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Like the thread title says ive seen way too many posts bashing the playback quality so to those people watch this video on your xooms browser and you will be impressed and appreciate it more
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=iFohN2-Hqhg&v=iFohN2-Hqhg&gl=US
I think most people are talking about videos that they load onto the device sometimes has choppy playback. We know YouTube plays great. I haven't loaded much onto my device yet but you do experience some slowdown or choppyness I some videos. Most play without a hitch for me though
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I have several blu ray rips on mine and I haven't experienced any issues so far I converted using handbrake
I think the issue is the software people use to rip.
Granted I don't have my Xoom yet but I've read a lot of threads in preparation and I think the problem is the profile used to rip rather than the software. Apparently high profile 720p isn't working on the Xoom.
Hopefully it's a codec thing and fixable by either Moto adding the codecs or some third party app like CorePlayer.
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PaulG1488 said:
I have several blu ray rips on mine and I haven't experienced any issues so far I converted using handbrake
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I dont have my Xoom yet, but just so i know for when i get it, what profile/settings do you use for the converted rip?
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I dont have my Xoom yet, but just so i know for when i get it, what profile/settings do you use for the converted rip?
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There is a Xoom profile out there that works perfectly. See middle of this page http://www.xoomfaq.com/video/
1080p is a size not a measure of quality. I had a standard def camera that will shoot a better picture than my handheld HD cam and will shoot better than any phone or tablet camera. I do not know many that can tell the difference between high quality 720 vs 1080. Probably the same folks that can tell the difference between a 160kbps MP3 file vs a 300kbps one
Real HD, that plays off your BluRay player, is 48 Mbit/s. No tablet made today can play that level of quality.
Just because nobody mentioned it..
The problem was/is that users feel that most downloadable HD content files should not have to be re-encoded to play on an $600-$800 device. It is not that we can't use handbrake, or can't figure out how to download the preset which has already been posted on XDA. It is time consuming.
I got over it though, because watching 720P Tv shows on the train with the Xoom is awesome.
I loaded a Kenny vs. Spenny episode onto a store display via my Evo's bluetooth and it played fine. If the videos I converted for my Evo work on my Xoom, then that's fine with me, and it looks like they will. I cant tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10 inch screen unless I stare so hard I get a head ache anyway.
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There is a Xoom profile out there that works perfectly. See middle of this page http://www.xoomfaq.com/video/
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The link provided takes you to a page with XML code...how do you import this to Handbrake? Did you create a notepad file, copy/paste the text, and rename it with a .plist or .xml extension? I couldn't find any info on this in the Handbrake wiki.
As others have stated, its a tegra 2 issue. Tegra 2 is incapable of playing high profile h.264 video @ L4.1 or higher. Its a limitation of the video decode processor. As it stands right now, no tegra2 device has been seen playing ANY high profile video at all smoothly. Tegra 2 can play some main profile h.264 as long as its encoded exactly how the tegra2 likes it, ie no b frames etc.
The reason people like myself take issue with this is that the original ipad can play 720p high profile h.264 and my epic4g can play 720p high profile h.264. Neither of these devices were sold as being particularly capable of playing hd content. The xoom on the other hand was specifically sold as being able to play hd content, and the tegra.2 was advertised at being particlarly good at doing so. Then when both the xoom and tegra 2 are released we come to realize that it was a bs marketing ploy and "technically" it can display videos that are 720p and 1080p, but only if they are formatted in a ridiculously specific encode.
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As others have stated, its a tegra 2 issue. Tegra 2 is incapable of playing high profile h.264 video @ L4.1 or higher. Its a limitation of the video decode processor. As it stands right now, no tegra2 device has been seen playing ANY high profile video at all smoothly. Tegra 2 can play some main profile h.264 as long as its encoded exactly how the tegra2 likes it, ie no b frames etc.
The reason people like myself take issue with this is that the original ipad can play 720p high profile h.264 and my epic4g can play 720p high profile h.264. Neither of these devices were sold as being particularly capable of playing hd content. The xoom on the other hand was specifically sold as being able to play hd content, and the tegra.2 was advertised at being particlarly good at doing so. Then when both the xoom and tegra 2 are released we come to realize that it was a bs marketing ploy and "technically" it can display videos that are 720p and 1080p, but only if they are formatted in a ridiculously specific encode.
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This pretty much sums it up.
While I'm keeping my Xoom and have made peace with transcoding my videos I'd be lying if I said I wasn't expecting more from the video playback when I bought it.
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Just because nobody mentioned it..
The problem was/is that users feel that most downloadable HD content files should not have to be re-encoded to play on an $600-$800 device. It is not that we can't use handbrake, or can't figure out how to download the preset which has already been posted on XDA. It is time consuming.
I got over it though, because watching 720P Tv shows on the train with the Xoom is awesome.
