Significant changes from jb to kk? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a stock n9005 note, still on jb out of the box. I'm planning on rooting it and keep it that way until there's a safe way to root on 4.4.2.
Are there any noticeable differences, on daily usage, between the 2 os versions?
I know kk manages memory better and has other improvements under the hood, but how SIGNIFICANT is it?
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lvnatic said:
I have a stock n9005 note, still on jb out of the box. I'm planning on rooting it and keep it that way until there's a safe way to root on 4.4.2.
Are there any noticeable differences, on daily usage, between the 2 os versions?
I know kk manages memory better and has other improvements under the hood, but how SIGNIFICANT is it?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3
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To be honest i wasnt able to feel any diference at all :s, i dont know if it was me or what but it just the same, like u said theres bettery memory management and the battery icon is white... but thats pretty much it.
on a side note, it feels great to have the lastest update on your phone =D

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[Q] Help choosing between I9500 and I9505

So I'm going to buy a S4 soon, and I had the question that many of you probably had also: which version to buy?
Reading all over the internet, I9500 has better performance, but I9505 has better battery life.
Having a better battery is something really important, and that's a great point towards the I9505 (from what I've seen). But the performance differences really make any noticeable difference at all?
I don't consider LTE network a point, because here in Brazil that's something way beyond our network capabilities, and probably we won't be seeing the light of 4G in the next 5 years.
I'll be mostly using the device to listen to music, WiFi and gaming, while it should last for at least 6 hours without getting battery at critical levels, and recharging it every day for the whole night until morning. I have a I9000, and it became so awfully slow and unstable over the time, I have to make full wipes at least 3 times a month, can't install any games or "heavy" apps, and listening to music has become a pain, as everytime I unlock the screen or go to the app drawer, the sound playback lags, freezes, and sometimes reboots the phone. I am pretty sure I won't be having any of those issues with the S4, but I really don't want to get any closer to a lag with listening to music or playing.
Price is also not an issue, both models are the same price here.
And last, modifying the device, in terms of root and ROMs and such. I have to struggle everytime I want to change something like that on my I9000B, because most of the developed stuff is for the I9000 and aren't "fully compatible" with the I9000B. Are the same options for the I9500 available to the I9505? At least in the number of options, and is it easy to make root and such?
So, what do you say, xda members?
Zkaar said:
So I'm going to buy a S4 soon, and I had the question that many of you probably had also: which version to buy?
Reading all over the internet, I9500 has better performance, but I9505 has better battery life.
Having a better battery is something really important, and that's a great point towards the I9505 (from what I've seen). But the performance differences really make any noticeable difference at all?
I don't consider LTE network a point, because here in Brazil that's something way beyond our network capabilities, and probably we won't be seeing the light of 4G in the next 5 years.
I'll be mostly using the device to listen to music, WiFi and gaming, while it should last for at least 6 hours without getting battery at critical levels, and recharging it every day for the whole night until morning. I have a I9000, and it became so awfully slow and unstable over the time, I have to make full wipes at least 3 times a month, can't install any games or "heavy" apps, and listening to music has become a pain, as everytime I unlock the screen or go to the app drawer, the sound playback lags, freezes, and sometimes reboots the phone. I am pretty sure I won't be having any of those issues with the S4, but I really don't want to get any closer to a lag with listening to music or playing.
Price is also not an issue, both models are the same price here.
So, what do you say, xda members?
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I say I9505 is the best choice, because with it, you have the choice of:
1. Stock ROM/Custom ROM based on Stock
2. Google Play Edition ROM/Custom ROM based on Play Edition
3. CyanogenMod ROM or AOSP/Unofficial Kangs based on CyanogenMod4 or AOSP
This is why the I9505 will be my next device.
donalgodon said:
I say I9505 is the best choice, because with it, you have the choice of:
1. Stock ROM/Custom ROM based on Stock
2. Google Play Edition ROM/Custom ROM based on Play Edition
3. CyanogenMod ROM or AOSP/Unofficial Kangs based on CyanogenMod4 or AOSP
This is why the I9505 will be my next device.
