Hey guys, sorry i'm asking but i've searched and i cant find a certain answer.
Well, i want to update my i337M S4, to Kitkat from 4.3 official telcel/mexico firmware. And i don't know if knox will be tripped if i flash the official rom from canada with odin. Some threads says: "yes" and others "no". Anyone can help me a little please?
If you flash the ROM I believe it's a no but if you completely go to stock (and use Odin and unroot) it's a yes. Why do you want KitKat?
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Because I dont want to wait the damn firmware roll from telcel, its crap :/. And the 4.3 is full of bloatware from telcel. I'm not rooted at all, i just want to "upgrade" the fw. And thank you for helping me
Help please :'(
noidroid said:
Help please :'(
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If you're worried about tripping Knox I'd wait. But if you can live with that then the other firmware will probably work but it will come with it's own carrier crap.
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If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
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syedej123 said:
If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
anybody can help ?
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I just wanted to ask the exact same question...
But in my case it's for the I9505.
I still have the XXUBMGA Official Stock Rom with root. No KNOX bootloader, no custom rom.
I do, however want the latest Jellybean but I don't like that KNOX thing.
syedej123 said:
If i install official S4 I9500 4.3 jellybean firmware through ODIN , will it give knox 0x1 ?
just need a simple answer !
anybody can help ?
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I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
dinci5 said:
I just wanted to ask the exact same question...
But in my case it's for the I9505.
I still have the XXUBMGA Official Stock Rom with root. No KNOX bootloader, no custom rom.
I do, however want the latest Jellybean but I don't like that KNOX thing.
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Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
Lennyz1988 said:
I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
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Thank you !
Lennyz1988 said:
I would stay away from the official firmware. Read the Knox Q&A for more answers.
Same goes for you, stay away from official firmwares and just wait for a custom rom with 4.3.
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Thank you...
So you saying that the costum roms don't have the KNOX bootloader?
Honestly, I didn't really follow up on everything regarding KNOX as I don't have that much time anymore (work, wife, children).
I see that there is a new Omega rom based on the latest firmware. Perhaps I should check that one out.
Now I'm going to do some more research regarding this.
Thanks again for your time.
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Thank you...
So you saying that the costum roms don't have the KNOX bootloader?
Honestly, I didn't really follow up on everything regarding KNOX as I don't have that much time anymore (work, wife, children).
I see that there is a new Omega rom based on the latest firmware. Perhaps I should check that one out.
Now I'm going to do some more research regarding this.
Thanks again for your time.
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Only the official firmwares have the bootloader. Just stay away from official firmwares if you want to root/flash different roms and you will be fine.
But it can never hurt to read more about Knox
Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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Do not do this. This will brick your phone. If I am not mistaken, there is a method to unlock mk2 in the general section.
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zee24 said:
Hey guys so i have heard that if i install the old firmware for my s4 from sammobile using Odin one from early 2013 that it will give me access to service menu so that i can unlock my phone. So my question is that is it 100% safe to Odin flash the older 4.2.2 rom when i am on 4.3? Can i flash it unlock my phone then upgrade my phone to a custom rom again? Thank you
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You should ask this in the t mobile s4 forum. I believe your bootloader is unlocked and you can flash an older firmware version. But check there first. This is the att s4 forum. It can't be done on the at&t s4.
Is the service menu missing on the stock T-mo 4.3 ?
Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?
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Nooo guys i have an unlocked bootloader i have the s4 that is very similar to the tmobile and it's the same as the Canadian versions. And yes the Canadian version which is 1337m and mine which is m919v don't have access to service menus but i have flashed a lot of custom roms simply by philz recovery so doesn't that mean i have an unlocked bootloader?
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If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040
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If you're on 4.3 I believe you also have Knox, in which case I don't think you'll be able to go back to 4.2.2. Read through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40903040
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I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?
zee24 said:
I'm actually running a custom rom i shouldve mentioned im on phoenix rom. So i don't have knox at the moment. Does that matter?
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Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.
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Did you ever take the ota to 4.3? Do you know what firmware your device is on? A 4.3 custom Rom wouldn't have knox but if you took the official update to 4.3 you would have Knox.
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Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Idk, I'm not that familiar with your device. From the little bit of reading I've done I would say no, you can't flash an older firmware. But again, I'd post this question in the t mobile forum. They'd be more familiar with your device.
zee24 said:
Hmm i think then yes i might have knox. I think at one point i might have been on stock 4.3 is there any way that i can check to see if i have knox? And if i have knox i cant flash an older stock firmware for my s4?
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Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would.
You would have know by checking in settings under SE
hednik said:
Did you ever update you device with kies or ever take an over the air update ? It's fine if you were on a stock based 4.3 rom as long as you never took an official update. If so then you can't go back. Just flashing a stock 4.3 rom won't change that status but the 4.3 bootloader would. You would have know by checking in settings under SE
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I remember i soft bricked my phone one time and had to flash my firmware but the 4.3 latest one from sammobile and after i did that i got knox but i believe i already tripped the knox counter because in download mode it says 0x1 so i guess i cant?