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This nails the issue right on the head. Most 720p TV shows available on Usenet or via Bittorrent are encoded using video codec H264 "high" settings. From what I've read, the xoom struggles to play these files, which I would not have expected given its hardware specs. I'm still going to pick up a wifi-only model from Costco on Sunday, but I may jump to the Galaxy Tab if it is able to play "high" H264 files.
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I cant tell the difference between 720 and 1080 on a 10 inch screen unless I stare so hard I get a head ache anyway.
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I do not know many that can tell the difference between high quality 720 vs 1080.
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I'm pretty sure I read awhile back that for small screens (like 27" and smaller), if you're sitting/standing within a distance (say within 10 feet) it is pretty much impossible to tell if something is 720p vs 1080p. It only becomes more apparent on larger screens. Other people have mentioned it's probably too difficult to tell on a 10.1" screen, but I'm pretty sure it IS impossible to tell by just looking at it on a screen of that size. So 1080p is just overkill to me, only if you're going to output it on a large screen or something.
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I'm pretty sure I read awhile back that for small screens (like 27" and smaller), if you're sitting/standing within a distance (say within 10 feet) it is pretty much impossible to tell if something is 720p vs 1080p. It only becomes more apparent on larger screens. Other people have mentioned it's probably too difficult to tell on a 10.1" screen, but I'm pretty sure it IS impossible to tell by just looking at it on a screen of that size. So 1080p is just overkill to me, only if you're going to output it on a large screen or something.
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You have it wrong. You lose the ability to distinguish the resolution the further away from the screen you get. Since a tablet is right in front of you, you can certainly tell the difference. That said, it isn't really relevant because the Xoom only has a 720p screen and that isn't the point. We already have 1080p video encoded for use on other devices/screens and we don't want to have to re-encode them to play on the Xoom.
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The link provided takes you to a page with XML code...how do you import this to Handbrake? Did you create a notepad file, copy/paste the text, and rename it with a .plist or .xml extension? I couldn't find any info on this in the Handbrake wiki.
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Try this one
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That said, it isn't really relevant because the Xoom only has a 720p screen and that isn't the point.
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Yeah, totally forgot to mention that. 1280x800 definitely can't play full 1080p.
And yeah, I didn't factor in the "you sit way closer to a tablet than a TV factor," but I still would find it hard to believe that people could tell the difference of 720p vs 1080p on a 10.1" screen (even if you are 1-2 feet away, assuming the screen does support 1080p). Definitely not old people - my parents at first didn't see the difference between SD and HD. Now they can definitely tell and even laugh about how they couldn't distinguish the two at first.
Yes, they don't have the best eyesight at their age now. This is why I usually drive when we go somewhere.
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You have it wrong. You lose the ability to distinguish the resolution the further away from the screen you get. Since a tablet is right in front of you, you can certainly tell the difference. That said, it isn't really relevant because the Xoom only has a 720p screen and that isn't the point. We already have 1080p video encoded for use on other devices/screens and we don't want to have to re-encode them to play on the Xoom.
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I have the "problem" that I ripped all my movies and shows to fit my iPod classic screen (and the car stereo) at 640x480. I unless I want to watch a mini video I'll have to convert the movies anyway. I don't see what the big deal is. If you change your hardware you should expect to run into some kind of trouble. And honestly, our 720p HDTV in the kitchen has a brilliant picture and is hardly any different from the 1080p HDTVs that we have in other rooms.
The "big deal" is for warez peeps who can't play their warez HD videos. They know nothing about video encoding, and they don't want to know. But they do like to get on forums to whine about how they can't play their stolen goods. I've explained enough times that I feel like a broken record, but willful ignorance is a hard habit to break. But once more into the breach...
@muyoso
>Tegra 2 is incapable of playing high profile h.264 video @ L4.1 or higher
There's nothing that said a H.264 video has to be encoded at level 4.1. For 720p @30fps, 3.1 is fine. Check the H.264 wiki you're so fond of quoting. L4.1 is a warez standard.
But if you want, I can post a high profile @L4.1 clip, and I'll bet it will play just fine. Will you then shut up and leave?
>original ipad can play 720p high profile h.264 and my epic4g can play 720p high profile h.264
Great, no need for you to buy anything else then.
>Tegra 2 can play some main profile h.264 as long as its encoded exactly how the tegra2 likes it, ie no b frames etc.
BS. The Handbrake script I've posted, and people have used, used straight main profile (which allows B-frames).
>Then when both the xoom and tegra 2 are released we come to realize that it was a bs marketing ploy and "technically" it can display videos that are 720p and 1080p, but only if they are formatted in a ridiculously specific encode.
What's ridiculous is expecting devices to support warez videos, all of which are encoded for the PC platform, and many of which are badly encoded.
