Planning to get a note 3 Exynos next week, so got a few questions -
1 - What color should I get? Black or White, the back feel of leather in black variant doesn't matters as I am going to be using a sview cover, most people seem to opt for black due to the back feel of black, any other reasons to opt for black other than it? I don't like the design of bezels on the black variant whereas the diamond design on white looks pretty good, so suggest me something please.
NOTE : This will be my first Samsung, so I'd be glad if you'd guide me through an easy way.
2 - How to root without tripping knox?
3 - I always had Sony phones and to Flash Firmwares and Unlock Bootloader and Flash Custom Kernels there was an application for windows named Flashtool which was pretty easy to use do we have any such application or tools for Note 3?
4 - What is the process to Flash Firmware, Unlock Bootloader and Flashing Kernel
Help will be highly appreciated, thank you!
I got the black one with black s - view cover, and I gotta say that I love it.
I don't think that the exynos version can be rooted without tripping Knox.
You can use Odin for flashing stock firmware, modems and custom recoveries, but most, if not all custom ROMs/kernels will be flashed through recovery.
Samsung bootloader are not locked unless you get the contract version.
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I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
if there isn't support for loading a third party boot loader without tripping knox, what's the best way to back up my system image?
how can I go about restoring it if i seriously mess something up?
can i do a full wipe and restore without a third party boot loader?
can i do a factory restore using external means like odin without tripping knox / invalidating my warranty?
also, does anybody happen to know why samsung abandoned the *REALLY* nice design arrangement of the menu keys being a row of capacitive touch buttons across the bottom of the phone as seen on the galaxy s, s2, original note, and original samsung galaxy tab? - i've had several of these devices (i'm currently upgrading from an original note to a note 3), and I loved the row of capacitive touch keys vs the (pretty dumb imho) physical menu key (that can be easily broken or stuck). for a key you press a billion times a day over 2+ years it occurs to me that you should have something that has minimal mechanical movement to preserve it's functionality. </rant> - but seriously, why?
I know these all sound like n00b questions, but knox threw a wrench into my understanding of how to do this right. on my note i717 i can easily flash stock and twrp via odin, use twrp to back up the system (if and whenever i'd like), and install any compatible rom i please without additional implications... I really wish that the note 3 were that flexible. (and that there were more devs working on software for note 3... I'd really like to see ubuntu touch dual booting on a phone this awesome.).
So, before the phone arrives, you have plenty of time to educate yourself. There are thousands of threads regarding this topic.
Google and XDA are your friends.
Sent from my SM-N9005
first of all do not do any ota updates if you do like i did you can not root without tripping knox..if your lucky and your note comes with an early firmware you have a chance of rooting and not tripping knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487916
it all depends on what bootloader you have.but as far as i understand it you can not use twrp or cwm without tripping knox
cpgeek said:
I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
if there isn't support for loading a third party boot loader without tripping knox, what's the best way to back up my system image?
how can I go about restoring it if i seriously mess something up?
can i do a full wipe and restore without a third party boot loader?
can i do a factory restore using external means like odin without tripping knox / invalidating my warranty?
also, does anybody happen to know why samsung abandoned the *REALLY* nice design arrangement of the menu keys being a row of capacitive touch buttons across the bottom of the phone as seen on the galaxy s, s2, original note, and original samsung galaxy tab? - i've had several of these devices (i'm currently upgrading from an original note to a note 3), and I loved the row of capacitive touch keys vs the (pretty dumb imho) physical menu key (that can be easily broken or stuck). for a key you press a billion times a day over 2+ years it occurs to me that you should have something that has minimal mechanical movement to preserve it's functionality. </rant> - but seriously, why?
I know these all sound like n00b questions, but knox threw a wrench into my understanding of how to do this right. on my note i717 i can easily flash stock and twrp via odin, use twrp to back up the system (if and whenever i'd like), and install any compatible rom i please without additional implications... I really wish that the note 3 were that flexible. (and that there were more devs working on software for note 3... I'd really like to see ubuntu touch dual booting on a phone this awesome.).
