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OK so from what I can gather looking at this forum and various stuff on the web the issues with this phone are (not in order of importance)
1. UI lags. However, this can be overcome via a 3rd party launcher and some 'Nand' hacks? which pardoxicallly means limited app memory again !
2. The GPS is unreliable. It can be fine one time and refuse to lock on another time?
3. The WiFi connection is also unstable for many users?
4. The battery life is not very good out of the box but improves after a few recharges? However, its still difficult to get a full day if using it heavily?
5. Samsung have a poor record when it comes to updates. There is no guarantee when / if the phone will be updated so it should be bought based solely on the features it has today?
Have I got this about right ? Anything missing or just wrong ? Are there any known fixes for issues 2 and 3 above.
Please note this not an attack on the phone I am considering buying and, as much as possible, I want to understand upfront what the issues are.
Don't forget Kies is rubbish and there's no apps for Android on the Kies marketplace, despite what the manual says.
If you are on a Mac (and presumably Linux) you have to enable USB debugging mode to be able to mount it as a USB storage device.
1 and 2 applies to my phone and I must be having a memory leak issue. My available memory drops pretty steadily throughout the day even after killing all the apps with a task manager. I need to reboot once or twice a day or the phone dips below 100mb. My guess is this is also the cause of the laggy UI.
My gps is quick to get a fix but it drops often for no good reason.
The wifi has been flawless for me, I'm on a 802.11n only network.
My battery is ok, not great but not bad either.
I still love this phone and I would buy again even with these minor annoyances.
Wifi wont reconnect when waking up from standby mode...(sometimes)
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1- pretty minor problem IMO, i don't bump into it a lot. Let's see what samsung will do.
2- From what i see, after upgrading a firmware the problem is solved, in most of the cases.
3- Seen reports, but i didn't bump into problems with it even once.
4- After comparing with a nexus one, an HTC desire and a motorola milestone, i can clearly say that currently, after 5-7 charges, the SGS has the best battery in the android market.
I manage to squeeze over 3 days of moderate use from my device, or 2 days of heavy use.
5- I can't really say anything about it, samsung does have a poor support record for it's devices.
I'm running firmware XXJF3
1.Lag) applies to me, with any launcher. it's ok most of the time, but when it happens it is very annoying.
2.GPS) No problems so far. Not using it much for navigation, thus. Just for stuff like checking into foursquare and buzz.
3.WiFi) No problems now. I had a strange problem with wlan not working at all at my first day with the device, but I did a factory reset once and since then I never had any problems with networking anymore.
4.battery life) Everything just as with the nexus one or G1: I need to charge it at least once a day, unless I do not really use it.
5.update support) It's annoying, and it's a shame. But except for the nexus one, there are not really better alternatives with better update support out there. At least here in Europe. Motorola and HTC and Sony all abandon their devices after a few month as well.
We can only hope that Samsung thinks this is something that is worth doing better than in the past, and better than the competition currently does. Or that building custom ROMs based on upcoming Android Versions on the Galaxy S is not going to be as difficult as psychoace thinks.
If Samsung fixes the blackout/lag issues soon with a new firmware, I'm going to keep the device. Most of the time it is a great mobile. I even like touchwiz 3.
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OK so from what I can gather looking at this forum and various stuff on the web the issues with this phone are (not in order of importance)
1. UI lags. However, this can be overcome via a 3rd party launcher and some 'Nand' hacks? which pardoxicallly means limited app memory again !
2. The GPS is unreliable. It can be fine one time and refuse to lock on another time?
3. The WiFi connection is also unstable for many users?
4. The battery life is not very good out of the box but improves after a few recharges? However, its still difficult to get a full day if using it heavily?
5. Samsung have a poor record when it comes to updates. There is no guarantee when / if the phone will be updated so it soils be bought based solely on the features it has today?
Have I got this about right ? Anything missing or just wrong ? Are there any known fixes for issues 2 and 3 above.
Please note this not an attack on the phone I am considering buying and, as much as possible, I want to understand upfront what the issues are.
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1. Yes I get lag. Very irritating on the supposed "most powerful phone around". On original jf 3 firmware though, but will surely try the new rom from modaco as I don't think I could live with this in the long term.
2. Only time I tried to use google navigation, it let me down badly.
3. Generally been ok but for the first time today I had wifi icon but no internet connection. Had to restart phone (toggling had no effect).
I've had other issues as well, complete lock ups, mass storage randomly not working, and other weird seemingly random behaviour.
Overall, so far this has been a frustrating device to live with. Things can only get better I hope.
