Is It safe to disable thermal throttling? - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Okay so I am aware that it is a method to get rid of lag, but it is also a safety feature to prevent the phone from overheating. Does anybody have experience with disabling it?
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vPro97 said:
Okay so I am aware that it is a method to get rid of lag, but it is also a safety feature to prevent the phone from overheating. Does anybody have experience with disabling it?
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First try to find out what is PVS binning of your G2. I have 3 and when I tried to disable thermal throttling my G2 couldn't boot, rebooted before sim pin input and stuck in bootloop. I could only enable throttling back when freezed thing in freeger. So, YMMV of course, just be warned

Billy Madison said:
First try to find out what is PVS binning of your G2. I have 3 and when I tried to disable thermal throttling my G2 couldn't boot, rebooted before sim pin input and stuck in bootloop. I could only enable throttling back when freezed thing in freeger. So, YMMV of course, just be warned
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Mine is PVS 2 - any ideas?

Mine is Bin 4.. No issues at all disabling thermal throttling.. Supposedly Thu higher your bin number is, the better your chip is..
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Yes since it needs less voltage to achieve same clock speed as opposed to lower bins.
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So can I disable it safely ?
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Nexus 7 under clocking itself

My nexus 7 keeps under clicking itself to 1.5GHz from anything.
I have stock rooted with Trinity kernel 4.2 using tkt to over clock anyone have any tips
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maxjivi05 said:
My nexus 7 keeps under clicking itself to 1.5GHz from anything.
I have stock rooted with Trinity kernel 4.2 using tkt to over clock anyone have any tips
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It's called 'saving power'.
As long as it doesn't lag and clocks itself up to maximum when required, there's nothing to worry about.
Or you can get some CPU clock app and set it on maximum performance. But don't be surprised if you can boil eggs on it then and the battery dies in 2 hrs :good:
issak42 said:
It's called 'saving power'.
As long as it doesn't lag and clocks itself up to maximum when required, there's nothing to worry about.
Or you can get some CPU clock app and set it on maximum performance. But don't be surprised if you can boil eggs on it then and the battery dies in 2 hrs :good:
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I ran my N7 at 1.7 (using Trinity) without any heating problems. Battery life was acceptable.
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Found out it was power Hal script I ran fixed now!
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NVM removed it now it Underclocks to normal 1.3 GHz from any Freq!!! Why....
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maxjivi05 said:
Found out it was power Hal script I ran fixed now!
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NVM removed it now it Underclocks to normal 1.3 GHz from any Freq!!! Why....
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clear the data for tkt and reboot. if you are using tkt, you dont need a powerhal script, since tkt runs it automatically after opening it.
Does Tegra 3 really need overclocked? Having used Tegra 2 I can say that could definitely use a little bump but so far T3 is keeping up with me and I can see a big difference between T2 and T3. Makes me wonder what T4 Wayne has in store.
edge929 said:
Does Tegra 3 really need overclocked? Having used Tegra 2 I can say that could definitely use a little bump but so far T3 is keeping up with me and I can see a big difference between T2 and T3. Makes me wonder what T4 Wayne has in store.
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does it need it.. probably not. do we want to overclock anyways.. yes! btw, its underclocked by default(its rated to 1.5ghz). i use it at 1150mhz as a daily btw.

Nexus 4 rebooting constantly...

Just received Nexus 4 from US friends to here in India. I am getting constant reboots. They are very very frequent. Like once in every 10 minutes. Generally occurring when I make calls and into it 10 seconds. Seems like its hot reboot.
I received it in Android 4.2, which I immediately updated to 4.2.1, so I have no experience if it had the issue in 4.2.
I tried the following:
1) Factory Reset
2) Putting it back to Android 4.2
3) The latest nightly build of CM 10.1
The issue existed everywhere. I also have logcat constantly recorded before the reboots. Here is one of the instants:
http://pastebin.com/4JPW20xu
Any suggestions or advice? As of now I am planning to send it back to US for getting it replaced. But I want to try every possible solution in case it is a software issue..
Thanks in advance
Flash a custom kernel such as Franco. Kernel is what throttles your phone in temperatures etc.
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Lemme try that, though CM 10.1 build kernel had the same issues.
Tried franco kernel. Still the same issue is there.
CPU Spy is not showing more times at higher frequency. Is temperature throttle possible?
zephiK said:
Flash a custom kernel such as Franco. Kernel is what throttles your phone in temperatures etc.
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I doubt these are thermal reboots.. It is probably something wrong internally that is causing it. Bad eMMC maybe?
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joshnichols189 said:
I doubt these are thermal reboots.. It is probably something wrong internally that is causing it. Bad eMMC maybe?
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So good thing will be to get it replaced I guess..
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GT N7000 -XXLT5 Stock- Looks good

