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I have a question, I just got m nexus 4 and unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have cwm recovery. I came from a samsung galaxy s2 and ran cm10 on that phone and can understand why to run aosp on a samsung touchwiz based rom, BUT why go cm10 on a stock google rom? Besides adding a reboot menu, what does cm10 add extra? How much stability can it actually add to the phone?? Any input?
Also just wondering if franco kernel will work with stock rom?
I've always been a fan of going straight to CM10 or other custom ROMs with my previous phones to improve performance. With the N4 I feel that the stock performance is more than adequate and worth hanging onto. However, in my case, I really like the quick toggle mod that someone made which allows the quick settings tabs to become quick toggles instead of directing you to the settings menu. For this reason I decided to go with the MoDaCo custom ROM Because it is essentially the stock ROM + advanced power menu + quick toggle mod. It's perfect for me.
This go-around I'm going to give CM10.1 a couple months to turn into a 100% solid/bug free ROM before I consider switching to it. Right now people are reporting random weird issues with it such as invalid timestamps on text messages & issues with Wifi.
desiromeo719 said:
I have a question, I just got m nexus 4 and unlocked the bootloader, rooted and have cwm recovery. I came from a samsung galaxy s2 and ran cm10 on that phone and can understand why to run aosp on a samsung touchwiz based rom, BUT why go cm10 on a stock google rom? Besides adding a reboot menu, what does cm10 add extra? How much stability can it actually add to the phone?? Any input?
Also just wondering if franco kernel will work with stock rom?
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Adds much more than a reboot menu. Many of the CM10 features still haven't been merged yet either.
My main reasons: I prefer the CM toggles to any app substitute, Profiles, Quiet Hours, the notification light implementation, I'm a bit of a Theme Chooser whore.
There are substitutes for all of those things, but I prefer to have it as part of the system.
There are still quite a few things that are missing however, but they're working hard on making them ready for 4.2.1
^^ Quiet hours, good call. I forgot about that. It is a feature I definitely miss but can do without for now.
Well OP, you kinda answered your own question. It's the features of CM that makes people want to use it. It adds more functionality. Like what someone said in the thread, it's still being merged so it's a work in progress.
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Honestly, sometimes I question when the Android team will just start rolling in certain CM features by default.
CyanogenMod has features built in that is not offered on stock. On stock,you would probably have to download several apps just to get the same functionality that CM has.
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^^ Quiet hours, good call. I forgot about that. It is a feature I definitely miss but can do without for now.
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FWIW I haven't had any notable issues on 10.1 with the exception of the back button not exiting the browser a couple of nightlies ago. Has been very stable thus far.
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FWIW I haven't had any notable issues on 10.1 with the exception of the back button not exiting the browser a couple of nightlies ago. Has been very stable thus far.
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Maybe if I get bored over the holidays in the mountains I'll give CM10.1 a go and see how it fares.
The one feature I'm missing is the ability to change brightness by sliding the notification bar from left to right.
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zephiK said:
The one feature I'm missing is the ability to change brightness by sliding the notification bar from left to right.
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I miss the custom brightness levels as well, but the N4 screen doesn't seem to be as much of a hog as the GN thankfully.
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I miss the custom brightness levels as well, but the N4 screen doesn't seem to be as much of a hog as the GN thankfully.
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Agreed. Really liking the nexus 4s screen. It's going to take some time getting used to the blacks, the blacks on gn definitely looked better as my beautiful widgets widget looks weird now. But for brighter colors and for viewing videos, the color reproduction for the ips is pretty astonishing.
Hopefully PGM makes it way to N4, that kernel module was so fun to use on my GN.
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Well guys I ordered this from Walmart on the 18th and it got to my house today around lunch. It does have some pretty bad light bleed at the 2 bottom corners but if I turn up the brightness it is less noticeable. But I haven't watched a dark HD quality movie like the new batman in a dark room either. Been researching this device for the last few months and was skeptical to get it after hearing so many problems with the screens and the lagging situation in the stock browser and games. I have been rooting and romming phones since my att captivate i897 with the help of everyone here at xda of course and now I want to make my nexus 10 a better experience than what I'm getting out of the box. I know, I know there are tons and tons of threads on here with guys in my exact situation and I need to read,read, and read some more. Plus Google search bar is my friend when it comes to knowledge. I know all this already. What I wanted to know from you nexus 10 owners is this..........
1. Is mskips toolbox the way to go with this device ( I already downloaded it)
2. Are you guys having better results running a custom ROM with clock able kernel to help alleviate the lag issues?
3. Also wanted to know which browser you guys like the best quickness wise and least laggy?
4. I have not installed the update yet either. It says it's ready to install. Should I or are you guys having more issues with 4.2.1?