The problem with your whining is that it's all predicated on warez, and that's not something you can offer as evidence when it's put-up time and you're asked for proof.
>Its a limitation of the video decode processor.
And you know this because how? The Xoom is the first HC Teg2 device, and it's still in beta status. Every other Teg2 tab available thus far were Froyo, and all of them were also in beta status. Everything points to the driver support.
I asked you this twice before, and I'll ask it a third time: If you think the Teg2 is incapable of playing your warez vids, why are you still here?
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>Its a limitation of the video decode processor.
And you know this because how? The Xoom is the first HC Teg2 device, and it's still in beta status. Every other Teg2 tab available thus far were Froyo, and all of them were also in beta status. Everything points to the driver support.
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driver or not, high profile decoding of h264 is a know limitation of tegra2.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4181/...-a9s-coming-to-smartphonestablets-this-year/3
One of the stones we've thrown at NVIDIA is the lack of high profile H.264 decode support. Tegra 2 can decode main profile H.264 at up to 20Mbps, but throw any high profile 1080p content at the chip and it can't do it. This is a problem because a lot of video content out there today is high profile, high bitrate 1080p H.264.
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Just interested in the hdmi docks and if they will do 1080p .. either mkv or avi?.. also how the hdmi does netflix .. in hd(if available)?..at least 720p?
any experiences would be nice to hear.
thanks
Any dock or adapter will do 1080p output, BUT it will be 1080p if you play\stream video through any video player (Dice etc.) if you just stream interface of android (includes web pages, pictures etc.) it will have 720p resolution, the reason for that is that Android's UI runs at 720p max. at the moment. Regarding Netflix - I have no idea, I don't have, though I suppose it will not be higher than 720p, like Youtube app HD mode.
Netflix quality is awful at the moment on the tab as it is, on a larger screen it'd be useless
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it will have 720p resolution, the reason for that is that Android's UI runs at 720p max. at the moment.
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Correction: 800p
The output resolution is 1280x800, not 1280x720.
Some TV's may crop 40 pixels from the top and the bottom (because most TV's are in 16:9 ratio as opposed to the 16:10 ratio of the 7.7), but when connecting to my computer monitor (which is a 16:10 ratio screen at 1680x1050), I can see the entire image with no cropping. Even the display properties indicates that the input signal is 1280x800.
Just, y'know, FYI...
And I know this was mentioned, but in response to the OP, yes the 7.7 does do 1080p, provided that the video being played back is utilizing hardware acceleration for the playback, otherwise it is downscaled to 1280x800 (like in YouTube, or Netflix, etc.)
I have a TV cable for galaxy tab 7, u think is the same for 7.7 tab?
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I have a TV cable for galaxy tab 7, u think is the same for 7.7 tab?
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If you're referring to the composite video adapter for the 3.5mm headphone jack, then no, that will not work with the 7.7. The 7.7 only works with the HDMI adapter.
Fyo the netflix app was just updated, no better but not hd yet
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I demonstrate the HDMI output capabilities of the Amazon Kindle Fire HD 7" Tablet. I am very impressed with this feature.
PLEASE NOTE: This video does not do the output justice. Trust me, the color is very accurate and the contrast and saturation are very close to what you see on the tablet's screen. Unfortunately, this video shows the TV as being a little blown out. This is not the case in real life.
Stay tuned for even more videos soon!
I'm getting more and more convinced to buy one, keep the vids coming :]
If the video on the KFHD is only 720p is it outputting 720p or 1080p to the TV?
Do you know if Amazon instant video support 1080p output via KFHD?
Thank you. I'm wondering abouf upgrade from KF to KFHD and 720p v 1080p output would make the difference.
Hello?
If the KFHD renders at 720p how does it output at 1080p?
Does the processor process at 1080p and downsize to the 720p KFHD or are there two seperate renderings one for tablet and one for HDMI?
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Hello?
If the KFHD renders at 720p how does it output at 1080p?
Does the processor process at 1080p and downsize to the 720p KFHD or are there two seperate renderings one for tablet and one for HDMI?
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I'm not sure how to determine what the output is. It looks fantastic to me, but I can't give you specifics on whether it is 720p or 1080p. I'll do some further research.
>If the KFHD renders at 720p how does it output at 1080p?
HDMI output is [email protected] That's what the TV said about the input feed in OP's video.
UI display is undoubtedly upscaled from KFHD's 1280x800 (some top/bottom slice is likely cut off). Video render is likely native 1080p. It's easy to tell: Freeze-frame at a detailed frame and peruse the detail. Compare it to native 1080p playback on your PC. You should be able to see the diff if it's scaled-up 720p--and if you can't, then it's a moot point anyway.
Edit: On second thought, if the video is shown on both KF and TV displays, then it's probably scaled up 720p. To do native 1080p on TV, the KF would need to render two different res simultaneously, which may still be within the 4460's capability, but isn't the most expedient route.