Hi All,
Want to share with you, experimented the XXLT5 on GTN7000. Superb ROM....so far no issues....you name it, it works fine. Note the downloaded file is above 1GB...seems this has all the fixes required. You can root it as well....if any issues found on this stock rom do let me know....will be interested to catch the bug.
Link for download...http://www.hotfile.com/dl/213299077/83496c8/N7000XXLT5_N7000OXXLT2_XEH.zip.html
Link for root : http://d-h.st/GiO
Installation...as usual....Odin...so have a latest pack..open, select the PDA and good to go.
the hotspot works?
aftabbabar said:
the hotspot works?
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Yes...works fine.
I'm running N7000XXLT4 as my build -- is this simply an improved update that just hasn't hit my German unit yet?
And what's better in this LT5 from LT5 posted on may 7th? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267748 Why we need another thread?
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Murshad007 said:
I upgraded ota from Gb to Ics. And i do a factory reset before. Then on ics i didnd factory due to brick bug. And ota update to JB UAE version. My cpu is always 15-35 % on idle and above 60% with any applictation like Google+ or Hangout..
I did wipe cache and factory reset in recovery.
Now i flashed LT5 And wipe and factory before and after. But still the same?
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Do you have a cracked screen? My CPU idled quite high when my screen was cracked.... Did you also experience the above problems with CyanogenMod?
Screen not cracked, outer body have some cracks. Phone is running smooth in gb and Ics
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hotweiss said:
Do you have a cracked screen? My CPU idled quite high when my screen was cracked.... Did you also experience the above problems with CyanogenMod?
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Cm10.1 nighties 29 06 2013 same issue.. Although phone not hanged up.. But CPU usage around 35-65% without any heavy usage
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Murshad007 said:
Cm10.1 nighties 29 06 2013 same issue.. Although phone not hanged up.. But CPU usage around 35-65% without any heavy usage
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Something must be wrong with the phone if you have such a high CPU usage after a fresh install. Send it in for servicing.
hotweiss said:
Something must be wrong with the phone if you have such a high CPU usage after a fresh install. Send it in for servicing.
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first, whats your upgrade procedure, try without restoring stuff and let os settle in. restoring app+data usually causes this with me.
Also what app do you use for measuring cpu usage. That may be off for some reason. Also note cpu utilization v. s. governor. Example on demand scales up frequency when e. g. uses 80%, so it will seem high, but in regard to frequency it is not. Due to battery savings lower frequencies are used, until 80% frequency is reached before going to a higher frequency, thus for same task higher utilization of that frequency it may not be a bad indication is what I am saying.
Now a rom usually needs some time to synch, perform breakin tasks, scan all media etc, try to see through settings, development options then cpu utilization what is utilizing cpu. Maybe app has gone bad, rogue, or maybe its expected.
M using CPU Z, thanx for utilization info
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Murshad007 said:
M using CPU Z, thanx for utilization info
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your welcome, you can check also cooltool, that has a nice overlay you can position anywhere. You can configure and show e.g. frequency, cpu utilization, temp(battery I think), pretty fun.
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Gs4 hot?

I just got a gs4 and am coming from the gs3. Does this phone run hot normally? Seemed warm on stock and hotter once I tried to install the freegs4 ROM. Even shut down twice.
Edit: flashed a different ROM and kernel and am all good.
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Yeah I noticed when flashing certain Roms and setting it up, it gets very hot that it shuts itself off.
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Always a kernel man not the rom
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bonebeatz1234 said:
Always a kernel man not the rom
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Not true on my part. I've flashed stock deodexed MF9 rom with Stock MF9, Agats, and Ktoonz kernel. All resulted in the phone heating up and shutting down on its own.
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daniel4653 said:
Not true on my part. I've flashed stock deodexed MF9 rom with Stock MF9, Agats, and Ktoonz kernel. All resulted in the phone heating up and shutting down on its own.
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You might want to take it to sprint in that case, only time it gets semi hot is when im using wifi hotspot and making a call at same time on my part
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So I have tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels and the heat issue keeps happening. Right now I was using the latest Venum ROM and the ktoonz kernel and the phone shut off due to the heat. Stupid phone, I just got it on Sunday. Never had this issue on my epic or e4gt or gs3.
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dante32278 said:
So I have tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels and the heat issue keeps happening. Right now I was using the latest Venum ROM and the ktoonz kernel and the phone shut off due to the heat. Stupid phone, I just got it on Sunday. Never had this issue on my epic or e4gt or gs3.
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are you overclocking or undervolting on ktoonz? when does it got hot? whats running in the background?
xxaddictedxx said:
are you overclocking or undervolting on ktoonz? when does it got hot? whats running in the background?
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The only kernel adjustments were to the governor and scheduler (using smartass and sio, no alterations to either). I just tried using the rescan media disabler apk to see if maybe my media was causing the phone to run hot. It seemed to be the only thing going in the background.
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dante32278 said:
The only kernel adjustments were to the governor and scheduler (using smartass and sio, no alterations to either). I just tried using the rescan media disabler apk to see if maybe my media was causing the phone to run hot. It seemed to be the only thing going in the background.
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is it heating up during usage,charging,sitting there......? have you actually physically looked at the battery to make sure its not cracked or swollen?
xxaddictedxx said:
is it heating up during usage,charging,sitting there......? have you actually physically looked at the battery to make sure its not cracked or swollen?
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Usually the heat starts when I am using the phone, which is usually browsing the internet or reading up on sports news. Screen off or charging I have been OK so far. As far as the battery, it appears to be in good physical condition. I also have 2 OEM batteries by Anker that experience the same issue. So far so good, though - been using the phone moderately since the last shut down earlier today and it seems ok at this moment.
dante32278 said:
Usually the heat starts when I am using the phone, which is usually browsing the internet or reading up on sports news. Screen off or charging I have been OK so far. As far as the battery, it appears to be in good physical condition. I also have 2 OEM batteries by Anker that experience the same issue. So far so good, though - been using the phone moderately since the last shut down earlier today and it seems ok at this moment.
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if it heats up really bad again try underclocking a step and see if that helps.....phone might be getting hot because your chip is poorly coated and the higher frequiencies are heating it up enough to shut the device down. you may have to underclock by one or 2 steps to ensure its not a consistent issue.....worth a shot anyways. unless you do high graphic gaming and multitask with 8 apps at once your really dont need the higher clock speeds anyways.
xxaddictedxx said:
if it heats up really bad again try underclocking a step and see if that helps.....phone might be getting hot because your chip is poorly coated and the higher frequiencies are heating it up enough to shut the device down. you may have to underclock by one or 2 steps to ensure its not a consistent issue.....worth a shot anyways. unless you do high graphic gaming and multitask with 8 apps at once your really dont need the higher clock speeds anyways.
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Good idea, hopefully I won't need to! Appreciate the feedback.
If you just got this phone Friday then I would return to stock, run triangle away and exchange it. What you describe isn't normal, why take a chance and get stuck with a bad phone when you are within the exchange window.
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Try the stock kernel and rom and if it still get hot take it back. Try stock kernel it works man the others just cause me trouble.
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Thanks all. I loaded up the latest Sac ROM and ktoonz kernwl, but disabled media scanner. No more hot issues. I guess it running like crazy in the background caused the battery to commit suicide.
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Seriously guys, your S4 doesn't heat up at all???
I'm back to 100% stock everything (kernel, rom) and running this for a couple weeks. I've completed several factory resets and whatnot as well through those weeks. I know my install was clean as could be.
Now, my phone gets hot at seemingly random times. sometimes playing games, for sure while navigating with GPS and sometimes when its just sitting there. I monitor things with Better Battery Stats and keep an eye on the CPU Spy. I'm achieving deep sleep most often. Some of this is caused by the god awful Sprint service here and the constant search for signal, but I was hoping that this wouldn't get as hot as the S3.
so, should I seek a refurb from Sprint? I have the insurance. I am just afraid that a refurb would do me no better.
My biggest gripes are heating up occasionally, WiFi disconnect issues. I hope 4.3 can help some of these.

[Q] Does overheating kill my S4 (I9500)

