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Sprint's LTE to Launch On 1900MHz Only

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=9639

http://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=355
"about LTE TECHNOLOGY"

But once they have migrated boost customers to cdma the 800mhz iden spectrum will be used for lte which should be pretty great for building penetration.
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LORDFIRE00 said:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=9639
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For now......

So if Sprint latter switches to 800mhz, would existing 1900mhz LTE phones be able to take advantage?

dtugg said:
So if Sprint latter switches to 800mhz, would existing 1900mhz LTE phones be able to take advantage?
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If the radio supports both frequencies.
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stilesja said:
But once they have migrated boost customers to cdma the 800mhz iden spectrum will be used for lte which should be pretty great for building penetration.
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From what I heard, they were actually aquisitioning the 800MHz band from their Nextel networks, not Boost.

ErantyInt said:
From what I heard, they were actually aquisitioning the 800MHz band from their Nextel networks, not Boost.
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Boost and nextel both use iden and must be assimilated.
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Is a switch fom 2500Mhz (wimax) a big of enough difference to 1900Mhz (LTE)? Also i dont think 800Mhz is really a good thing, at least for sprint, that means they have to build more towers because lower frequencies dont travel as far.

latindor17 said:
Is a switch fom 2500Mhz (wimax) a big of enough difference to 1900Mhz (LTE)? Also i dont think 800Mhz is really a good thing, at least for sprint, that means they have to build more towers because lower frequencies dont travel as far.
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Sprint already has a buttload of 800MHz towers. Will probably build more.

Lower the frequency the further it travels guys...
Low frequency means longer wavelength.
Longer wavelengths can diffract around obstacles, through passageways and even penetrate into building easier.

a454nova said:
Lower the frequency the further it travels guys...
Low frequency means longer wavelength.
Longer wavelengths can diffract around obstacles, through passageways and even penetrate into building easier.
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Then what's the advantage of higher frequencies? I know there's one, but I can't remember.
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Google RF propagation.
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xboxfanj said:
Then what's the advantage of higher frequencies? I know there's one, but I can't remember.
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It's cheaper and more abundant making it faster.
So lets say you get 2mbps of speed for every 2mhz of spectrum.
To avoid confusion we'll call 1900mhz band spectrum, PCS, and 800mhz band spectrum, SMR.
PCS =1900mhz range. SMR =800mhz range.
SMR can have twice the coverage radius compared to PCS band spectrum.
You have $3 billion to spend on spectrum. You can buy PCS band spectrum at $100million per mhz and SMR band spectrum at $500 million per mhz. Which do you buy?
It takes 10mhz to get 10mbps of speed which is $1billion worth of PCS band spectrum or $5 billion (out of budget) worth of SMR band to make a 10mbps network.
Which way would you go? It really depends on your target market but in general you want to appeal to both urban city dwellers as well as rural communities.
You could go all PCS band for the absolute max speed at the cost of poorer coverage or all SMR band for better coverage at the cost of much lower speed; but which is best?
I would say neither, buy a combination to satisfy both demands. Sure you may not get the max speed but you give customers a reasonably fast speed in urban areas and better coverage at a lower speed for rural and fringe areas. Which one do you prioritize? If your main target market is rural areas then get more of the SMR spectrum. If your target is urban then buy more PCS.
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Double post, smh
Edit: might as well use it,
I think this would make a great tower defense game. You plant as many low frequency towers in the area as possible to cover it when their are fewer enemies (customers) then add high frequency coverage in then areas more enemies go. As the town grows in population you have to add and manage more towers to keep the people happy (raising your money for more towers and score).
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Double post, smh
Edit: might as well use it,
I think this would make a great tower defense game. You plant as many low frequency towers in the area as possible to cover it when their are fewer enemies (customers) then add high frequency coverage in then areas more enemies go. As the town grows in population you have to add and manage more towers to keep the people happy (raising your money for more towers and score).
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Real talk.
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latindor17 said:
Is a switch fom 2500Mhz (wimax) a big of enough difference to 1900Mhz (LTE)? Also i dont think 800Mhz is really a good thing, at least for sprint, that means they have to build more towers because lower frequencies dont travel as far.
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You are wrong. The lower the frequency the longer the wavelength is which means it can travel farther. Why do you think Verizon's LTE is so successful? It is because Verizon's LTE is deployed on 700 Mhz which can travel really far. Lets not forget that the 700 Mhz was used for OTA analog TV so you know it had to have had great propagation for it to be viable. Clearwire uses 2500 Mhz which has short coverage but good capacity. However Clearwire would need to build several times more towers than Verizon.
Long story short the 14 Mhz of 800 Mhz spectrum that Sprint obtained from Nextel will do wonders for Sprint. Not only can Sprint put LTE at 800 Mhz for better in building penetration but Sprint can move their voice on 800 Mhz too for more coverage.

