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I remember hearing that the video camera on the Universal might not be useable for Internet conferencing. Does anyone know if this is correct? Sorry if this is a silly question, but what exactly CAN it be used for?
the whole bell and whistles of 3G or UTMS if you want
was that you could do video phoning
so that would be the purpos of the cam i guess
it's also mentioned in the o2 sales pdf which i thing
was removed because o2 (or was it tmobile) got upset
because their internal doc's ended up here
er.. Universal does NOT have 3G. sorry.
macsoft said:
er.. Universal does NOT have 3G. sorry.
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ohhh yes, it got 3G (UMTS)
It's the first PPC announced with 3G ever :wink:
thats what makes it tasty
no more SLOOOOOOOOW gprs
data speeds
So what about internet conferencing? Will that be possible? I assume that would require some MSN-like software, or would there be a way to send video via the internet?
if the applications were made and the camera supported it's really very early to say anything for surden
all we have right now is
you hearing that it will not work
try asking you where you heard it
no no no
it will be like this
you sit on yer chair with wifi on
and you voice and video chat through msn messenger on yer xda 4
huh?
and why would it be over wifi and not utms ?
i mean apart from the fact that wifi would be cheaper
but not as available as utms
Rudegar said:
if the applications were made and the camera supported it's really very early to say anything for surden
all we have right now is
you hearing that it will not work
try asking you where you heard it
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I hope no one asks me where I heard it... too much information, brain too small :shock:
Dale Coffing says some things about the video conferencing at http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_impressio.html
Why does he say that he needed a SIM card to check the video conferencing?
If it can't do both it's kind of like saying that you can only store images on device, not on SD.
I could never in my wildest dreams belive that they would implement this and then not make it avalible for the Wifi connection, or any current connection at all other than 3G.
Yes it is 3G, and yes it supports video calls.
Waiting on my 3G SIM card at the moment to test......
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Waiting on my 3G SIM card at the moment to test......
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So you have one there right now?
Whats the FCC ID printed on the label of your device??
I guess what I am trying to ask is whether I can use the Universal to send video via the Internet to a computer using a program like MSN Messenger or Netmeeting? Is there software included that does this, or is it just a matter of waiting and hoping that someone will make a program that does it?
Alternatively, would it be possible to post the video to a website?
I understand that it may be too early to tell, maybe TechGuru can let us know?
Thanks.
May I ask why you want the FCC ID?
I can't really say more than I have already guys, under very tight NDA with O2.
Just keep your eyes peeled on Tekguru!
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May I ask why you want the FCC ID?
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To check the FCC website for any info.
Can't find anything there on the Universal, so either it's more confidential than other HTC devices,
It's under a different FCC granteecode which could be that HTC is spreading risk/sales into different sub companies or they have used a sub contracter to build the Universal,
The data wont be avaliable before launch date (which it is for other devices??)
Video Conferencign
It wont have video conferencing. It will be able to do Video Messaging. There is a big difference. Video messageing you record a 10-15sec clip and send it. The person recieves this video clip, downloads it, and then plays it. Its not actually LIVE streaming though.
thats mms
the other 3g utms phones i've seen offer video phoning
not that good quality and the sound is not 100% synced but
they do offer it
dont see why the universal should not also offer this
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Tekguru said:
May I ask why you want the FCC ID?
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To check the FCC website for any info.
Can't find anything there on the Universal, so either it's more confidential than other HTC devices,
It's under a different FCC granteecode which could be that HTC is spreading risk/sales into different sub companies or they have used a sub contracter to build the Universal,
The data wont be avaliable before launch date (which it is for other devices??)
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The Universal is not on the FCC site under HTC or any other company. Easy to do as the FCC now allows companies to delay publishing of *any* details provided the device is not on sale before the info appears.
Re: Video Conferencign
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It wont have video conferencing. It will be able to do Video Messaging. There is a big difference. Video messageing you record a 10-15sec clip and send it. The person recieves this video clip, downloads it, and then plays it. Its not actually LIVE streaming though.
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It will do video calls though.
While I don't believe the next gen Mobile Messenger will support video conferencing directly, you can use Microsoft Portrait - http://research.microsoft.com/~jiangli/portrait/ - which does work with Messenger (and the buddy lists). It's also free.
is there any accessory to allow video out to televisions and other monitors?
the hima had a backpack attachment, and i was wondering if the universal has something similar....
San
anybody there??!!!
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AFAIK there is no backpack available and no plan for doing it. seems even odd to add a backpack to the beast.
for the tv-out it might be some SDIO card that will do it but i don't know for sure.
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30825&highlight=
I will post here as soon as I here more.
Jayman
Jayman said:
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30825&highlight=
I will post here as soon as I here more.
Jayman
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thanks Jay! my bad....didnt look around before posting!