Edit2: From looking at OP's vid again, it looks like KF preserves the entire UI display on HDMI out. So instead of lopping off the extra 80pix and losing part of the status/menu bars, it squishes the 16:10 AR down to TV's 16:9, which is preferable, as you can't normally tell the difference anyway.
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>If the KFHD renders at 720p how does it output at 1080p?
HDMI output is [email protected] That's what the TV said about the input feed in OP's video.
UI display is undoubtedly upscaled from KFHD's 1280x800 (some top/bottom slice is likely cut off). Video render is likely native 1080p. It's easy to tell: Freeze-frame at a detailed frame and peruse the detail. Compare it to native 1080p playback on your PC. You should be able to see the diff if it's scaled-up 720p--and if you can't, then it's a moot point anyway.
Edit: On second thought, if the video is shown on both KF and TV displays, then it's probably scaled up 720p. To do native 1080p on TV, the KF would need to render two different res simultaneously, which may still be within the 4460's capability, but isn't the most expedient route.
Edit2: From looking at OP's vid again, it looks like KF preserves the entire UI display on HDMI out. So instead of lopping off the extra 80pix and losing part of the status/menu bars, it squishes the 16:10 AR down to TV's 16:9, which is preferable, as you can't normally tell the difference anyway.
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Sounds about right. There is a TINY delay in the TV, so it's possible that is stemming from an independent render from the actual tablet's display. Either way, it sure looked good.
That is what I stated e.mote.
A video was played that was supposedly 1080p. Now the KFHD has to downscale the video to 720p since the resolution of 720p is 1280x720. The KFHD is 1280x800 so it will fit the screen with 80 extra vertical pixels.
1. Either the KFHD is sending the 1080p video output to HDMI before it downscales the resolution
2. The KFHD sends the downscaled resolution to HDMI
3. It has a seperate rendering for both outputs.
reverendkjr: If you could take two pictures of the KDHF playing a video in both 720p and 1080p and compare them we could more easily arrive at a solution.
Thank you.
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That is what I stated e.mote.
A video was played that was supposedly 1080p. Now the KFHD has to downscale the video to 720p since the resolution of 720p is 1280x720. The KFHD is 1280x800 so it will fit the screen with 80 extra vertical pixels.
1. Either the KFHD is sending the 1080p video output to HDMI before it downscales the resolution
2. The KFHD sends the downscaled resolution to HDMI
3. It has a seperate rendering for both outputs.
reverendkjr: If you could take two pictures of the KDHF playing a video in both 720p and 1080p and compare them we could more easily arrive at a solution.
Thank you.
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I don't think that a picture is going to help here. I watched a 720p and a 1080p trailer on the device. They look identical. I could not see any difference at all. I also looked at the TV playing both. There was a definite difference. The 1080p was indeed a lot higher quality.
My conclusion:
On the device, it scales. So it can only play whatever resolution the device can handle. In this case, 1280x800.
The HDMI must have it's own render, because I believe it was definitely playing 1080p on the TV.
>If you could take two pictures of the KDHF playing a video in both 720p and 1080p
You can't take a snapshot of HDMI out. The reason content vendors selected HDMI is that it's a secure path which prevent signals from being captured (read: pirated). There are HDMI recorders, but AFAIK they do analog captures, which means a fidelity loss.
The only sure way to tell is from the eyeball test, which needs to be done firsthand. If you're that worried about it, go to a BestBuy and ask to have the demo model plugged into a TV display, then run a 1080p clip and do the eyeball test yourself.
I apologize if my request was not sufficiently clear. What I meant was a picture of the TV via HDMI out of the KFHD with a lens that captures images with a sufficiently high resolution.
For now, as it is apparent you have, by your testimony, tested via direct visual experience, I will grant that you are correct and that the output of 1080p video is of significantly higher quality compared to that of 720p.
Thank you reverendkjr.
Well I have a cheap router and only a small cable modem from Verizon and I can get Netflix to play what I'd call more than acceptable on the KFHD. However, going to the TV from there, the picture is not even close.
If it was bad on the KFHD I can understand. Does something have to be enabled or maybe it is the cheap cable I picked up from Best Buy that I use with my Acer A500? It works at least so I thought it would be compatible with the KFHD but maybe not good enough.
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Well I have a cheap router and only a small cable modem from Verizon and I can get Netflix to play what I'd call more than acceptable on the KFHD. However, going to the TV from there, the picture is not even close.
If it was bad on the KFHD I can understand. Does something have to be enabled or maybe it is the cheap cable I picked up from Best Buy that I use with my Acer A500? It works at least so I thought it would be compatible with the KFHD but maybe not good enough.
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You have to check your bandwidth. Since you're on your KFHD it might be difficult.
