Hello, I have a problem that I do not think it is too common!
When I install CM7, I have a problem, heat phone battery gets up to 38 degrees!
If I install CM10 battery is stable and reaches up to 32 degrees, I know that much and 32 degrees but I have no idea why this is happening ... !
If anyone knows what is the cause of this problem, I kindly clarify me !
At first I'm thinking no way would be to blame the SBF! But why until a few months ago has not happened!
Then I thought that battery fault, but if the CM10 I do not do the same when I stopped to think that the battery is to blame.
Therefore I beg you to recommend me a SBF for Motorola (Defy +), mention that I live in Romania (if this information affects anything).
Thank you very much.
I could be that you've edited Vsel's and that it's producing the heat. Try to lower up to default using SetVsel or change that configuration on recovery
Can you recommend me some settings VSEL to CM10 or CM7! Something that I no longer heat the battery?
I noticed Vsel1 cm 10 has only 2 and 3, but GB has Vsel 1, 2, 3, 4!
Can you tell me some settings for both? Something to be ok, a balance between performance and battery life?
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Hi!
So I've installed BatteryLife to monitor the percentage of battery remaining as well as the temperature of my Defy, and I've noticed that as I run some apps, it sometimes reach as much as 40°C. What I'm worried about is that it might fry my processor, if I assume things correctly. Will it be that way? How do I solve this?
not use it?
40C is fine.
the temperature that you talk about is that of the battery. 40C is fine if you play some games or similar cpu intensive apps.
Yes 40C is fine!
Yesterday I have 48 C, and the phone was acting normally, so 40 isn't a issue. Also, the phone has cool down mode that activates when it reach critical temp.
mine is normally 37degrees. but make sure your rom doesn't have some overclocking settings and vsel is not set too high.
Once my phone did reached 50°C and I open up the battery cover for better ventilation. I did this because I was on 3g continuesly online while listening music. Phone run no problem for another 2 hours non stop..
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yeahh true that..
i recently bought a Defy plus...and it overheat when i use 3G or any background download...it gets so heated up that i have to put it before AC to cool it down..now it seems like i dont owe a DEFY+...DEFY+ owe me...as i have to take care of this ****...everyday..!!
anmol7ify said:
i recently bought a Defy plus...and it overheat when i use 3G or any background download...it gets so heated up that i have to put it before AC to cool it down..now it seems like i dont owe a DEFY+...DEFY+ owe me...as i have to take care of this ****...everyday..!!
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How much is the temp when overheat ?
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I`ve just rooted my defy and am thinking of installing a custom rom.
Can anyone tell me whether I would get better or worse battery life than with stock (I realize that not all custom roms are the same but on average are they better or worse for battery ?)
Thanks
Jeff
well if you read around everyone suggests that this rom is better then the other, but well to each his own.
what you could do is figure out which rom you like and install it.
the battery backup on froyo vs any custom i have tried, froyo wins hands down.
there are many apps in the market which will help you get an increased battery life and figure out where exactly your having issues or which app is giving you that head ache, eg: juice defender
so you will, inevitably get a pretty decent battery backup!
hope this helps!
Thanks for that.
Do you mean froyo stock has good battery life or one of the froyo custom roms?
Jeff
WIUI has an excellent battery-life!
I have battery problem on every custom or stock ROM... tjis is what i get with no use of phone.. i tried to calibrate battery but again there was no improvement...
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Your signature says that you have OC'd to 1.2ghz. This could be the problem.
CM7.1 stable, with moderate use, wifi always on, some 3g: battery lasts ~4days
i believe stock froyo has the best battery life. with custom roms, my vote goes to miui. but i'm on cm7 for its performance, and still with good enough battery life.
Early CM7 gave me around 4 days, currently on the latest nightly 111123 which is about 2 days, which is still fine for me, especially given the performance boost it gives the phone.
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Your signature says that you have OC'd to 1.2ghz. This could be the problem.
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I didn't refreshed my signature, its on 1000mHz.. But with stock rom (800mhz) i get the same poor battery :S
dh.harald I am zapped... 4 days
Ever since I got my defy in Aug11, I have been struggling with 1 day battery life.
Even had a battery replacement a month back, yet no advantage.
Finally had root my device to CM7 RC1.5, did (darky's) battery calibration few times and now I get close to 36 hours with below normal voice, no data (20min max), no wifi (1 hr max), no gps, auto brightness, no bluetooth, 15 sec screen timeout, and no other usage.