5. Can I do what I normally do once rooted and take off all the Google bloatware that I don't need with tibu?
Guys I'm really not trying to beat a dead horse and yes I will continue to read everything I possibly can on my situations because (knowledge is power)!
Thanks in advance guys for any tips or advice!
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BTW guys I just wanted to say that I'm sitting in my pitch black garage typing this with the brightness set pretty low and my eyes really don't notice the light bleed that much or maybe it just doesn't bother me that much. I also wanted to say that I'm definitely a nerd when it comes to having the latest devices with the best hardware and I'm happy with my nexus 10. This is my first tablet and I know that the apps designed for this will come eventually. I know the games will too. As of now I think I made a good choice. If the light bleed bothers me enough or I can't fix my lagging situation or waiting for a while sometimes for a page too open like on here the xda app, I can always return it for a refund. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Sorry for the long rants.
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Best advice....don't do anything (root/ROM) until you've spent a week or more with the tablet stock. Go ahead and take the update, you may want to factory reset after it though to make sure you are sitting on a clean, stock, 4.2.1 system. I've had zero issues with the update...or my tablet.
Play with the tablet, get a feel for the hardware/OS stock and see if you need to (or want to) install a ROM later. Also this gives you a chance to have a base feel for comparison if you do install a ROM later
Make the decision based on your experiences with the tablet and not on what you read here.
So far I've found no uses to Rom It. My S3 is running AOKP only because WiFi Tether and a couple other features...like cpu throttle/battery life. I think I'm going to keep my N10 pretty much stock....but I do have Nova running...pretty smooth and update went smooth as well. It does get frozen from time to time, but a simple reboot fixes it. I
When Freezing occurs or major lag - This is a new device and new O.S. updates will come.
Thank you very much guys for your input. I did use mskips toolbox to unlock,root, and add recovery. Main reason is all the lag I'm experiencing with chrome browser and in games. Want to install AOKP browser. Very smooth compared to chrome. Also wanted to be able to maybe add an overclockable kernel to speed things up a little in gaming. Need for speed most wanted and defense zone 2 HD has horrible Lag. That upsets me too because this thing has awesome internals and I know it can shine at anything I throw at it with just a little help from guys on here at xda. I'll just keep my thoughts to myself because there are enough threads here to complain about what Google and Samsung could have did to make this tablet shine.
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Ocean browser is the way to go. By far the smoothest browser I've seen on android. I used PaulObrien's super boot I think its called to root without unlocking. I did that and then took the official OTA updates. Worked a charm.
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1. Is mskips toolbox the way to go with this device ( I already downloaded it)
2. Are you guys having better results running a custom ROM with clock able kernel to help alleviate the lag issues?
3. Also wanted to know which browser you guys like the best quickness wise and least laggy?
4. I have not installed the update yet either. It says it's ready to install. Should I or are you guys having more issues with 4.2.1?
5. Can I do what I normally do once rooted and take off all the Google bloatware that I don't need with tibu?
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1. Not a big fan of any toolkits; so I don't know (I do stuff manually )
2. Might be placebo, but I've had a better experience in CM 10.1 nightlies than stock; but then again, CM has a more updated Kernel and source (atm)
3. AOSP Chrome isn't too bad either actually (I haven't experienced any of the horror most people seemed to report)
4. Update
5. You can freeze unneeded apps (or just remove them), install adblockers, and get access to certain data files
Thanks espionage724
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Made the jump from the Nexus S to Nexus 4 - great upgrade for me. The phone is beautiful, from its screen to design, and to performance. Got 4.3 on it right away and factory reset the phone.
So, I had a couple of questions..
1. In the recent apps drawer, shouldn't there be a 'clear all' button or icon? I have to manually swipe each one out.
2. Is there a way to change the toggle settings in the notification drawer? Also what about the lock screen shortcuts? (on stock)
3. Is daydreaming bad for the screen (if it stays on for 8 hours a night)?
4. Very very minor, but I believe I noticed 1 super tiny dead pixel. I'm quite sure it is. But it's not noticeable, but I know it's there. Should I leave it alone or send it back, or whatever?
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Made the jump from the Nexus S to Nexus 4 - great upgrade for me. The phone is beautiful, from its screen to design, and to performance. Got 4.3 on it right away and factory reset the phone.
So, I had a couple of questions..
1. In the recent apps drawer, shouldn't there be a 'clear all' button or icon? I have to manually swipe each one out.
2. Is there a way to change the toggle settings in the notification drawer? Also what about the lock screen shortcuts? (on stock)
3. Is daydreaming bad for the screen (if it stays on for 8 hours a night)?
4. Very very minor, but I believe I noticed 1 super tiny dead pixel. I'm quite sure it is. But it's not noticeable, but I know it's there. Should I leave it alone or send it back, or whatever?
