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I have been using my new mytouch without a data plan for about a week now. I had data when I activated the phone (didn't sign up for it, but was able to connect), but they have since blocked it. Everything works fine without a data plan except for one thing - MMS. MMS is not working for me now, and I suspect its because I don't have a data plan. I tried changing around APN settings, but haven't managed to find a combination that works. Anyone have any ideas on work around?
So that is weird because technically, without data, you should only get mms / sms and phone.
mms uses the data connection
MMS messages need the data connection to work. SMS messages should work without a data connection since they are transmitted over the signaling portion of the cell channel.
Without the data plan MMS will not work.
Why then did MMS work on my T-Mobile Dash without a data plan?
Dash was a different phone
Windows Mobile on the dash handled data differently than the android software, plus the network systems have been changed to recognize data phones and require the correct data plans.
The Dash was not supposed to get MMS without a data plan but it worked as long as you could connect to T-zones.
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
yea i had the same thing the data worked over 3g for about a day. u can buy the phone form walmart and u will not have to to get the 24.99 data plan i just told them i have it on another line.
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
mlpoland said:
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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to view MMS without a data plan? No cuz an unlocked phone only allows you to use the phone with other carriers.
is there anyway to activate it without dataplan simcard....? with wifi same like g1
I think that myTouch "need" simcard with data plan to activate it. only wifi is impossible to activate.
However, I've another question. Is it possible to use this phone when I have no Internet conneciton (wifi/2G/3G)? I just need to use if for making a call.
yes. if your mytouch 3g is alrady activated (needs sim cardwith data plan for that), you can SMS and make phonecalls and check voicemail (visual voicemail does need data tho) without any data connection, just like normal cellphones.
OK folks. For those of you that missed it. The My Touch has to be activated using a sim card with a data plan attached. Once that is done, you don't need data. MMS on the MyTouch runs through the data portion of the network. Yot car root the phone, load up a different recovery image like Cyanogen or Amon ra's, and no more need to activate that handheld again. As for MMS, no fix for that. You have to have data to send an MMS. Large text, Picture, Or video messages will not work on a text package alone. A "large" text message is about 133 characters or more. Don't realy remember to well these days. The phone was designed around a data connection. Without it, you're gonna have issues.
Is there a List?
Is there a list of phones that MMS won't work or other features are disabled? The G1 used to not need data now T-mobile say's it does? so if I was to get a G1 without data is MMS gone? Curious about the Nokia nuron or nexus 1 is anything disabled without data?
I want to get a nice phone preferably with wifi but no data plan what is my best option a list of phones that work 100% without Data would be very cool...
Need to know my options so I can start trying to get a deal on the phone I select.
Thanks
Hurlamania
Das_mobile said:
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
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No not really. the $10 Unlimited web for phone data plan works. Just need to tweak around the apn settings.
I have also seen some forums that included that a 5.99$ Tzone data plan also work with mytouch 3g. However it is difficult to get that plan.
After activating and sim unlocking the phone, If I ever factory data reset, would I have to activate it again with a Tmobile sim card?
Now I am confused.
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
snyper5 said:
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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Are you getting charged for data usage? AFAIK all MMS has to go over towers so that the carriers network can authenticate the phone they're are coming from, but I could be wrong.
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Can somebody help me out
i have a mytouch 3g but dont have any data plan
how do i register it without a data plan
help! I know how to do it w/o a data plan on g1
but not this one
I don't know of any way to register without a data plan, but you can pay for just 1 day of the data plan. Sign up for the data plan, register, and then send an email to [email protected] saying you don't need the data plan any longer. They will remove it no questions asked by email.
enable wlan?!
btw, there is no need to register with google if you dont have a data plan.
this feature just enables online content.
how do i ENABLE WLAN
Can't you register through a wifi network?
It is what I did on my Vodafone Magic. Hope it helps.
my magic asked me when i started for the first time whether i want to enable wifi.
afterwards it asked for reg.
mytouch actually requires you to have a data plan to register or login to gmail account before you can use access anything. I see no one is able to bypass the register/login screen on the mytouch 3g.
