I usualy don't play t much graphic intense games but when i do my batteyr just goes all the way down. For ex i've been playing Dungen Hunter 4 and 30 min of gameplay is more or less 20%, thats insane, all the graphics at max.
At it happens with other games also, is there a way to undervolt or have less power so it doesn't onsume much?
Thanks in advance.
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So we've all known that this overheating is caused by CPU. I tried this overclocking widget, setup maximum cpu frequency as 800MHZ and minimum 500MHZ and tried playing games again. battleheart 30 mins and didn't get heat up any more. besides the power draining problem seemed to be less noticeable.
I read the CPU is an overclocked 1ghz which would explain the high heat when playing games. I personally have mine clocked at 800mhz using SetCPU at all times and it no longer gets very hot.
will give this a go...fed up of burnt fingers lol
come back to report. just now played around 1 hour game, battleheart, with max cpu set 800MHZ, power went down from 65% to 41%, not too bad. guess I can play games at least 4 hours. most important thing is never feel the heat again.
Hi, i want to buy nexus 4, but i'm worried about temperature. I'll install custom kernel. Could you tell me what are the temperatures when gaming on - for example- franco kernel? How long can i play before it reaches 60 celsius? Is it overheating with franco kernel or it has stable 40-50 celsius maximum when gaming?
grzeluu said:
Hi, i want to buy nexus 4, but i'm worried about temperature. I'll install custom kernel. Could you tell me what are the temperatures when gaming on - for example- franco kernel? How long can i play before it reaches 60 celsius? Is it overheating with franco kernel or it has stable 40-50 celsius maximum when gaming?
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The N4 has thermal safeguards protecting it from damage. Realy intensive gaming shouldn`t be a problem for a certain time, if you play too long thermal throtling kicks in and you may xperience some frame drops wich is normal. The heat will build up with any kernel and any phone when you play intensive games for a longer time as the cpu is not fan cooled as in a pc.
I know. But i'm asking how long can i play ;D Because it will be disappointing when this phone will get for example 60 celsius in 1 hour when playing angry birds
grzeluu said:
I know. But i'm asking how long can i play ;D Because it will be disappointing when this phone will get for example 60 celsius in 1 hour when playing angry birds
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This heat building will happen with any smartphone. You may better buy a Play station or Xbox for gaming and a feature phone for calls and texts (just kidding off course )
60C is normal. you will feel uncomfortable with a normal device?
I mean 60c on battery not processor.
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I mean 60c on battery not processor.
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dont keep it plugged in while playing intensive games and the battery will never reach 60C. heck, gaming while plugged in, ive never reached 60C.
simms22 said:
dont keep it plugged in while playing intensive games and the battery will never reach 60C. heck, gaming while plugged in, ive never reached 60C.
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But you've never reached 60c on nexus 4? Just asking because i've seen stability test on youtube and i was scared. 13 min of stability test and phone had 60c and shutdown.
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But you've never reached 60c on nexus 4? Just asking because i've seen stability test on youtube and i was scared. 13 min of stability test and phone had 60c and shutdown.
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battery temp no, cpu temp every single day when i push my device hard. when benchmarking a battery, a stress test, its supposed to get hot, thats the whole point. that isnt a real life situation.
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battery temp no, cpu temp every single day when i push my devuce hard.
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Yes, my battery temperature is almost always at 30C or below. I played GTA Vice City once for about an hour, and the battery temperature went to as high as 40C. My phone was unplugged the whole time of course.
As for CPU temperature... It probably got to about 50C-60C when the battery was at 40C. Not sure though. Still not too hot to the touch, and not hot enough to trigger crazy thermal throttling.
Hi,
I know that thermothrotteling is a feature to protect the cpu against damage. But what I notice that the temperature on my Note 910F is raising quire fast and that I am running into performance issue quite easily. Just playing arround the internet , watching something at youtube is bringing the device into the throtteling mode and than everthing is in slow motion (no hardcore games are neccessary). On my Note 3 I was never aware about such a situation.
Im using the Echoe rom 1.1 with the Ecoe kernel 3.5 (and fairly conservative power saving settings), but it is not kernel related because on stock it is the same.
Anybody facing a simelar situation?
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dingolino
Thats not normal :/ i guess sd being 28nm and clocked at 2.7ghz does generate some heat
Your not alone. That is the very reason why I rooted my phone yesterday. The Samsung DVFS is very aggressive on my note 4 with 4.4 kittkatt.