Do you feel I should again try get my device serviced?
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I installed MS2Ginger Lite 2.0 (based on chinese) and i had 0.5% battery consumption during off-peak hours just like the other chinese roms. I did not tested it long enough but it seems as good as the other chinese roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022390
I know it is a silly question but, here it is: charging over USB reduces the battery life shelf?
Edit1: I mean, keep about 4-6 hours per day charging over USB reduces the battery life shelf?
unrafa said:
I installed MS2Ginger Lite 2.0 (based on chinese) and i had 0.5% battery consumption during off-peak hours just like the other chinese roms. I did not tested it long enough but it seems as good as the other chinese roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022390
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MS2Ginger 2.0 had better battery life then 2.1...Im using 2.1 now and I have only 32h of battery with the same usage of phone like on 2.0 where I had >60h of battery life.
Ill do one more time recalibration of battery and check it but for now, I think that new Bootmenu is the one thing that fcked up battery life (since clk3 and clk4 are equal and both are 1000, but in previous bootmenu u could put clk3=800 and clk4=1000).
Will track battery life more.
I like 2.1 so fckin much so I'd like to have 60h of battery life again.
MS2ginger2.1=MS2ginger2+patches. it shouldn't consume more power. I think that setting clk2 to 600MHz is a bad practice. Try clk2=800MHz instead.
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MS2Ginger 2.0 had better battery life then 2.1...Im using 2.1 now and I have only 32h of battery with the same usage of phone like on 2.0 where I had >60h of battery life.
Ill do one more time recalibration of battery and check it but for now, I think that new Bootmenu is the one thing that fcked up battery life (since clk3 and clk4 are equal and both are 1000, but in previous bootmenu u could put clk3=800 and clk4=1000).
Will track battery life more.
I like 2.1 so fckin much so I'd like to have 60h of battery life again.
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I'm also using 2.1 and see only 3 Vsel setting in the bootmenu. Just enable all modules, save and reboot. Even though bootmenu will still only show 3 Vsel settings, use SetVsel app and you can change clk3 and clk4. My clk3 is back to 800MHz like before. Confirmed with CPUspy that 800MHz is used.
Ok...After recalibration of battery with Battery Calibrator from Market I managed to have 66h of battery time with default CPU settings in CWM.
U can see whole post and pics over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19803002&postcount=1722
and here some answers to the questions asked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19809255&postcount=1731
Im not in the mood for changing settings in CWM now, but Id really like to try smartass governor in a future. Maybe that would give me more than 72h of battery.
Or maybe V6supercharger script. Don't know.
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CM7.1 stable, with moderate use, wifi always on, some 3g: battery lasts ~4days
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how'd you achieve that?
Hello everyone...
I have 2 issues with my Transformer
the first one is that whenever i leave my Transformer for couple hours it shuts down !! doesn't occur when charging but it does when it's not.. even when the battery is around 80% !! i had this problem with ALL kernels except the stock kernel which i don't wanna use !! also had this problem for around 2 months...
the second one happened today when i left my Transformer "Charged" at 100%.. and after couple of hours i found it shut down but when i powered it on again i found the battery 27% !!
i went to the battery stats and found that battery was decreasing slowly and there was a gap (which means that it turned off) and after the gap it shows the battery low !! it happened within 6 hours !!
Please help me if you can... !! I'm using Revolver ROM 3.9.5 and "Blades Kernel 3" that comes in the Revolver Parts...
UPDATE : The problem occurs with the stock kernel !!
This sounds very familiar to the problem I had with my Galaxy S2 a month ago.
It kept shutting down every few hours, and it was driving me mad. Then one day I uninstalled the app greenpower, and it was fine afterwards. You don't have the greenpower app by any chance? If not, maybe it can be caused by some other app you normally use?
The battery might be hosed. Have you ever let it hit 0 before? A lot of batteries never fully recover after being fully depleted once or twice.
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This sounds very familiar to the problem I had with my Galaxy S2 a month ago.
It kept shutting down every few hours, and it was driving me mad. Then one day I uninstalled the app greenpower, and it was fine afterwards. You don't have the greenpower app by any chance? If not, maybe it can be caused by some other app you normally use?
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I never heard of this app... Just like i said it doesn't happen with the stock kernel !!