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1. No there is no such button, but you can flash the JSS15J build in android section it has that button.
2.no way to change the toggle settings, for that you can use power toggles it has everything.
3.yes it for battery life.
4. depends on you. If you are fine with it move on. All the best.
(1 & 2) I think you're too used to aosp and cm builds, stock has minimal customization.
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welcome aboard
got same upgrade from NS to N4
but just a question, why purchase a pure google and not root and flash roms?
mine stays official for about 20 mins after first boot, as someone says, too accomplished with coocked one to stay on stock
Haha. Not just yet. I want to experience stock first. It's going smooth and the 4.3 update seems to do quite a bit of what the 'Franco' kernel did. It has good battery life from what I've experienced only so far (got 2.5 hours of screen time from 40% to 1%, so should get 4 hrs - but only wifi).
Perhaps down the road.
Run a dead pixel fox app ?
I did that and it fixed mine!
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myturbo1 said:
Run a dead pixel fox app ?
I did that and it fixed mine!
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I don't get it. I downloaded a couple of apps and one flashed the screen to fix it. Did not work. How is it supposed to even fix it?
Apps can't fix dead pixels, they sometimes can fix stuck ones however.
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I don't get it. I downloaded a couple of apps and one flashed the screen to fix it. Did not work. How is it supposed to even fix it?
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When flashing its trying to make the pixel activate and I would return the phone the first nexus 4I got had a bad pixel and after a week or two I got another so I would return but if it doesn't bother you just keep it and just hope it doesn't get fixed
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I got my second one today... I lost the first about 5 months ago after only having it one week... Also have an Atrix HD but missed this phone so much...
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I am running the latest nightly of PAC ROM and I know this is a stupid question (I already feel pretty dumb right now cause of this lol) but I swear on my life that there was a gesture option for tapping twice when at launcher screen and also a quick settings tile for LTE or at least some type of LTE toggle. I swear it was in quick setting tiles options. My brain seems to be not working right today cause I was using the gesture one last night. And I swear I saw the LTE one earlier today but I hadn't set up LTE yet so I didn't use it. But now that I got my 4G tweak working, I would like to use it but can't find it anywhere.
Can someone please tell me where these options are cause its driving me crazy. Or at least tell me if I am going F***ing crazy cause they don't exist
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I recently got a Nexus 6p. I was very happy with CyanogenMod 11 on my Nexus 5, and the various features that it offered, aside from the occasional bug here or there. Can anyone please tell me which custom ROM for a Nexus 6p (currently running the latest stock ROM 6.0.1) would be most like the CM 11 ROM on the Nexus 5, but for the Nexus 6p, with the added features of the most current stock marshmallow ROM build? I was considering Resurrection Remix. But from the installation instructions I found, it seems like I need to be on lollipop in order to install it?
Thank you for any information or advice anyone can offer!
If you have had a Nexus 5 and you stayed under kitkat (CM11) until now then I recommend you to keep the stock software.
I would just go straight to N Preview 3. Works like a charm for me.
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anmar21 said:
If you have had a Nexus 5 and you stayed under kitkat (CM11) until now then I recommend you to keep the stock software.
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Um... thanks? Not sure why you would suggest that (if it's even a serious suggestion and you're not just trying to be a smart-ass).
Stock marshmallow clearly has far fewer customizations and offers way less in the way of quick management features. I stuck with CM11 because it did everything I needed, and for the most part, I didn't have to do any upgrading after that because any issues I encountered were tolerable. One of my favorite features of CM11 was the customization of the quick launch notification bar. The marshmallow notification pull down shortcuts are heavily lacking.
Also, the auto brightness on stock marshmallow is terrible. I regularly need to adjust the brightness level manually in order for the automatic brightness to make the screen either dim enough, in dark areas, or bright enough, when outside in daylight.
I also really dislike all of the black text on white background menus for everything. Would much rather have a dark theme. And not having the ability to customize quite a few other features is very frustrating after being accustomed to the numerous customizations that CM11 offered.
If anyone else has any legitimate and helpful advice or information on a good custom ROM that offers these features, customizations, or improvements, please let me know.
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Um... thanks? Not sure why you would suggest that (if it's even a serious suggestion and you're not just trying to be a smart-ass).
Stock marshmallow clearly has far fewer customizations and offers way less in the way of quick management features. I stuck with CM11 because it did everything I needed, and for the most part, I didn't have to do any upgrading after that because any issues I encountered were tolerable. One of my favorite features of CM11 was the customization of the quick launch notification bar. The marshmallow notification pull down shortcuts are heavily lacking.
Also, the auto brightness on stock marshmallow is terrible. I regularly need to adjust the brightness level manually in order for the automatic brightness to make the screen either dim enough, in dark areas, or bright enough, when outside in daylight.