Latest firmware seems to have solved almost all of these "problems"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718621
Latest firmware released today solved the lag problem.
Not sure about the others. never had problems with the GPS.
Wifi connection was solved 2 firmwares ago
Hi,
i noticed months ago the following on my IDEOS X5 (german) concerning bad battery life. It could be the reason why there are so many different reports regarding bettery lifetime of the U8800.
First - why did I start to investigate: because the phone sucked about 5-10% per hour while not beeing used / lying on my desk, so after max 20 hours the battery was empty. But this did/does not always happen....
What I did: it took some time to get used to android (its my first droid) and learn how to troubleshoot. A month after I got this phone I learned that the GSM-code *#*#4636#*#* will show you very useful information concenring battery/phone usage. I started to play around with the phone (factory reset, install/remove apps, enable/disable different options like 2G/3G/WLAN etc...) always keeping an eye on the 4636-infos.
Result: When I use WLAN the phone simetimes enters an "state" when it never again enters "sleep state" and the battery gets sucked as stated above. I switched off WLAN for a week and this did not occur while standby time increased to 48 hours and 4636 stated an "phone awake" percentage of below 20% (normal usage). Once I reenabled WLAN again it took about an day of WLAN usage to reproduce the bug and "phone awake" time increased to 100% while standby time decreased to below 20 hours. ONLY rebooting the device recovers from this "state". I further noticed that this does not happen if just WLAN is available but no 2G/3G (phone had no SIM). My conclusion is, that the
"You May Be Charged"-Popup is the culprit. It does lock the phone to this "state" for some reason, mybe when the WLAN connection is dropped while the phone is not used (traveling). Can someone reproduce this on his phone (maybe not german)?
Resolution: IMHO none. I send the device twice to reseller for service. First time the complete mainboard was changed without success regarding the battery drain. Second time nothing was done - they just returned the device to me.
Thanks.
This is a known problem, that already has a thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
This is affecting ALL Froyo Roms, if you want battery life, install Oxygen or CM7...which are based on Gingerbread.
There is no point in discussing this issue anymore, this is a very well known problem and Huawei doesn't care.
Sending the phone back to manufacturer won't help at all.
Thank you for the hint - it realy looks like the same issue. Knowing more about the nature of this issue could give people not willing to install custom roms a possible solution. Can someone move this thread over to that one?
katu2006 said:
This is a known problem, that already has a thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1043760
This is affecting ALL Froyo Roms, if you want battery life, install Oxygen or CM7...which are based on Gingerbread.
There is no point in discussing this issue anymore, this is a very well known problem and Huawei doesn't care.
Sending the phone back to manufacturer won't help at all.
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But Huawei is about to release official 2.3 in Q3 atleast I hope...
andreasha said:
But Huawei is about to release official 2.3 in Q3 atleast I hope...
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Everyone is looking forward to official 2.3, but we'll have to wait and see if the "sleep" bug will be sorted.
katu2006 said:
Everyone is looking forward to official 2.3, but we'll have to wait and see if the "sleep" bug will be sorted.
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I hope some more bugs are straightened out like headphones and internal mic at the same time. Headset button to work. Battery time!
none of my android phones could use the phone's mic when headphones were plugged in
I saw a solution for the mic-with-headphones-problem a few days ago, either here or at modaco (do not know if it is confirmed working though).
fajabird, I know that you want this to work with the ROMs provided by Huawei. Huawei obviously does not care too much about providing the community with updates (they do not even have gingerbread-support by now). This is the downside of this low priced phone.
Let me just say this: It took me about one hour to understand the ultimate-guide at modaco. It took me another hour to decide which ROM I want to use. If anything goes wrong at the installation I can easily start over again. Now I have a fully working phone with Android 2.3.5 with a battery that lasts at least 2 days, sometimes 3(if I do not play any games within that time). Of course I understand that you are probably very pissed at Huawei for providing a ROM with a bug that serious.
if you find that fix again, let us know where to look
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if you find that fix again, let us know where to look
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It is to be found at the Android-development-section, right here. Note that you cannot use the mic of your headset after applying this
too bad, it would be awesome to be able to use both
XphX said:
I saw a solution for the mic-with-headphones-problem a few days ago, either here or at modaco (do not know if it is confirmed working though).
fajabird, I know that you want this to work with the ROMs provided by Huawei. Huawei obviously does not care too much about providing the community with updates (they do not even have gingerbread-support by now). This is the downside of this low priced phone.