But the reason I'm using other kernels is because i wanna Overclock !!
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The battery might be hosed. Have you ever let it hit 0 before? A lot of batteries never fully recover after being fully depleted once or twice.
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No i never let it hit 0%... but i don't think that the problem is in the battery
However I'll try it and see what happens !
sounds like a silly question but i have seen it alot. Are you charging through a computer(USB) or wall?
It could be related to setCPU and the according profiles. Just recently I saw that my profiles were messed up after updating ROM and kernel. Might be worth a shot.
Reinstall stock kernel Issue #1 fixed.
Issue 2 sounds like charger shut off and left TF on not charging.
You've pretty much explained to yourself why the thing is shutting down.. It works fine on the stock kernel but not one that is letting you overclock.. Sounds to me like you are either overclocking more than it can handle or undervolting to much or both.
I can almost bet that its not shutting down completely and its just going into a state that the screen is off but the OS is hung up, so its not responding to you turning the screen on.. This would explain why the battery seems to be dieing when its sitting idle.
Not sure about it dieing while its plugged in other than maybe a fluke.
I don't wanna use the stock kernel.. it's really slow !!
and i over clock to 1.4 ghz only since i can't overclock more than that because it restarts itself endlessly if i overclocked more than 1.4 ghz !! i undervolted about -25 or -50.. not much !!
Yes i charge it on a wall or anything but NOT on my computer...
How can i change profiles in setcpu ??
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No i never let it hit 0%... but i don't think that the problem is in the battery
However I'll try it and see what happens !
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No no you misunderstood! DONT let the battery hit 0.
First, you need to use more exclamation points !!!!
sounds like you are suffering from deep sleep issues. What rom are you running? also, have you tried running a custom kernel and not overclock it? You have several variables that can be influencing your issues, start isolating what may be causing your problems. the kernel seems the must likely of culprits, I would clear the overclock and install setcpu and run it for a but and see if you can replicate your issue.
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Just try the non stock kernel, oc it but dont uv it, not all devices can handle uv, even if it is only a little bit. Even take it back too 1000mhz and try to increase the uv and oc by little bits at a time to see exactly what your transformer can handle. I think its the uv thats causing the problems. Experiment a bit and youll find the sweet spot.
I'm using Revolver ROM and i mentioned that...
I've never undervolted till yestersay.. maybe it caused the second problem
I set the clock speed at 1ghz and i'm waiting to see if anything changes..
Yeah... the problem still occurs even after setting the clock speed at 1ghz and default voltage !! using clemsyn kernel ver 22...
Every device is different. Differences in manufacturing etc. You might have a picky device. Plus these are mobile platforms. No fans, just convection cooling. They are not meant to be tweaked and oc'ed they way we do. The stock kernel is very fast. What is it that you cannot do on the stock kernel that the extreme oc let's you do?
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Every device is different. Differences in manufacturing etc. You might have a picky device. Plus these are mobile platforms. No fans, just convection cooling. They are not meant to be tweaked and oc'ed they way we do. The stock kernel is very fast. What is it that you cannot do on the stock kernel that the extreme oc let's you do?
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I'm guessing my device is bad and it's Asus' problem ! i tried setting the clock speed at normal 1Ghz but the problem still occurs !! the reason i overclock is that because with the stock kernel i get slower web browsing and slower flash playback and slower overall performance!! however I'm back on the stock kernel to check out if the problem is gone or not...
I doubted my device couple months ago... because I've seen everyone overclock their devices at 1.6 GHz Without any issues !! but when i try to overclock a little bit more than 1.4 GHz it restarts itself endlessly !!
Had the same issue a few months ago. Be prepared to wake up to a dead TF.
I sent it back to ASUS and they replaced main board and battery. Under warranty of course. I suggest you unroot and use a stock rom for now.
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Had the same issue a few months ago. Be prepared to wake up to a dead TF.
I sent it back to ASUS and they replaced main board and battery. Under warranty of course. I suggest you unroot and use a stock rom for now.
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What do you exactly mean by "for now" ??
and how can i even send it to ASUS ??! i don't live in the USA
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I'm guessing my device is bad and it's Asus' problem !!!