Does the overheating eventually kill my S4? I have CM 11 (Android 4.4.2) and the problem still persist. I can't update via OTA since its rooted. I also don't want to lose any apps because they are large apps and dont want to bother to download them again. So will it actually gonna kill my S4 someday?
FreezIn said:
Does the overheating eventually kill my S4? I have CM 11 (Android 4.4.2) and the problem still persist. I can't update via OTA since its rooted. I also don't want to lose any apps because they are large apps and dont want to bother to download them again. So will it actually gonna kill my S4 someday?
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I can't catch what's your problem...
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Or actually imma change the question. Does android 4.4.2 kitkat fix overheating issues? Will it actually gonna break my device soon?
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FreezIn said:
Or actually imma change the question. Does android 4.4.2 kitkat fix overheating issues? Will it actually gonna break my device soon?
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The Android 4.4.2 for S4 is leaked version. It is not published Officially by samsung and it may has many bugs. (eg. overheating, ...)
Overheating can eventually cause some serious problems. The board is able to adjust slightly with flexing caused by heat, but eventually soldered connections will give in and break if your device is getting extremely hot. When or what is causing it to get so hot?
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martikp said:
The Android 4.4.2 for S4 is leaked version. It is not published Officially by samsung and it may has many bugs. (eg. overheating, ...)
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megamanDJ said:
Overheating can eventually cause some serious problems. The board is able to adjust slightly with flexing caused by heat, but eventually soldered connections will give in and break if your device is getting extremely hot. When or what is causing it to get so hot?
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@martikp When smsung officially publish it, do i have to reinstall CM so it fixes the overheating issue?
 @megamanDJ It overheats when browsing, playing games. Does this eventually break the LCD screen ( not the gorilla glass 3 ) ?
FreezIn said:
@martikp When smsung officially publish it, do i have to reinstall CM so it fixes the overheating issue?
@megamanDJ It overheats when browsing, playing games. Does this eventually break the LCD screen ( not the gorilla glass 3 ) ?
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No it won't break the HD Super Amoled screen.
Overheating will eventually cause logic board failures and shorten the batteries' life span
So if my phone is a little hot can this still happen?
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FreezIn said:
So if my phone is a little hot can this still happen?
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Not a little bit hot but perheps if it reaches 85 degrees+ all the time. But even in doing so it will still (from my experience) last longer that you'd ever keep this phone for.
Oh the is there any apps out there that tells you the temp if my phone. Something that is easy to set up?
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Oh the is there any apps out there that tells you the temp if my phone. Something that is easy to set up?
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They have quite a few apps out there for monitoring temps and whatnot. I personally use Android Tuner for everything I monitor. As a huge plus, this app is one of the most versatile apps (especially if rooted) I've come across and have had for a long time. Its good for adjusting or tuning down anything that may cause overheating as well as view summaries of the culprits
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MrAndroid12 said:
Not a little bit hot but perheps if it reaches 85 degrees+ all the time. But even in doing so it will still (from my experience) last longer that you'd ever keep this phone for.
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I agree. You don't hear too often about someone's phone overheating to the point of failure. I've seen one phone that would get so hot you almost couldn't hold it in your hand, and had a habit of doing that but was ultimately broken months later by a shopping cart.:silly:
Still a decent monitoring app (among dozens on the market) can help you monitor temps and pinpoint when, where, and what is causing problems.
Thank you the app works. Is there anyway to drop the temperature as low as you can? Like 26 C? I disabled my Google account stuff and sync and removed the sim card because I use this phone as a gaming device. When I play a few rounds of subway surfers it already gets to medium warm and for 3D games it gets warmer more faster.
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Is 51 C - 56 C harm the device?
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FreezIn said:
Is 51 C - 56 C harm the device?
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I would say you are safe in that temp range. Its when you get 80 C and above that that's causing damage. Also are these temps from the battery or the CPU? The CPU can and will get to 60 C temps at times which is normal.
CPU I played the game six guns for almost an hour and it didn't go over 65 C and I think I totally screwed up my ext SDcard
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FreezIn said:
Thank you the app works. Is there anyway to drop the temperature as low as you can? Like 26 C? I disabled my Google account stuff and sync and removed the sim card because I use this phone as a gaming device. When I play a few rounds of subway surfers it already gets to medium warm and for 3D games it gets warmer more faster.
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If you are having heating problems while playing 3D games alone then you might want to try experimenting with using different GPU settings. You can try tuning down the frequency. It may or may not help with temp being its only a frequency setting. Try also using the app "Greenify" to put as many of the remaining apps that you don't absolutely need running into hibernation. Greenify is a lot more efficient when it comes to keeping apps from using resources.
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How to adjust the GPU frequency settings? Does this affect the quality of the game after its adjusted? But I do not think adjusting the GPU frequency settings will work. The overheating problem is caused by the CPU. May try Greenify app.
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FreezIn said:
How to adjust the GPU frequency settings? Does this affect the quality of the game after its adjusted? But I do not think adjusting the GPU frequency settings will work. The overheating problem is caused by the CPU. May try Greenify app.
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If your GPU is capable of adjusting the frequency then it will show you in the Android Tuner app next to the CPU settings, but you're right it wont help with overheating. You can set your CPU governor to "powersaver" and underclock by sliding the max frequency setting down one step at a time until you notice a difference in temp. Greenify is a huge help mainly with battery saving which in turn stops a lot of unnecessary CPU draw.
Does under clocking CPU will cause large 3S games crash? Hope it doesnt
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Bad idea. When I change it to power save it makes every sluggish and laggy even I turn one step down the CPU thing its sluggish
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