patch to run all 8cores have been scraped a while back...so performance wise snapdragon is better...plus i have 2 exynos variants of samsung products at home...an s4 octa & a note 3 octa....dont know the reason why...but they started to bog down after a few weeks of usage....there arent many apps installed on either device, both rooted by me & debloated & running almost the same setup as my n9005...but mine is still as snappy as it was the day i got it :/ ....the current 5410 & 20 were experiments if you ask me.... i'd say the n9005 is the nobrainer choice when buying note 3
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I'm surprised No one's mentioned how hot the snapdragon version gets under stress! I've never had a handheld device get so hot! No exaggeration, I sometimes worry if I should stop what im doing to allow the phone to cool. My friends exynos note 2 doesnt even get warm. I can attest to the battery life, atm I get 10hrs screen on time which includes reading rss feeds, music and light to medium web browsing. I was always under the impression the exynos version was better on battery, but some users seem to suggest otherwise. I bought the n9005 instead of n9000 because: 1. It was cheaper in my region.
2. To use LTE.
I dont regret buying the snapdragon version, but the performance difference between the two is negligible and the heat
issue really bothers me, so i must vote for the exynos, providing that the battery life isnt noticeably worse.
oh one more thing.. 3g+ is still quite fast and 4g lte is a battery hog, though the speeds are impressive.
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sorry but the HMP patch to run all 8cores have been scraped a while back...so performance wise snapdragon is better...plus i have 2 exynos variants of samsung products at home...an s4 octa & a note 3 octa....dont know the reason why...but they started to bog down after a few weeks of usage....there arent many apps installed on either device, both rooted by me & debloated & running almost the same setup as my n9005...but mine is still as snappy as it was the day i got it :/ ....the current 5410 & 20 were experiments if you ask me.... i'd say the n9005 is the nobrainer choice when buying note 3
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Go and have a [email protected] on Twitter, and you'll find something as #UnlockExynos which as assumed can be related to HMP, also if there's no HMP I wouldn't really care, I find the 5420 still great, and yeah galaxy s4 5410 that was a serious fail, I threw it out in 2 days of usage coz that 5410 processor was such a bullshi* but that isn't the case with 5420 but still it's own preference and way to think which is good or bad.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_and_note_3_wont_get_true_octacore_update-news-6908.php there mate....that unlockexynos thing that you speak of is probably the processor teaser for S5 which could be 64bit processor.....& S4 octa processor is the absolute pits.....the note 3's octa is a slight improvement...but i would still say the snapdragon is a better overall package....& thus a slightly better choice
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I'm surprised No one's mentioned how hot the snapdragon version gets under stress! I've never had a handheld device get so hot! No exaggeration, I sometimes worry if I should stop what im doing to allow the phone to cool. My friends exynos note 2 doesnt even get warm. I can attest to the battery life, atm I get 10hrs screen on time which includes reading rss feeds, music and light to medium web browsing. I was always under the impression the exynos version was better on battery, but some users seem to suggest otherwise. I bought the n9005 instead of n9000 because: 1. It was cheaper in my region.
2. To use LTE.
I dont regret buying the snapdragon version, but the performance difference between the two is negligible and the heat
issue really bothers me, so i must vote for the exynos, providing that the battery life isnt noticeably worse.
oh one more thing.. 3g+ is still quite fast and 4g lte is a battery hog, though the speeds are impressive.
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sorry mate...but you may have gotten a faulty unit...as my snapdragon barely ever gets hot.....i played real racing 3, gt racing 2 & asphalt 8 nonstop with 100% battery until i drained it to 0% & the phone barely got warm....& as for battery life.....the snapdragon is quite a bit ahead of the exynos...i have 1 in the house so i can tell....also the performance difference may be negligible but its still visible...atleast to me
Hi, I want to get a new Galaxy S5 and I am not pretty sure which model should I buy.
My carrier does not support LTE, I think it will be supported in a year and a half.
Which model has better performance without thinking about the need of LTE?
Which processor has better performance? Exynos 5 Octa or Snapdragon 801?
Thanks!
I am using lte model but I don't turn on the lte data. I think hsdpa+ is fast enough. Of course octa core were faster than the lte model. But if we look s4 device, snapdragon model were support by many developers
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Ave666 said:
I am using lte model but I don't turn on the lte data. I think hsdpa+ is fast enough. Of course octa core were faster than the lte model. But if we look s4 device, snapdragon model were support by many developers
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so I understand that the Exynos 5 Octa has better performances than the Snapdragon 801 right?
So you recommend me to buy the SM-G900H?
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so I understand that the Exynos 5 Octa has better performances than the Snapdragon 801 right?
So you recommend me to buy the SM-G900H?
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1. Snapdragon version if ure into gaming cos it has a slightly better gpu though the Mali T628 is powerful enough.. If ure into flashing custom roms, the snapdragon version will obviously have better developer community!