Iv noticed in benchmarks once my phone heats up a little it drops the GPU and CPU down to about half speed and im only getting half the score and in gaming after a few minutes I would start to notice a little lag and my cpu speed would be staying at 1297. It slowly drops down to that then stays around there.
I disabled the Samsung DVFS and use setcpu aswell to keep it at the full speed while gaming and it works great now and the temps are hardly any different.
Many thanks for the feedback.
I have switched off Touch boost und set Max cpu to 1.9GHz
Will see how it works.
Best regards
dingolino
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It is quite annoying have such a fast phone but it downclocks both the cpu and gpu after a few mins of gaming.
A good test is GTA vice city with the settings cranked up.
With DVFS enabled once it hits about 56 degrees it starts to throttle and downclocks the gpu and cpu to about half and the game becomes a laggy mess.
With DVFS disabled its as smooth as butter but the temp goes up to about 70 degrees. Whats the max safe temp for this phone?
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It is quite annoying have such a fast phone but it downclocks both the cpu and gpu after a few mins of gaming.
A good test is GTA vice city with the settings cranked up.
With DVFS enabled once it hits about 56 degrees it starts to throttle and downclocks the gpu and cpu to about half and the game becomes a laggy mess.
With DVFS disabled its as smooth as butter but the temp goes up to about 70 degrees. Whats the max safe temp for this phone?
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I do not know the safe setting.
I am using the echoe kernel and this kernel offers the “intellithermal“ feature from faux. You can set the temperatures when frequency throttling should start as well as kernel throttling. They give in the faux app also some recommendations.
Maybe you give out a try.
But I am disappointed because the throttling is affecting “normal“ life not only hard core gaming and this is for me somewhat a design fault.
At least on my Note 4 F
I never had this on my previous devices that I cannot watch a movie which is stored at my sd card. I have a number of tutorial and maintenance videos which are handy to watch on the device.
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dingolino
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I can confirm this on the N910W8. As soon as the device heats up the frame rates drop dramatically. I also don't game. Just day to day usage. It's strange that some fairly simple tasks can heat things up so much.
I removed my ScanDisk 64GB Class 10 SD card which seemed to improve the heat problem.
Also, when its cool it smokes through GeekBench 3. After it heats up it runs slower then a Galaxy S3.
Just you my friend, I don't have that problem
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Donkon....can you let me know what your idle phone cpu temp is? you can use the CpuTemp app and just let me know what it idles at on your homescreen and what it heats up to in a demanding game. Just make sure its the CPU temp and not the battery. thanks
It would be good to compare.
Also I was just doing some tests and these are my results.. im curious to know if these are normal temps.
My phone idles at around 34-38 degrees c.
With DVFS enabled it never goes above around 56 degrees as that's when it starts throttling down.
Iv never had any slowdowns in youtube or videos or anything like that. Its only gaming really and benchmarks where it starts to throttle once it heats up and in a game like gta it starts to lag abit once it throttles as it takes the gpu and cpu down to about half speed.
With DVFS disabled im able to run the full 2647 cpu speed when gaming and its as smooth as butter. My temp in riptide goes up to 58 degrees. In GTA vice city it goes up to around 70 degrees and in the unreal benchmark demo it goes up to about 74/75 degrees. Do these sound like normal temps when your running the full speed of the cpu?
Yeah, it is ok.
The Exynos start throttling at 80°C.
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Also I was just doing some tests and these are my results.. im curious to know if these are normal temps.
My phone idles at around 34-38 degrees c.
With DVFS enabled it never goes above around 56 degrees as that's when it starts throttling down.
Iv never had any slowdowns in youtube or videos or anything like that. Its only gaming really and benchmarks where it starts to throttle once it heats up and in a game like gta it starts to lag abit once it throttles as it takes the gpu and cpu down to about half speed.
With DVFS disabled im able to run the full 2647 cpu speed when gaming and its as smooth as butter. My temp in riptide goes up to 58 degrees. In GTA vice city it goes up to around 70 degrees and in the unreal benchmark demo it goes up to about 74/75 degrees. Do these sound like normal temps when your running the full speed of the cpu?
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Which kernel are you using and what means “DVFS“?
Which app are you using for the kernel settings?