Netflix 720p requires about 5mbps. You can Google bandwidth test from a PC to check your download speed. If it's less than 5mbps your video won't be 720p.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_video#World_Wide_Web_HD_resolutions
It looks like Amazon instant is only 720p. Netflix only supports 1080p on certain devices. So much for 1080p.
Cable modem and router to my KFHD I understand about bandwidth and the PQ is very good, BUT I I'm unaware of bandwidth being an issue from KFHD to TV unless I'm mistaken.
I need to read other experiences with this feature and how good or not it is. Something tells me it isn't the cable I'm using either from KFHD to TV.
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Cable modem and router to my KFHD I understand about bandwidth and the PQ is very good, BUT I I'm unaware of bandwidth being an issue from KFHD to TV unless I'm mistaken.
I need to read other experiences with this feature and how good or not it is. Something tells me it isn't the cable I'm using either from KFHD to TV.
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Well KFHD has less than half the pixels of a 1080p TV and the pixels are much more dense in terms of ppi(pixels per inch). When you view the video on your KFHD through netflix and the stream is less than 720p due to bandwidth constrictions, it is entirely likely that the picture will look fine on your KFHD but inadequate on a larger TV with a much lower pixel density.
If your bandwith is less than 5mbps you won't be viewing HD video through Netflix, it will be SD (standard definition) which won't look good on a HDTV.
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Well KFHD has less than half the pixels of a 1080p TV and the pixels are much more dense in terms of ppi(pixels per inch). When you view the video on your KFHD through netflix and the stream is less than 720p due to bandwidth constrictions, it is entirely likely that the picture will look fine on your KFHD but inadequate on a larger TV with a much lower pixel density.
If your bandwith is less than 5mbps you won't be viewing HD video through Netflix, it will be SD (standard definition) which won't look good on a HDTV.
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Thanks for the clarification.
I have a Blu Ray player I stream movies from to the TV which is pretty good so not having a great picture from the KFHD to TV isn't the end of the world to me. I don't stream that much really, I just flip in a Blu Ray disc for PQ nirvana.
I picked up a cheap HDMI to HDMI micro cable at Best Buy to test the HDMI out on the Kindle Fire HD (Rockfish)
I tested the HDMI output playing a couple of HD movies from Amazon Prime (True Grit and Into the Wild). Both of these movies look fantastic on the Kindle Fire HD. However, when viewing on the my HDTV's, the quality of the video is not that good. For example: It's not nearly as sharp as an HD program via Direct TV for example. The picture is kind of washed out and not very clear. It looks a lot like SD instead of HD.
I also noticed that the audio is not being output as Dolby Digital 5.1. I was hoping that it was.Has anyone had any luck Dolby 5.1 sound output?
Note: I tried it on 2 TV's (One 50 inch Samsung 1080P Plasma and also on a 37 inch Panasonic 720P Plasma). Similar results on both. Maybe it's the cheap "Rockfish" cable I picked up at Best Buy to test with? Maybe I'm missing a setting somewhere? I was hoping for typical HD quality picture when using the HDMI out. But, I'm not seeing it on my TV's at least. btw....I have charter cable internet (50mbs download speed)....so plenty of speed.
I tried outputting to a smaller Sony HDTV display, 32" instead of my Samsung 40". While better, movies isn't something with my current router and cable modem I will be doing from the KFHD.
I have an Acer A500 which has HDMI interface as well. Maybe I'll try it again as I cannot recall if the pq was any better.
As far as the HDMI cable? I'm still unsure if a higher quality one would make any difference whatsoever given my router and cable modem bandwidth to begin with.
There's always games though. Riptide is lots of fun so a plus for that to my HDTV displays!
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I tried outputting to a smaller Sony HDTV display, 32" instead of my Samsung 40". While better, movies isn't something with my current router and cable modem I will be doing from the KFHD.
I have an Acer A500 which has HDMI interface as well. Maybe I'll try it again as I cannot recall if the pq was any better.
As far as the HDMI cable? I'm still unsure if a higher quality one would make any difference whatsoever given my router and cable modem bandwidth to begin with.
There's always games though. Riptide is lots of fun so a plus for that to my HDTV displays!
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Thanks for the feedback on the HDTV test. I was really hoping for some better performance for Amazon Instant "HD" video when using HDMI to output to my 50 inch 1080P Plasma. However, based on my testing, the HDMI out on the Kindle Fire HD is something I would never use. At least not for watching Amazon instant "HD" video. I was hoping for something along the lines of what I see when I steam a movie using the Apple TV (really good "HD" picture quality). Still the Amazon instant "HD" video looks great on the Kindle Fire itself & at $199 it's quite the deal. Just wish I had an option to see "quality" Amazon content on my HDTV's (ie without purchasing another device like Roku).
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I'm getting more and more convinced to buy one, keep the vids coming :]
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ok~
Sorry for my english.