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Good, but I'm most worried about battery and performance. but I'll surely keep that in mind when choosing. TouchWiz is not that bad, but after some time you realize that it's quite ugly and boring, also big in sizes, and lacking some customization (or maybe that's just in my head, been years since I last saw TouchWiz). And rooting is something I'll really need. Does it use an app, like one click and it's rooted, or it's a root via kernel?
cf-autoroot through ODIN... I9505 is the better option for customisation, not many countries got the I9500...
I get around 2 days with my I9505... Some gaming the odd call and quite a few emails and sms.... Not to mention GPS now and then and weather updating every 6 hours... I also use my phone as my alarm clock.
Rooting the I9505 and restoring the phone back to stock are a piece of cake bro, Triangle Away doesn`t work yet on the I9500 atm so no way to reset the binary flash counter. I would definately choose for the I9505, much more roms and kernels available to choose from.
Zkaar said:
Good, but I'm most worried about battery and performance. but I'll surely keep that in mind when choosing. TouchWiz is not that bad, but after some time you realize that it's quite ugly and boring, also big in sizes, and lacking some customization (or maybe that's just in my head, been years since I last saw TouchWiz). And rooting is something I'll really need. Does it use an app, like one click and it's rooted, or it's a root via kernel?
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Like the previous poster, I also agree that CF Root is the way to go.
It's easier to flash and root Samsung devices than just about any other.
Root with CF Root gives you stock recovery if you want to keep it and there's still the option of CWM recovery if you want to flash custom rom or backup your current rom or install zips etc.
And you have Mobile Odin as an option, which allows you to flash even stock rom from your phone. No PC needed. Same genius dev who gave us root made this tool also.
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gee2012 said:
Rooting the I9505 and restoring the phone back to stock are a piece of cake bro, Triangle Away doesn`t work yet on the I9500 atm so no way to reset the binary flash counter. I would definately choose for the I9505, much more roms and kernels available to choose from.
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Does Triangle Away work on the I9505?
donalgodon said:
Like the previous poster, I also agree that CF Root is the way to go.
It's easier to flash and root Samsung devices than just about any other.
Root with CF Root gives you stock recovery if you want to keep it and there's still the option of CWM recovery if you want to flash custom rom or backup your current rom or install zips etc.
And you have Mobile Odin as an option, which allows you to flash even stock rom from your phone. No PC needed. Same genius dev who gave us root made this tool also.
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Does Triangle Away work on the I9505?
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Yes, it does work on the I9505, not on the I9500 atm.
ultramag69 said:
cf-autoroot through ODIN... I9505 is the better option for customisation, not many countries got the I9500...
I get around 2 days with my I9505... Some gaming the odd call and quite a few emails and sms.... Not to mention GPS now and then and weather updating every 6 hours... I also use my phone as my alarm clock.
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gee2012 said:
Rooting the I9505 and restoring the phone back to stock are a piece of cake bro, Triangle Away doesn`t work yet on the I9500 atm so no way to reset the binary flash counter. I would definately choose for the I9505, much more roms and kernels available to choose from.
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donalgodon said:
Like the previous poster, I also agree that CF Root is the way to go.
It's easier to flash and root Samsung devices than just about any other.
Root with CF Root gives you stock recovery if you want to keep it and there's still the option of CWM recovery if you want to flash custom rom or backup your current rom or install zips etc.
And you have Mobile Odin as an option, which allows you to flash even stock rom from your phone. No PC needed. Same genius dev who gave us root made this tool also.
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That's more points for the I9505. I'm mostly asking if it's easy to root and flash custom ROMs because I had a hard time doing such on my three I9000Bs, all of them got bricked at some point and not always had success. But that's really good to know.
