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Hey,
I am going to buy a new phone, however I am still doubting between the G2 or the N5. They are both equally priced, altough the G2 is a little bit cheaper with an LG cashback.
At this moment the G2 has a head start due to the larger battery, better camera (4K?!) and better specs overal (IR blaster) and I am going to use a custom rom anyway ( tips anyone ?).
However I am still in doubt to what the support of the community is.
Thus what I wanted to know is, how is the developper support and the community support of the G2 in comparison to the N5?
At first glance there seems to be much more support, developpers and custom roms for the N5 than the G2, can anyone tell me if this is indeed the case.
Is there btw a custom rom similiar to that of the N5 (with perhaps quickremote support)?
Thanks
Hartendief said:
Hey,
I am going to buy a new phone, however I am still doubting between the G2 or the N5. They are both equally priced, altough the G2 is a little bit cheaper with an LG cashback.
At this moment the G2 has a head start due to the larger battery, better camera (4K?!) and better specs overal (IR blaster) and I am going to use a custom rom anyway ( tips anyone ?).
However I am still in doubt to what the support of the community is.
Thus what I wanted to know is, how is the developper support and the community support of the G2 in comparison to the N5?
At first glance there seems to be much more support, developpers and custom roms for the N5 than the G2, can anyone tell me if this is indeed the case.
Is there btw a custom rom similiar to that of the N5 (with perhaps quickremote support)?
Thanks
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The Nexus phones have pretty much the largest development base, so yes that's true. If you want access to the most roms, Nexus wins. Battery life would suffer though, that's why I chose the G2. There are some great roms for the G2 though, you have to do some searching to see if you like them. Cyanogenmod is the closest to the N5, which is just vanilla kitkat. For quickremote I think you need a stock based rom, but there are a few out there that have a dark theme like vanilla kitkat.
scottdanpor said:
The Nexus phones have pretty much the largest development base, so yes that's true. If you want access to the most roms, Nexus wins. Battery life would suffer though, that's why I chose the G2. There are some great roms for the G2 though, you have to do some searching to see if you like them. Cyanogenmod is the closest to the N5, which is just vanilla kitkat. For quickremote I think you need a stock based rom, but there are a few out there that have a dark theme like vanilla kitkat.
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Actually there is a quick remote app for AOSP ROMs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2596104
scottdanpor said:
The Nexus phones have pretty much the largest development base, so yes that's true. If you want access to the most roms, Nexus wins. Battery life would suffer though, that's why I chose the G2. There are some great roms for the G2 though, you have to do some searching to see if you like them. Cyanogenmod is the closest to the N5, which is just vanilla kitkat. For quickremote I think you need a stock based rom, but there are a few out there that have a dark theme like vanilla kitkat.
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Thank you for your reply, I had a S3 where I had CM 11 unofficial on it (loved it).
I however read that the battery life of CM11 on the G2 is pretty bad.
One quick question again, I am from belgium and will thus be getting the international 802 version: I noticed there is a devide between the different versions, does that mean that I won't be able to use roms in the 801 forum ?
Hartendief said:
Thank you for your reply, I had a S3 where I had CM 11 unofficial on it (loved it).
I however read that the battery life of CM11 on the G2 is pretty bad.
One quick question again, I am from belgium and will thus be getting the international 802 version: I noticed there is a devide between the different versions, does that mean that I won't be able to use roms in the 801 forum ?
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There are many roms that will work with all G2 versions, but roms only designed to work on 801 will not work on 802 without being ported (by a developer). The title usually says which version(s) it will work with. Some say "All variants".
I can't comment on CM because I run a customized stock rom. Great battery life and I really like white themes rather than dark.
scottdanpor said:
There are many roms that will work with all G2 versions, but roms only designed to work on 801 will not work on 802 without being ported (by a developer). The title usually says which version(s) it will work with. Some say "All variants".
I can't comment on CM because I run a customized stock rom. Great battery life and I really like white themes rather than dark.