I have a big problem.
The Galaxy tab 2 have write to package that the recorder video is Full HD (1080P) and the manual pag. 67, reporting that the video is 1280x800; why?
I have speak with Samsung Italy, the response are: you are right, sorry, i send immediately a email to Korea.
Please you tablet records video at 1080p?
Ettore Ribaudo
It doesn't say 1080P recording but playback. It says HD on recording, but not full-HD. My P3113 records in 1280x720.
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It doesn't say 1080P recording but playback. It says HD on recording, but not full-HD. My P3113 records in 1280x720.
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The package says Full HD (1080P) HD Playback & recording!
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The package says Full HD (1080P) HD Playback & recording!
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Actually, it says full 1080p HD playback and HD recording. It could be misleading if you don't catch that.
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Edit: The recording is in HD, just 720p...
Maybe if you posted it in English.
The box is technically accurate but misleading. HD is anything 1280x720 or higher resolution. It will play back 1080P videos but will down convert them to 1280x720 since this is the tablets native resolution. It cannot playback 1080P videos at 1080P but it does not say that. It says it will play back 1080P videos. It should note *at 1280x720 resolution*. The only way it could play back full 1080P is if the screen resolution was 1920x1080 which it is not. It records in 1280x720 which again, is HD. If your planning to record HD video on this tablet I'm afraid you are going to disappointed. Quality is not that good in my opinion.
My box says "HD (720p) Playback* & Recording"
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My box says "HD (720p) Playback* & Recording"
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Why in Italy have FULL HD and in other Country HD?
I have buy a Tablet Full HD, i am now a tablet is not full hd, because the screen is 1281x720.
Ettore
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Do you have a tab 2 7" or 10"? The 7" has a 3MP camera and thus can only do 720p. I think the 10" has more MP and can do 1080p recordings even though playback won't be 1080p. If you copy the recording to a computer, playback will be 1080p. Does that make sense?
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Dralanmage said:
Do you have a tab 2 7" or 10"? The 7" has a 3MP camera and thus can only do 720p. I think the 10" has more MP and can do 1080p recordings even though playback won't be 1080p. If you copy the recording to a computer, playback will be 1080p. Does that make sense?
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No, it makes no sense, but if you sell a product for 1080P playback and recording in, because I can not see it on my tablet?
Also, if records in 1080P, how can I see if the screen is 1280x720? This is called false advertising in Italy
My tablet is 10".
vegastore said:
No, it makes no sense, but if you sell a product for 1080P playback and recording in, because I can not see it on my tablet?
Also, if records in 1080P, how can I see if the screen is 1280x720? This is called false advertising in Italy
My tablet is 10".
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Not really false advertising if it says HD playback not specifically 1010p HD playback.
I'm not trying to be a ****, but is not the purpose of recording videos , to share them. Therefore the 1080p playback on anything other than YOUR tablet is the desired outcome.
The OP may be right. I don't have the 10" model and my 7" specifically says 720p with a 3MP camera. Looking at this, it appears the 10" model has the same camera and also records in 720p. Can someone else confirm?
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_2_10_1_p5100-4567.php
Maybe you should complain to the store you bought it from and ask for a refund if you are unhappy with it.
For myself, my galaxy nexus does 1080p video (but my display is 720p), and it is much more portable and convenient to use for recording. If I record a video, I prefer to watch it on my computer or TV. For me, the tablet is more of a portable web browser, gaming platform, eBook, and media streaming box. I can understand if you made your purchase for other reasons though.
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Dralanmage said:
The OP may be right. I don't have the 10" model and my 7" specifically says 720p with a 3MP camera. Looking at this, it appears the 10" model has the same camera and also records in 720p. Can someone else confirm?
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_2_10_1_p5100-4567.php
Maybe you should complain to the store you bought it from and ask for a refund if you are unhappy with it.
For myself, my galaxy nexus does 1080p video (but my display is 720p), and it is much more portable and convenient to use for recording. If I record a video, I prefer to watch it on my computer or TV. For me, the tablet is more of a portable web browser, gaming platform, eBook, and media streaming box. I can understand if you made your purchase for other reasons though.
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I have a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 model GT-P5113 and the box states "HD Video Capture and Playback", it doesn't specify 1080p or 720p on the box at all. The included recording app will let you choose a maximum resolution of 1280x720 for video recording.
Edit: http://www.samsung.com/us/system/co...tsyxar/Galaxy_Tab_II_10.1_Spec_Sheets_v13.pdf shows 1080p playback at 30fps and says nothing about the resolution of recording video, only that it has a 3MP camera.
You can't tell the difference between 1080 and 720 on anything smaller then a 32 inch screen anyways.
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You can't tell the difference between 1080 and 720 on anything smaller then a 32 inch screen anyways.
