[Q] Sneaking Past Motoblur With No Mobile Internet Connection - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

OK I've dumped a TLDR above but the story behind it is below for 'context' (and also as an coffession)
TLDR
Is it possible to get past motoblur with no internet/cell phone connection
Storytime with a wannabe tech
I bought the defy in Hong Kong from a shady businessman while living in China. My wife and I moved back to NZ but when I got back I discovered that with the China unicom baseband it would only operate in Auckland, Whangarei and basically only the major cities.
I eventually got another phone but then discovered the joys of the baseband switcher and used a baseband from one of the Australian networks.
I decided I wanted to upgrade to Android 4.1 at the start of the year and, deciding that I wasn't sufficiently tech savvy and didn't have the time to install a custom rom I purchased another phone and gave the defy to my father to bring him into the 21st century. I even wiped my details and set up a new motoblur account for him. He put in the password and then forgot to write it down or even remember it.
Fastforward to 11 months later when, for some reason the baseband stops working.
I'm trying to get into the phone to tutu with the baseband. The SIM card has been removed so I need to get past motobrrrr and, because the reception is up the wop I can't get past.
What should I do? I think it's flashed but not rooted and ideally I'd like to stick a more up to date rom/SDK on it than 2.2/2.3 but first I need to get to it.
Suggestions?

Are you sure there's no skip option? I have a hazy recollection of that being there. If not, the easiest way forward is flashing one of those premade sbfs, which you can find in the dev section. That should get the phone running a legacy version of cm10, from where you can upgrade easily
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thekguy said:
Are you sure there's no skip option? I have a hazy recollection of that being there. If not, the easiest way forward is flashing one of those premade sbfs, which you can find in the dev section. That should get the phone running a legacy version of cm10, from where you can upgrade easily
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I've done some hunting round the phone and can't find the skip option. I did find where I could turn the wifi on without worrying about the password (just h\it the menu button if anybody is looking for it in the future) but a trip to motobrrrs portal disavows any knowledge of my account or my father's account so I guess I'll find a SBF.
Thanks for your help with this.

UPDATE DOING A HARD RESET On a defy
SO I bit the bullet and worked through motoblur with a motorolla customer service rep.
If anybody finds themselves in the unenviable position that I've found myself in (unlikely given the age of the phone and the tech level of everybody here)
This is how you get out of it:
Motorola Defy Hard Reset Instruction
1. Please turn off the phone.
2. Press and hold "volume down" key, then power up.
3. The robot screen will show
4. Touch bottom right corner of the screen. (Press Volume UP and Volume DOWN together)
5. Use the Volume key to navigate the menu to Wipe Data/Factory reset.
6. Tap ‘Ok’ on the screen ( Press on the POWER button to confirm)
7. Use the Volume key to navigate the menu to ok delete.
8. Tap ‘Ok’ on the screen (Bottom left)
9. When done ‘Reboot system now’ is highlighted, tap ‘Ok’ to restart phone.
Rep: This will delete everything stored on the phone's internal memory okay?
Me: OK formatting now
Me: rebooting
Rep: Okay.
Me: OK I'm in motoblur
Me: the language is Chinese
Communication with the RightNow Chat service has been lost. Please wait while attempts are made to restore the connection.
Disconnection in 240 seconds.
Connection resumed.
Rep: Is there an option to change it?
Me: yes it's english now
Me: Im in set up a wifi connenction
Rep: Okay. Hopefully it will work.
Me: register new account or use existing
Me: will it recall xxxxxxxxx now?
Rep: Use existing please.
Me: OK
Rep: You can try.
Me: OK tried xxxxxxx and it's telling me this account doesn't exist on blur
Me: I'll set it up again if that's the case
Rep: Yes please.
Me: OK got through to the welcome aboard crap
Rep: Okay.
Me: Thanks for your help
Rep: No worries .
Me: so what baseband will this be working off
Me: will I need to track down another Australian baseband?
Rep: I can't answer that since it's released in the US.
Me: OK I'll take that as a yes
Me: thanks heaps