Let me just say this: It took me about one hour to understand the ultimate-guide at modaco. It took me another hour to decide which ROM I want to use. If anything goes wrong at the installation I can easily start over again. Now I have a fully working phone with Android 2.3.5 with a battery that lasts at least 2 days, sometimes 3(if I do not play any games within that time). Of course I understand that you are probably very pissed at Huawei for providing a ROM with a bug that serious.
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Hi, thank you for sharing your experience with me. I always wanted to update to some custom roms but the time I started investigating this issue there was no stable one out there. On the other hand I thought there might be a dev interessted in more details regarding this issue helping him to sort out this nasty bug for whatever reason.
Can someone tell me, if his U8800 also has the ambient light sensor but like mine does: it won't reduce the brightness, just increase works. Thanks.
fajabird said:
Hi, thank you for sharing your experience with me. I always wanted to update to some custom roms but the time I started investigating this issue there was no stable one out there. On the other hand I thought there might be a dev interessted in more details regarding this issue helping him to sort out this nasty bug for whatever reason.
Can someone tell me, if his U8800 also has the ambient light sensor but like mine does: it won't reduce the brightness, just increase works. Thanks.
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Mine reduces brightness but does it quite weird sometimes like adjusting several times without the light around me changing...
Mine always adjusts it way too low. If I am inside the brightness is always on minimum. I use the power-widget on the homescreen. I only change it at night, it is on max. for the whole day (the max. brightness is still kinda low, especially if it's sunny).
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Hi,
i noticed months ago the following on my IDEOS X5 (german) concerning bad battery life. It could be the reason why there are so many different reports regarding bettery lifetime of the U8800.
First - why did I start to investigate: because the phone sucked about 5-10% per hour while not beeing used / lying on my desk, so after max 20 hours the battery was empty. But this did/does not always happen....
What I did: it took some time to get used to android (its my first droid) and learn how to troubleshoot. A month after I got this phone I learned that the GSM-code *#*#4636#*#* will show you very useful information concenring battery/phone usage. I started to play around with the phone (factory reset, install/remove apps, enable/disable different options like 2G/3G/WLAN etc...) always keeping an eye on the 4636-infos.
Result: When I use WLAN the phone simetimes enters an "state" when it never again enters "sleep state" and the battery gets sucked as stated above. I switched off WLAN for a week and this did not occur while standby time increased to 48 hours and 4636 stated an "phone awake" percentage of below 20% (normal usage). Once I reenabled WLAN again it took about an day of WLAN usage to reproduce the bug and "phone awake" time increased to 100% while standby time decreased to below 20 hours. ONLY rebooting the device recovers from this "state". I further noticed that this does not happen if just WLAN is available but no 2G/3G (phone had no SIM). My conclusion is, that the
"You May Be Charged"-Popup is the culprit. It does lock the phone to this "state" for some reason, mybe when the WLAN connection is dropped while the phone is not used (traveling). Can someone reproduce this on his phone (maybe not german)?
Resolution: IMHO none. I send the device twice to reseller for service. First time the complete mainboard was changed without success regarding the battery drain. Second time nothing was done - they just returned the device to me.
Thanks.
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Hey there friend, I've detailed much of this and been through a lot of troubleshooting. It did not appear to be the "You may be charged" popup as I disabled that whenever I changed ROMs. I never did get a solution for any of the Huawei ROMs, it just seemed like bad code as Dzo pointed out with the WiFi driver.
A very simple solution for me was installing one of the 2.3 ROMs, they are quite stable at the moment, especially Oxygen (although I use MIUI). You will find much better battery life with these.
Best of luck,
Ryan
My stock rom 2.2.1 Shows Android System 97% battery usage and battery drains 50% in 19minutes! With wi-fi, 3g, Bluetooth, everything is off and even i do not use it.
Flash latest official 2.2.2, wait for official 2.3, flash the custom 2.2.2 rom void or flash a custom 2.3 rom. I would recommend flashing the latest 138 or 162 to get the latest modem baseband or manually install the AMSS.bin.
Sent from my Ideos x5
andreasha said:
Flash latest official 2.2.2, wait for official 2.3, flash the custom 2.2.2 rom void or flash a custom 2.3 rom. I would recommend flashing the latest 138 or 162 to get the latest modem baseband or manually install the AMSS.bin.
Sent from my Ideos x5
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I can't because phone do not use my external SD card somehow. In android i see files but in recovery-it does not use external sd.. I ask in forum why-but nobody answers
Backup ur data on it and format it. If that doesnt work ill send you a guide how i fixed mine, its just a partition error.
Sent from my Ideos x5
andreasha said:
Backup ur data on it and format it. If that doesnt work ill send you a guide how i fixed mine, its just a partition error.