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I agree, however, the issue the OP has is that he was expecting Full HD recording, which the Galaxy Tab 2 is not capable of.
I was looking for a cheap Android tablet to function as a dedicated podcast and video playing device.
Basically, I just want to download video podcasts (automatically, overnight) as well as play some 1080p bluray MKV files.
The Nook HD+ with 32 GB and a micro-SDHC slot for $179 seems like an amazingly good price.
What is the catch?
Will it play 1080p MKV files (and stream across a network) quickly? How badly does it lag?
It depends on how they are encoded, since might correctly leverage the hardware and might not.
sofakng said:
I was looking for a cheap Android tablet to function as a dedicated podcast and video playing device.
Basically, I just want to download video podcasts (automatically, overnight) as well as play some 1080p bluray MKV files.
The Nook HD+ with 32 GB and a micro-SDHC slot for $179 seems like an amazingly good price.
What is the catch?
Will it play 1080p MKV files (and stream across a network) quickly? How badly does it lag?
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It'll depend on which exact version of h.264 high profile is used, audio shouldn't be a huge issue - though surround would cause useless extra processing for something that'll only output stereo. Native DTS or Dolby Digital may also be an issue but I haven't looked at Android support for those.
I use mine (with the CyanogenMod) to play back videos. Not tried big 1080p files yet but smaller demo clips work fine. I often play back 720p TV rips mkv files no problem.
Would the Nexus 7 be more powerful at decoding 1080p videos?
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Would the Nexus 7 be more powerful at decoding 1080p videos?
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It won't play 1080p as 1080p. Nexus 7 resolution is 1280×800. So it has a better performance anyway as it has a lower resolution and better hardware.
Unless you're talking about Nexus 7 2nd generation, which will have 1080p screen and will probably perform better than hd+ too, but I don't know when it'll be released
sofakng said:
I was looking for a cheap Android tablet to function as a dedicated podcast and video playing device.
Basically, I just want to download video podcasts (automatically, overnight) as well as play some 1080p bluray MKV files.
The Nook HD+ with 32 GB and a micro-SDHC slot for $179 seems like an amazingly good price.
What is the catch?
Will it play 1080p MKV files (and stream across a network) quickly? How badly does it lag?
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I just tested an MP4 file with the following info (windows):
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
It seemed to play wonderfully using MX Player on my HD+. Does that help?
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I just tested an MP4 file with the following info (windows):
It seemed to play wonderfully using MX Player on my HD+. Does that help?
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Thanks so much!
I think for $179 (32 GB version) it's an amazing deal.
How big is the letter-boxing when watching 16:9 videos? (I think it will be a little worse than the full iPad which is unfortunate, but not terrible)
sofakng said:
The Nook HD+ with 32 GB and a micro-SDHC slot for $179 seems like an amazingly good price.
What is the catch?
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There is no catch.
They were originally priced at $279(16GB) & $300(32GB). Even with that kind of pricing it was kind of a no-profit deal for B&N. Their hope was to build an ecosystem akin to Amazon, hence the low prices on the devices.
Since that didn't pan out, they are now stuck with a boatload of these devices (I'm guessing). To clear them out, they dropped the prices; first from $279 to $179 (Mother's day) and now to $149 (Father's day).
Since they are selling so well at these prices they decided to extend the sale for an undisclosed period of time.
The internal hardware is not top-shelf, kinda average and mid-range specs.
However, most of the money is in the screen, which is top-notch.
Since these are meant to be ereaders, B&N devoted a major chunk of the budget to the screen.
The resolution is not standard 1920x1080; it is 1920x1280. With a screen size of 9", it translates to a pixel density of 257ppi, compared to the 264ppi of the Retina Display iPad.
For $150, you can't get such an LCD panel. You could buy 3 of these for less than the price of 1 iPad.
Also, note that the next Nexus 7 is rumored to be priced at $230; that's an $80 difference if you compared the 16GB models.
My suggestion: buy the 16GB model and invest $30-$40 in a 64GB card. Its a no-brainer.
sofakng said:
Thanks so much!
I think for $179 (32 GB version) it's an amazing deal.
How big is the letter-boxing when watching 16:9 videos? (I think it will be a little worse than the full iPad which is unfortunate, but not terrible)
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Here is a screen shot of a 1080p mp4 trailer:
and here it is cropped:
Both using MX Player.
sofakng said:
Thanks so much!
I think for $179 (32 GB version) it's an amazing deal.
How big is the letter-boxing when watching 16:9 videos? (I think it will be a little worse than the full iPad which is unfortunate, but not terrible)
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It's a 16:9 screen. 16:9 video will display with no bars.
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It's a 16:9 screen. 16:9 video will display with no bars.
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The screen is actually closer to 16:10, the resolution is 1920x1280.
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My suggestion: buy the 16GB model and invest $30-$40 in a 64GB card. Its a no-brainer.