Ask someone for their SIM card who already has the data plan, put it in your phone and activate it with a new gmail account or sign in if you already have a gmail. Then put your SIM card into the phone and you will have access to the phone. Hope that helps.
i got an unlocked mytouch that was factory reset...when i boot it with a sim that has a data plan and set the apn for my country (i live in Caribbean) i get a little "E" icon on which i think is the Edge or GPRS symbol , but the sign in fail...saying that the 'its unable to connect to google servers" yes the setting are correct and the sim has the data plan cause it works with other phone where i live
also... from what i read there is now way to bypass the activation screen using wifi like you can do with the G1? is that true or am i looking in the wrong places
Help...frustrated....
SLEZ said:
Ask someone for their SIM card who already has the data plan, put it in your phone and activate it with a new gmail account or sign in if you already have a gmail. Then put your SIM card into the phone and you will have access to the phone. Hope that helps.
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Is this the only way? I am currently on AT&T Wireless without a Data Plan and got myself a T-mobile Mytouch 3g and it's unlocked and I can't get passed the activation login screen either.
help anyone...
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i got an unlocked mytouch that was factory reset...when i boot it with a sim that has a data plan and set the apn for my country (i live in Caribbean) i get a little "E" icon on which i think is the Edge or GPRS symbol , but the sign in fail...saying that the 'its unable to connect to google servers" yes the setting are correct and the sim has the data plan cause it works with other phone where i live
also... from what i read there is now way to bypass the activation screen using wifi like you can do with the G1? is that true or am i looking in the wrong places
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Im having the same problem...im on at&t wireless without a data plan and cannot get pass the login/activation screen...this sucks I can't even make a simple phone call...
I've got the same problem, anybody figure it out?
go to a T-Mobile store. Ask if you can borrow the sim from one of their demo phones for a minute. once registered you can use it all you like.
If I already have a sim with an iphone data plan on it shouldn't the connection work to register?
So it has to be a T-mob data plan to register the phone and get past the activation? I would like to know as I had to master reset mine and I live in Trinidad and Tobago. Thank you.
First of all, you need tmobile data plan if it is a mytouch 3g because the APN settings are factory set to tmobile APN. You can't change those until you have signed into google and have access to settings and other features.
If you are a tmobile customer, then just log in to tmobile.com and sign up for data plan. it'll take anywhere from 30 mins to a few hours to get data plan. sign on to google and then cancel the data plan.
If you are NOT a tmobile customer then find someone who is a tmobile customer with a data plan or go to one of those tmobile stores at the mall and politely ask them to use their sim to register your phone. Or find a friend. I don't know if there is any way around it.
Finally, ROOT your phone so you don't have to worry about this crap!
Just a note of caution. If your phone has donut on it then you will have to downgrade to cupcake before you can root and that will require you to login to google one more time, so don't cancel the data plan until you do this if you intend on rooting your phone.
OK, so as I mentioned before I am from Trinidad and Tobago so the option of "going to a T-moble store" or "borrowing a friend's sim" is out of the question. Even if I do get it to the US it would be to get it registered and after I root I would be back to square one.
Another thing I saw mentioned in your post was that the APN is set to Tmobile but in my APN entries there aren't any. Does this affect any thing?
sp44 said:
I've got the same problem, anybody figure it out?
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It's easy! Just skip the whole registration process and from there you will go to the home screen. From there, you can setup your wifi and then register your device! At least this is for the Google phones.
MT3G does not allow you to skip the registraiton process.
try getting a bmobile sim card with a data plan or a data sim as wee call it in trinidad and use that to register the phone, bmobiles APN settings are simple, just type in Internet as the APN and leave everything else blank, that should work...
im an android enthusiast coming from a g1 and a droid. i want the hd2 because of its ability to flash almost any os to it. now here is my main question. im switching to at&t in a week. im getting a dumbphone. i cant pay for data. and i dont care about data anyway. i have been using my droid like an ipod touch for a year now. i would like to buy and unlock an hd2. can i simply pop my sim card from my dumbphone into the hd2? and not pay any data as long as i keep the data sync off when not in wifi?
or will at&t switch data on and charge me?
thanks everyone. i truly love these forums.
All the OS´s on HD2 I know allow you to turn the data connection off, that includes WinMo, WP7 and Android. Guess that won´t be any different with the others.