Sent from my Ideos x5
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I formated it via phone, then via PC - it works in powered on phone in android, but in recovery it doesn't it only sees sdcard as internal memory, if i try mount sd-ext shows error, can't mount.
Also i have problem if i use pc to copy some files to internal memory-phone switches storage mode OFF! and i can't copy files to internal 2GB memory..strange
Hey guys,
I've test ICS and came across the need to do a supercharge.
Now I'm back to CM7.1 and I've been wondering what the method is to get it supercharged as well (and 7.2 KANG along the way).
The shell script part is pretty understandable, but I'm unable to understand whether or not I need to replace services.jar in the update zip. If I do need to do so, then which services.jar file do I need to put in there (there's a quite a few and some of them didn't work for me when I jumped and tried to do it myself).
Thanks in advance.
I made a guide for supercharging ICS with the proper services.jar for the nook here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508481
Works like a charm, really.
If you want to use the script on any version of CM7, the ROM needs no modification. Leave the services.jar as is. The guide still works, skip to step 5 but just remember to unselect Lock Home in Memory in the device settings.
Look at the second post if you would rather the short and sweet version. The top post attempts to explain exactly what you are doing to your device and why.
Thanks for the quick reply.
It just so happens that I have followed (and bookmarked) your guide when getting my ICS
Unfortunately, I have tried the 3/3 Opengl and it had many lockups.
Any ICS you would recommend? (I know it's a bit off-topic, sorry).
Yeah, I know what you mean. I can't run OpenGL on a daily basis yet either. But the b
Yeah, I know what you mean. I can't run OpenGL on a daily basis yet either. But the builds without OpenGL work great. The threads can be a little hard to follow, what with their length and all the custom zips, I know, but he actual builds themselves are great.
I kept going back to 7.2 after checking in and trying a nightly. But maybe ten days ago, the audio from Nook Tweaks got patched, and know I can listen to movies and music at an acceptable level and I realized it was ready enough for me.
Really, the last thing on my list would be an enabled net filter, to run a firewall. But I am super-impressed with ROM.
Hope that helps. Just all of a sudden, it seemed ready.
Just to clarify, you're satisfied with the 3/3 rom w/o opengl?
Sent from my NookColor using XDA
Yep, I have been testing a bunch of programs on ICS over the last three weeks or so, and while flashing the nightlies over that time, the last couple things that I needed came through the repo. When the patch for the audio boost in Nook tweaks came through, I could use the movie and music players and finally hear them, which was a huge gain for the users. The VPN that I use works, Sync works. Almost every system app has been greatly improved.
Don't get me wrong, there are some big holes to be filled. Flash works only with OpenGL, which I find still to be too buggy and slow for daily use (although some have been reporting fine daily use), and I can't seem to find a firewall that blocks apps from the internet, which is a pet issue of mine. If you want to customize your launcher and overall look and feel, then those features will likely be the last to come around. I don use YouTube and the like hardly ever, but nonHD videos play only.
The progress is brisk, though. I spend maybe fifteen minutes upgrading the nightly as I go to bed at night, the builds seem to add a huge chunk of functionality every day.
One last tip I only recently discovered: people have complained about battery life, but I found it mostly analagous to cm7 with the major exception that deep sleep seemed fitful at best. I just realized that deep sleep doesn't seem to work when I shut the screen off manually. If I let it time out naturally (if it can be said to be natural, then it sleeps with no problem. Now battery life seems totally acceptable.
Just depends what you need to work, I guess, but this is my only real computer when I am away from home for work, and I use it daily now.
Hi all,
Currently looking for an upgrade from my Moto G and have a specific list of requirements (long-ish battery life, cheap-ish, ideally fast charging, ideally ANT+, ideally waterproof, accurate GPS for tracking runs) which the S5 seems to meet well. Only thing I dont think I could live with is TouchWiz (and the assosciated lag I would expect it would bring with it).
My question: how is CM running on these devices with regards stability and force closes etc. Can live with a small dip in camera quality and having never had a fingerprint scanner I wont miss it but really need a rock solid, stable device. Is there a better alternative out there (am also closely considering the Zuk - but not waterproof and possibly patchy GPS - and the Moto X Play - slightly more expensive and reports of lag)?
I'm currently running CM13 on my KLTE, and it honestly seems fine.
Battery life is just under 4hrs SOT.
It charges pretty fast IMO (About an hour and a little bit with a constant 1800mA @ 4.5V)
Though was I've read in a quick Google search is that CM doesn't support ANT+ ever since the s4 branch.