I also really dislike all of the black text on white background menus for everything. Would much rather have a dark theme. And not having the ability to customize quite a few other features is very frustrating after being accustomed to the numerous customizations that CM11 offered.
If anyone else has any legitimate and helpful advice or information on a good custom ROM that offers these features, customizations, or improvements, please let me know.
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he told to stay in stock as you didnt update to cm13 on n5.... btw you may try dirty unicorn. i tried using cm on n6p but i found it buggy so moved on to dirty unicorn, stable so far.
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Um... thanks? Not sure why you would suggest that (if it's even a serious suggestion and you're not just trying to be a smart-ass).
Stock marshmallow clearly has far fewer customizations and offers way less in the way of quick management features. I stuck with CM11 because it did everything I needed, and for the most part, I didn't have to do any upgrading after that because any issues I encountered were tolerable. One of my favorite features of CM11 was the customization of the quick launch notification bar. The marshmallow notification pull down shortcuts are heavily lacking.
Also, the auto brightness on stock marshmallow is terrible. I regularly need to adjust the brightness level manually in order for the automatic brightness to make the screen either dim enough, in dark areas, or bright enough, when outside in daylight.
I also really dislike all of the black text on white background menus for everything. Would much rather have a dark theme. And not having the ability to customize quite a few other features is very frustrating after being accustomed to the numerous customizations that CM11 offered.
If anyone else has any legitimate and helpful advice or information on a good custom ROM that offers these features, customizations, or improvements, please let me know.
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I wasn't trying to play a role. I thought you didn't know how to upgrade and that's why you stayed with an outdated software for so long. IMHO running CM11 is not the wisest idea if you value security - when was the last update BTW?
If you're happy with CM then go with CM13.
This is clearly a cleverly disguised comparison thread. Which are against the rules.
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ar21;67169820]I wasn't trying to play a role. I thought you didn't know how to upgrade and that's why you stayed with an outdated software for so long. IMHO running CM11 is not the wisest idea if you value security - when was the last update BTW?
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No, I knew how to upgrade. I just had enough working properly with my phone that I stopped upgrading the OS and pretty much any app unless I saw some great value or feature to be added with an upgrade. Security updates typically don't concern me as I don't do much with my phone that security is much of an issue. I'm far more concerned with stability. And in my years of working as a sound designer and audio/music engineer, I've learned that upgrades can often be far more of a headache than they are worth. Many audio engineers still use software from a decade ago just because it works for everything they need it to do and doesn't cause any problems. Just one small example: after recently getting a Motorola 360 SmartWatch, I was forced to upgrade several Google apps on my N5, which resulted in a number of undesired behaviors and changes, new bugs, and features that actually worked a lot worse than before, such as Google's voice to text feature. I used to have no problem with it properly recognizing my speech and translating my dictation to text. But ever since that was upgraded, it has been riddled with problems, like often inserting the wrong word (something that sounds almost nothing like what I said), inserting the word "comma" or "Kama" instead of an actual ",", randomly capitalizing words in the middle of sentences, and persistently failing to do a number of other things properly. And I know that this wasn't the result of running an older OS because I still experience the same frustrating behavior with the voice to text feature on my Nexus 6p right OOTB with the latest stock marshmallow build.
Another annoying "upgrade" is the change to how editing text works. It used to be a long press on text would show all the options to select all, copy, cut, or paste across the top of the screen. But now instead get a pop-up menu that requires an additional click to show the option to select all, and then after doing so the menu changes (in this forum at least) to show select all, assist, translate, and what looks like a backspace (that I can only assume will delete everything I have selected). Yet another chapter in the book of "how to fail in releasing updates".
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This is clearly a cleverly disguised comparison thread. Which are against the rules.
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I'm not trying to make any comparisons between ROMs. Just trying to figure out which one has the features that I want for my Nexus 6p, and would be the best to install based on my current stock OS, since as far as I could from reading the installation instructions, Resurrection Remix would require me to be running a different OS in order to do the installation.
I've been running cm13 since I got my 6p. No problems at all. If you want to avoid any instabilities then stick to the CM13 snapshot builds.
I don't know if you've tries CM13 but it has many awesome features. A lot of improvements to the notification toggles as well.
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I've been running cm13 since I got my 6p. No problems at all. If you want to avoid any instabilities then stick to the CM13 snapshot builds.
I don't know if you've tries CM13 but it has many awesome features. A lot of improvements to the notification toggles as well.
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Okay cool. That's sort of what I was hoping to hear. I generally tend to stick with what I know and what works once I find something. Was just concerned about the newer version being stable. Was hoping I get some honest feedback about it without fishing for it directly.