To close this and make my decision, does the I9500 CPU and GPU make any noticeable difference in performance at all? I have a friend which has the I9500 and tells me that it's way superior than the I9505, but he gives me no details at all. Also, on this review, the man says the I9500 had some instability and lags.
Zkaar said:
That's more points for the I9505. I'm mostly asking if it's easy to root and flash custom ROMs because I had a hard time doing such on my three I9000Bs, all of them got bricked at some point and not always had success. But that's really good to know.
To close this and make my decision, does the I9500 CPU and GPU make any noticeable difference in performance at all? I have a friend which has the I9500 and tells me that it's way superior than the I9505, but he gives me no details at all. Also, on this review, the man says the I9500 had some instability and lags.
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The performance difference between the 2 cpu`s is realy marginal and hardly noticable. I think the Qualcomm cpu is more stable and has less bugs and its much more open scource than the Exynos. The lag is mainly caused by the fact the Samsung software is not yet fully optimized for the cpu. It will improve by the next update bro
gee2012 said:
The performance difference between the 2 cpu`s is realy marginal and hardly noticable. I think the Qualcomm cpu is better and its much more open scource than the Exynos. The lag is caused by the fact the Samsung software is not yet fully optimized for the cpu. It will improve by the next update bro
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So I guess it's I9505 then. Both performances are really close (and great), making no difference at all (it's not like I'm trying to play Crysis on the device), but I9505 has better battery life and more ROM options.
Thanks guys, that's all I needed.
Zkaar said:
So I guess it's I9505 then. Both performances are really close (and great), making no difference at all (it's not like I'm trying to play Crysis on the device), but I9505 has better battery life and more ROM options.
Thanks guys, that's all I needed.
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Enjoy, and read read and read before flashing to stay out of trouble :good:
if you want a device that can be "played with" (customizations) go with the gt-i9505 (well this is the most flexible device among the s4 variants
but if you are a hardware enthusiast . . go with gt-i9500 (the hardware is worth studying)
but if you want an octa core + lte get the shv-e300s though it requires shipping from korea
and if you want a snapdragon800 variant , just wait for gt-i9506 (selected regions in the future) or ship from korea their SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 LTE-A (shv-e330s)
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Zkaar said:
So I guess it's I9505 then. Both performances are really close (and great), making no difference at all (it's not like I'm trying to play Crysis on the device), but I9505 has better battery life and more ROM options.
Thanks guys, that's all I needed.
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Yes your probably better off with the i9505, but i chose the exynos i9500 instead because i always prefered samsungs chipset. What others haven't mentioned, is that the camera quality on the i9500 is a little better compared to the i9505, gsmarena allready confirmed this.
In terms of audio quality, the i9500 is better choice as it has the superior Wolfson DAC.
The i9500 allready had around 6 updates, so its alot smoother and stable now compared to when it first came out, and there's already alot of developer support and custom roms for it.
In terms of battery life, i think both are the same, because before choosing my preferences between the i9500 or i9505 i did a few research aswell and searching on youtube, and each reviewer are about 50/50 on which has better battery life.
What ever you choice, you cant go wrong and both are good devices.
I will also add my weight behind the i9505 for the same reasons stated in the earlier replies. Concerning the faster CPU - the octacore exynos is not a true octacore, so in benchmarks you'll usually see the S600 v/s Exynos 5 Octa end up with an equal number of wins at the end. Sometimes the S600 is better, and other times, the Exynos will score higher. But the most interesting aspect that i personally love, is the much better support for the i9505. This is mainly due to the availability of the S4 Google Edition, where the sources can be adapted (only slightly) to work nicely with the i9505. The same cannot be said about the i9500 which is still lacking drivers, etc. At the end, it all depends on what you're going to do with the device. If you're not into installing custom ROMs, then you might be happier with the i9500.:cyclops:

[Q] Pros and Cons of upgrading to KitKat?

