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Hi everyone, Im really new in this stuff, Ive recently rooted my KF (6.3) just for try new thing, I aslo installed some google apps but the kindle app (reader) is driving me crazy, it's just a piece of *&#^ and I feel that the battery life is shorter than i remember so I was wonder what alternatives I have for the reader app or what is the best (safe) way to recovery my KF to an original stock rom (what i have). Ive seen a rooted 6.3 developed by paulobrien (check his/her post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916) and Id like you guys help me with this matter, Im what you geek call a NOOB, so please be kind with me...
Did you do a full backup in recovery before you loaded the new ROM?
If so just boot to recovery wipe everything and reload from your backup.
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No I didn't, I just rooted and left quite original, OMG What options I have? I only have few books and a pair of apps, Am I gonna lose them?
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Napanno said:
No I didn't, I just rooted and left quite original, OMG What options I have? I only have few books and a pair of apps, Am I gonna lose them?
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Apps and books can all be redownloaded you wont loose anything
Alright, to start off, I apologize if there is a thread already on this (I searched but couldn't find anything).
I am a complete noob at rooting and don't know much about it. I plan on rooting my Nexus 7 in order to get Stickmount for additional storage on my device. My worry isn't about that, after I root it, how easy will it be to update it when a update for the Nexus 7 is released? I heard of stuff like flashing a rom with a updated software or flashing a modified firmware. Will tutorials be available for this when the time comes?
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Alright, to start off, I apologize if there is a thread already on this (I searched but couldn't find anything).
I am a complete noob at rooting and don't know much about it. I plan on rooting my Nexus 7 in order to get Stickmount for additional storage on my device. My worry isn't about that, after I root it, how easy will it be to update it when a update for the Nexus 7 is released? I heard of stuff like flashing a rom with a updated software or flashing a modified firmware. Will tutorials be available for this when the time comes?
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After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
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After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
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i can confirm this works.
i tested out a few different scenarios last night.
booted up device, ran update, unlocked bootloader, put bad boot.img on
restored to factory, rooted, booted, used OTA Keeper, ran update, rebooted and root was gone. ran OTA Keeper to restore and BAM! root was back
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After you root, install OTA rootkeeper from the market. I assume it works with the Nexus 7, not sure why it wouldn't, but this keeps your device from losing root after an OTA. You can also install clockworkmod recovery and install any ROM you want which makes more sense considering this is a nexus device after all
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I just looked up that app, it seems it's already integrated into SuperSu (that's the one I'm planning on getting). I just want to know if it's easy or not to upgrade the device once it's rooted.
OTA rootkeeper is on super Su ???
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OTA rootkeeper is on super Su ???
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"The application doesn't support original Superuser and not SuperSU for a very simple reason. The same feature OTA protection feature is already present in SuperSU."
That's what it said on the app overview section.
SuperSU Premium has it and it worked for me on my T-Mobile G2x when I updated to new OTA. Don't know if free version has it
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I'm a noob to this type of stuff so if free SuperSU DOES have the OTA rootkeeper, does that mean I can update my device without any trouble?
If it doesn't, what methods can I take to update it without causing any damage?
Pretty sure its only in the paid version its called survival mode
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OP: You should calm down. I mean that in the nicest way possible. This is a Nexus device. You can unlock your device anytime you want. You can simple re-root if you happen to lose root, there well always be a method. If you like to be on stock, you can just flash the updated stock firmware. Chances are someone will pack a nice stock rooted firmware within a couple hours of it being released, possibly before you even get a notification that there is a new update.
Sorry if I came out as panicky, it's just that I never did this before so I don't know what's right from wrong. Well I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually, thanks for the help.
My 7 is asking if I want to update to 4.2. Of course I do since I am running 4.1.2 but I don't want to lose root. Will I be able to reroot with WugFresh? I had real problems rerooting after I installed 4.1.2.
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rsipson said:
My 7 is asking if I want to update to 4.2. Of course I do since I am running 4.1.2 but I don't want to lose root. Will I be able to reroot with WugFresh? I had real problems rerooting after I installed 4.1.2.
grab ota root keeper from play store. used it for the first time today. flawless.
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OTA Rootkeeper worked for me too.
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I wish my 7 would ask me to update :-\
Stick mount says I still have root but I can't see files on an otg usb like I could before.
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I have a ustom recovery so it's failing for me... whee is the file on the system so I can just flash in twrp?
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Stick mount says I still have root but I can't see files on an otg usb like I could before.