When they start using both 800 and 1900, we'll have great speed and coverage.
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I hope they'll be forward-thinking enough to allow these LTE phone radios to work on all the future available bands. Given the profit drive of the mobile industry though, that would come as a surprise. I guess we need a spec sheet or someone to do a teardown of those first LTE phones to confirm.

so, theres a buttload of 2.5 spectrum. a tiny amount of 1900 mhz, and a decent amount of 800.
when network vision is properly implemented... pending the phones radios work proper like... prolly like a year or two from now.
Person A: i'm outside, poor building penetration... look my phone is closest to a tower, i am on the 2.5 spectrum.
Person B: i'm inside a building, and the 2.5 spectrum isn't so great... lookie that, i've seamlessly on the 800mhz spectrum.
the multiple spectrums will just mean less lagg, more capacity, seamless switching, good speed, little congestion. providing the radios work properly.
i foresee in sprints future also implementing a Dish Network partnership spectrum/tower share too, now that the Lightsquared deal completely fell through. It'll help secure them in the spectrum game and Dish Network easy spread through towers.
edit: like verizon though, the initial phones may not be roaming lte friendly, equipped with all necessary frequencies. i'm not expecting the phones this year to be friendly with all potential towers. it could just be 1900 mhz first. phones a couple years from now could be 3-4 sprint lte spectrums + potential verizon/at&t roaming spectrums. we shall have to see.
~le poof~

International Note 2 at FCC already..

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/
Sweet! At least we know it's already at the FCC and will most likely be good to go.
No U.S. LTE on this one (as expected), but that's good for those of us who hope to use this on our Unlimited MediaNet plans.

I think...the N7100 version is the one everyone is waiting for. At least I am.

Je le croyais aussi.

N7100 vs N7105
I really have no idea but it appears the N7105 is international version with no LTE, at least that works with ATT. The N7100 is the model number with LTE that will work with ATT. Is this true? Negri Electronics is selling the N7100, the spec says "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100". Does this work with ATT 4G LTE? Is this the model, if you want LTE, to buy?
I preordered from Negri a week ago, but definitely want LTE in U.S.so keep order or cancel? Many websites reference in specs LTE but others call for 2 models....anyone really know. Clove U.K. simply calls device Samsung Note 2, no reference to N7100 or N7105. It clearly doesn't show in specs 4G LTE, only 3G.Handtec (U.K.) calls out phone N7100 with the following spec:"3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
So which is it? Does anyone know?

It should work because ATT operates Lte on the 1700 and 2100 bands.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
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apascual89 said:
It should work because ATT operates Lte on the 1700 and 2100 bands.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
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Yes... Same with Bell Canada LTE 700/1700/2100.
However what's confusing me is reading from the verge preview is the n7100 didn't have LTE.
Gsmarena also states this and list LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 - N7105.
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Agree
ciscostud said:
Yes... Same with Bell Canada LTE 700/1700/2100.
However what's confusing me is reading from the verge preview is the n7100 didn't have LTE.
Gsmarena also states this and list LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 - N7105.
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That's the problem seems to have conflicting opinions, like no one really knows.i just asked Negri electronics ans this is what he wrote:
Anthony - Negri Care
Hey Bob, I do see your inquiry. According to specs this unit will get the full LTE mobile data speeds but we are unable to guarantee this until they are released.
So maybe all speculation and we won't know until this device is released.

nascar24usa said:
That's the problem seems to have conflicting opinions, like no one really knows.i just asked Negri electronics ans this is what he wrote:
Anthony - Negri Care
Hey Bob, I do see your inquiry. According to specs this unit will get the full LTE mobile data speeds but we are unable to guarantee this until they are released.
So maybe all speculation and we won't know until this device is released.
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Ya... N7105 from my research looks like its the Lte version thats compatible with att and bell Canada. I'm going to wait till 100% confirmed.
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ciscostud said:
Ya... N7105 from my research looks like its the Lte version thats compatible with att and bell Canada. I'm going to wait till 100% confirmed.
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Will the 7105 be also compatible with the Rogers LTE network? Im not sure what bands Rogers uses..