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From a Newbie

I just received a new O2 XDA II...New in the box.
Its from England...I think. Anyhow, it will NOT work with my USA T-mobile sim card. I downloaded the XDA Developers XDA2UNLOCK tool v1.2. My first problem is I don't know what the "Action" button is. I read the "users guide", but was unable to locate the Action button.... however, I did find the Power button. LOL
The XDA Developers XDA2UNLOCK software mentions "Backing up your data." Will this operation wipeout the Windows operation system or just the saved data? Since its new and I have not put anything in the device, will I be OK?
I'm old and not too computer literate. Had I know that this device would not work in the US with T-Mobile, I would not have bought it. But now that I have it, I'm will to try and get it unlocked and up and running.
If someone is willing to help me through this, I would be glad to pay you for your time.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Captirwin
Las Vegas, NV
I think the "Action" button is the centre of the rocker (directional) button between the green and red phone buttons under the Xda II logo.
As for backing up your data this is the precaution you should take when upgrading or changing anythng that uses the operating system and is usually a good habit to do regularly anyway. Since this is new then you should be ok anyway.
Regards

HELP HTC Advantage X7500 Password changed itself (no log in possible)

Hi,
I've a big big problem with my HTC Advantage.
Yesterday the unit worked perfect until it switched off because of the empty battery. Then I charged it overnight.
Today in the mornig my log in passwort didn´t work anymore.
I never changed the password "0103" since 1,5 years.
What can I do now to get on my hdd? I´ve got a "actually" backup on the MiniSD-Card. But it's not possible to get on it.
Even the Hardware-Reset (Volume down holding Reset) doesn't work. I get on the "reset-screen" but the Action-Key doesn't work. Only the Camera (abort) is working.
It's absolutely true, the password changed it self.
Have you got any ideas? HTC says that in repair all datas will be lost!
Best regards from Austria and many many thanks for helping.
I can only say that I have also had the same experience.
For me the battery never ran out of juice but one morning the Advantage just would not accept my 4-digit "password".
I finally had to give up, for after a number of tries the time between each time one can try a new password becomes VERY long (and I also KNOW the password I used so what was the point...). Soft Resets did not help
So I ended up with a hard reset...
And I no longer use a password...
neon-mödling said:
Hi,
I've a big big problem with my HTC Advantage.
Yesterday the unit worked perfect until it switched off because of the empty battery. Then I charged it overnight.
Today in the mornig my log in passwort didn´t work anymore.
I never changed the password "0103" since 1,5 years.
What can I do now to get on my hdd? I´ve got a "actually" backup on the MiniSD-Card. But it's not possible to get on it.
Even the Hardware-Reset (Volume down holding Reset) doesn't work. I get on the "reset-screen" but the Action-Key doesn't work. Only the Camera (abort) is working.
It's absolutely true, the password changed it self.
Have you got any ideas? HTC says that in repair all datas will be lost!
Best regards from Austria and many many thanks for helping.
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I would call HTC and see if their's a default password they might have to get you back into the unit. I know it's a long shot but give it a try bud.
Did you do the hardware reset in the recommended way?
Volume down and pressing Reset at the same time.
Then press the Action Key in the middle (Key with the 4-directions).
I can't do a hardware reset because the button "is not working" or is locked because of the password.
I called HTC today and talked with a competent support engineer. There is no default key to unlock the password. It should be a Windows-Problem.
The only way is to send the unit to HTC - all data will be lost!
Best regards
it can change if you change your IMEI. otherwise no idea why.
For me it worked performing a standard 'hard reset' - volume slider down and 'reset'.
Sadly it seems that no one has got any other solutions...
change rom and restor you back up
go to bootloader mode, dont remember how but the info is somewhere in the forum. Then change rom, you can get the default rom off google if you search, so you actually uprading the same rom again into you existing rom. Then restore your backup. That's should do. i had the same problem and using standard volume slider down and pressing reset button worked for me. Hope that helps.
BPHC said:
go to bootloader mode, dont remember how but the info is somewhere in the forum. Then change rom, you can get the default rom off google if you search, so you actually uprading the same rom again into you existing rom. Then restore your backup. That's should do. i had the same problem and using standard volume slider down and pressing reset button worked for me. Hope that helps.
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uh, no need to reflash. just a plain hardreset will do.
Thanks all for helping.
I decided to send the HTC to the Austrian Service Point.
There´s still a gurantee, so I don´t want to spend every free minute with this stupid thing.
Best regards
neon-mödling said:
Thanks all for helping.
I decided to send the HTC to the Austrian Service Point.
There´s still a gurantee, so I don´t want to spend every free minute with this stupid thing.
Best regards
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heh, task 28 command in mtty is guaranteed to hard reset it if the button press is no good. but maybe it has some hw fault if the buttons don't work..
Solution
This is the only way to solve this issue. Yes its a BUG.
The Password is no longer stored correcly when you loose your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1164331
No patch avalible until now.
Niendertal said:
This is the only way to solve this issue. Yes its a BUG.
The Password is no longer stored correcly when you loose your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1164331
No patch avalible until now.
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this link describes how to hard reset a blueangel. not athena.
"task 28" works though, but you do not need "task 0".
"task 28" basically does a plain hard reset, though. you only need to use it if volume+reset doesn't work (which is usually a HW button issue)
This just happened to me on my Touch...
but I ABSOLUTELY need the data on my touch. What to do?
Same Issue - MDA Vario II - PDAViet WM 6.1
Did anyone come, by any chance, up with a solution how to avoid the looming hard-reset?
Happened yesterday - password changed on its own.... Couldn't believe it!!
Still no fix?
I just got back from vacation yesterday. The phone worked fine until this morning. Somehow the password changed and I cannot get in. This sucks! I will lose all of my vacation photos (on internal memory) if I do a hard reset. The good news: I did a back up prior to going on vacation, so I won't lose everything. I, however, really hate to lose two weeks of photos. Any new suggestions on how to retrieve my data?
Sorry dude,
Hv to tell u that I was unable to find one when I was desperately looking for one some time ago. Best of luck anyways, and let us know in case you're successful.
Josh
Thanks for your um, empathy. I did a hard reset, but skipped the flash drive reformat. This reset the main memory to factory settings, but did not delete any of the files on the flash disk. I saved all of my photos, spreadsheets, and other data from the vacation. I restored the August 13th backup, but only the main memory files and lost very little.
This was a scary experience for two reasons: 1) I almost lost a ton of data, 2) I got it all back without needing a password. I thought that data on the flash disk was secure, but I was soooo wrong. All 16Gb are as secure as what is on the MicroSD card. If someone stole my device and performed the same operation they would have had lots of embarrassing photos of me at a bacchelor party and wearing a Spedo (or less) on the beach. I guess this is something I need to keep in mind in the future. I don't need these photos popping up when I run for president.