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You stated in an earlier post that the problem does not show up in the stock ASUS setup, but only with a custom ROM and Kernel. How does that make it ASUS' problem. If you buy a car that says it runs on 87 octane fuel and you put 100% nitro methane in the tank and it blows up it is not the manufacturers fault.
hi folks
im using a rom that i love and is the best i´ve tried.WajkIUI 1.12.16 ICS
but i have a consern and is about the phone heat.
this rom is overclocked this way :
350 / 30
700 / 40
1100/60
i want to know if it is normal that the phone gets hot most of the time when im web browsing and making calls. maybe its a baseband or overclock issue.
some times i get 45-50 C and my phone is on FIRE
when i was on CM7 RC1.5 i never have this heat problem.
so if anyone can give some advise that will be great
thanks and sorry for my english
mine using latest WajkIUI version, its totally stable and the battery percentage usage is really great.
heat normally around 32 c.
Install the battery monitor and see what is using your battery, i know that wiui consumes more battery than CM7, but i think 45º isn't common
I had a similar situation after flashing CM9 ICS. The phone went hot (also when in standby) with actually no obviouse reason (battery life was also only a few hours). Back then, after reflashing and whiping of cache and dalvik cache the problem disapeared.
I'm not sure if reflashing is needed, but if anything else fails I would give it a try.
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hi folks
im using a rom that i love and is the best i´ve tried.WajkIUI 1.12.16 ICS
but i have a consern and is about the phone heat.
this rom is overclocked this way :
350 / 30
700 / 40
1100/60
i want to know if it is normal that the phone gets hot most of the time when im web browsing and making calls. maybe its a baseband or overclock issue.
some times i get 45-50 C and my phone is on FIRE
when i was on CM7 RC1.5 i never have this heat problem.
so if anyone can give some advise that will be great
thanks and sorry for my english
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Hi you can read an article here :
http://androidunderground.blogspot.com/2011/05/setvsel-overclock-and-undervolt-your.html
its regarding overclocking & undervolting.. may 1100/60 is a problematic figure ..!! u can try to make it little lower ..! hope it works..!!
my ways
Hey, my setup is like this,
300/25
600/35
800/45
and so set in my mind, very energy efficient, I use the version CM7.2, Chinese optimize the modified version. My phone model is mb526, that is, mb525 +, BL = 6, do not know your phone is practical
try juce defender extreme
My Defy is now 4 years old and I love this phone because it's easy to unbrick and this was my first touch screen phone and I know my Defy well but now I'm having a problem where now my Defy is not as fast as it used to be. I have flashed too many roms to count, flashed a sbf maybe 4 or 5 times when bricked, and used the MacGyver Hack twice and after a while I was fine and now I settled for Epsylon Cm9 but through all that my Defy is still slow, (slower than it used to be) at first I thought is was Mokee os being it was Jelly Bean 4.3.1 but it wasn't. My Defy now gets hot when using mobile data, wifi reception is now lower no matter what android version, I also have one of the first made models with green lens and bad ear speaker, and the battery drops from 100 - 94 to 78 - 69 to 50 - 49 to 20 - 19 to 14 to 5 to 4 and dies suddenly in about maybe an hour to thirty minutes depending on what I'm doing. If anyone can give me solutions to my problems, that would be greatly appreciated even though I don't think many can help because I am good with a Defy even though I can't fix my problems with it. I'm also not a developer. Thanks in advance.
No suggestions?
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I am no developer neither, even a pure noob on XDA, but what you described may be connected to aging battery. If it is original one and was heavily used - it may be just chemically dying. Take it out and inspect if it is swollen. Mine original one is a bit, and it shows some loss of capacity and percentage drops as well. New one made by "Andida", standard dimensions, although labeled as 2200mAh, works well - almost as original 1500mAh one when it was new. It gave Defy back more stable percentage counter (although temp. sensor is not working properly), and better charge holding (original old one, seems to me to discharge itself quickly even when taken out of the phone and treated as a spare).
thrackanomir said:
I am no developer neither, even a pure noob on XDA, but what you described may be connected to aging battery. If it is original one and was heavily used - it may be just chemically dying. Take it out and inspect if it is swollen. Mine original one is a bit, and it shows some loss of capacity and percentage drops as well. New one made by "Andida", standard dimensions, although labeled as 2200mAh, works well - almost as original 1500mAh one when it was new. It gave Defy back more stable percentage counter (although temp. sensor is not working properly), and better charge holding (original old one, seems to me to discharge itself quickly even when taken out of the phone and treated as a spare).
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It is the original battery and it is kinda swollen. Thank you for the suggestion.