Hi all,
I'm looking forward to the new kitkat version of Touchwiz, but I'm worried about knox warranty. If I were to flash a 4.4 ROM (and more specifically, a Touchwiz one), will this set off the flag? I currently do not have the Knox warranty as I got the s4 when it first came out but I'm worried if i download later versions of Touchwiz I'll somehow get the Knox security along with it and set it off.
If anyone could please clarify this it would be greatly appreciated
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Hi all,
I'm looking forward to the new kitkat version of Touchwiz, but I'm worried about knox warranty. If I were to flash a 4.4 ROM (and more specifically, a Touchwiz one), will this set off the flag? I currently do not have the Knox warranty as I got the s4 when it first came out but I'm worried if i download later versions of Touchwiz I'll somehow get the Knox security along with it and set it off.
If anyone could please clarify this it would be greatly appreciated
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Same question...
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If u upgrade ur android with 4.3 then with the update u ll get knox bootloader with it. If u r on 4.2.2 then u may install ur preferred custom rom (if it does not have knox included).
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Williamharv said:
Hi all,
I'm looking forward to the new kitkat version of Touchwiz, but I'm worried about knox warranty. If I were to flash a 4.4 ROM (and more specifically, a Touchwiz one), will this set off the flag? I currently do not have the Knox warranty as I got the s4 when it first came out but I'm worried if i download later versions of Touchwiz I'll somehow get the Knox security along with it and set it off.
If anyone could please clarify this it would be greatly appreciated
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search xda,there are already many threads asking same thing...
though,I don't think that it will trip Knox,since u will be flashing a Samsung rom .... it trips when u flash older version or custom rom..
but its better to be safe than sorry...!!!
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Same question...
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Mandark52 said:
If u upgrade ur android with 4.3 then with the update u ll get knox bootloader with it. If u r on 4.2.2 then u may install ur preferred custom rom (if it does not have knox included).
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Ok so I got my galaxy when it was on 4.2.2, but I currently have Cynagenmod 11 (meaning I have 4.4.2 atm). I checked download mode and I have no knox bootloader, so does this mean im safe to download any 4.3/4.4 custom ROM as long as it doesnt state that it will create a knox bootloader?
For example, what if I were to download omega (the kitkat version) or a kitkat version of samsung's Touchwiz?
Williamharv said:
For example, what if I were to download omega (the kitkat version) or a kitkat version of samsung's Touchwiz?
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read his thread, it has all the info you need, or search the thread - your question has been aksed a million times already
(Hint, search is your friend, you could already have the answer if you looked for it yourself instead of waiting for someone on a forum to see your post and reply)
Hey guys.
Quick one, is the XSA rom you can get from samobile the stock Samsung rom? As in not telstra or Optus? Like you would get if you bought unbranded from a Samsung store?
Thanks guys. Only reason I ask is that I'm trying to figure out if my Optus firmware is crappy, I'd guess it is but just need to see before I can't take it back.
Thanks again.
Search all the different AU(?) Firmwares and see, its possible XSA is the unbranded one - although saying that, I think sammobile says if its unbranded.
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XSA is the unbranded one...
Thanks guys.
So I shouldn't have any trouble with that yeah?
It's the same build number as I have now so that should flash fine, without triggering Knox?
Thanks.
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Yup no Knox worries
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Thanks again guys. Might do that in the next day and see if it's this crappy rom.
Help me understand this note 3 Knox business. So, I've had nexuses and other Samsung's and I've never had the thing where I couldn't use a previous version of Android if I updated.
So is it just the bootloader we're talking about? If I updated to 4.4.2, I couldn't use anything older than that? Even just the rom?
So how would I even get a 4.4.2 rom if say the roms didn't include the bootloader? And if I did get a bootloader, is the right one? Haha.
Sorry to ask so much, just things seem different with this particular phone and the current versions of Android.
Maybe it's just the bootloader and you can't go and use an older version of Android if that's been flashed.
Couldn't you flash a stock 4.3 official rom if you wanted to go back?
Thanks in advance.
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Lambetts said:
Thanks again guys. Might do that in the next day and see if it's this crappy rom.
Help me understand this note 3 Knox business. So, I've had nexuses and other Samsung's and I've never had the thing where I couldn't use a previous version of Android if I updated.
So is it just the bootloader we're talking about? If I updated to 4.4.2, I couldn't use anything older than that? Even just the rom?
So how would I even get a 4.4.2 rom if say the roms didn't include the bootloader? And if I did get a bootloader, is the right one? Haha.
Sorry to ask so much, just things seem different with this particular phone and the current versions of Android.
Maybe it's just the bootloader and you can't go and use an older version of Android if that's been flashed.
Couldn't you flash a stock 4.3 official rom if you wanted to go back?
Thanks in advance.
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If you flash a stock KK rom it updates the bootloader. If you get the broken up KK polish rom and don't update the bootloader then KK doesn't load.