Never had issues when the phone's been blessed with water, Its a pretty tight seal all around.
GPS is accurate. I usually get a fix within the first ten seconds. Mind you I use GPS Status to download AGPS info to help.
I rarely get force closes but there are the occasional soft reboots with the phone, which seems to put it in a boot-loop when it does. But that could be my configuration of Xposed and other modifications that do that.
i dont like the in-use battery life at all, deep sleep life is insanely improved on CM13 i assume due to doze, you can buy third party extra large batteries that are also a replacement for the back cover
cm-12.1-20151226-NIGHTLY-klte = quite stable, think i had only a couple minor bugs, no crashes, my baseband is a little old, i tried some gps app from fdroid during a walk & it was as if the calibration kept changing... i passed the same spot more than once, it would be too far north one time then too far southeast another time & so on, but maybe it was storing literal data points (some other apps, especially map apps i would assume they might auto align themselves to roads), crashed the camera when using opencamera too fast or switching between it & stock camera, opencamera couldnt do 60 or 120fps videos even though the option was set
cm-13.0-20160116-NIGHTLY-klte = turning flashlight off kills camera (& the flashlight tile) until reboot, i was going through menus fast or something, the status bar crashed & then soft reboot was frozen on the loading face icon, i was hoping snapdragoncamera was enabled cuz i see it in changelogs, but i still see stock camera unfortunately...
charging is quite fast, from 0 to ~80% at least (this is normal for about every device anyway)
i havent tried any other versions yet, i dont have gapps, only been web browsing in lightning browser (from fdroid), trying kernel adiutor, notepad, little bit of camera, i dont have a SIM card yet, hope it works fine...
i believe i saw a modified TW rom that keeps the TW framework, but visually tries to be AOSP, the purpose of course is to be able to use the samsung camera & some of the other proprietary apps/features
My build is a KLTEusc smg900r4, with cm13, on first boot I had issues with the access points to the mobile network, but after I input one access point it found the rest on its own, only other issue is when sending long text messages it doesn't go through from some reason, overall very proud of it, much better than touchwiz
Hi everyone,
So I have a really really strange issue with my phone lately and that is: I get a lot of graphical corruption and random app crashes (any app, including system apps like the Samsung or Google ones), I did in the past do some overclocking but that was way more than 6 months ago and this issue just popped up about 1 month ago and my battery life is now also really short and the phone can show 40% and shut down or show 20% and shut down and then when I plug it in I get the battery charger indicator with 50%+ battery left.
Now here's an even weirder thing: that is not specific to any ROM and happens on more than one, any TW 5.1.1 ROM I try and even on CM13.
I do use multi-boot but I did test the ROMs even without a multiboot environment and those things still happen.
So I was thinking that it might be that my battery is dead (although apps say it's healthy) as I've seen phones doing that when the battery is close to dead but since I can't really purchase a new battery in my country I would like to ask if someone has an opinion on this?
Could this be a hardware defect or something broken in my "hidden" Samsung-specific partitions or is it just the battery, has anyone else encountered this?
I really would like to know how big of a chance it is that my phone is somewhat of a brick before wasting a lot of money to buy a new battery from an other country.
As you can see most of the photos I took have either missing letters or strangely colored letters but that's because that's the graphical glitches I get most, the worse ones have big parts or even half of the screen totally black, UI elements extended awkwardly with gray outlines, strange colors on-screen and missing whole UI elements.
Sorry for the potato quality....took the photos with my Redmi Note 2 with CM12.1 instead of MIUI7 cause I am too sleepy to wait for it to reboot into the other ROM (and I think I wiped the whole cache+dalvik on my last CM update so the boot would take a long time since it would need to do the whole optimization for MIUI7 as well).
Also a photo of Settings crashing, all I did was just open it, saw the settings list and after a second crash.
NOTE: I am on a 100% clean install right now (wiped EVERYTHING including internal storage) and I barely even managed to get past the setup wizard since it kept crashing.
Thanks for any help/opinions/ideas.
No one knows anything?
How can I get it
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New battery and did a full odin reflash (with SEA pit file), even updated to 6.0, bugs still here but way less frequent, crashes not here anymore after update to 6.0 but still here before even with a 5.1.1 reflash and clean install, seems like the phone is as good as gone, will try to send it to warranty to see what happens but don't expect much since "Knox Warranty Void=1".
Lesson learned: if such bugs start popping up for any of you guys even if the battery is not in a good state you'd end up better just buying a new phone since your note 4 is quite surely done and gone.