Hi, just got my note 3 a few days back and I was prompted to update the firmware to 4.4.
Would jsut like to know what I might gain or lose in functionality with regards to flashing/rooting etc. etc.
Also a service name Index Service has been eating mybattery ever since I started syncing dropbox, anyone in the same boat?
Much Appreciated.
Pros:
Some people claim better response, little faster speed, better battery life and gain about 300MB of RAM on clean boot.
Cons:
Change in SD card writing permission, third party programs can't write to SD card unless updated, won't work until then or you fix it manually but need root.
Can't root without tripping Knox
Can't go back to lower firmware
Third party s-view covers no longer work as designed
some other random incompatibilities with some programs, those are to be expected with any firmware update.
That's all I can remember for now.
If you use SD card with non factory installed programs, the new permissions could be a big deal especially if you want to keep your Knox flag =0
Forgot to mention under pro's, better battery life...
Most of the pro's are under the hood upgrades. You will find it is a bit faster and some little problems you experience are fixed.
As I rooted my phone 10 minutes aftr I got home I have no problems with sd card and s-view case as there is a mod for that...
Knox warranty is voided when rooted but then again the phone is fine...
I'm very content with stock version.
Particularly content with the battery life.
Personally ATM I have no problems with my Note 3 running 4.3 at all, I'm rooted with Knox=0 so I can tweak speed, battery life etc. much better than KK can and I learned (at least I should have) long time ago, don't fix it, if it ain't broke, especially that I rely on SD card a lot (would be out of memory already if didn't have card), so yeah I would have to be stupid to upgrade and then trip the Knox to root just to have the phone running as well as it's now. Of course everybody is different and for example if I had my Knox tripped already, I may have been more tempted to upgrade.
Have had zero issues since flashing Kitkat on my Note, Only thing I regret (con to me) is jumping the gun and upgrading to the new boot loader (i was running AOSP for a while) - but now I can live with a non AOSP ROM as the new boot loader is being sorted.
PROS - battery is a lot better, smoother feel of the device in general also.
ShadedCyan said:
Hi, just got my note 3 a few days back and I was prompted to update the firmware to 4.4.
Would jsut like to know what I might gain or lose in functionality with regards to flashing/rooting etc. etc.
Also a service name Index Service has been eating mybattery ever since I started syncing dropbox, anyone in the same boat?
Much Appreciated.
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No real Cons really, I feel that KitKat is alot better than JellyBean and personally, I really prefer the White Status bar icons.
About Index Service, seems it has to do with PDF files on your phone, here are some threads below to help you with fixing it. Good luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2480763
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472574
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533303
radicalisto said:
Have had zero issues since flashing Kitkat on my Note, Only thing I regret (con to me) is jumping the gun and upgrading to the new boot loader (i was running AOSP for a while) - but now I can live with a non AOSP ROM as the new boot loader is being sorted.
PROS - battery is a lot better, smoother feel of the device in general also.
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I know exactly what you mean, I felt the same way when i flash MJ6 firmware that brought the new bootloader wayy back then on JB, but eventually, It would be hard to avoid upgrading the bootloader, plus i saw some people complaining of some weird issues like charging and stuff that upgrading bootloader fixed for some reason. Lol. Anyways.. BottomLine: ENJOY your phone.
Depends on what you need.
ShadedCyan said:
Hi, just got my note 3 a few days back and I was prompted to update the firmware to 4.4.
Would jsut like to know what I might gain or lose in functionality with regards to flashing/rooting etc. etc.
Also a service name Index Service has been eating mybattery ever since I started syncing dropbox, anyone in the same boat?
Much Appreciated.
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I am very unhappy with my update, but I kinda had to as I was unfortunate enough to get one of the Note 3s that randomly reset itself. I haven't had that issue since updating, though I haven't been using it for more than the day so it could still decide to spontaneously reset itself, but all of my third party apps that access the SD card have stopped working.