Assuming you get it unlocked, yes. However, there are a few caveats. First, AT&T doesn't/won't switch on the data on the phone. All of that is controlled through Android's necessity for a data connection. Now, if you boot Android from the SD I believe you can set some parameters for the start up to disable the data connection. I'm not sure whether you can do the same booting from NAND. You can, however, just delete the APN from the network settings and it will have no way to connect.
will at&t attach data to my bill if i start using the hd2 with my dumbphone sim card? even if i keep data off?
gh123man said:
will at&t attach data to my bill if i start using the hd2 with my dumbphone sim card? even if i keep data off?
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No they shouldn't charge you for data unless you ask for a data plan or if you do not keep the HD2 from calling for a data signal.
Member drewden123 had a very good suggestion about deleting the APN. That is a sure fire way to stop any data connection from ever being able to be established.
okay. if i delete the apn i will still be able to use data over wifi right? and could someone provide instructions how how to do this? sorry for my noobieness
gh123man said:
okay. if i delete the apn i will still be able to use data over wifi right? and could someone provide instructions how how to do this? sorry for my noobieness
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Yes if you delete the APN it will not effect your use of WiFi. Thde APN is strickly for your cellular data connection.
To delete the APN you need to be booted into Android and then open your app tray. Then select Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks>Acess Point Names then just open the APN settings for your carrier and delete them one by one. I would write them down or save them somehow though in case you ever decide to get a data plan and need the AP settings back.
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Yes if you delete the APN it will not effect your use of WiFi. Thde APN is strickly for your cellular data connection.
To delete the APN you need to be booted into Android and then open your app tray. Then select Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks>Acess Point Names then just open the APN settings for your carrier and delete them one by one. I would write them down or save them somehow though in case you ever decide to get a data plan and need the AP settings back.
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Yup. Now, if you are being very careful, I would boot into Android without the SIM and delete all the APNs just in case the data connection doesn't start up automatically. Unless the APNs are somehow created upon the insertion of the SIM, then that would be pointless. (Someone else should verify this because I just started using GSM with my purchase of the HD2, so I don't know that much about it)
I have roaming selected and it works fine for calls, but I'm not able to use my data when roaming. I feel like there is a simple fix, but I can't find it.
biker57 said:
I have roaming selected and it works fine for calls, but I'm not able to use my data when roaming. I feel like there is a simple fix, but I can't find it.
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I have heard that establishing a phone call when roaming will get your phone "registered" and data will work.
deakelem said:
I have heard that establishing a phone call when roaming will get your phone "registered" and data will work.
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Thanks.....I'll give it a try next time
I tried using a phone call while roaming, but it didn't work for my data.
biker57 said:
Thanks.....I'll give it a try next time
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Do you happen to know who the roaming provider is at the time?
deakelem said:
Do you happen to know who the roaming provider is at the time?
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Verizon I belive
I had this issue and seemed to fix it by going into the roaming settings, unchecking allow domestic data and rechecking it. Worth a shot I guess...
I bought the H910 unlocked ATT version. Everything works fine except the Messages app. It sometimes says it cannot backup and sync text messages, and everytime a group message or a message with pictures come over, it would ask me to download, but the download always fails after 5/5 attempts.
Anyone knows how to fix this?
I have the same issues. I noticed it usually happens to me on wifi. Once i turn that off, it usually works then. Also im using the tmobile branded V20
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I manually deleted the APN in the phone, and added the tmobile APN. Now I can receive group/multimedia messages, but I cannot send one... This is very annoying...
zhangla said:
I manually deleted the APN in the phone, and added the tmobile APN. Now I can receive group/multimedia messages, but I cannot send one... This is very annoying...
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are you on wifi?
raven213 said:
are you on wifi?
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Yes I am on Wifi. Do I need to disable Wifi to send multimedia text messages? that would be strange...
zhangla said:
Yes I am on Wifi. Do I need to disable Wifi to send multimedia text messages? that would be strange...
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yes you do im not sure why though lol or you can do what i did. go to settings-developer options- and enable cellular data always active. i have unlimited data and stuff and mms will work on wifi
raven213 said:
yes you do im not sure why though lol or you can do what i did. go to settings-developer options- and enable cellular data always active. i have unlimited data and stuff and mms will work on wifi
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Cellular data always active - does this mean I will be using LTE data all the time even though I am on wifi? that would be so wasteful.... I have only 2G per month.