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I bought my device used and was informed that it has the latest ota kitkat updates per about 2 weeks ago. is root not a possibility in this case at all?
you can root if it's still 4.3 but you can not do it without tripping knox...which is the same possition i'm in..my advice is hold off doing any updates or trying to root for a few weeks ...maybe somebody will find a new exploit
cpgeek said:
I bought my device used and was informed that it has the latest ota kitkat updates per about 2 weeks ago. is root not a possibility in this case at all?
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decardpain said:
you can root if it's still 4.3 but you can not do it without tripping knox...which is the same possition i'm in..my advice is hold off doing any updates or trying to root for a few weeks ...maybe somebody will find a new exploit
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is there anything that I can't do if i trigger knox (besides sending my phone to samsung's warranty service). does selinux still work properly if knox is triggered? what's the feature actually FOR (besides voiding warranty)?
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I just ordered my note3 sm-n9005 on sunday (should arrive thursday). and I was wondering what the current best method to root it without invalidating warranty / tripping knox. and installing xposed?
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I might come a little late - but you seem to be on AT&T - are you certain that N9005 is what you wanted? My feeling was that the T-Mobile version was the only other one (than AT&Ts own, which has locked bootloader, while TMo does not) that could do LTE on AT&T, but I might be wrong
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
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I might come a little late - but you seem to be on AT&T - are you certain that N9005 is what you wanted? My feeling was that the T-Mobile version was the only other one (than AT&Ts own, which has locked bootloader, while TMo does not) that could do LTE on AT&T, but I might be wrong
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
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yes, i'm on at&t and it's the sm-n9005 that should arrive at my door tomorrow. the n9005 literature i've read says it is lte enabled, and from what i understand is exactly the same hardware that at&t's own variant uses chip for chip. why would there be a problem... and even if it does come down to it, can't i just flash the at&t modem and be done with it?
You cannot Flash t-mobile modem on a att n9005 and vice versa. Samsung now =dictator, your freedom is slowly becoming....
cpgeek said:
yes, i'm on at&t and it's the sm-n9005 that should arrive at my door tomorrow. the n9005 literature i've read says it is lte enabled, and from what i understand is exactly the same hardware that at&t's own variant uses chip for chip. why would there be a problem... and even if it does come down to it, can't i just flash the at&t modem and be done with it?
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You will be very surprised
First things on the N9005 - disable security updates and reject any OTA updates, then check your existing firmware. Read in this forum and specifically in the AT&T forum if you can make things work, if you want to root read about knox and warranty.
I have a verizon Galaxy s5 rooted running Eclipse rom. I'm pretty happy with my setup except for the locked bootloader. I need advice on 2 things, so please chime in. 1: What is the best phone on the verizon network? I was thinking nexus 6 but as I am somewhat new to rooting, modifying and themeing, I look to you for advice. I am looking for something with an unlocked bootloader and the screen size(or bigger) like the s5. Of course I want root. Any advice is appreciated. 2: should I take the ota? Now I'm on ni2 4.4.4. I want to still have root and since tw roms are all we can use, I would like to continue with Eclipse. Thank you in advance.
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I have a verizon Galaxy s5 rooted running Eclipse rom. I'm pretty happy with my setup except for the locked bootloader. I need advice on 2 things, so please chime in. 1: What is the best phone on the verizon network? I was thinking nexus 6 but as I am somewhat new to rooting, modifying and themeing, I look to you for advice. I am looking for something with an unlocked bootloader and the screen size(or bigger) like the s5. Of course I want root. Any advice is appreciated. 2: should I take the ota? Now I'm on ni2 4.4.4. I want to still have root and since tw roms are all we can use, I would like to continue with Eclipse. Thank you in advance.
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1. Personal preference really as far as phone goes. Not many options that I know of with a screen larger than S5 that has unlocked bootloader. IIRC, the HTC One M7 and M8 have unlocked Bootloaders, screen size is comparable, but weight and holding style will be different.
2. Most will likely advise you to flash up to NK2, flash the older kernel ( I think either NCG or NE9 now, not sure 100%. Dig a little) root it, and then re-flash back to NK2.
Hope this helps you out some.
Hey guys!
Recently came home from Japan and since I bought a Galaxy S5 there with the operator AU, supposedly a SM-G900J but having the model name SCL23 there, and would like to use it here in Sweden.
