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After perm-root, is the rest of the NAND available?
joebobjoe said:
After perm-root, is the rest of the NAND available?
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Well, simply rooting isn't going to magically open up the internal storage; that's why it's still listed as 1.1x GB after. The root just came out this morning; just like us patient people gave the devs to root, give them time to fiddle with the storage. They'll probably figure it out soon enough.
Fortunately the storage is still a crapload. I've gone from what... 1.16GB? stock to 1.1GB, and I don't see myself using the rest of it at all.
Yup, I don't even think I need all that space. Right now I have 888MB free, and that is with ALL my apps installed on phone memory, as I prefer not moving to SD Card...
I just wanted to ask, does moving to SD Card do anything other than free up space of the phone memory? If it does make stuff run faster etc, then only I see a reason to move apps to sd card..
Freeing up space is the only real benefit for Androids native apps2sd...
Apps2ext on the other hand, was really nice to have if you like trying out different roms.
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franky1029 said:
Freeing up space is the only real benefit for Androids native apps2sd...
Apps2ext on the other hand, was really nice to have if you like trying out different roms.
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On the G1 they where able to re-allocate memory from the GPU to the CPU to increase the speed of the G1 at the cost of 3D games. Believe Cyanogen did this, Yes, 1.x gigs is plenty BUT, what if the rest of the "4 gigs" could be focused on the GPU side of things to increase FPS? hehe Counter Strike on the G2..rofl Maybe using the other space for a full linux distro? a dual boot?
Dual Boot could be very nice, yes..
That actually sounds quite viable.
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Okay I tried to search the forum but it was giving me "token expired" errors even though I tried searching multiple times and even after reloading. So I'm sorry if this is a repost or has already been asked!
Anyway the Nexus 7 gives has 13gb of 16gb free for use. Is there anyway this can be further increased?
wr8_utd said:
Okay I tried to search the forum but it was giving me "token expired" errors even though I tried searching multiple times and even after reloading. So I'm sorry if this is a repost or has already been asked!
Anyway the Nexus 7 gives has 13gb of 16gb free for use. Is there anyway this can be further increased?
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no. the reason for this is android takes up a bit of that space.
Nope no way. Its partitioned for the operating system. Just like we have 1GB of ram but only 900mbs is usable.
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Gremlins ate it.
Hungry little buggers....
Enjoy it while it lasts... I'm at 3 gb of 16 free... almost time for the external flash drive set up.
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Okay I tried to search the forum but it was giving me "token expired" errors even though I tried searching multiple times and even after reloading. So I'm sorry if this is a repost or has already been asked!
Anyway the Nexus 7 gives has 13gb of 16gb free for use. Is there anyway this can be further increased?
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Possibly with LVM if you have the time and knowledge
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check out the storage space used on a new desktop or laptop pc as soon as you bought it.. You will see some of it taken up .. by windows there is also a Recovery partition (often hidden from user ) as well as a cache partition boot partition and partition tables also take up space on the storage disk.
This device was designed to use cloud base storage .I for one think its a great idea.. But i would love for some of the games to be able to play across OTG ...
Thank you for all your replies. I guess I'll be relying on OTG for my games and movies then. Already ordered the cable bought the app
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the Nexus 7 gives has 13gb of 16gb free for use. Is there anyway this can be further increased?
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Uninstall the OS.
32GB Nexus 7 Storage Space on Arrival
Guys,
I fully realise that on arrival (new) that the N7 will have a certain amount of storage used for the OS, Installed App's etc. Roughly how much should this be? I received my 32GB N7 yesterday and on looking at available storage it was 27.63 GB so effectively 4.5GB used. Is this normal as it seems a lot for the ROM and few apps!
AW: 13gb of 16gb free.
taff2408 said:
Guys,
I fully realise that on arrival (new) that the N7 will have a certain amount of storage used for the OS, Installed App's etc. Roughly how much should this be? I received my 32GB N7 yesterday and on looking at available storage it was 27.63 GB so effectively 4.5GB used. Is this normal as it seems a lot for the ROM and few apps!