Not a problem if you're rooted, but I'd like to keep my KNOX =0
As an added annoyance the Tap and Pay still doesn't work, I had hoped that the changes in 4.4 would let me use my Note 3 like I did my S3.
You should take a look at Google's KitKat page: http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/
It's very informative.
Remember that it isn't only fast, but it handles memory operations much more efficiently than on 4.3.
Battery life is also much better for me.
I've been running X-Note 10, and it has the ExtSDCard writing capability enabled again.
Running custom kernel, custom recovery and ROM with KNOX at 0x0. NB4.
nicholaschum said:
You should take a look at Google's KitKat page: http://www.android.com/versions/kit-kat-4-4/
It's very informative.
Remember that it isn't only fast, but it handles memory operations much more efficiently than on 4.3.
Battery life is also much better for me.
I've been running X-Note 10, and it has the ExtSDCard writing capability enabled again.
Running custom kernel, custom recovery and ROM with KNOX at 0x0. NB4.
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Doesn't flashing custom kernel or recovery trip Knox? If not, how did you flash these?
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dsm52 said:
Doesn't flashing custom kernel or recovery trip Knox? If not, how did you flash these?
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It only works on one particular variant of note 3 which is the N900W8. Other variants of note 3 will trip knox.
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After reading through these comments I probably would update too but I want to know one thing:
Can I update to KK without updating my bootloader ? (non rooted 4.3 MJ7)
Im asking this, because I read about updating your bootloader won't let you downgrade.
At this point in time it no longer worth it to remain in 4.3. All issues so far have been fixed or can be fixed. And also understand 4.3 is not "perfect". There are bugs in 4.3 as well that are probably fixed in 4.4.
Not to mention most of the custom rom devs don't make 4.3 roms anymore.
It's not worth it to stay in 4.3
Sheeezy said:
After reading through these comments I probably would update too but I want to know one thing:
Can I update to KK without updating my bootloader ? (non rooted 4.3 MJ7)
Im asking this, because I read about updating your bootloader won't let you downgrade.
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The 4.3 bootloader does not have the capability of booting a 4.4 ROM, hence No.
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The 4.3 bootloader does not have the capability of booting a 4.4 ROM, hence No.
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So would you advise me to upgrade to KK or to stay on JB and hope there will be some root method in near future ?
Sheeezy said:
So would you advise me to upgrade to KK or to stay on JB and hope there will be some root method in near future ?
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My 2 cents.
I dont think it's worth the hassle. The only cosmetic changes are the status bar icons- now all white and the new music lockscreen- fullscreen instead of pulldown widget.
You Lose sd card support for 3rd party apps who haven't been updated for KK. Also breaking some games: San andreas, among others (FCs) and losing features from apps: Boat Browser (Text wrapping).
You gain: Speed boost (modest at best), more available memory (RAM), Potentially better battery life (IMO 4.3 MJ7 just the same as NA6 4.4.2- other words no change in my case, YMMV)
If your not afraid of tripping knox and rooting than I'd say go for it. I don't mean to stifle your enthusiasm, just keepin it real. I will say this though, when I did update and I was unrooted for all of 10 minutes, the phone absolutely flew. Once rooted and everything back up and running the speed boost is minimal, the best word to describe it would be confident. The phone had less stutter and felt more confident (this is really nitpicking though).
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@denski101 Alright, then I'll probably stay at 4.3
I think the performance increase can't be too big, cause it flies even with 4.3 no complaining here.
Basically I dont want to risk tripping knox counter, who knows what will happen in a year with my device.
But I really do want root, but not at the price of voiding my warranty.
TL;DR
I'll stay at 4.3 for the moment and wait until there's a method to root on 4.4.2 without tripping knox.
Sheeezy said:
@denski101 Alright, then I'll probably stay at 4.3
I think the performance increase can't be too big, cause it flies even with 4.3 no complaining here.