I started off with downloading Odin and flashing the oldest firmware I could find for the phone at Sammobile. I then used this guide here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f777/samsung-galaxy-s5-scl23-unlock-guide-1886172/ and actually managed to unlock my phone. Seems to be working fine making calls and using LTE. Although from that I can digest the hack seem to be tricking the phone that it is roaming. Since I could not enter the Network menu at all with my Swedish SIM inserted it is quite useful anyway.
It kinda sucks being stuck at the oldest firmware though, and I believe flashing to original operator Lollipop 5.0 will remove the unlock hack. Will try in a little bit.
Anyway, I don't care about warranty or anthing so my phone can become Knox 0x1 for all I care. So, can I root it with towelroot and try to flash any custom ROM on it? Or will this brick the phone since it is some kind of special Japanese version? And will a custom ROM be operator unlocked?
Thanks!
Well, I managed to fix everything on my own and everything seems to work excellent with Lollipop OS, operator applications cleaned and operator lock unlocked.
http://choimobile.vn/threads/rom-bi...pop-galaxy-s5-s5-lte-a-note-3-j-sc-02f.49119/
Use this guide and flash the BNG3-firmware and TWRP recovery with Odin. Then install the custom ROM in recovery.
I might add that I did first use this unlock guide in the original ROM and also rooted with SuperSU before flashing the custom ROM. I'm not sure these two steps were necessary though.
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f777/samsung-galaxy-s5-scl23-unlock-guide-1886172/
Hi! I'm currently waiting for my scl23 to arrive and planning on unlocking and upgrading to lollipop. I came across this post and want to thank you. I will be trying to do the procedures here once i get the phone. I'm hoping you camn help me if ever a problem arises.
note that u can't use finger scan and dock-charging with this rom, though
I used the stock rom for unlocking and root following instructions from that vietnamese link. Then just TiBU to remove the bloatware. Everything works okay for now. Thanks!
Samsung Galaxy S5 SC-L23 screen don't want to turn on.
Hello Guys, I'm from Indonesia
i have a troubleshoot on my phone
My Galaxy S5 SC-L23 screen has turn off since i upgrade it to Android 6.0, turn to dark black, and when i try to turn on the phone, its on, but the screen don't want turn on, and any gesture when i swipe my finger to the touch screen, it's has a sound like when you want to open your screen lock. Then, when i replace the screen to the pre-owned Samsung Galaxy S5 Global version, it's turn on, but only until the booting, and then the blue led turn on, and reboot later. The battery when i change is also cant be turn on. What happen to my phone? Anyone can please give me some reply and i will appreciate it.
Thankyou Guys!!!
So Ive had this Verizon Note 3 since day one. Finally unlocked my bootloader... What are the rules on what I can and can't do now. Can I install any Android rom? Can I only install note 3 roms from any carrier... Can I install only Verizon note 3 roms? Or is it a hybrid... I can install any rom if I replace the firmware and or modem.
I really want something on 7.1 but I'd rather take 6 and have something custom... Fast and responsive.
Thanks community.
You are in luck. :crying:
There's hardly anything to choose from; maybe 3 or 4 ROMs and about the same number of kernels.
AFAIK, there are no Nougat ROMs and only one Marshmallow ROM (AryaMod6.6).
Normally, when a dev ships a "ROM", there are two important pieces: the /system image (what some folks call "the ROM"), and the boot image. The boot image is what some folks erroneously call "the kernel"; but it is really a combination of kernel + ramdisk. The ramdisk has all the scripts in it that the "init" process reads to start up all the low-level daemons and services... as well as the Android UI as well.
The kernel is very tightly tied to the specific hardware in a given handset - both the processor/gpu and all the sensors/leds/peripherals.
So that's the reason you can't just flash any old ROM. In the least bad case, your device wouldn't boot; in the worst bad case the kernel would boot up far enough go off in the weeds and possibly damage some of your hardware.
You might be tempted to think "we'll, what if I find a boot image for the "hltevzw" SM-N900V device... can I flash that after I have flashed 'any old Android ROM'? Won't that take care of things?"