Once you update to the latest KK bootloader you CAN'T go back to JB... You will trip Knox warranty void if you try...
Argh I see.
So basically it's the bootloader. But if you root, flash custom recovery and or rom, that's going to trip knox anyway isn't it? So if you did use a earlier version of Android, you still can, it will just trip knox?
Tripping knox doesn't make your phone unusable does it? I'm sure there will be some sort of triangle away or similar that will get rid of it. What if you flash a clean bootloader? Would that clear knox? I wonder where the knox counter info is stored and if it's accessible...
Geez, making myself sound like a noob here haha. I swear I'm an experienced flasher haha.
Just making sure I understand this before I do anything. Seems a little different than normal. Everyone should understand this stuff before they do anything. Haha.
Thanks again.
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I've been wanting to have Android 4.4.2 on my Note 3 N9005 for a long time and my Carrier still hasn't released official 4.4 update. I've had enough waiting and want to root and install a custom 4.4 rom on my Note 3 N9005(international). Would anyone be so kind to give me detailed information on how to do so, or at least point me in the right direction. I've also got a few questions.
1. Is there any way to leave Knox not tripped?
2. Is there any way to downgrade from a custom ROM to my official 4.3 rom if I'll need my garrancy?
Thanks in advance! :fingers-crossed:
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I've been wanting to have Android 4.4.2 on my Note 3 N9005 for a long time and my Carrier still hasn't released official 4.4 update. I've had enough waiting and want to root and install a custom 4.4 rom on my Note 3 N9005(international). Would anyone be so kind to give me detailed information on how to do so, or at least point me in the right direction. I've also got a few questions.
1. Is there any way to leave Knox not tripped?
2. Is there any way to downgrade from a custom ROM to my official 4.3 rom if I'll need my garrancy?
Thanks in advance! :fingers-crossed:
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On N9005 there is no way back. Knowing that you must really analyze the benefits vs losses/risks. Which for instance for me at this point do not justify the move (but I am rooted and I already have 99% of what 4.4 brings).
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On N9005 there is no way back. Knowing that you must really analyze the benefits vs losses/risks. Which for instance for me at this point do not justify the move (but I am rooted and I already have 99% of what 4.4 brings).
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Are you suggesting that I should stay on my stock ROM and wait for 4.4? I've read things about 4.4 and a lot of people say it's a lot better than 4.3, faster, etc. I'm really tired of waiting, my carrier sucks.
If you just want to have 4.4.2 and stay official, pick one of any released official 4.4.2 firmwares available to flash.
Spoon feeding at it's finest...
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nlatifolia said:
If you just want to have 4.4.2 and stay official, pick one of any released official 4.4.2 firmwares available to flash.
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Alright, but do I need to be rooted or do I need to have a custom recovery before flashing via Odin? Will flashing an official ROM trigger Knox to 0x1 or will it leave it unchanged because I don't want my garrancy void?
@markslo112 you don't need nothing but your phone, usb cable and pc to flash with odin. Flashing an offcial rom will NOT trigger Knox!
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ione2380 said:
@markslo112 you don't need nothing but your phone, usb cable and pc to flash with odin. Flashing an offcial rom will NOT trigger Knox!
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Ok that's good to hear. If I flash 4.4, will I still be able to install a custom recovery and then a custom Rom? I'm just asking because if I get tired of stock 4.4. Also, is it safe to flash via Odin? I don't want my phone to get bootloops or anything.
Thanks!
I think before you do anything to your phone for the good of yourself you better stop posting and do more reading instead in this forum. You will confuse yourself by asking more and seems not knowing what you are asking about.
markslo112 said:
Ok that's good to hear. If I flash 4.4, will I still be able to install a custom recovery and then a custom Rom? I'm just asking because if I get tired of stock 4.4. Also, is it safe to flash via Odin? I don't want my phone to get bootloops or anything.
Thanks!
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You will be able to install custom recovery/rom but it will trip your knox.
It is safe but do some reading maybe even watching a video or two on youtube to familiarize yourself on which files goes to which slot. Also, you won't be able to roll back to 4.3 at this time once you go to 4.4.
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I think before you do anything to your phone for the good of yourself you better stop posting and do more reading instead in this forum. You will confuse yourself by asking more and seems not knowing what you are asking about.
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Well I've actually rooted and installed custom ROMS on almost every other phone I had, but the Note 3 is far the best mobile I've had and I really don't want to screw anything up. I do have experience with Odin, but I've never had any experience with Knox as no other phones had it. But I will go ahead and read stuff up.
Thanks to everyone that helped though! :fingers-crossed:
UPDATE:
Alright, so I tried flashing an official 4.4.2 firmware for my region onto my Note 3 with 4.3 via Odin 3.09. It started perfectly, but then gave me an error which said "invalid ext4 image". After a long search I did manage to find a PIT file for my phone. I then tried flashing again, but this time with the PIT file that I downloaded. It flashed fine, had to factory reset and wipe cache also. :victory: