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Why am I getting such low scores? Isn't the average between 30-35
Because you touch yourself at night.
Kiddin' aside, you probably have a lot of things running in the background... Do you have a lot of widgets up and running? Have you disabled the bloatwares yet? If not I'd suggest killing your widgets and disabling a few of those unwanted apps (Finance, Photobucket and etc) and re-run Linpak to see what you get.
I don't use any widgets. I have two picture frames on my mainscreen but that's it. I close the finance widget which always seems to run in the background even though I never use it. Getting around 15-17 now haha.
Nah bro... You can disable the unwanted bloatwares, here... read the thread below in the Dev. section:
Disabling stock apps on the G2 (and other NAND locked devices)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809231
Oh and have you downloaded VISIONary from the market yet? If not I'd highly suggest that you do, it'll temp-root your phone in 1 step! Here's the link on that:
r9: VISIONary - one click temproot for G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808514
Yeah I appreciate the help but I'm not looking to root right now. I did however score way better in linpack a couple weeks ago though =\
Nobody likes the YouDon'tNeedThat attiude, but I have to ask - why bother benchmarking again? The processor hasn't changed since the last few weeks - it's just a case of backgrounded software.
I ended up running linpack again because I was trying to test some overclocks using this method: watch?v=wToXNT3zIqY (youtube)
Followed the guide step by step. Then at the end I tested linpack and it was low for some reason. So I uninstalled everything.
What helps me or makes me feel better is, root with visionary and clean cache then restart phone.. seems smooth or normal use after even without root.. just makes me feel better because it takes up a lot of MB with those bloatwares.. I just do it once in awhile..
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I've been running AOKP on my GSII for months and love the ROM but I'm unimpressed with the Nook Color version. It has really bad lag in everything I do. I'm new to hacking the NC so I'm looking for the fastest ROM out there. Something doesn't completely pale in comparison to my GS2.
Does anyone have a ROM or ROM/Kernal combo recommendation? Is it worth V6 supercharging or running anything else to help speed it up?
Thanks much
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man i agree .every rom shakie .i kinda gave up on the nook for a little while.
i put cm9 simple on my FIRE now...what a difference. my kindle fire runs cm9 awsome...
Why won't me nook run like my FIRE? (NO LAG)
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Why won't me nook run like my FIRE? (NO LAG)
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Several reasons. The Fire is a much more powerful machine, dual core 1GZ out of the box, hardware video acceleration, etc.
The first step when experiencing sluggishness or lag with the nook color should be to set maximum cpu speed to not more than 1100MHx... several nook colors have been known to have issues with any clock speed above this... remember, while the cpu's they put in them are capable of running 1200MHz ideally... they rated them at 800MHz for a reason.
CPU manufacturer aren't going to deliberately under-rate their processors for no reason... and they aren't going to do it to sell them cheaper... they do it because there was something going on that they are not comfortable supplying warranty for underperforming processors.
I have also noticed that sluggishness in rather static operations (like book page turns) can be improved by raising the min to 600 from 300. At least that is how it seems. Does that make sense?
I've bumped the clock on mine to the 1000MHZ range but left the lower at 300MHZ. Does bumping the lower help with just with idle performance?
I guess my biggest problem is that I'm comparing the NC loosely to my SGS2. I know that's not fair and I need to lower my standards here. But is there a reasonable expectation that screen swipes are smooth and basic programs like Kindle, email, and web browsing will run without stuttering excessively?
Is there one ROM that stands heads and shoulders above the rest in the speed category?
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It's nothing fancy, but CM 7.2 Mirage has been very responsive and stable for me. I don't do any heavy graphics games or the like, but it works well for streaming Netflix. My reader and email apps are responsive. Mirage incorporates some of the optimizations from Supercharger V6 already, so there's not a lot of twiddling required. I run mine at 1.2 GHz with no issue, and have done so for months.
It's not life in the fast lane, but it's solid and makes the NC work well for the basics I bought it for.
+1 MiRaGe-Kang. It, the Nook Color, won't play Crysis but I don't ask it to. I want to watch a TV show, (screw HD. If you have to have HD buy an Apple product and haunt *their* forums), at lunch. Listen to audio books/music as I'm traveling, read something at night and beep me awake. Throw in the occasional solitaire, Angry Birds or Tetris to kill time in line and you've got the idea.
I follow the updates for fun but for the average user I would recommend that you just make sure the latest update is stable, apply it and not worry about it anymore until you start wondering about ICS or Jelly Bean.
Wow, this is definitely faster than the AOKP I was running. Noticed a big difference right away. Odd because AOKP is based on CM9 I think. Guess CM7 is just a better fit.
Thanks everyone for your responses
I recently purchased Nexus 7 16 Gb version. Haven't rooted it yet, will do it soon.
But I noticed that the moment I booted up the Nexus for the first time, I checked the App Settings and found out that around 500mb of RAM is being used. I calculated all the processes running and it only adds up to around 150mb. So why the extra 350mb?
Please help me. I tried factory reset several times yet no joy at all.
Dear god not another one of these threads. :crying:
Grrr most asked android question.
Android is a user interface running on a Linux kernel.. They do NOT manage ram like windows.They do not discard things and let ram sit empty. This takes more cpu cycles to reopen the app . Android memory management keeps things idle in ram . Things you use Most. So the next time you want it all it does it start it back up. It can do this without loading it back into ram. This is much more less taxing on the devices resources including battery life then having to run at full speed to open a app again that you run often..Also much of that ram is set aside for video function. If you get low on ram resources the Android os will toss out of memory the least used app to allow for what it needs.
DO NOT USE APP KILLERS. Do not use memory managers. Android does good job with this..
Also sometimes you can have rogue apps that constantly use the above to there benefit. If you start feeling your device gets very sluggish just watch what apps are at the top of the list. If you have one constantly there and never use it.. Its likely to be misbehaving and not following the devices memory rules. Remove that app and report it to the developer.
The above is a very QUICK Version and leaves much out but it will give you the basic understanding..
OHH and GOOGLE Can be your friend. this is THE MOST ASKED QUESTION ON ANDROID.. www.google.com/androidrammanagement
Sorry
Thanks for helping and I did search, probably searched incorrectly. All it came up was about memory space, not RAM. Again thanks for the help.
A reboot now and then helps. I was playing with a fixed demo setup of a Note 2 @ Tesco and it was incredibly laggy due to all the rug rats playing on it. Who knows how many days, or weeks that thing must have been running
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Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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I would think that the kernel would have more importance in gaming performance than the rom itself, try FauxKernal/Matrix kernel which has slightly overclocked gpu
Traffik said:
Hi
Im currently running Paranoid Android with Nova Launcher plus homescreen widgets and a fairly simple live wallpaper.
Gaming is not that great, emulators run fine but games like NOVA 3 and Asphalt 7 are choppy.
Ive checked CPU-Z and my CPU usage keeps jumping from around 10% to 100% so I guess I have a problem.
I know I could just uninstall a load of stuff and get rid of a lot of my customisations, which Im sure would help, but while Im on this I may as well get the best ROM I can for gaming.
Ive read stuff about CPU and GPU throttling and undervoltage setting etc, and to be honest I dont really want to go messing around too much.
Is there are ROM that has been optimised for gaming? Or should I revert back to stock? Or stick with PA and clean out all the crap?
Please help, I just got myself a MOGA PRO and its excellent, but choppy frame rates in most games are a real pain!
Thanks
Nat.
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Ever tried Trinity kernel?
No I haven't.
I would recommend faux or trinity, like above. Battery life sucks on heavy gaming though.
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OK cool thanks guys I'm going to try a different kernel then.
What about my cpuz readings though? Is it normal for my cpu to keep jumping around even when idle?
i think CM is very good
Threre is no such thing as a best Rom, try some and see which best suites your needs.
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The i9000 has just 389 mb ram available to users and hence often leads to lags and app closures in background, in addition to poor gaming performance(apps have to be closed by the game causing stutters and frame rate dops in the beginning of any game)
I was wondering if like ios it was possible for a rom dev to just allow core os apps in a rom and have psuedo-multitasking(freezing and unfreezing) like ios.The reason that iphone 4s, works so smooth and can play heavy games(like real racing 3) with 512 mb ram is because of their multi tasking technique.
At the moment,There is an option in developer options where you can limit background processes to none and purge activities as soon as you exit the activity.This is good for running games(as even the launcher and any other back ground app is closed as soon as u start the app allowing full ram for the current game).This is good for gamers but prevents any form of multi tasking between apps.
If this could be used in complement with freezing and unfreezing of background apps(like ios) then maybe this phone would not have any lag issues at all, even in future heavy os updates.
P.S : It's just an idea. I'm no dev but sure could use an opinion of one .
EDIT : A solution which works for me. Gamerzrom v4.0 has caching of apps pre-enabled. So no more apps killed in background due to lack of ram.
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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kogli said:
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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Buy an iPhone then. Got it?
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Too expensive xDD
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Try Greenify
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Agreed as task killers never worked for me, But to have actual freezing (of background apps only) there's greenify (available on market for free for root users only), and so i have enough ram(about 170-190 mb) to play heavy games without much lag.
But the issue here is to have proper multi-tasking without burdening the os. That is just like how greenify stores the state of the app in background and then completely freezes it, so it won't start again in background and yet open normally when needed(better than disabling the app/service) .If something like this could be extended to foreground apps.
If there's no solution possible, then just buy the cheaper version of iphone coming soon, if its expensive ryt now .
Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Still many people have sgs
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Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Well over 25 million sgs1 have been sold, and all of them don't have enough money to upgrade anytime soon.
Also the need of such high specs is because apps run in parallel in background.If such a project to develop psuedo-multi tasking is started and completed, then there won't be any need of upgrading ur phone at all(even other low ram phones will benefit from it). But such a project requires great deal of work with how the system works internally, it will require great devs (which we have ) so maybe something can happen :fingers-crossed:.
I know that our phones are strong enough to handle any app one at a time(i disabled all background services possible and set phone to purge any activity as soon as it exits and set background app limit to 0 , using 439mb ram option in devil kernel with sick sky launcher), so i had upto 230 mb ram free when i checked it in settings app(which uses 30 mb ram itself) . With such a setup and oc to 1.2 ghz, i have been able to play real racing 3 with medium graphics(modded)(played at level of graphics of iphone 4) on my phone with almost no lag.
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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Yes if you notice devs have left and those who stayed have many projects and so the development goes slow until it stopps :/
Many of us dont have the money to move to a new device so well just see whats going to happen fingeres crossed it all goes okay
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Im still on modified gingerbread. xD
Use greenify search for it in the play store
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Couldn't this easily be achieved with a swappiness tweak? Write any app that isn't in focus onto the swap partition so no background apps are in memory, would make the system **** tier slow though for anything but gaming.
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Delete bloatware,disable unnecessary services without disabling whole app with DisableServices app ( you can find it on google store,and it's free), install busybox pro and run RAM manager Pro, and last step would be to try installing soem custom Roms which probably could give better performance to you.
A good setup for gaming
For those people who want to obtain maximum performance from games, here are some tips which i have found over the 3 years i have had this phone:
1) The best kernel for gaming which i have used would be devil kernel (jb 4.2) , purely because of a 439 mb ram optionum amount of ram which can be found usable at the moment. This mode however disables the camera completely. Also it has options for overclocking.
I personally use the 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz clock speed for processor.
2) Try to use a debloated rom, and then try to use as less gapps as possible i.e. try to use the slim version of the gapps for the rom or install the gapps which u require manually. The gapps are not shown normally but under google services so u cant hibernate them with greenify. SO its better to not have unused gapps and features like face unlock ets.
3) Instead of using task managers, use greenify so that apps do not restart again. And try to hibernate all apps which u dont require. Apps like facebook, g+ and whatsapp are the biggest ram hoggers. Also beware of google maps cuz it does not hibernates(uses 30-40 mb ram)
4) Disable services like email exchange etc which are not used by you at all.
5)I have seen that restarting the phone helps get rid of some google core services, giving more free ram.
6) There is an option in developer settings at the bottom in apps section, set background app limit to none and also check the option "don't keep activities". Do this just before gaming and then undo them after ur done or else it will prevent any form of multi tasking.
7)Try to use light weight launchers, and no widgets(as these themselve are like an extra process which need to run in background). I am using sicksky launcher(uses just 18 mb). other options are zeam and lightning launcher.
NOTE : anyone using stock samsung rom (2.3.6), they should switch over to a custom rom, because samsung rom is completely not for gamers. most of the system processes are hard to kill , also total available ram is only (316-330) vs jb ( total ram usable is 390- 439). However if
u dont wanna change ur rom, greenify will still help, also disabling services.
Conclusion: I am using gamerzrom v4, with devil kernel using 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz oc.
I have had no lags in all temple runs (including oz), subway surfer and rr3 on medium graphics, nfs mw. normally using the above tips i have 180-210 + <ram used by settings app> ram free at any moment when i'm checking free ram in settings->apps->running (settings itself is a process and to see total free ram add the amount used by settings to free ram).
Also i have observed that the game devs(mainly gameloft and glu) have now begun to put our phone in low power gpu category(not totally incorrect for an unmodded sgs but not true if u have use the above tricks(especially oc and ram mod)).
so these games often can be modded for higher graphics (various mods on xda for games like nfs mw, rr3, asphalt 7, nova 3 etc) so they can be played with better graphics without lag. I have tried nfs mw mod, asphalt 7 mod, rr3 mod and they all work pretty good on medium(not available normally).
i would love it if more people share their tips on how they keep their phones going strong
Saw this Forum, Even tho im not a Samsung GS1 User, My Buddy has one and i recently gave him my ADJ Values that i use on my Xperia Play (same specs as ur device...) and he said he could do Gaming, Multitasking, and All sorts of more,
Here it is:
Code:
# Pro Gamer ADJ 1.3 By Pizza_Dox
ro.FOREGROUND_APP_ADJ=0
ro.VISIBLE_APP_ADJ=3
ro.PERCEPTIBLE_APP_ADJ=2
ro.HEAVY_WEIGHT_APP_ADJ=3
ro.SECONDARY_SERVER_ADJ=15
ro.BACKUP_APP_ADJ=7
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
ro.HIDDEN_APP_MIN_ADJ=3
ro.EMPTY_APP_ADJ=15
Also if u Wanna Keep the Home Launcher in Ram do this Instead of This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
Replace with This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
Oh and to apply them just copy to build.prop but make sure their arnt any other ADJ Values, then once done save and reboot!
Hope this helped,
Oh btw try VmLagTunner before Playing Games, Or install Permanently!
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darkknigh_t said:
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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I dont know about that im running gamerzrom 4.2 and its running great i think 4.2 can run fine just needs a little more work and time but yea will have to move on to a new phone :/
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