Viper2005 said:
Will the 7105 be also compatible with the Rogers LTE network? Im not sure what bands Rogers uses..
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Not sure... I saw today on cloves Site they don't yet mention any 4G specs for note 2.
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SM-P605 LTE WHITE 32GB - Arrived Yesterday

I got it! Woooah baby this thing is nice! Feels like the best gsm device on the market to me. I grabbed it on ebay, $831 w/next day shipping. Wifi internet is fast. Tmobile gave me a sim and its registered on their network but they cant figure out how to get it connected yet, they have a trouble ticket out on it. Just trying to get the 200mb free for now. I have wifi tethering on my phone and 2.5gb for it at the moment.
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What does everyone think? Will there be a custom rom?
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Tmobile gave me a sim and its registered on their network but they cant figure out how to get it connected yet
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Assuming the N10.1-14 you purchased is the international version it'll never get LTE because the SM-605 doesn't support U.S. LTE bands.
You'll be able to use it on HSPA in T-Mobile's re-farmed markets that support the 3G 1900MHz band. It will work on AT&T because it supports all of their GSM bands.

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BarryH_GEG said:
Assuming the N10.1-14 you purchased is the international version it'll never get LTE because the SM-605 doesn't support U.S. LTE bands.
You'll be able to use it on HSPA in T-Mobile's re-farmed markets that support the 3G 1900MHz band. It will work on AT&T because it supports all of their GSM bands.
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Thanks. Yeah, I was aware that I couldnt get 4g on tmob. Are you saying that I can get 4g on att? How fast will it be on tmob 3g 1900 that you're talking about?
Thanks! :good:

Apache0c said:
Thanks. Yeah, I was aware that I couldnt get 4g on tmob. Are you saying that I can get 4g on att? How fast will it be on tmob 3g 1900 that you're talking about?
Thanks! :good:
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I have a SM-601 and had a N-8000 before that - both on AT&T. If you want to use the phone and messaging features you need to have it added to your plan as a "phone" not a tablet. I have it on my AT&T plan as a non-Smartphone with unlimited data for $10 a month. AT&T doesn't recognize the IMEI since it's a foreign device. The 601/605 both support up to 42MB down on HSPA networks. T-Mobile uses dual-channel so you can get (theoretically) 42MB down on their network, AT&T's limited to 21MB. I typically get between 5-8MB down on AT&T which is considered high-normal. I think T-Mobile does better than that on HSPA. Neither the 601 or 605 support T-Mobile's 700MHz AWS band so the only way to get HSPA+ speeds is in markets they've re-farmed to 1900MHz. Your local T-Mobile office can tell you if your area has been re-farmed. The problem with 1900MHz is that it and other higher frequencies don't penetrate walls well so indoor reception can be challenging.
Good luck!
P.S. - AT&T and T-Mobile call their HSPA+ networks "4G." They aren't, they're considered 3G everywhere else in the world.

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BarryH_GEG said:
I have a SM-601 and had a N-8000 before that - both on AT&T. If you want to use the phone and messaging features you need to have it added to your plan as a "phone" not a tablet. I have it on my AT&T plan as a non-Smartphone with unlimited data for $10 a month. AT&T doesn't recognize the IMEI since it's a foreign device. The 601/605 both support up to 42MB down on HSPA networks. T-Mobile uses dual-channel so you can get (theoretically) 42MB down on their network, AT&T's limited to 21MB. I typically get between 5-8MB down on AT&T which is considered high-normal. I think T-Mobile does better than that on HSPA. Neither the 601 or 605 support T-Mobile's 700MHz AWS band so the only way to get HSPA+ speeds is in markets they've re-farmed to 1900MHz. Your local T-Mobile office can tell you if your area has been re-farmed. The problem with 1900MHz is that it and other higher frequencies don't penetrate walls well so indoor reception can be challenging.
Good luck!
P.S. - AT&T and T-Mobile call their HSPA+ networks "4G." They aren't, they're considered 3G everywhere else in the world.
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Nice! Thanks! :good:

Connect to US service
Any status on connecting to T-Mobile or ATT? I'm thinking of going this same route.
Also, what plug does the charger have? I've heard these might be from a different region...
Thanks in advance!

marshwc said:
Any status on connecting to T-Mobile or ATT? I'm thinking of going this same route.
Also, what plug does the charger have? I've heard these might be from a different region...
Thanks in advance!
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There's no mystery. Either the P-SM601 or P-SM605 will get 3G on AT&T and on T-Mobile in markets they've re-farmed to 1900MHz. If you add either device to an AT&T Family Share plan it's now only $15 a month including unlimited voice and MMS since you're "bringing your own."