Well, not really. The system library binaries in /system are possibly compiled with instruction-set optimumization tweaks that are only supported by specific CPU and GPU hardware chips. Moreover, other peripheral chips such as GPS have unique "downloadable" vendor firmware in the system image... so again, there's the issue of hardware dependencies of the /system image.
Beyond that, there's carrier-specific "setup and activation" software that differs between ROMs, so even using ROMs that are from a different carrier's version of the exact same handset hardware might not work fully - specifically in the telephony function areas. Everything else might work fine though. For instance if you wanted to use the device as a WiFi-only unit for kid's games etc.
Note BTW that the "International" Note 3 GSM phones are not the same hardware - they use an Exynos processor.
good luck in your quest
Thanks
That was very helpful... Looks like Araya is my best bet. I'll leave jasmine rom to try it.
I was hoping that I could get another note 3 rom on this forum and flash the CDMA modem for networking... But doesn't seem like that's an option.
If I'm still stuck to Verizon Note 3 rom... What is the purpose or benefit of unlocking the bootloader... Was that really just to avoid Odin so I can flash my couple rom choices easier?
I appreciate your time!
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That was very helpful... Looks like Araya is my best bet. I'll leave jasmine rom to try it.
I was hoping that I could get another note 3 rom on this forum and flash the CDMA modem for networking... But doesn't seem like that's an option.
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I might have very slightly overstated the case for pessimism. There is a "consolidated" Verizon Note 3 Forum which is meant for devs to provide development tools and even ROMs that could potentially be used on devices from more than one carrier. But the world being organized the way it is, that means that you are more likely to find multi-carrier GSM ROMs over there than multi-carrier ROMS which support GSM and oh by the way CDMA and LTE as well.
If you want to fool around over there, I recommend that you proceed with great caution to make sure that the ROMs you choose specifically target Qualcomm MSM8974AB Note 3 handsets, and you should read the developer notes very carefully to see whether you need to flash an "hltevzw" kernel separately. If the dev does not mention "supports hltevzw" or "supports N900V" (for example here) you might be taking chances with your hardware.
I suppose it is possible that the radios are 100% "software defined" in the sense of which bands they can support. Maybe you can get what you want by simply flashing the desired carrier's "modem" firmware, but I have never done that so I can't say for certain whether that works or you are risking a brick (or hardware damage) by doing that. I simply don't know (e.g.) if the chips and antennas in a T-mo version of the Note 3 are identical or different from a Verizon Note 3's hardware
cyberoptics said:
If I'm still stuck to Verizon Note 3 rom... What is the purpose or benefit of unlocking the bootloader... Was that really just to avoid Odin so I can flash my couple rom choices easier?
I appreciate your time!
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Well, for one - having a custom recovery allows you to make backups - even if you never change ROMs
People don't think of backups as being "sexy", but they allow you something which is really valuable: freedom to mess around and experiment with the knowledge that "if something goes wrong, I'll just restore the backup".
And with Odin, you only had the choice of Stock Roms. Now you have a few more.
cheers
Yes you can install Any rom for note3
Here is my experience with installing roms on note 3 after unlock bootloader
you should Flash twrp-2.8.7.0-hlte-4.4.img by ODIN for the hlte roms or twrp-2.8.7.0-hltevzw-4.4.img if you looking to flash verizon roms ,
im on Phronesis Rom N7 now and i tryed many roms
AryaMod N7 & S7 Edge
MagMa-NX from NXT TEAM
Resurrection Remix Nougat 7.1.1
CM 13 ROM 6.0.1 for Trader418
Purify CM13 6.0.1 ( the best CM13 till now )
and more ...
i have only one problem that i cant get LTE in mobile network always on H+
i tryed to add screenshot but i couldn't its my firist reply :laugh:
@ALPHA85
Pretty informative first post - thanks, and welcome aboard!
Are you on a Verizon SIM? If not, have you been flashing modems from other Note3 devices?
Just curious; I don't have much experience with radio issues or carrier activation issues. Trying to port a carrier-specific ROM elsewhere (esp starting from a VZW ROM) looks like a massive pile of interlocking software dependencies, though. My respect to anyone who can succeed at it.
Feel free to write a brief summary about what's broken in each - any of them have NFC working? I was on CM13 (trader418) for a long time and would have been happy to stay there were it not for all the GPS issues.