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You lucky one.. I only got 27.56 free.. Yes it's normal ^^
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taff2408 said:
Guys,
I fully realise that on arrival (new) that the N7 will have a certain amount of storage used for the OS, Installed App's etc. Roughly how much should this be? I received my 32GB N7 yesterday and on looking at available storage it was 27.63 GB so effectively 4.5GB used. Is this normal as it seems a lot for the ROM and few apps!
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Quick primer in storage...
Manufacturers and operating systems use two different, but both technically correct, methods of calculating storage capacity. 32GB translates to roughly 29.8GB a far as the software is concerned. As such, you've overestimated the storage used by the system files by over 2GB.
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taff2408 said:
Guys,
I fully realise that on arrival (new) that the N7 will have a certain amount of storage used for the OS, Installed App's etc. Roughly how much should this be? I received my 32GB N7 yesterday and on looking at available storage it was 27.63 GB so effectively 4.5GB used. Is this normal as it seems a lot for the ROM and few apps!
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32gb is actually about 29.5 so that seems normal.
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16 Gig USB flash drive gives u 14 Gig of free space ....
So formatting also takes some space .
XDA-99 said:
16 Gig USB flash drive gives u 14 Gig of free space ....
So formatting also takes some space .
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It is simply due to the fact that there are two different methods of measuring storage capacity. Hard drive manufacturers report a gigabyte as one billion bytes. Software, on the other hand, uses a binary system to measure capacity and reports 1,073,741,824 bytes as one gigabyte. As such, a completely empty 16GB drive is going to only show as roughly 14.8GB.
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Its the same on every electronic as previous poster explained. My 32GB iPod touch has somewhere around 28GB available, 32GB Zune HD has around 28GB, 32GB micro SD card has some 28-29GB available, and we won't even mention how much is "missing" from my laptops 500GB HDD.
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Hi all
I want help from u guys..im planning to buy N7..but my problem is which one to buy 16gb or 32gb?
I just want to store my photo collection, couple of useful apps,
Pls help me..
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Of normal use for you is downloading every ROM and every App that you see than no. But for normal use is fine, unless you have 20gb of music like me
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very good tablet to buy, congrats! from what it sounds like 16gb sounds good for you, but if available i recommend the 32gb because you never know when you need any extra storage. Have fun with it!
If you can swing the extra 50 dollars. Might as well go with the 32gb model of the nexus. That way you will have room to grow if you need the extra space.
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I dual boot ubuntu and android, and still have plenty of room on my 16Gb N7. Otg helps alot as well.
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I have to agree, if you can go for the 32. I have the 16 with 4gb of space left and am thinking of upgrading.
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2kbandit said:
If you can swing the extra 50 dollars. Might as well go with the 32gb model of the nexus. That way you will have room to grow if you need the extra space.
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This. While you may not need it today, there may be a situation when you will. I fly a lot and being able to store lots of music and movies internally was worth the extra $50 for a 32gb model. I also use my N7 to fly my AR Drone and I like being able to record its video direct to the tablet.
Dwars said:
Hi all
I want help from u guys..im planning to buy N7..but my problem is which one to buy 16gb or 32gb?
I just want to store my photo collection, couple of useful apps,
Pls help me..
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To be honest, for a tablet I would almost always recommend a 32gb or bigger version. First thing is that the 16gb nexus 7 is 199.99. The 32gb is 249.99. But, I have seen deals very often online selling the 32gb for 229.99. So, for 29.99 more, you can double your storage.
My biggest thing is, why not future proof yourself a little. 16gb is fine if you are going to use your tablet for internet browsing and streaming music. But if you want to download lots of new games (legit games like ea) then they will take up large chunks of storage. Also, if you plan to put music and movies, they will also eat up that storage. Especially movies. At least with a 32gb, you don't have to worry about swapping files in and out of the storage. Just my 2 cents.
I bought my 32gb nexus 7 for $229.99 no tax and free shipping from a power seller on ebay. Great shopping experience!
I have 32 gb version . I did upgrade from 16..And can tell you its awesome.. I have the multi rom recovery with multi booting .. Stock 4.2.1 Ubuntu . Cm 10 and sometimes a 4th rom if im bored..