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Apparently stick mount is not working with 4.2.
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Root lost (allthough super user and stick mount still there)
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Apparently stick mount is not working with 4.2.
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My guess would be that parent lost root.
I was rooted myself, accepted the OTA (the one before today did NOT break root), and lost root.
First time I saw this? Luks manager, which I use to mount an encrypted filesystem complained not having root.
As I am rooted using Wugfresh' toolkit, I will wait until he has updated his toolkit and/or stated it will work with the new build (JOP40C).
Kind regards,
Roel
I'll post this here to save making a new topic. I updated to 4.2 ota and lost root. I'm still unlocked but don't have root access. Since I'm post update I can't install any root keepers. How to I get root again? And will I lose all my data and apps? Will I have to do a system reset? Thanks
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just lou said:
OTA Rootkeeper worked for me too.
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Did you happen to have supersu installed and did you temp unroot the device in the root keeper app prior to upgrade?
Thanks....
deanflood said:
I'll post this here to save making a new topic. I updated to 4.2 ota and lost root. I'm still unlocked but don't have root access. Since I'm post update I can't install any root keepers. How to I get root again? And will I lose all my data and apps? Will I have to do a system reset? Thanks
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On the update to 4.1.2 about 3 weeks ago, I forgot to use OTA Rootkeeper and lost root. I plugged it back into my PC and used WugFresh's Nexus Tool Kit program to re-root my N7. I did not lose any information of any kind.
Maybe I'm wrong, but only unlocking the bootloader completely wipes everything but rooting should not. :good:
Hi, I'm facing the same issue .... have you found any solution? I also checked the latest version of StickMount ...1.5.
R.
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Stick mount says I still have root but I can't see files on an otg usb like I could before.
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Just found on Google Play:
Automatically mount and dismount USB sticks on various devices like the Galaxy Nexus.
!!! CURRENTLY NOT WORKING ON ANDROID 4.2 !!!
1-starring the app because of that will certainly not help make it compatible. This is a complicated issue which requires some ugly hacks to fix - I'm trying to find the least ugly and most reliable way to work around the new security measures in 4.2 that ended up breaking StickMount. It will take some time (and updating my paid apps to 4.2 has priority, sorry)
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Hi, I'm facing the same issue .... have you found any solution? I also checked the latest version of StickMount ...1.5.
R.
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Dont want to open up a new thread so I'm gonna throw my question here
I've rooted and unlocked my N7 and I messed the crap out of it using custom roms/kernels/menus etc and I want to reset it and revert back to completely stock 4.2. Now of course, I will download the factory image of 4.2 and re-flash it via adb and all but my question is this:
1. Atm I have 4.2 installed but im on the stock vanilla boot loader (the one that came with 4.1) I havent updated it neither to the bootloader of 4.1.2 nor the 4.2 one. When I reflash my Nexi with the factory 4.2 image, it will flash the new bootloader naturaly but will I be able to unlock it and install a custom recovery without issues?
2. Is the factory 4.2 rootable?
Thanks in advance fellow forumites
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On the update to 4.1.2 about 3 weeks ago, I forgot to use OTA Rootkeeper and lost root. I plugged it back into my PC and used WugFresh's Nexus Tool Kit program to re-root my N7. I did not lose any information of any kind.
Maybe I'm wrong, but only unlocking the bootloader completely wipes everything but rooting should not. :good:
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You must unlock the bootloader before rooting.
Chocoburger said:
On the update to 4.1.2 about 3 weeks ago, I forgot to use OTA Rootkeeper and lost root. I plugged it back into my PC and used WugFresh's Nexus Tool Kit program to re-root my N7. I did not lose any information of any kind.
Maybe I'm wrong, but only unlocking the bootloader completely wipes everything but rooting should not. :good:
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Thx for the info. No more worry abt data loss.
So I'm kinda in between if I want to root my nexus 7. I have rooted a lot of phones before but that was all just to get stock android. Seen as how this is stock already I can't seem to find a good reason beside putting Ubuntu on my nexus. Can someone tell me there exprinces with having a rooted nexus 7 and what the advantages are besides root apps and the such.
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In all honesty I have had my nexus for a couple of months now and I find no need to root it. It gets updated with the latest firmware and I notice little to no glitches or mistakes with the stock build. If I were to root it them I'd only do it so I can over clock.
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I also think about rooting mine. My only reason is Adaway.
Heard about unrooting/unlocking in case of waranty. So whats holding me?
I'm just satisfied with my N7. I also own a TF-201. Stock it was horrible laggy. Tried some custom-roms and it felt like a new, faster device.
My stock/unrooted N7 is even better. Atm I don't really care about it...however, someday I'm gonna root it and try multiboot/ubuntu and so on.
So it's up to you. But rooting is always an advantage. Why should i have a device without all permissions?
I'm also a stock Android fan, but I just rooted my N7, mainly because I need titanium backup on all of my devices. And now the adaway is gone I still have my backup and really enjoyed this.
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The biggest reason to not root your device is that you'll be voiding your warrant.
And as ixemerix said above, "But rooting is always an advantage. Why should i have a device without all permissions?".
You should therefore consider the advantage of rooting against your warranty. If you ever need it repaired (and you're still able to flash the device), just "unroot" it, lock the bootloader to remove the "unlock"-icon (you'll get that icon when rooted).
Some advantages, in a break-down-module :
Better overall performance
Underclock/Overclock (I do overclocked mine but some might for games, I presume)
Greatly increase the battery life, especially standby time
Hacking and modding (such as filming in 720p, adding performance tweaks e.g. in initd and buildprop, themes etc.)
Root it because its a nexus device
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The biggest reason to not root your device is that you'll be voiding your warrant.
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You can always unroot and relock the bootloader.
marsyeti said:
I'm also a stock Android fan, but I just rooted my N7, mainly because I need titanium backup on all of my devices. And now the adaway is gone I still have my backup and really enjoyed this.
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You can still get adaway if you install fdroid. It's a repository for open-source apps. Fdroid will notify you when new versions of adaway are available, and you can use fdroid to install it, in a similar way to the play store.
I think ROOTING is always a good idea... it confers unfettered access to the O/S, and provides considerable benefits... such as, for example --
-- Disabling SCREEN DIMMER/PRISM (eradicates screen flicker).
-- Allows the running of the app LagFix (eradicates lag).
-- Allows the running of the app AdAway (eradicates unwanted advertisments).
You can also run many more diagnostic commands in Terminal Emulater, than otherwise... and several fixes also (either directly, or automated, using ScriptManager).
And finally, you can directly access /system with a ROOT capable file manager like X-Plore, and inspect all kinds of interesting stuff (...and maybe even modify some stuff... if you're feeling brave - it's not without risk!!!!).
All of which confers a fundamentally better understanding of what your Nexus 7 is up to!
If you want to understand Android, as well as to use it, to it's fullest potential - you need ROOT.
Personally, I couldn't envisage using any Android box, today, without ROOT.
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ON THE ADAWAY ISSUE...
AdAway and other Advert blocking apps were recently 'pulled' from Google Play Store as being in “Violation of section 4.4 of the Developer Distribution Agreement."... (a ridiculous decision, IMHO, but not entirely unexpected.).
See here for more details...
http://f-droid.org/forums/topic/adaway-and-other-ad-blocker-removed-from-google-play
http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/13/go...or-violating-developer-distribution-agreement
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But you can still install AdAway from the F-Droid repository, using the sideloaded app, available here http://f-droid.org... it provides a FULLY OPEN SOURCE alternative to PlayStore, in which you can install the latest version of AdaWay, and sundry other apps.
You will of course, need ROOT to run AdaWay.
...and runs great on my Nexus 7...
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Rgrds,
Ged.
I want 5cents everytime someone tell me rooting void warranty, ESPECIALLY on a Nexus device.
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And if I get a hardware-defect, unable to unroot? Will they still repair it under waranty?
I waited a few months before rooting my nexus 7, so I could first learn about android a bit. I already had experience in rooting other devices, and missing some nice rooting features on my tablet I decided to root it.
It's totally worth it, for example:
- Ad Blocker (ad block plus without root didn't do it for me),
- Titanium Backup (can't do without it anymore),
- Hiding the navigation bar + LMT launcher (I always hated the navigation bar; my main reason for rooting)
- Stickmount (best way to mount USB sticks or hard drives with an OTG cable)
- Custom Kernel (using Timur's USB host kernel)
TWRP recovery is worth it, because:
- Nandroid backup (easy restoring of backups)
- Easy installation of custom roms, although I'm using stock.
You can always go back to stock with locked bootloader, if necessary for warranty.
Root it! Loads of advantages and if you do it probably then it is completely safe.
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ucf15 said:
You can still get adaway if you install fdroid. It's a repository for open-source apps. Fdroid will notify you when new versions of adaway are available, and you can use fdroid to install it, in a similar way to the play store.
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Thanks so much for that suggestion about f droid. I don't know how I wasn't aware of that, but it's a nice find since ad blocking apps have been removed from the Play Store.
I always root everything i have...i suggest you do the same ....you have access to a lot of stuff...and the variety of roms and kernelsyou can flash
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Westervoort said:
I waited a few months before rooting my nexus 7, so I could first learn about android a bit. I already had experience in rooting other devices, and missing some nice rooting features on my tablet I decided to root it.
It's totally worth it, for example:
- Ad Blocker (ad block plus without root didn't do it for me),
- Titanium Backup (can't do without it anymore),
- Hiding the navigation bar + LMT launcher (I always hated the navigation bar; my main reason for rooting)
- Stickmount (best way to mount USB sticks or hard drives with an OTG cable)
- Custom Kernel (using Timur's USB host kernel)
TWRP recovery is worth it, because:
- Nandroid backup (easy restoring of backups)
- Easy installation of custom roms, although I'm using stock.
You can always go back to stock with locked bootloader, if necessary for warranty.
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Can you please add references how to root the device (Nexus 7)?
YoramZa said:
Can you please add references how to root the device (Nexus 7)?
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Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
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Pirateghost said:
Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
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I don't need hundred threads just one good thread. Probably for you it's easier to lecture than help.
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Too complicated for you to read the hundred threads already on this subject?
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Since English is not my mother tongue I can't handle hundred threads.
I will appreciate if you can recommend a good one.
I have read some but couldn't understand how to do it.
I have rooted 3 Samsung devices very easy (s1 s2 note2) but the nexus is different
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I'm also in the boat of having been unrooted for months.. BUT... I finally decided I needed some ad-blocking.
SOOOO... my one remaining question is how far the rooting path can I go and still be able to get OTA updates? (other than having root, I am happy enough with stock).
- can I get OTA if I just root ? (I think the answer is yes, but I may need to install rootkeeper before I OTA)
- can I get OTA if I also install custom recovery (I think the answer is no)
thanks!
If i root my nexus will my apps still work? Or does rooting disable them?
Can someone please explain whether rooting the HDX (mine is a 7" if that matter) has any impact on Amazon Prime such as can no longer borrow book and video?
Thanks for helping a newbie!
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No it doesn't. I have Prime and everything works fine and always has. Though unless you need root and plan on using it for stuff like Titanium Backup, no need to root.
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Can someone please explain whether rooting the HDX (mine is a 7" if that matter) has any impact on Amazon Prime such as can no longer borrow book and video?
Thanks for helping a newbie!
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No, but root is only for version # 13.3.1.0 for now. Rooting gives you higher permissions on the device and does not impact much more. Rooting and running as root is similar to running a Windows application as Administrator. In order to do special things to your device such as browsing the root folder, changing root files, running rom's and any app that needs root, needs to be granted 'root access' to the device. Now some root apps, conflict with with services such as Books and Prime video is a cat and mouse game ( some do and some don't ). The biggest issue is that you need to keep your device from updating. If Amazon releases an update and patches the hole that the root uses to be 'granted root access' you loose root permissions and ie. all root apps and mods. There are a few ways to block Amazon updates but they might impact some Amazon apps. If you want Google Play along with all the Amazon apps, progress is being made. But I suggest rooting and trying to use a way to block updates so if Amazon updates you won't miss the root window. Take it with a grain of salt an ask yourself what you want from the tablet.
Thanks for the prompt replies!
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Another new user who just got a hand on a HDX, though in my case its an 8.9. I've been wondering if I should root mine as well. I know that Google Apps don't require root, but I use Titanium Backup and a few other similar apps on my other tablet. I've read that its still dangerous to root at the moment however... Is it worth the risk?
I'm not sure why it would be dangerous unless you're installing shady apps by mistake but that's what SuperSU is for.
I thought I'd read that it was possible to brick the tablet while rooting elsewhere on the board, and sometimes get a bit paranoid about stuff like that. Thats all.
Ah yes, there's always that possibility which is why I said unless you need it, don't bother. Pretty sure you need root for Play store to work though I'm not 100% sure. The rest of the gapps work but ymmv.
Hmm... Is there another type of app like Titanium Backup that I'd be able to use without root?
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Hmm... Is there another type of app like Titanium Backup that I'd be able to use without root?
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Helium, previously known as Carbon.
I'm not keen on it personally (some backups fail to restore) but it does work without root.