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Okay understandable, but that's kinda dissapointing about not being able to flash 801 on 802 or the other way around,
To my opinion, not a lot of roms will/could be ported to the other version. I believe this is of such a great influence that the N5 would be a wiser choice.
Can you help me out a bit and point me in the right direction as to where I can find these "many" custom roms ?
I have searched in G2 android development and G2 android development (802) section and the amount of custom roms I found was very limited:
Kit Kat baked is unofficial for the 802
Gummy Rom is not available for the 802
Btw:
1. root
2. TWRP
3. CM11/ Pacman/Paradroid ?
Hartendief said:
Okay understandable, but that's kinda dissapointing about not being able to flash 801 on 802 or the other way around,
To my opinion, not a lot of roms will/could be ported to the other version. I believe this is of such a great influence that the N5 would be a wiser choice.
Can you help me out a bit and point me in the right direction as to where I can find these "many" custom roms ?
I have searched in G2 android development and G2 android development (802) section and the amount of custom roms I found was very limited:
Kit Kat baked is unofficial for the 802
Gummy Rom is not available for the 802
Btw:
1. root
2. TWRP
3. CM11/ Pacman/Paradroid ?
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Root and TWRP are for sure available. Did you check the original android development section for roms? Probably still not as many as for the N5. I never heard of Gummy rom, but the others I have.
Hartendief said:
Okay understandable, but that's kinda dissapointing about not being able to flash 801 on 802 or the other way around,
To my opinion, not a lot of roms will/could be ported to the other version. I believe this is of such a great influence that the N5 would be a wiser choice.
Can you help me out a bit and point me in the right direction as to where I can find these "many" custom roms ?
I have searched in G2 android development and G2 android development (802) section and the amount of custom roms I found was very limited:
Kit Kat baked is unofficial for the 802
Gummy Rom is not available for the 802
Btw:
1. root
2. TWRP
3. CM11/ Pacman/Paradroid ?
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root- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48709232&postcount=869
twrp- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449670
cm11- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495859 (thread has not been updated in a while those bugs may not exist anymore)
pacman- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500030
paranoid- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
team gummy rom- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572383 (apparently there is a gummy rom for d802 international)
as for threads this one is aosp only http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/orig-development and as long as it says d802 in it you will be able to flash also d802 specific thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development-d802
as for development and different models each devise is different from there sources to their networks so each has to be developed to differently unlike the nexus which is a one for all device also pretty much all the features which are for stock g2 have been ported over and battery life is amazing on both stock and aosp especially compared to the n5
I'm kinda lost here. I'm looking to buy a D800, but wanted to know if root and leave the phone free to install aosp roms like CM11 will be possible and not complicated as hell. Wich are the steps I should follow to root / unlock, install twrp, and backup the original rom? (To later install CM11)...
Please any advice, links, etc will be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
The phone itself is good but the stock software is annoying. There are stable aosp roms available, but they have all very bad Cameras and inferior battery life. So basically most people would be forced to use the crappy lg stock rom anyway. Rooting is very easy as well as recovery
Oh that's bad news... had the idea to flash it with CM11 (while 12 is under development), or G3 roms, some people had told me this phone were good with AOSP roms... It's only the camera that does not work as intended on aosp roms? No fix for battery?
FedericoUY said:
Oh that's bad news... had the idea to flash it with CM11 (while 12 is under development), or G3 roms, some people had told me this phone were good with AOSP roms... It's only the camera that does not work as intended on aosp roms? No fix for battery?
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I have D800 and it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I can get 12 hours of usage on CM11 with 4-5 hours of screen time. Stock Rom is fine but then again I use the T-Mobile stock Rom on mine when I'm stock or CloudyG3 Rom. Right now I'm using Flyme OS Rom and I started this morning at 45% and was at 7% after 12 hours of work and had 4 hours of screen time.
Jammol said:
I have D800 and it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. I can get 12 hours of usage on CM11 with 4-5 hours of screen time. Stock Rom is fine but then again I use the T-Mobile stock Rom on mine when I'm stock or CloudyG3 Rom. Right now I'm using Flyme OS Rom and I started this morning at 45% and was at 7% after 12 hours of work and had 4 hours of screen time.
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Yes I'm about to purchase a d800, if it is good with CM11, then its good for me. Maybe later it will have lollipop roms and that will be another era... Thanks for the answers! Cheers.
Hey FedericoUY, I received my phone about a month ago and I'll go through my journey from all of the likely problems and what's required for unlocking, rooting, installing a rom for the first time on this device. I'll describe the benefits/disadvantages from the different rom distributors recommended for this device. Until a few days ago I would have agreed AOSP was better left avoided on this device, and why CM11 is still not recommended for the G2.
When I received my G2, while I had the intention to flash it. I was gravely disappointed with it, because of the shocking software and default setup. But it's become my favourite phone since. I too thought CM11 would do it for me, it really didn't on this phone. And the display & specs make it seem extremely outdated, not to mention none of the phone-specific features really worked.
(In order of events)
Sim Locking for AT&T (do first)
By default it's locked, as I imported it through the US and without an account for them I had to purchase a 3rd party unlock code for $2. Strangely I had to keep it unlocked on the stock firmware for a certain amount of time (tried a day) before it remembered the unlocking when flashing a custom firmware.
Rooting (do secondly)
The only method which worked on the latest G2 stock rom was to use "Stump Root" in the "Brute force" mode as the latest rom version didn't have a pre-configured rooting routing.
Installing a custom recovery (do third)
The only method which worked on the latest G2 stock rom was an app called "D800_AutoRec.apk" which just installed the latest TWRP recovery, from there I could flash anything.
Which roms are decent for the D800?
While personally I've stayed with more AOSP roms like CM and AOKP, the best rom & kernel to use in terms of performance/battery life and phone specific features is not the stock G2 software nor AOSP. I'll explain further why.
For the kernel, the arguably most matured and feature rich, battery friendly and performance suited kernel is the Dorimanx kernel. Which is unfortunately only compatible with stock G2 & G3 roms.
With this in consideration and all of the improvements in the G3 firmware, fully supporting this phone's features, makes the G3 roms peoples choice, in particular CloudyG3 targeted for the G2.
When it comes to AOSP like roms, there is two okay kernels which are compatible with CM and the other is only compatible with AOSP roms, with a few exceptions. Both of these kernels have poor battery life in comparison and produce a lot of heat, not to mention lesser abilities in terms of tweaking (overclocking, underclocking rate, faster charge, etc). It generally only gets worse from here using rom released kernels. It's fairly uncommon for features such as double tapping wake to work, and the lack of on-screen keyboard usability improvements.
However, Lollipop has turned things around. While not flossing as much battery life savings as CloudyG3 with the Dorimanx kernel, performance, design/look (can change Google keyboard to old theme) has brilliantly increased. It's been the only close to stock rom I've ever been largely happy with. Despite not having any real CM features and a few bugs at this moment in time.
Therefore, if you like the ability to tweak and charge faster and overclock a lot with great battery life I suggest CloudyG3 and Dorimanx. If you want an AOSP rom, I'd use Lollipop. If you want a full featured stock rom with a nice kernel, I'd wait awhile and opt for CloudyG3 until lollipop roms mature. For a battery comparison, the stock G3 rom with a custom kernel lasted me 5-7 days without charging, with CM11 I can only get about 1 day if I'm lucky.
Im on Stock Firmware: 4.4.2 on my LG G2 Verizon (VS98024A). Ive been doing alot of browsing on Custom Rom's and I want to hear some opinions. My question is Whats the BEST and most Stable ROM out there today? I was never a HUGE fan of Lollipop, but im not against it; and Cyanogenmod was never my "Favorite" custom ROM, But again; not against it!
I see ALOT of ROM's by Cloudyfa for 4.4 KitKat like CloudyFlex 2.8, CloudyG2 2.2, CloudyPro II 2.3 and I wonder whats the real differences between them all [REALLY?] and also LP 5.1 Roms like Cloudyfa's CloudyG2 3.3 and the comparions between that and the KK Versions with [PORT] like OptimusG3 Rom V1.5 and the OptimusPro Rom V4.5? and You cant forget Cyanogen Mod with KK and LP Roms as well, even 6.x MM.
Not to Mention ALL the others like Pac Rom, Slim Rom, Devient, and ect ect so on!
So what are the major categorys and differences besides the obvious of Andrioid Versions; What are the Kernels like? What makes one ROM (in your specific) better then others?
I See - A LOT- of people who are new to the G2 like myself; alittle late in the game just due to the fact the phone; "Out Of the Box" is still an AMAZING phone; and everyone who didnt follow these ROM's as they were in the making; seem to be out of the loop and not cought up, and not many replys to them asking. I was hoping I could start a thread that could help people and answer some of the multiple repeat questions and help give some people some insight on this topic!
Im inviting EVERYONE who ever ran a ROM other then STOCK to chime in and spread what you know! Thanks!!
if you dont know the difference between cloudy's rom then you should unroot your device because sooner or later you will brick it
I don't know why but I kept running into lag with the stock ROM on my D800 after a couple of months of use. Eventually, I became annoyed and installed this stripped D800 ROM, and never looked back. It's very fast and lightweight giving all stock functionality, without the bloat of dozens installed and running bloatware apps. Rather unfortunately, there is only the d800 version. Perhaps, such ROMs exist for other G2 editions?
Robles.... ROM's are very personal girlfriends of our phones and us users. Your likes might aggravate me and viceversa. Cloudy offers cleaned up variations of stock OS, and then you have CM-based roms (bliss pop, resurrection, etc). The best rom? Only you can answer that. You're asking a very annoying question even though this community is very helpful. Ask a waiter what they recommend, and what should their answer be? "it depends what you're in the mood for?" Right? How does he/she know what we like? Your question is similar, and has been asked too many times. As helpful as xda is, we all appreciate that a person investigates BEFORE asking. Learn or try, and then ask.
Go on the threads and read and read comments and posts, and slowly your gut will tell you to try a rom or not. As long as you make backups with twrp, you can always return to safety with what you had.
I'm on Slimsaber LP rom, and the battery life is amazing for a daily driver. There's a start, read, read more, and good luck.
Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
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If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
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It is N910F.
The link you provided is simply stock android MM?
Yes stock MM, stock is in my experience the most stable and bug free rom build. But the link is for n910g unfortunately.
Stock ROM, and then debloat yourself. Quite honestly speaking, and no offence to anyone, there are no good ROMs available for Note 4. In fact I myself might have not got the phone if I realised the development section is like this. And I am not interested in ported ROMs, so even though there are many available I won't go that way, and I am too dumb to make a ROM for myself, so stock ROM it is.
I agree, stock rom rooted and debloat it, and apply msm tweaks. If you want, xposed as well.
Utini said:
Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
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You must flash samsung based rom to have all soen features and samsung apps. I reconnemed kurama rom which in using , its battery friendly, fast and stock based. If you going to flash kurama rom you must flash modem and bootloader for the rom to boot up (only can be flashed from pc with odin)
Hey guys I have a quick question. I'm thinking about buying a 6P and I can't help but to be paranoid about all of the bootloop issues I'm hearing about. The thing is, it seems that this only happens with the official update(at least that's what I think). If I buy the phone(used) and flash a custom rom, will that be a way to avoid this bootloop issue?
Only some models are experiencing the bootloops issues (I don't know what about the Official PA), otherwise, you'll have a great number of some of the best custom roms (Resurrection remix, purenexus, lineage...) & kernels (elementalX, franco, flash...) and you can choose what's best for you.
I can also say, that the N6P has an amazing camera for taking great photos, and is just a great android phone.
Personnaly I'm on the android O developer preview 3 since more than a mounth, and I can say that it's running great with a good battery life and smooth animations.
Ok thanks. I guess I'll flash the custom rom as soon as I get it just to be on the safe side. The camera caught my attention. It's basically why I'm upgrading from my Oneplus One.