2. Strictly based on CPU performance, exynos version will be better..
Buy wisely!
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1. Snapdragon version if ure into gaming cos it has a slightly better gpu though the Mali T628 is powerful enough.. If ure into flashing custom roms, the snapdragon version will obviously have better developer community!
2. Strictly based on CPU performance, exynos version will be better..
Buy wisely!
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So if I'm in the development community the snapdragon will give me better future development support?
Thanks in advance!
Yeah it's true for development support. But bare in mind that exynos version was faster and the battery life is longer
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Ave666 said:
Yeah it's true for development support. But bare in mind that exynos version was faster and the battery life is longer
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Battery life is longer?
Well i didn't know that..
Ave666 said:
Yeah it's true for development support. But bare in mind that exynos version was faster and the battery life is longer
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Hey could you link some source regarding battery life? I haven't been able to find any. cheers.
edenk said:
So if I'm in the development community the snapdragon will give me better future development support?
Thanks in advance!
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Yes definitely..
Exynos 5 Octa.
SD801 version has LTE, better GPU optimisation for HD games, better developer support, higher clock speed(dunno if that's an advantage).
Exynos version has a faster CPU(According to benchmarks and due to HMP), possibly better battery life(big.LITTLE is supposed to aid that), maybe lesser heating (according to @AndreiLux), and a little smoother(according to a few people).
Gaming is not that bad on the Exynos and it plays most HD games flawlessly(check the gaming tests on youtube).
In the end, they are not that difderent from each other. If LTE is a must for you or you need more ROMs, get the Snapdragon. Else, get the Exynos.
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SD801 version has LTE, better GPU optimisation for HD games, better developer support, higher clock speed(dunno if that's an advantage).
Exynos version has a faster CPU(According to benchmarks and due to HMP), possibly better battery life(big.LITTLE is supposed to aid that), maybe lesser heating (according to @AndreiLux), and a little smoother(according to a few people).
Gaming is not that bad on the Exynos and it plays most HD games flawlessly(check the gaming tests on youtube).
In the end, they are not that difderent from each other. If LTE is a must for you or you need more ROMs, get the Snapdragon. Else, get the Exynos.
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What about the Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound? Wouldn't that be a big plus for the Exynos?
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What about the Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound? Wouldn't that be a big plus for the Exynos?
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I'm not sure whether the Exynos S5 actually has the Wolfson DAC.
But of course, that is a big plus for the Exynos if it is present.
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I'm not sure whether the Exynos S5 actually has the Wolfson DAC.
But of course, that is a big plus for the Exynos if it is present.
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Thank you all for helping!
Can u please explain what is Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound?
edenk said:
Thank you all for helping!
Can u please explain what is Wolfson DAC and voodoo sound?
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WM5110E Wolfson DAC is integrated in the Exynos version, which is an audio chip capable of giving high quality sound output through the headphone jack. Samsung usually messes up the software side so someone, usually Supercurio, has to fix it with a mod a.k.a voodoo sound!
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WM5110E Wolfson DAC is integrated in the Exynos version, which is an audio chip capable of giving high quality sound output through the headphone jack. Samsung usually messes up the software side so someone, usually Supercurio, has to fix it with a mod a.k.a voodoo sound!
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So the Exynos model can give higher quality of sound output?
And why does the snapdragon has better development support than the Exynos? Because every year before this one the Exynos models were the international ones and consequently the more popular with better development support like the i9300 and i9500
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So the Exynos model can give higher quality of sound output?
And why does the snapdragon has better development support than the Exynos? Because every year before this one the Exynos models were the international ones and consequently the more popular with better development support like the i9300 and i9500
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It should if the software side is on par with the DAC. The other problem would be remedied in the next flagship model as the Exynos chip would be accompanied with an Intel LTE modem apparently, which would eliminate the need for a Snapdragon variant!
Regarding voodoo for S5, or any other device, I wonder if that will continue, since Supercurio is now part of CyanogenMod/One Plus team.
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About better development, you should consider that this only applies to AOSP, if you like CM, ParanoidAndroid and so on go for the S801, if you don't then buy the Exynos.
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dandroid13 said:
About better development, you should consider that this only applies to AOSP, if you like CM, ParanoidAndroid and so on go for the S801, if you don't then buy the Exynos.
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Oh now I understand, the nexus has the same processor unit right? the snapdragon 800 and that means more AOKP roms compatible with this model right? What about stock ROMS? Most of them should support the exynos too?
I have another question, my brother is in Hong Kong right now? Are those models SM-G900H and SM-G900F are available to purchase there?
Thanks a lot!
Hi,
Just wanted to ask before I get the note 4.
-my carrier has the exynos 5433, i wanted the s805 is exynos good enough? in terms of gaming and battery life?
-Does 5433 support quick charging?
-Is it a 64 bit chip already?
-how long does it last compared to sd805 variant?