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There's no mystery. Either the P-SM601 or P-SM605 will get 3G on AT&T and on T-Mobile in markets they've re-farmed to 1900MHz. If you add either device to an AT&T Family Share plan it's now only $15 a month including unlimited voice and MMS since you're "bringing your own."
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Thanks for the confirmation. Our wireless account is on Sprint, so if I went this route it would be a new account, but I do have friends on T-Mobile so I might be able to join them.
According to the T-Mobile plans from a year ago, San Diego was supposed to be re-farmed this past year. I suppose it would be nice to know that was done, and that someone has been successful getting the device connected.
I'll probably wait until after CES to see if there are any new announcements.

HTC M9+ on VZW 700 band LTE

Hey team, surely we can figure this out. I have an M8, rooted on VZW in the USA. I am going to buy an M9+ on amazon purely for fun. On PhoneArena, it specifies that it does recieve 700 band LTE, VZW's main LTE band. VZW owns the 700MHz Upper Block C (band 13) so I believe it will be compatible, just not with XLTE, which uses band 4 (1700MHz). Just looking for someone selling one or any tricks thanks!

Don't forget that Verizon is CDMA based while the M9+ is GSM only. Even if Verizon uses SIM cards for LTE & device might not work. Also note that LTE is only used for data, so even if it did work, you'll probably not get voice calls.

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Don't forget that Verizon is CDMA based while the M9+ is GSM only. Even if Verizon uses SIM cards for LTE & device might not work. Also note that LTE is only used for data, so even if it did work, you'll probably not get voice calls.
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Thanks! That's a great point as well. My speculation is that the VoLTE for Verizon, which utilizes the 700 band. So maybe VoLTE would still work. I'm sure an M9/M8 Sense 7 rom port could work.. Verizon also is CDMA dominant but supports international GSM. So my dinners are crossed. Comments? Questions?
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http://www.htc.com/sea/smartphones/htc-one-m9-plus/
4G LTE:
FDD: Bands 1,3,5,7,8,28
TDD: Bands 38, 39, 40, 41
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Asian 700MHz band is different from the North American ones.

stephenju said:
http://www.htc.com/sea/smartphones/htc-one-m9-plus/
Asian 700MHz band is different from the North American ones.
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Of course, just wish there was a way to swap antennae/get a NA M9+ lol
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Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area:
I believe 4G is LTE. Weird thing is it didn't find AT&T 4G (Cricket is on AT&T). Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands they are.

stephenju said:
Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area:
I believe 4G is LTE. Weird thing is it didn't find AT&T 4G (Cricket is on AT&T). Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands are they.
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Oh really? F*ckin juicy.. Sane thing, my Nexus is unlocked and finds T-Mo, Sprint and VZW, no AT&T. So will it work?! (in theory)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/how-to-change-network-bands-gsm-devices-t3135401
It's sad i can't find the following directory in my M9+.
/sys/devices/virtual/android_usb/android0/f_diag
Maybe somebody have the enough knowledge to help dig the bands in MTK SoC.

stephenju said:
Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area:
I believe 4G is LTE. Weird thing is it didn't find AT&T 4G (Cricket is on AT&T). Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands they are.
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I have used the M9+ in DC on the Cricket network and I only get 3G. I think there are ways by which bands can be unlocked. I remember having a similar thing back when I was using the One X.
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stephenju said:
Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area:
I believe 4G is LTE. Weird thing is it didn't find AT&T 4G (Cricket is on AT&T). Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands they are.
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Band 4 AWS

stephenju said:
Now I did find these networks when doing a network scan with my TW version of M9+ in Boston area..
Unfortunately I can't find a way to see which bands they are.
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Band 4 AWS
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By TW do you mean Taiwanese? I am assured this is an authentic Taiwanese HTC, I was checking on the Uh Oh Protection. Is the band 4 AWS correct? Is that the part of the 700 band that is shared by most LTE networks?
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Well, I pulled the trigger. After seeing your screenshots, I'm going with the M9+.
Just selling my M8 for ~$450.
denver.craigslist.org/mob/5174687185.html
Just bought this gold on silver baddie for ~$582!!
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Band 4 AWS is 1700/2100 not 700MHz.

droidBOOST said:
Well, I pulled the trigger. After seeing your screenshots, I'm going with the M9+.
Just sold my M8 for ~$470.
Just bough this gold on silver baddie for ~$582!!
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I would suggest that you cancel the order if you still can. Even if it does somehow support Vz 700 or AWS band, which I strongly doubt, you won't be able to make calls since Vz use CDMA for that. M9+ probably doesn't support VoLTE either so you end up with a 5.2 inch tablet at best.