Basically I dont want to risk tripping knox counter, who knows what will happen in a year with my device.
But I really do want root, but not at the price of voiding my warranty.
TL;DR
I'll stay at 4.3 for the moment and wait until there's a method to root on 4.4.2 without tripping knox.
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Actually. I have no complaints for 4.4. You can re-enable SD card writing for third party apps, NO FC's if you don't do something the system doesn't want you to do (TB/dirty flash) [clear cache]. The speed is much better, it's like comparing Windows 7 and Windows 8, but Windows 8 is more optimized to be much faster than Windows 7. Even though they're both great OS'es, the memory management has been drastically improved.
I have many complaints about 4.3, including delay wake/sleep, sporadic hangs and memory leaking.
On 4.4, they fixed the problematic touchscreen bug (if existent, to up to 10 fingers), battery life is much better (40 hours standby time - no display, wifi on, autosync on), faster responses in app launching, faster boot up time, more RAM for heavier background apps and all apps available on the Play Store for me works on 4.4 (Around 400 apps downloaded).
Con: You need root to re-enable SD card writing for now, until Samsung fixes it with a later update: however, most apps by now have been updated for 4.4, so this shouldn't be needed anymore. Custom ROMs allow apps that don't support 4.4 to read/write to SD card, like osu!.
Well, my expirience with KK on note 3 is amazing... way better than JB. It corrected a lot os bugs, FC, HEAT, BATTERY DRAIN... of course still have some touchwiz's bugs, like index bug... but KK way way better than JB.
Absolutely no regrets...
Same I am on MJ7 I'm happy with it but all I want is root. Don't know if I should update to 4.4 f u samsung
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is it worth buying a nexus 4 now

Hi all,
1st post in this forum, I have a samsung s3 and am forever flashing custom roms, have a chance of getting
a nexus 4 cheap-ish and will have to get rid of my s3 to pay for it. But have a couple of questions.
1 - Will i notice a big difference in speed, battery use and camera?
2. Is it easy to root and install custom roms?
I quite often flash cm/aosp roms on my s3, and although they have come a long way, still have the odd problem because of
samsung closed sources, have flashed ported kitkat 4.4 roms and they are a big improvement but still???
At the moment running Liquidsmooth aosp and its then best ive tried but still get the odd stutter on my 1gb ram based S3.
So anybody got any advice should i go for it?
cheers
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Hi all,
1st post in this forum, I have a samsung s3 and am forever flashing custom roms, have a chance of getting
a nexus 4 cheap-ish and will have to get rid of my s3 to pay for it. But have a couple of questions.
1 - Will i notice a big difference in speed, battery use and camera?
2. Is it easy to root and install custom roms?
I quite often flash cm/aosp roms on my s3, and although they have come a long way, still have the odd problem because of
samsung closed sources, have flashed ported kitkat 4.4 roms and they are a big improvement but still???
At the moment running Liquidsmooth aosp and its then best ive tried but still get the odd stutter on my 1gb ram based S3.
So anybody got any advice should i go for it?
cheers
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1. speed yes 2 gb ram on nexus 4 does better at multi tasking , battery A BIG NO , camera wise s3 is better
2.yes takes less than 5 min
display , n4 has **** washed out screen colours on default kernel , if you use hells doctor kernel it will look noticeable better
jock11 said:
Hi all,
1st post in this forum, I have a samsung s3 and am forever flashing custom roms, have a chance of getting
a nexus 4 cheap-ish and will have to get rid of my s3 to pay for it. But have a couple of questions.
1 - Will i notice a big difference in speed, battery use and camera?
2. Is it easy to root and install custom roms?
I quite often flash cm/aosp roms on my s3, and although they have come a long way, still have the odd problem because of
samsung closed sources, have flashed ported kitkat 4.4 roms and they are a big improvement but still???
At the moment running Liquidsmooth aosp and its then best ive tried but still get the odd stutter on my 1gb ram based S3.