Many thanks guys
Yes its 64 bit chip but not enabled.Its ahead in gaming as compared to sd.A little less battery life as compared to sd.It supports quick charge
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By how many % is it less compared to SD? I mean can it last a whole day with internet use and games? Lets say SD can last 8 hours. How about exynos?
brapicoco said:
-my carrier has the exynos 5433, i wanted the s805 is exynos good enough? in terms of gaming and battery life?
-how long does it last compared to sd805 variant?
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The Exynos version performs better than the Snapdragon 805 version. Plus, it doesn't overheat/throttle.
BUT, it lasts 2 hours shorter than the Snapdragon variant. I get about 5.5-6 hours SOT on my N910C (4.4.4)
That's way more than long enough for me - between driving and lunches, I wouldn't even get 5 hours of use out of the house.
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Does 5433 support quick charging?
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Yep!
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-Is it a 64 bit chip already?
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It's definitely 64-bit: SBL is compiled as AArch64.
But the OS isn't built for 64-bit - 5.0.1 is built for 32 bit. Maybe an XDA dev can port 64 bit Android to it in the future, but I'm not sure we'll need to have 64-bit within the lifetime of the phone.
Thanks for the reply mate. So 2 hours really is significant. But the charging time is it also 2hrs? Which is the same as the sd variant?
I thought 5.0 will start utilizing the 64bit architecture. Im planning to get the n4 this weekend. I mean should I wait for s6 or this will do? This will be my first sammy phone after using xperia flagships since 2010. X8,ZL and Z1
Wait and get the s6 so u will have latest and greatest from samsung
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Thanks for the reply mate. So 2 hours really is significant. But the charging time is it also 2hrs? Which is the same as the sd variant?
I thought 5.0 will start utilizing the 64bit architecture. Im planning to get the n4 this weekend. I mean should I wait for s6 or this will do? This will be my first sammy phone after using xperia flagships since 2010. X8,ZL and Z1
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The N910C charges (0-100) in about 1 hour 30 minutes (But it charges fastest from 30-80% - that's done in 30 minutes)
The Note 4's plenty fast, though IMO you should wait for the S6/Note 5 to really blow you away.
I came from a Galaxy S2, and was thoroughly impressed by how far we've come in 3 years!
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By how many % is it less compared to SD? I mean can it last a whole day with internet use and games? Lets say SD can last 8 hours. How about exynos?
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1,3%
N910C is exynos right? Sorry not really familiar with the names yet..
Hi may I ask whats the difference between GALAXY NOTE 4 (EXYNOS) or GALAXY NOTE 4 (SNAPDRAGON)????????
Which one is the better version to buy?
Two are with different chipset, two different processors, both CPU and GPU. Some might say Exynos is faster in benchmarks and all, and its true too, but Snapdragon is the one with better XDA support I think. So choose according to your preference.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...marks-Snapdragon-805-vs-Exynos-7-Octa_id63111
can any one else comment on this which has better for xda support?
Which one has android 6?
I see alot support for Snapdragon but what about the N910F this has dual sim not sure if its has alot support here.
NERVERMIND LOL
I have owned both. The difference I noticed was the F version ran hotter and the battery did not last as long as the C version. I am now using N910C.
It is generally mentioned that the F version had more rom and kernels because it has snapdragon processor. I never rooted my device yet as I use Knox, so I cannot comment on dev. support. You can browse the subforums and see for yourself. Good luck.
Snapdragon by far. Just look at the development section as far as custom roms go. Way more selections for snapdragon
Is it included? I know the QC variant has it but it looks like the international version doesn't.
Not a massive loss to me but if anyone knows for certain then that would be great.
Exynos versions never had FM Radio afaik, my S6 didn't have it and now my S8 doesn't have it as well
exynos chipm doesnt have it, snapdragon does. similarly the exynos gets a complete **** DAC, the snapdragon gets a good one.
I quite like having a FM tuner in my phone. I just wish the Snapdragon varent had could get an unlocked bootloader so we could get the best of both worlds. Qualcomm releasing updated kernel sources, and rooting with hardware supporting demestic cell and broadcast radio support.
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exynos chipm doesnt have it, snapdragon does. similarly the exynos gets a complete **** DAC, the snapdragon gets a good one.
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Elaborate please. I have exynos version and can't complain about music quality and afaik s7 exynos had better DAC than snapdragon version.
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Tiges said:
Elaborate please. I have exynos version and can't complain about music quality and afaik s7 exynos had better DAC than snapdragon version.
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Hmm thought it was the other way around. All i know is my exynos sounds complete crap compared to my old S5. It sounds flat and lifeless. This is using the same 320k mp3 files and the same SE530 earphones i was using on the S5. Ive heard people say the SD S8 sounds good.
This statement is not right. Galaxy J5 had Exynos and had FM radio. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_j5_prime-8342.php
It is right, No exynos S-series has had it (for a long time anyway, S2 or S3 might have).
Nice resurrection of a 2 month old dead thread btw.