reflashing blind?

My still under warranty 6900 has a totally black screen. I can see that the backlight is on- it is the actual lcd that is black and the phone will receive calls. (I can't see if it goes to bootloader since the screen is black) Presumably, this has nothing to do with the nsfan6.5 ROM on it.
Verizon CS told me on the phone that if they sent me a warranty replacement then found it to be water (or physically) damaged, they would "have to" bill me for the RETAIL value of the phone. She gave me the option to take it into a verizon store to have a tech first OK the replacement to avoid this possibility. He OK'd it and is should be here shortly.
Is there a way to get it back to stock rom while not being able to read what is on the screen? For that matter, is this even worth doing or will VZW not notice?
PS- I'm trying to decide what ROM to put on the replacement phone- Android is tempting but I think I'm going to wait for the smart people to finish getting stereo bluetooth and standalone GPS all sorted out. I'm sure I'll play with it on the SD card in the meanwhile. Thoughts?
I realized I should add:
On the phone I need to send back, I have the bell (complete with ugly blue start up screen) 3.42.50 radio and whatever nsfan 6.5 build was most recent back then.
To accomplish the flash, I also have a 2gb microsd card (with reader) and have downloaded the stock verizon rom.
Also, the touch screen appears to work (vibrates on touch) however, no amount of guesses with random screen touches could get the phone to connect with activesync or tether (sadly, the last type of connection I made was as a removable drive). In other words, things might not be where they are supposed to be on the screen so telling me to tap at pixel 120x200 (or wherever the "next" or "ok" button might invisibly be) may or may not work.
thanks again!
Enter bootloader - Hold Camera and Power and soft reset.
Connect to usb
Run RUU from stock rom.
dvirus1023 said:
Enter bootloader - Hold Camera and Power and soft reset.
Connect to usb
Run RUU from stock rom.
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LOL, thanks. I just logged on to say I'd figured it out. It finally dawned on me that 10 months ago i'd noticed (or heard or something) that you didn't need the active sync connection going if you entered bootloader first.
Fantastic. Many thanks.
Just in case someone reads this trying to do the same thing: I saw elsewhere that you need to run imcoke.41 before reflashing with stock ROM so that's what I did.
Correct?
I think you need to run the .40 unlocker, not the .41
.40 is supposed to be overwritable, .41 is not
I've been using .40 before I send back my phones. When I flash the VZW ROM it usually errors out the first time, then you follow the instructions on the screen(pc) and it takes the second time.
scotttr said:
I think you need to run the .40 unlocker, not the .41
.40 is supposed to be overwritable, .41 is not
I've been using .40 before I send back my phones. When I flash the VZW ROM it usually errors out the first time, then you follow the instructions on the screen(pc) and it takes the second time.
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You're right. I'm hoping it was .40 that I used and just wrote .41 here. Regardless, I already sent it off.