I used to use my xda 2 with the backpack many times to make presentations, and i guess i'd badly need to find a way out of this
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If this never appears (it wouldn't be the first time I have heard some O2 BS - however the guy who sent this onto me has been very helpful) then there are still third party options. search pitch duo on google there are some very interesting reviews. Also if you really need video out and can live with a two unit solution ie PPC and phone have a look at the review on pocketpcthoughts of the Axims native output - very impressive.
Jayman
There is a utility in Windows XP called "Dialer". You can configure it to use the modem connected to the computer to make voice calls. It is located in the folder Program Files\Windows NT:
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...ddocs/en-us/dialer_whatis_intro.mspx?mfr=true
In the past, I have used dedicated modems over land-lines to place voice calls using Dialer. In theory, wouldn't it be possible to configure this same utility to place a voice call with the wireless modem built-in to the Shift?
Does Vista include this utility? If not, couldn't it be easily copied from an XP machine to the Shift?
Why
the shift will inclue voice dialling out of the box so not much point to your suggestion but thanks all the same
according to some reviews there are NO Voice capabilities in Shift!!!
Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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thank you. yes voice and gps.
Hmmm. So when the official European HTC website, Shift section lists both the full Users Guide and Quick Start Guide && When neither mention the GPS or voice capabilitiels.
WELL
If they are included then HTC should re-write it's manuals.
i agree
and im sure they will update it now they have the full licence from the FCC to distribute the dev ice with voice capability
A little review to look at!
http://www.doctorsgadgets.com/htc-shift-review.html
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http://www.doctorsgadgets.com/htc-shift-review.html
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Ha. Doesn't he say "No voice, get it out of your head!" ?
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Ha. Doesn't he say "No voice, get it out of your head!" ?
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Oh yes he does but... look at the date the video review was done its about six months old it almost predates mmobile fones (lol) and the review is based on a very very early rom since this time gps has being confirmed which is not mentioned as it wasnt known back then and ohhh look htc have put the release dte back to january so who knows what there gunna change??????
yes it has gps 100%,but under vista with what software?
there is not clear until now.
for now use tomtom google maps or whtever in WM6 and once decent gps software is avaiable for vista get that instead!!
FCC approval is only for US market.
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Some news reports are wrong.. and no one has seen a production device yet Htc only just got the FCC approval for voice on a device that is the exact same form factor of the shift and the people that are making the device have leaked out to people on these forums (a few weeks ago) that it does deffinatly have voice and gps which has now being confimed (the gps was confirmed about two days ago by a MS worker)
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Yes but if ur going too release something this good to the world is it not better to have approval in what will be one of the biggest buyers for the product.. it makes sense to me and 100% of computer devices i have have the fcc approval but i live in uk.
The user manual is available to download from HTC now and there's NO mention of voice capabilities whatsoever!
Sucks ass big time - this was my only hope of having a decent PC and phone - looks like the flybook is a better (but much more expensive) option as the new ones have faster HSDPA and voice!
If you read on Mobileplanet, they spec gps for the US Version but not for the european version. Is this true there fore we should wait for the US one?
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The user manual is available to download from HTC now and there's NO mention of voice capabilities whatsoever!
Sucks ass big time - this was my only hope of having a decent PC and phone - looks like the flybook is a better (but much more expensive) option as the new ones have faster HSDPA and voice!
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would u idiots for lack of a more meaningful word stop looking at the user manuals and what is online and look at a better source who says the shift has phone capabilities. i replicated snapvue on my athena. one of the options when u go to settings is phone where u choose ur profile, ring type, bands, etc.. like in settings/phone of say the athena. IT HAS A PHONE IN IT!! bangelboy even showed the dialer on his.
He's right, check out this video.
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He's right, check out this video.
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i know im right. i said this from the beginning before bangelboy showed this. my sources are good!
Maybe
Pawel062 said:
i know im right. i said this from the beginning before bangelboy showed this. my sources are good!
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Even bangelboy, if you check his website, was not sure that cell phone services would be part of the final production model, although he was hopeful that it would be. Yet, all HTC indications in all their documentation is that cell phone services are not included.
Yes, the hardware is there, but there are some problems, perhaps legal patent rights, that are stalling what we want the HTC Shift to perform. It might still be a case for XDA developers to work out.
I would be happy to have the assurance of your sources, as the evidence at this point seems not to be favorable. It is good for you that you have faith in your sources, but without ascertaining their veracity, out of the box, it is hard to believe the Shift is configured for cell phone service. Would you care to share your sources with us?
Hi,
Here an email I receive from my contact
Associate Director/Business Division Head Acer Computer Co. said:
Acer will offer Android Honey Comb 3.1 update soon and we will update it in our Acer Thailand Facebook, so you can find more related Acer's product information in acer.co.th and any question you can request to our Facebook too
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Facebook Acer TH
Of course no "date" but it's to prevent also false promises, but at least now it's official (oh soon mean this month hopefully hahahaha)
I hope that will makes some people happy.