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There are a lot of 64gb cards that don't work well with the Nook HD+
The most reliable one is the 64gb Sandisk Class 6 and I have one that works perfectly.
Lowest price I found was amazon for $ 80. still worth it though. I bought the 32gb Nook HD+
so now I have a 96gb awesome tablet for way less than a Nexus or Samsung would be
with that much storage.
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The screen is actually closer to 16:10, the resolution is 1920x1280.
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ya 3:2 ratio.
the great part is HD video still fits very well and the real bonus is, you
can do a zoom with MX player with 4:3 content that clips only a very
slight unnoticeable amount of the top and bottom for full screen playback.
the combination of 3:2 aspect screen and 9" size is perfect for that.
Nice thread. I've just ordered a Nook HD+ for watching TV/movies on my regular train journey (4hrs).
I plan on installing CyanogenMod: any good ideas for optimisation for speed? I really don't care how pretty the UI is, I just need it to be snappy and bulletproof when watching MKVs.
Does the Nook HD+ have any problems if the soundtracks are DTS or DD? Will I have to transcode before transfer?
On a full battery will the Nook HD+ play OK for 4 hours (1080p AVC/VC1/x264 MKVs)?
Any recommendations on a video app? I use MX Player on my HOX but if there is anything that performs better (i.e. hardware acceleration?) I'd love to know.
Does using USB OTG drain battery more than reading from internal memory?
Thanks for your time.
Edit: Read this thread, looks good! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2434493
If you want zero hassle, use 720p vids. There is no visual difference on a 9" screen, it's smaller size than 1080p (read: you can pack more vids onto a SD card), and HD+ can handle most of them with either hardware or software decoding.
HD+ can do 1080p if it can use hardware decode, which may or not happen depending on where you get your nuggets. If you roll your own flicks, you can adjust encoding params to allow hardware decoding (mainly, keep ref frames < 14). The problem area is with animes, which commonly use VFR and ref=16. Again, keeping it to 720p should solve most probs.
Some have their existing libs of 1080p flicks that they want to watch. If you have the knowledge and spare PC cycles, I would batch transcode the lot to 720p, which also makes streaming via wifi possible. Recoding VFR animes does require some reading.
>Does the Nook HD+ have any problems if the soundtracks are DTS or DD?
For standard 5.1 DTS/AC3, MX requires installing a custom codec (link within the app) because of legal issues. I haven't tried with 7.1 stuff (DTS MA, etc).
>On a full battery will the Nook HD+ play OK for 4 hours
Generally, yes. It may vary depending whether hardware or software decoding is used.
>Any recommendations on a video app?
I use MX, and it seems to be the most popular at the moment. I tried BS a few weeks ago in trialing various players, but it wasn't on par with MX.
>Does using USB OTG drain battery more than reading from internal memory?
If HD+ has to power the USB device, then it uses more battery.
I purchased a Nook HD+ a while ago and have recently purchased a Nexus 7 (2013).
The Nook HD+ has a fantastic screen, SD card slot, and a great size, but it's incredibly slow. I have problems playing many video files. For example, MX Player won't do HW decode on MPEG-2 video and even 1080p MKV (H.264) videos often play choppy, etc. (I'm using CM 10.1)
It's really too bad because the Nexus 7's screen is just a bit too small for me. I'm thinking about picking up a Nexus 10 but I'm guessing a refresh is probably coming soon...
Might want to hold off and get the ASUS 701. Tegra 4, 32gb, sd slot and even higher res than HD+ for $400. Like the A6X, Tegra 4 has robust hardware scaling, so should not have gpu issues pushing all the pixels. Plus great video support for media.
The HD+ is bogged down by the very thing attracting most of us (the display). Well, that combined with price.
I agree with 720p being a better option. Less resources and less space. Not seeing how anyone could tell the difference with 1080p unless on a 24" or larger display.
I am a tad tempted in returning my HD+ and getting the 701. That way I can use one tablet for everything rather than using other tablets for 3D gaming. Then again, the HD is a nice size and convenient.
Will probably keep the HD+ since it is great for everything but heavy 3d gaming........ Yep, I am keeping it. The positives outweigh the one main negative. Price helps too.
I do two things with blu-rays: rip to mkv format, then convert to mp4 via Handbrake. I haven't had problems with 1080p but 720p works great too, and set audio to ffmpeg. My WiFi router has a uPnP server built in, so I just put the movie on a USB stick, plug it in, for streaming over WiFi. Then I watch using MX player and bubble upnp.
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Nook HD+ vs iPad
sofakng said:
I think it will be a little worse than the full iPad which is unfortunate, but not terrible
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Actually, the Nook HD+ should be as good as the iPad because both machines are the same width (when watching movies). The iPad is taller, but that extra screen area is not used for viewing a movie.