[Q] Upgrading from CM6 to CM7 w/o a functioning power button

Hi,
A couple of months ago my power button completely stopped working on my Nexus One. After a bit of googling I saw this was a common problem for some users.
I worked around this problem by using the Trackball Wake feature in CM6 and when I actually need to turn on the device I use the "battery in & out while plugged in" hack.
I want to upgrade to CM7 and as usual I'll have to do a complete wipe. This will cause the "trackball wake" feature to go back to default which as I recall is off.
I'm also worried about various problems during the install that would require me to boot back into the bootloader which is impossible w/o a power button...
Any suggestions?
(Except "get a new phone". I'm in Israel and new phones here ain't cheap. a Nexus S for instance costs about 1000$ off contract.)
Thanks.
1) Buy a new power button board from eBay and fix the phone / give the phone to someone to fix.
2) Talk to HTC customer service in US (or where you bought the Nexus - I guess from Google?), open a ticket, ask for replacement phone, open account in advance on www.usaddress.com or such, give them the usaddress account address, send them the phone marked with your ticket number and S/N, document yourself sending the phone, wait till you get the phone by mail.
There is nothing much you can do. If you get your ROM to crash before ADB daemon starts running, you won't be able to get to recovery - and bootloader won't help you.
P.S. Don't upgrade to CM7 just yet. It's not nearly stable enough, and it causes most launchers to crawl.
There is a button to reboot into recovery directly on cm6
Booker-T said:
There is a button to reboot into recovery directly on cm6
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He's talking about a case of FAILED installation.
I don't see how you can't do it, but in a very rare case, yes it could end up bad.
Just make sure you check md5, and most people have upgrade w/o wiping anything at all. Even if you do wipe it, just flash everything and the first time that you boot up, go straight to enable trackball wake.
You can get into fastboot no problem, and from fastboot you can boot into recovery:
fastboot boot recovery.img
(or whatever your recover file is named)
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Yes, if he's fastboot-oem-unlocked, then it's a possibility.
Thanks a lot!
Fixing the power button is too much messing with hardware for me, and fixing it costs about 80$..
What I'm basically getting is that in the ****ti case I do have some error during installation I'm screwed but that it's a rare situation...
Would you risk it?
I'm seriously considering selling it (2nd hand hi-end phones go for about 400$ in Israel since buying a new one is much more expensive due to taxes) and having someone from my work bring me a new Nexus S (I work in a startup that also has an office in NY)
BTW, I called HTC regarding this problem and they've said that rooting / installing custom ROMs voided the warranty... Is that not the case?
Thanks.
If you ask me - CM7 is nowhere near completion state, and I kinda regret moving to it. Mostly because of launchers that don't support Gingerbread yet (both ADW and LauncherPro lag like hell with 7 screens), because of wonkiness (can be cured with Dewonkifier app, but still annoying), and because I need to compile it myself to get battery percentage. If you use GO Launcher or don't use many screens, don't mind installing Dewonkifier, and don't mind not having battery percentage - you can install it.
Read multiple threads about warranty on XDA. I've recently got my friend's phone exchanged, in exactly the same setup as you have (office in US).
You shouldn't need a power button using Clockwork recovery. Best method is to install Rom Manager. It will install the latest Clockwork 3.0.0.5 and allow you to download CM7 stable as well as GAPPS.
It is pretty fool-proof.
Later versions of Clockwork only use the trackball for selecting and use the back button; I think you can also use VOL+/- to go back also.
If you want to be safe, download several roms to your SD card. Perhaps CM6, CM7, and whatever else. That way if one rom fails, you have another option.
Clockwork also has the options to mount the SD card directly from the recovery menu, so you have the option of downloading roms on your PC and transfer them over to the phone.