Still have lots of space and do not have to worry about checking or moving things around to make room
So get the 32 if you can afford it .. but 16 can work..
good luck
I agree with the 32gb. 16 would probably suffice right now but this is a nexus device so it will have a long life. Granted I had a few bigger games on my 16gb but I was having to manage those regularly. I didn't even have media stored on the unit, just a few games.
In a year, apps and games are just going to be bigger. Plus the fact you are even on here should tell you to get the bigger version.
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If you are planning on using this for a long time, get 32GB. I gave my 16GB to my sister and got a 32GB, I will always go fir the highest I can get.
Plus this thing is good for gaming as well so grab that 32GB.
I say go for the 32gb. I myself have the 16gb, but I don't play games on mine, nor store movies, (maybe books in the future, but cloud storage works for me). Plus I have StickMount and two 8gb flash drives.
Thank u all of u guys....i decied to get 32 gb....thanks a lot..
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Dwars said:
Thank u all of u guys....i decied to get 32 gb....thanks a lot..
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I think you made the best choice its not to much more and some of the apps are quite big, its always good to have space just incase. I thougth 16 would be enough for me but man I was wrong. But than again when I had mine I only had the option of 16gb
I have the 16 and it's basically fine unless you put movies or games with giant data files on it. If you can swing it, 32gb is even better. But another option is to get 16 and wait for next year's Nexus tablet rollouts. I thought about upgrading to 32gb but decided at this point it is better to wait and see what Google has for us in May.
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16 GB Is for my opinion too much little to be used as a true tablet.
It's true that you can expand the storage memory via stickmount, but it isn't so confortable tu be used with games or music or other stuff that you need to be in the tablet.
32 gb is for me the best choice
Get the 32GB.
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If you can swing the extra 50 dollars. Might as well go with the 32gb model of the nexus. That way you will have room to grow if you need the extra space.
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This.. I have the 32gb, and while the wife and I may never have to use it all, it is nice knowing its there.
That said, given that you can use USB storage without rooting (read only of course), you can probably get away with 16gb and a $1 otg cable for your favorite thumb drive (this will work great for movies or music on a long trip, where you want lots of stuff you won't need saved on the device itself.)
My thing is that my phone has tons of storage and I won't need my Nexus to have everything on it. It really matters on what you plan to put on it, really. My phone holds my music and has great audio capabilities... I don't mind only having a few videos on my tablet and having the rest on my flash drive or phone. It really is up to personal preference.
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I got the 32 gb storage and it is far too big. Ive used like a quarter of available storage and have all sorts of apps and movies loaded. I guess my philosophy when buying it was that more never hurts, especially when its only 50 bucks difference
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Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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I show 9.62 available on mine. It is kind of odd, but they did add a TON of bloatware. Once we get root and can remove those apps, we should be able to recapture quite a bit back.
highaltitude said:
Anyone else connect their phone to a PC and have the internal storage say 9.51GB and not 16GB? Does the phone use up over 6GB for the OS and stock apps? What gives?
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Could be like the HOX and have around 10 for whatever storage and 6 dedicated for app storage and software/rom
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Yeah...seems pretty typical for a phone. ..they arent lieing as they never said 16gb useable...
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Yeah mine shows 9.62 total space and 8.48 available after installing my apps from previous phone, kinda sucks but at least there is an SD slot.
I was curious so I checked my old Sprint GNEX 32GB, it also has a chunk missing, about 7.5GB missing, so it is similar.
It would be nice if they listed the missing space as Reserved or System etc. instead of not showing it.
Yup guys 16GB total internal. The ROM and software has to sit somewhere on there. And AT&T has added so much crap to it I'm not surprised. But thats what the SD card slot is for yeah?
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
Aou said:
The stock apps seem to use up at least 1GB, plus any data they have.
Unsure about the system, but even the system for CyanogenMod 10.1 seemed to be around 600-800MB with all cache/data included. With TouchWIZ on these phones and all the extra bloat, it wouldn't surprise me if there were at least another gig in there.
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Exactly. I heard the ROM file for the S4 was like 1.2 gigs or something like that. That's without cache and whatever else it needs to do.
I remember when I had the S3 the ROM file was like 800 megs for TW. And for AOSP it was like 250.
