Performed this update the other day.
I was playing around and switched from pattern security to fingerprint. Then I deleted fingerprint and went back to pattern security. Here is the thing.... Maybe someone else can help explain:
When I set up pattern security, it will ask you for a backup PIN number. So I entered it. (Nowhere does it ask you for this pin if you get the pattern wrong????)
Before, when I would do the pattern wrong, a message would pop up saying that "You have incorrectly did the pattern, 9 more tries before the phone is reset" Or something like that. Now it NEVER gives that warning, just says incorrect pattern? (Yes this feature IS turned on) Did they change something??? Does it still reset the phone after 10 attempts without any warnings now?
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Performed this update the other day.
I was playing around and switched from pattern security to fingerprint. Then I deleted fingerprint and went back to pattern security. Here is the thing.... Maybe someone else can help explain:
When I set up pattern security, it will ask you for a backup PIN number. So I entered it. (Nowhere does it ask you for this pin if you get the pattern wrong????)
Before, when I would do the pattern wrong, a message would pop up saying that "You have incorrectly did the pattern, 9 more tries before the phone is reset" Or something like that. Now it NEVER gives that warning, just says incorrect pattern? (Yes this feature IS turned on) Did they change something??? Does it still reset the phone after 10 attempts without any warnings now?
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italyguy01 said:
Performed this update the other day.
I was playing around and switched from pattern security to fingerprint. Then I deleted fingerprint and went back to pattern security. Here is the thing.... Maybe someone else can help explain:
When I set up pattern security, it will ask you for a backup PIN number. So I entered it. (Nowhere does it ask you for this pin if you get the pattern wrong????)
Before, when I would do the pattern wrong, a message would pop up saying that "You have incorrectly did the pattern, 9 more tries before the phone is reset" Or something like that. Now it NEVER gives that warning, just says incorrect pattern? (Yes this feature IS turned on) Did they change something??? Does it still reset the phone after 10 attempts without any warnings now?
Thanks
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Hi, maybe this should be posted at Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum.
This is the "auto factory reset" option in the Lock Screen settings.
This feature is turned "ON" like it always has been. But, now after update, no warnings. Anyone else tell me if theirs does the same thing after update?
Solved (how can I add that to the title?)
Verizon Galaxy S5, rooted and running 4.4.4
I had a weird and unsettling incident today. I had my phone set up for pattern unlock. I pulled my phone from my pocket and it was on a pin unlock screen. I was unable to get it to go back to pattern unlock, even with pulling the battery. As so often happens when I'm ambushed with a password requirement (the old pattern unlock didn't require a pin), I couldn't remember it. I'm sure I'll remember it eventually but I needed to have navigation right then so I had to do the reset, lost some stuff, nothing too important (old factory reset didn't used to wipe the SD so I lost some stuff there too). Mostly annoying but neither here nor there really. I always assume that anything on my phone is volatile.
So that was that. I assumed my phone had pocket-swiped and got caught in a pin fallback. Except I'm playing with my phone now and I'm unable to duplicate the effect. I have a pattern set and a pin behind it but playing with it and getting the pattern wrong doesn't lock me into having to enter the pin. If I get the pattern wrong several times, I get prompted with forgot pattern (which prompts me for my google account info) or backup pin (which prompts me for my pin but allows me to hit the back arrow to go back to the pattern).
If it helps, I did not have encryption on this device. It was not new when I got it so I had performed a factory reset so it should have been in exactly the same state. Can anyone help me understand how I got locked into this "having to enter a pin" state?
[Edit: I just tried enabling the pin lock screen and it is different from the screen that I saw which was more like the "backup pin" screen]
As an additional question, I see there is an option to disable the auto factory reset. If you disable it, what are your options for if you forget your passwords? How would you reset the device?
Edit2: OK, the clue was in there. If the auto factory reset is disabled, you are able to go back and forth between the pattern unlock and the pin unlock. If the auto factory reset is enabled, you jump to the pin unlock and then you get 10 chances at the pin and there is apparently no way to get back to the pattern unlock. I'll reserve comment on whether having the auto factory reset enabled as the default is a good idea or not.
Just as an additional note, I just checked and it is not possible to unlock the device from the android device manager when it has a pattern lock or pin lock screen set
This just happened to me after the tenth try and fail it wiped the whole internal and external cards and went in to boot loop I had to reflash the rom best thing to do is turn off the phone boot to safestrap and restore a back if you go through with the 10 tries at least pull your memory card before the 10th try
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It looks like a good answer I found was that if you load up the play store on a browser on a PC, there is an app you can install that will unlock your device. Pretty smart (though not cheap [edit: actually pretty cheap, just not free]). I did need the nav but if I had known of this app, I probably would just have asked directions. I definitely should have pulled the sd card anyway.