stephenju said:
I would suggest that you cancel the order if you still can. Even if it does somehow support Vz 700 or AWS band, which I strongly doubt, you won't be able to make calls since Vz use CDMA for that. M9+ probably doesn't support VoLTE either so you end up with a 5.2 inch tablet at best.
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AWS should work. I route most my calling over Wi-Fi/data anyways. If calling doesn't work, I am going to use the Project Fi sim from my Nexus 6. I'm on Wi-Fi literally almost everywhere. I wonder if anyone has thought of flashing the M9 dialer over to the M9+. I've edited my scripts and got VoLTE to work for my HTC M8 with something similar. Any dev suggestions?
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Update
Got the M9+ today and it's stunning, of course. It's not surprising that it won't with Verizon, but it is a great phone. Still looking into Project Fi.
My VZW should allow you to connect to Verizon.. haha just the phone.
Will update with more info upon Fi-ing/root.
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droidBOOST said:
Update
Got the M9+ today and it's stunning, of course. It's not surprising that it won't with Verizon, but it is a great phone. Still looking into Project Fi.
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Is this with Vz SIM card?
Anyways, I don't think it works with any US LTE network. It probably picked up the 2100MHz downlink part of AWS in the network search. Since it lacks the 1700MHz uplink part, it can't really use it. You are better off switch to AT&T or TMO and use their 1900MHz 3G (HSDPA+, US carriers call it 4G) networks.

stephenju said:
Is this with Vz SIM card?
Anyways, I don't think it works with any US LTE network. It probably picked up the 2100MHz downlink part of AWS in the network search. Since it lacks the 1700MHz uplink part, it can't really use it. You are better off switch to AT&T or TMO and use their 1900MHz 3G (HSDPA+, US carriers call it 4G) networks.
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Its a Verizon sim out of my M8, currently active. I think it works on the LTE so it picks up the 4G network, but without the CDMA backbone it wont connect. Says it will work on any GSM network in the US, maybe flip it here in the states instead of selling it. Any root suggestions?
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LTE on AT&T

Anyone who purchased the unlocked version of this phone and who's carrier is AT&T, do you have consistent 4G coverage? I find my phone spends most of the time on H+. I contacted AT&T and had them provision it to allow connection to the LTE network and while at times it does connect in certain areas it does not connect as my wife's sg8 does. The speeds are also not as fast as she sees on her sg8. I feel like I have to conclude it does not support all of AT&T's bands. I wonder if this is hardware or software limited. Any thoughts?

dantegl36 said:
Anyone who purchased the unlocked version of this phone and who's carrier is AT&T, do you have consistent 4G coverage? I find my phone spends most of the time on H+. I contacted AT&T and had them provision it to allow connection to the LTE network and while at times it does connect in certain areas it does not connect as my wife's sg8 does. The speeds are also not as fast as she sees on her sg8. I feel like I have to conclude it does not support all of AT&T's bands. I wonder if this is hardware or software limited. Any thoughts?
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IDK if a software update can/would enable more band support,I sure hope so:
A call to ASUS is in order,to get then to specify exactly which LTE Bands are supported.
Reason I say this is because some other sites are listing the specs as full (or close to it) LTE Support for North American markets & for using my 8GB/128GB model on T-Mobile US ,this does not seem to be the case:
At my current location,I am getting only Band 2 LTE on T-Mobile,which is a fallback band,along with Band 12.
Band 4 is the predominate LTE Band for T-Mobile in virtually all markets they service (w/a few exceptions,where Band 12 is primary).
I should be pulling in Band 4 with no problem,I've reset network settings & this changes nothing,along with trying an alternative T-Mobile APN.
I'm able to connect to Band 2 LTE,UMTS,HSPA+,but AFAICT,no Band 4 support & from my best guess,;looking around @ ASUS,no Band 12 support either.
Not trying to hijack the thread & turn it into a T-Mobile LTE Thread,just letting you know AT&T apparently isn't the only network that is sparse in connectivity to this phone in North America.
If nothing else,a word of caution to those considering buying this phone,get the word directly from ASUS regarding LTE Connectivity with your service provider.
Chances are the support isn't as good as some other similarly priced global phones on the market.
I can live with just Band 2 LTE ,if coverage is strong in my town,I've yet to try it out in all surrounding areas.
If coverage is spotty,I'm boxing it back up & sending it back.
FWIW,here's a .PDF from ASUS listing the LTE Band support for the AR & a few other devices:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=...bility/ASUS_ZenFone_Network_Compatibility.pdf
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Anyone got ideas/input on how/if more bands can be turned on/etc... (if the hardware supports it),by all means,please jump in. :good:

Their seem to three vibrants
1) Verizon LTE band 2/4.
2) global LTE band 2.
3)north America LTE band 2/4/12.
How do tell the different between global and north America vibrants??
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