So anybody got any advice should i go for it?
cheers
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Speed -Yes, Battery - maybe, Camera - No
Yes, its very easy.
With android 5 assured, you should go for the Nexus 4.
jock11 said:
Hi all,
1st post in this forum, I have a samsung s3 and am forever flashing custom roms, have a chance of getting
a nexus 4 cheap-ish and will have to get rid of my s3 to pay for it. But have a couple of questions.
1 - Will i notice a big difference in speed, battery use and camera?
2. Is it easy to root and install custom roms?
I quite often flash cm/aosp roms on my s3, and although they have come a long way, still have the odd problem because of
samsung closed sources, have flashed ported kitkat 4.4 roms and they are a big improvement but still???
At the moment running Liquidsmooth aosp and its then best ive tried but still get the odd stutter on my 1gb ram based S3.
So anybody got any advice should i go for it?
cheers
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You can get the N5 for around 200 bucks on ebay. I'm using both(N4 and N5) and I can totally recommend the N5 for Android enthusiastics. But the N4 is fine too.
I would go for the n5 for just a bit more money.

ANDROID 5.0 VS 4.4 in battery life?

hello, I bought galaxy s4 i9506 this week and i'm currently on 4.4 kitkat. My classmate has an S5 and he updated it to android 5.0. he says that he absolutely hate it. all the menus now look worse, camera doesn't show, if its focused and so on. but is there real improvements, like battery life? battery life is one on the most needed things in a phone. for you guys that have updates there phones, what do you feel? is the battery better or the opposite?
Are we talking about custom or stock? Cuz it does make a difference.
I went from stock kitkat to custom lollipop. It doesn't seem to make any big battery difference, if at all. But I do see better performance than stock firmware.

Note 3 Kitkat Vs Lollipop

Should i upgrade to lollipop? my note 3 n9005
iv heard some draining battery issue :v
I have the same question. I feel good with KK rom: very stable, fast, battery friend. All apps works good.
I would like to try Lollipop, but read a lot of battery drain problems, no real advantages in performance, some compatibility issues for some apps.
Is lollipop really better, at this moment for note 3?
If yes, in your opinion, why?
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I ran lollipop since it came out and recently rolled back to KK. The phone is smooth and responsive again.
You wait hours to open the recents and the phone is simply lagging after 2 or 3 days of uptime.
The lollipop UI looks better and feels more polished, but the performance is a deal breaker.
I haven't had any issues with battery life, pretty much same as KK.
Until they fix the memory leak LP will not be any where near as good as KK and with M coming out soon they very well may stop updating LP for M and make a new polish OS instead of patching LP to match KK performances. ..I'm using arya rom v5.4 and having no problems yet but performance is not better than KK and recent apps takes way to long to open ...i do like KK clean fast and battery good audio is better in KK small glitches on LP ...it just doesn't feel like it's polished enough for a high end phone
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The only way that i'll use LP, is when they release 5.1 version. Until that i stay with 4.4.2.
I'm happily staying on 4.4.2. 5.0 is unstable, looks terrible and has far too many problems.
In fact, I'm still on NB7. Yes, Februari 2014. The battery life I have is amazing, I'm not risking an update.
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Which is more frienldy for battery? KK or Lollipop?
I would say kitkat has a better stability ,smoother and more battery friendly without you doing much tweaking. Lollipop can be as good as kitkat but need tweaking.
If you are ordinary user and do not care about updates, I recommend kitkat. If you are flasholic then most likely you will move forward to Lollipop and android M soon.
N9005 Rocking with Norma v21 Lollipop + Lean 6.2
In this week I will back for KK and make a root. Half year wothout root is tiring. White settings etc now are booring for me so i back for 4.4.2 and next maybe update for 5.0 but with using Mobile Odin pro and root permission.
Very irrytating is slow react proximity sensor when i set aside from the ear after call.
Only kk
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