Thank you ,:angel:
i dont use Verizon SIM becouse im from egypt, i bought my verizon note 3 by wrong , when i bought it i saw N9005 under the battery and in the boot screen also inside the rom ,it was lollipop 5.0 ,but sinse i did factory rest i surprised it change to N900V even the imei changed , till now i cant understand how they flashed N9005 rom for N900V device with locked bootloader
i'm on OF1 bootloader unlocked and i flashed PL1 Modem i thought maybe it help me to get LTE but still the same H+
about NFC i really didn't try it at all , i always disable it by titanium pro
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when i bought it i saw N9005 under the battery and in the boot screen also inside the rom ,it was lollipop 5.0 ,but sinse i did factory rest i surprised it change to N900V even the imei changed , till now i cant understand how they flashed N9005 rom for N900V device with locked bootloader
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When you first got it, did it appear to have a Verizon ROM on it? (For instance, the Verizon splash screen?) Or some other carrier's logo?
Actually, that cleared something up for me. Well, except for the part about the IMEI changing
Apparently there were both LTE and GSM models of the "Note 3" that were sold in international markets. I understand the LTE version was originally sold in China, but the GSM model is more common?
The SM-N9005 is an LTE phone (I don't know about CDMA) with the Qualcomm MSM8974 processor
and the N9000 is the GSM model with an Exynos 5420 processor
So that probably explains the binary compatibility of the SM-N900V and the SM-N9005 - same processor, and both phones were designed for LTE service.
But your report should give @cyberoptics a little less pessimistic view of things; thank you for that.
But I wouldn't go so far as to say you can flash ANY Note 3 ROM. Even though both the Exynos and Qualcomm processors use ARM cores, they are fairly different - the Exynos has 8 cores, half of which are Cortex-A15, and the MSM8974 has only four cores which are Krait- something or other. I think they are not quite compatible. Note that in theory, ARM code that was compiled to earlier standards (e.g. thumb, armv5) would certainly work on both devices - but if they compiled ALL the code in ROM libraries that way they would be giving up a lot of performance on either device. So.... to the extent that they target processor specifics for either Cortex-A15 or Krait, they will be incompatible.
cheers.
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You are in luck. :crying:
There's hardly anything to choose from; maybe 3 or 4 ROMs and about the same number of kernels.
AFAIK, there are no Nougat ROMs and only one Marshmallow ROM (AryaMod6.6).
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bftb0 I just wanted to thank you once again for your consistently helpful, verbose posts about the N900V. I've been using CM13 thinking it was the best thing going, when, as nice as it was at the time, it doesn't hold water compared to AyraMod, which I switched to yesterday after reading this thread.
Now my GPS won't take me sailing past Easter Island when en route to a noon meeting downtown. Maybe Google Cardboard will even work, now that NFC appears to.
Thanks again, and please don't ever bore of being a great and helpful resource, we need you!
Hello, a few months ago the motherboard died and then I bought a new replacement on aliexpress, the new board has already been updated to the latest QI5 bootloader and now I can not unlock it.
Any suggestions?
The simple answer is no. There may be a way but as far as I am aware of not yet. Generally speaking , aboot is upwared compatible but not downward compatible. Since, there are not official updates for the ageing Note 4 were stuck with the 5DQ15 aboot. The sad part is that all the developers hard work on previous custom roms on marshmallow and kit kat will not be of any use. All there hard work and the donations have been cut away. How sad, Id be really pissed if I had developed a custom rom and Samsung and Sprint cut me off from my possible income. I am not a developer but I enjoy flashing different roms and also had to replace my Note 4 . I lost mine. Then discovered that I could not find one that was not on the 5Dq15 bootloader. Afterwards, I decided to take risks with my new note 4 and mod away. So far so good hotspot mod and many custom mods and ports. I had almost given up on finding a Note 4 on the latest update but I found one on Ebay for $80 Grade A. OMG. Im still waiting on it to arrive. Seems to good to be true so I am keeping it real and will try not to get to optimistic. Time will tell.
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Lollipop and kitkat roms most likely will not work, you will still be able to flash custom roms that are on marshmallow just make sure to keep 5DQ15 bootloader and modern.