[Q] G1 Test unit

Brief history. My wife has a G1 and apparently she has not been able to download apps for sometime now. When she took it to Tmobile for them to check out, they said,"you must have downloaded a corrupt app from the market, we're sorry, but we can't fix it. Meanwhile, she was not allowing me to root it, and possibly finding a solution. So now, we got her an HTC sensation, so I can have her phone to play with. My quest is to fix the phone to prove to my wife that I know more than your local Tmobile rep. With that being said,"What do I do?" JK I know where to start, I just wanted to know if there is any relationship between the G1 and this corrupt market issues as I spent most of my time in the Thunderbolt forum. Thanks in advance.
do you want to root it? or just wipe it out? you can do many different things.. not sure what the relation is with your market not working
ldrifta said:
do you want to root it? or just wipe it out? you can do many different things.. not sure what the relation is with your market not working
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Root and wipe, basically just make it right again and to show my wife the benefits of rooting. Before a complete wipe though, I would like to see if there is any validity to this "corrupt app" and "not fixable" statements made by Tmobile reps. My first roadblock seems to be the sim card, I don't have one, and can't find a way to root w/o it yet.
Options-
-Use my wife's current sim card (its a 4G sim now for her sensation, will it still work), but she would probably have a hissy and not let me use it
-Use my sim card from my Tbolt (which requires an unlock code)
-Find a way to root w/o a sim all-together
I am sure with a little more investigating, I'll find a way to make it work.
Why not just boot to recover and wipe?
Turn phone off.
Press and hold "HOME" button, press power button, keep holding home.
When it gets to the "!" screen, open keyboard, press ALT-L.
Then press ALT-W (W is for Wipe).
When finished, reboot.
dhkr234 said:
Why not just boot to recover and wipe?
Turn phone off.
Press and hold "HOME" button, press power button, keep holding home.
When it gets to the "!" screen, open keyboard, press ALT-L.
Then press ALT-W (W is for Wipe).
When finished, reboot.
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yes try that first!! see if you can get it to work... you will need her sim just for a second so you can get by the google sign in... than if you connect to wifi you can remove the sim, ad if you still want to root the device follow this guide here...
[Guide] (8-18-11) G1 How-to: Root, Un-Root & Everything in-between
you can do this whole guide pretty quick, and you only need to use your wife's sim card for 1 second... just to sign into google once you get to 1.5.. than you can give it back to her and do everything via wifi, let me know if you need some more help..
Done, finally! This might have been super simple for any of you to do, it took me a total of about 8 hrs to get where I am, which is successfully running cm5.0.8.
This process was made more difficult by not having an activated sim card, and not being connected to wi-fi to even set up google.
Using adb I found a way to bypass the google setup when you have an "expired" Tmobile sim card inserted, but to use adb I needed usb debugging enabled, and I finally figured that out.
Now to hopefully make this long story shorter, I am now flashing whatever rom I wish to run on a phone in which Tmobile said was not fixable.
The phone is, in fact, way better than any stock g1 could be.
The current rom runs great on it, (I aslo run cm7 on my Tbolt), and all market apps download and run correctly, to the contrary of what the Tmobile reps said.
Well, I guess I'm done. If nothing else, I said I could do it, and I did it.
Now maybe a little respect from my wife.
Well, the TMobile rep succeeded where it matters to their manager, they sold your wife a new phone!
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tronmech said:
Well, the TMobile rep succeeded where it matters to their manager, they sold your wife a new phone!
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Good one for them bad for you!!!
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