Here is the link to the app. There is also a free version which does less. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.thomascannon.screenlockbypass.pro
Other useful info available here
http://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/ho...u-bypass-android-pattern-lock-screen-0138807/
Ok so if your phone reboots or crashes, you will need to enter a password or pattern in order for the phone to work. Even alarms and everything won't work until you enter the password. That's pretty bad especially if you NEED an alarm
Some people mentioned turning it on and off and it would give you a prompt to disable it.
But for us rooted people, it doesn't give us that option. And our data is unencrypted right?
Is there a workaround if I install a custom rom?
The phone is only unencrypted if you unencrypted it. I didn't decrypt when I rooted, and a few days later TWRP was made to support the 6p without decrypting. I don't know about alarms not working when locked, mine works fine every morning and I usually after to enter my PIN or scan my finger when I tap on a notification. I was using Smart Lock with my Pebble Time, but even that still requires a PIN again after 4 hours (I'm not using it for Smart Lock anymore because the fingerprint scanner is so convenient).
If you're referring to the "please enter PIN to continue booting" part, go to security settings when tap your method (mine is PIN) and I am asked if I want to require a PIN to start the device. This will require you to put in your PIN while Android is booting up and won't proceed unless the PIN is entered. THIS would cause you to lose all ability to use the phone such as alarms or emergency calls. I would toggle this OFF ("no thanks"), and it will still require an actual PIN (fingerprint won't work) for the first unlock after a reboot.
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If you're referring to the "please enter PIN to continue booting" part, go to security settings when tap your method (mine is PIN) and I am asked if I want to require a PIN to start the device. This will require you to put in your PIN while Android is booting up and won't proceed unless the PIN is entered. THIS would cause you to lose all ability to use the phone such as alarms or emergency calls. I would toggle this OFF ("no thanks"), and it will still require an actual PIN (fingerprint won't work) for the first unlock after a reboot.
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I believe the OP is talking about how it requires pin on the initial lock screen after booting up. Not even finger print or any smart locks will bypass, you have to enter the pin. As far as I know, the phone is functional at this point, so alarms and calls/text etc should come through.
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I believe the OP is talking about how it requires pin on the initial lock screen after booting up. Not even finger print or any smart locks will bypass, you have to enter the pin. As far as I know, the phone is functional at this point, so alarms and calls/text etc should come through.
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Correct, as I stated in the last sentence of my post. My phone is completely usable in this state. I can read and dismiss notifications, but if I tap on one to launch that app, I have to unlock with PIN. Imprint won't work. I have a Tasker profile to launch Spotify when I plug in my headphones at work and it runs just fine after a reboot and before I've unlocked.
Recently, my fingerprint scanner died. (It never recognizes, and if I go to add a new fingerprint it spams me with the "Unable to recognize" dialog box), so i've been using "alternative password" for about 2 weeks.
I went to change my lock screen, since I wanted a nicer one(and wanted to use a pattern lock), and found Microsoft's Next lock screen.
I set it up, and went to disable my old lock screen, only run into a major issue. For *some* reason, my alternate password, which works perfect fine to unlock the lock screen, but in my settings, if I go to change the password, it says "Incorrect alternative password" when I type it in.
I have restarted my phone, made 110% sure I am typing in the *exact* same as when I unlock the phone, nothing works.
Any help? I really don't want to factory reset, I have so much stuff on this phone that I don't want to deal with re-downloading, re-getting my settings, re-rooting, etc. (especially since i'm getting a new phone in a few months anyway)
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Hi everyone,
I am having an issue with my S7 Edge because of the unlock pattern.
Normally, I always use my fingerprints for phone unlock, but as you know, additional to that you always need to input some pattern lock also for security reasons.
The problem now is that I forgot the pattern, I can still unlock my phone via fingerprint, but I can not change the lockscreen settings because it asks me for the pattern. I inputted it already 2 times wrong, first time I had to wait 5 minutes, second time 10 minutes in order to be able to unlock at all.
Now I am afraid to try anymore because it will lock my phone for longer....
Is there a way of disabling the pattern in a situation like this? (without having to do a factory reset via recovery)
P.S. It is a rooted phone