Have a nice day
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Hi,
Here an email I receive from my contact
Facebook Acer TH
Of course no "date" but it's to prevent also false promises, but at least now it's official (oh soon mean this month hopefully hahahaha)
I hope that will makes some people happy.
Have a nice day
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Even before the Iconia went on sale acer's website said an update will come in june. Good news nevertheless.
Can you ask them about an unlocked bootloader on their facebook?
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Even before the Iconia went on sale acer's website said an update will come in june. Good news nevertheless.
Can you ask them about an unlocked bootloader on their facebook?
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Here the reply I sent to him
Sanaell said:
The browsing is terrible and not optimized yet for HTML 5 and CSS 3, google android has been reported about some not supported feature that should be basis, but well honeycomb is young let's hope that we will not wait too long about this, I tried all browsers... dolphin, opera, firefox... none are satisfying.... the stock browser is the best but should be and have to be better.
The GPS is really a pain, take minutes or more to get locked by satelites and that is a question of system settings because someone in USA figured that changing an URL inside the gps.conf let him got satelite lock under 20 seconds... please acer try to fix this, I have an acer liquid metal now and the GPS got lock in few seconds...
Bootloader have to be unlocked for the community, people buy products not only because of the quality but also because of the possibility they can get from it, and in the tablet market, I can insure that the company who will unlock and let freewill to customer to develop,modify, and enhance the tablet will make a big profit from the selling.
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in china,we have no news about the update of 3.1....
i have three exams in june,so i dont have much time to play my tablet.
**** THIS IS FOR THE T-MOBILE (D6616) MODEL *** Not sure if other models are eligable.
The free movies promotion is now live! Log into the Xperia Lounge app, and you will see the link at the top! Looks like Sony gave us additional bonus movies besides the three that were already announced!
Previously announced:
1 . Ghostbusters
2. The Amazing Spiderman 2
3. Captain Phillips
Bonus (unannounced videos):
4. 22 Jump Street
5. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2
6. Money Ball
Appearantly, only way to watch and/or download is via a wifi connection. There should be an option for using mobile data. Hope they can fix this.
Damn, before they only gave 1 movie for free.
Thanks!
No free movies in Germany
Here in Germany there´s no offer for free movies. Early this morning I had a look at Xperia Lounge app an there´s no offer.
OP should specify this is only for the D6616 I believe.
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OP should specify this is only for the D6616 I believe.
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You're right, my bad...I updated my original post.
itsjustJOH said:
Damn, before they only gave 1 movie for free.
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Z2 got like 5 movies as well
Ok thanks, in Germany we get the D6603, so it´s no technical problem from Sony First I thought Iam to dumb to find some free movies.
Damn, whats the time limit I'm sending mine back to TMO for a replacement today, cross shipping, but they are once again on backorder.
I can confirm Verizon has those too, except for 22 jump street.
Verizon
abhinav.tella said:
Damn, whats the time limit I'm sending mine back to TMO for a replacement today, cross shipping, but they are once again on backorder.
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Not seeing the link.. I signed in using google account to lounge and no links or anything... advice?
im a little lost... i got my code for the movies and redeemed it, but i'm not finding the movies. they arent under my videos, do i have to download them from somewhere? when i view the movie in the store its telling me i own it, just cant figure out how to watch them
can confirm.
I've got three movies for free.
3? I got all six. Try again, you should be able to get all six.
I owned the z3 since day one and wasn't even able to get the link to download and movies. How did you redeem code? I just logged in with my psn . and nothing but this star ways thing on top. No link to get anything free.
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I owned the z3 since day one and wasn't even able to get the link to download and movies. How did you redeem code? I just logged in with my psn . and nothing but this star ways thing on top. No link to get anything free.
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alright, this is how I did it.
Open your app drawer and search for the app called Xperia™ Lounge (it's blue in color).
Once you've opened the app, You'll see a list of cards/tiles/pages (whatever you want to call them).
You'll see a card which has the film posters on it and says "Redeem..." click on it,
Once on that page, scroll down and click Next to bring up the terms and condition popup, read it (or don't), and accept it.
voila! you will have your code.
note down the code on a paper (or open chrome), head to SOE accounts page, and type it down (or copy paste it) and click redeem.
You've got your movies now!
I haven't received a code and are you storing them to the phone?
These just showed up in my Xperia Lounge app, I'm using an Unlocked Z3 with a Three Sim
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alright, this is how I did it.
Open your app drawer and search for the app called Xperia™ Lounge (it's blue in color).
Once you've opened the app, You'll see a list of cards/tiles/pages (whatever you want to call them).
You'll see a card which has the film posters on it and says "Redeem..." click on it,
Once on that page, scroll down and click Next to bring up the terms and condition popup, read it (or don't), and accept it.
voila! you will have your code.
note down the code on a paper (or open chrome), head to SOE accounts page, and type it down (or copy paste it) and click redeem.
You've got your movies now!
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as that would be great but.. mine doesn't have that.. its got your screen. then the hobbit and then usher's ugly face. where he flyies to miami ..
This.
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