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dingolino
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Im using the stock Kernel. Iv only rooted. I haven't installed a custom rom or Kernel yet.
the DVFS is samsungs own voltage and frequency control program. Its what causes the aggressive thermal throttling in kittkatt 4.4. Its been there for along time but in 4.4 its pretty much too aggressive.
When you disable it the phone wont throttle back the GPU and CPU and a silly 56 degrees so it wont start to lag in games after a few minutes.
If anyone has GTA vice city or the epic citadel unreal demo can they run it and tell me what there CPU temp goes up to in those.. I just want to make sure mines normal as it gets very hot. With DVFS it should go up to about 55-60 and without it will be around 70.
Does anyone have freezes followed by restarts when disabling DVFS for just some apps (using blacklist)? I have this problem and disabling DVFS for the whole system really annoys me (opening app speed is slowed down + power saving mode requires a restart). I'm using the exynos C version.
I have been doing some heavy gaming on my G5 while monitoring the temps, and to my utter amazement G5 never goes beyond 40C mark even after an hour of continuous gaming. Because of that it never throttles down and stays at max cores almost the whole time. Now, coming from G3 this is a HUGE improvement where normal temps would go beyond 80C and throttling would make gaming virtually unplayable (even after root and thermal tweaks)
Sample temps comparison after at least 30min of continuous gaming (room temp around 23C)
Lara Croft GO - Max settings
G3= 80C+ lag and throttling
G5=36C+ smooth
Xenowerk - Max settings
G3= 80C+ lag and throttling
G5=35C+ smooth
GTA San Andreas = Max settings
G3= UNPLAYABLE
G5=39C+ smooth (yes I cannot believe it finally runs like butter )
Dawn of Titans = Max settings
G3= 80C+ lag and throttling
G5=41C+ smooth
Real Racing 3 = Max Settings
G3= 75C+ smooth
G5=31C Lag
There you have it, overall a whole 45+ difference in temps while gaming !!! Not only do games run buttery smooth, the phone stay cool as a cucumber.
The only exception here is Real Racing 3, which I think needs to be patched to work properly on newer hardware (even S7 SD820 has similar performance issues)
This goes to show that Qualcomm have done a miracle with SD820 and kudos to LG as well for proper hardware implementation.
Let me know what you guys think and if you want me to do more comparisons like this
i hereby confirm the temps and add temple run 2 (both maps, runs like butter in the mines), asphalt 8 aswell as modern combat 4 and 5 to the list of low temp max settings games.
even antutu keeps it cool
I can use Autoguard dashcam software with GPS enabled, waze in the background, and charge my phone and it's only slightly warm.
NO LAG, CHOPPINES. PLAYING FOR FEW DAYS. APPLICABLE TO ALL SNAPDRAGON 810 DEVICES!
Update: Connect to charger if it lags. I've getting screen unresponsiveness after playing a few days without charging. Connecting to charger those lags are gone. Always try to play with mics and speakers off in game. Always cool your phone. It will feel burning otherwise.
Hi. I've seen lots of videos on YouTube, PUBG doesn't run properly and lags a lot on our device. Also its same on other snapdragon 810 devices. But its a high end chipset why should it lag? PUBG lags because of its throttling. But without throttling then burning heat.
Now do these:
I'm not responsible if anything bad happens.
1. Keep backup and delete thermal-config file, reboot.
2. Lower your CPU and GPU frequencies according to your game quality settings. Example: For Smooth and Medium FPS, set CPU to- big:960/633, little:1478mhz. or lower. GPU settings- 450/390 MHz. Check your settings and frequencies by yourself while playing.
You can disable CPU input boost if you feel.
3. Run A.C or Fan in your house, or play in much lower temperature.
4. Now run the game.
It won't lag, hang, and will run stable. But the device heats much. I tried even on HD at Ultra fps(GPU frequency didn't lower), the game ran perfectly and smoothly. though I lowered the CPU frequencies.
For HD and Ultra FPS:
1. CPU- big:1248(I tried and think enough, you may increase or decrease), little:1478.
2. GPU- I didn't lower GPU frequencies, it was running at 650, you may try 510 MHz.
3. Keep in mind to play in much lower temperature. Device will heat a lot. But won't lag a bit.
You can try. I'll update this thread sometimes.
Note: Always remind to paste thermal-config file in same directory and reboot, when you need. Also battery will drain faster in these. I tested it drains upto 27 percent per hour with throttled, and 29/30 percent without throttled on Smooth and Medium FPS with those settings.
*8*updated tested frequencies.