Even with a debloated rom its gonna be the same as the system partition is already set regardless of whats on it...just so you guys know of course it is posssiboe for a dev to tweak partition amounts...but they typically dont unless necessary
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Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Denomenance said:
Is this something new for phones? It's pretty ridiculous, and kind of makes me wish I had waited for the 32gb version if I had known such a simple feature would be gone :l
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Hi,
It's a 4.2.2 "Feature"
It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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It's for the greater good. New generation NAND smokes microSD performance, and you don't wanna bottleneck your device by multitasking from SD. On the other hand 16GB should be dropped entirely, we're talking very minimal cost difference for Samsung, so why not start at 32gigs or 64 and go all the way up to 256? This is HD era, nothing comes in small size.
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Hi,
Also the "16GB" is actually only 9.15GB on my phone.
The system eats a fair portion of it.
Before 4.2.2 could you move to sd without rooting then? And will it really kill memory card If i rooted and use folder mount
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If you can't install apps on sdcard
How much space is available for applications in phone?
I'm using gs2 now, and it only has 2gmail for appear from internal memory.
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Youre looking at 9Gb for 16
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So what to do now? :-/ I bought the "16" GB phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
Still taking any and all suggestions...
knowledgeworker said:
So what to do now? :-/ I bought the phone being a former Apple user with they expectation of "hey cool, I got an 32 SD card lying around, no problem", when now I end up in a situation where I am expected to do exactly what?? Uninstall all my apps and never download any music?
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That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
knowledgeworker said:
Thanks, yeah you are right. Not sure though if some apps will be smart enough to route downloaded music to my SD card??
While we're at it: My problem is basically the "cloudsync" and more so the "DocumentSync" folder, the latter is > 6 GB large! Anyone knows what that is?
I want to reduce this size, my phone is brand-new!
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Cloudsync syncs your pics etc with Dropbox or its samsung account
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Thanks, indeed. I deactivated all that cloud-syncing nonsense, which solved my problem for now. Now I have a few weeks or months until I have to think again what to do. :-/
Is "Swyped from another galaxy" that a joke on the Samsung Galaxy keyboard system? lol
You're probably looking at 24gb on the 32gb version so a bunch more memory.
Most people will in fact be fine with 9gb though, power users who download a lot of really inefficient apps that cache a lot of things and require a lot of storage should get the 32gb version. I personally will be fine with the 16gb version.
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yeah i am also waiting for the 32GB version because of the same reason.
my htc one s 16gb has 2gb dedicated to apps. for me plenty atm. that's independent of the 9.93 internal sdcard, don't know if s4 is same. however, as mentioned, 16gb phones are too small now days and i won't pay for the s4 till it gets 32gb on att and black--
also don't think i can post links to other forums per xda. but if you google "att 32gb s4", there is a link to an att forum specifically for the 32gb release and an active att moderator--just fyi
Mithrandir007 said:
That's the reason I'm waiting for the 32GB version.
I did the same with the Galaxy S III though I can't understand why they delay the release of the 32GB that much.. I'm pretty sure a lot of people are waiting for that one, right?
And btw, you can put your music on the µSD card, it's just the installed apps that are a problem.
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Yea, im waiting 32 gb version. :laugh:
16 gb (9.xgb or 8.8gb) is simply ridiculous
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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Really? cant u save on the sd card by defalut ????
First of all.. If u want to store ur camera photos on sd card use camera zoom fx.. It's a very good camera app and there u can choose where to store the photos
The second.. U have 8,8 gb on stock firmware if u install a custom rom in a few weeks it will be more free space because of some bloatware installed on the stock and files we dont need i think.. Let the dev's do there great job
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knowledgeworker said:
You may be right. I got 2.1 GB of apps for 151 apps, which averages out at 14 MB per app, while I had the feeling that most of my apps are less than 8 MB, oh well. -.-
I won't download any more apps though, but I am sure photographs and stuff will quickly snatch up the remaining 5 GB of space that I freed now...
Will try to find a setting to put my photos on the SD card by default. Any tips (or links to a thread / tutorial about that) are appreciated.
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For photos there's a setting in the camera app which let's you select which storage to use. If it's not there use a file explorer to copy your photos across to your sd card.
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