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I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?
dccxviii said:
I've been looking at the threads but so far I don't believe there's one that tells you what to do if you've actually installed the official OTA update?
I.e. I have an rooted 2.3.4 GT-I9023 with an unlocked bootloader. With no clockwork or anything, as to be honest the last time I used it (on my old HTC DHD) it made my phone unstable (the phone would sometimes boot up of its own accord and stop at the clockwork screen).
Does anyone know how to re-root the NS after it's installed the official OTA update without clockwork?
Thanks
Edit: Downloading the OTA update won't relock the boot-loader will it?
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You cannot get root back without a custom recovery. OTA will not relock the bootloader, you'll just lose root and custom recovery.
You need to flash custom recovery using fastboot, then flash superuser to get root back. There are plenty of guides in the stickies describing the process.
Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused
The superuser app checks to see if you have the latest superuser binary and will download and instalk it. Or download superuser from within rom manager.
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Ok..the binary update fails (because i don't have root) so it's chicken and egg as far as I can tell.
You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.
dccxviii said:
Ok, so i'm updated to 2.3.6 but of course have lost root (never had CWM to begin with on this phone). Anyone know where I can DL CWM (i'm assuming it needs to be flashed via platform-tools directory in the android sdk per normal) and the latest su file?
EDIT: nvm, I found the latest CWM and successful flashed (my method was correct). However I've not been able to find the latest superuser.zip to flash yet. Also, I don't know why ppl say to use the market as I don't see how that method can work. I've already got superuser installed from before I updated but that doesn't help me get root. Only flashing the zip from recovery (as I understand it) would. Which renders the market useless in this regard.
/confused
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You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.
albundy2010 said:
You where already told. Flash custom recovery via fastboot. Boot into it and flash su.zip Same way it was done prior to update to the ota. Same as it always was and will be.
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You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
irishrally said:
You can find superuser zip here:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?231-Superuser-2.3.6.3-17-June-2011&
3rd one down, efgh.
Flash in custom recovery.
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Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<
dccxviii said:
You've misunderstood what i'm after. Thanks for trying to help tho
Thanks! As far as I can tell you're the first with the link I was after the entire time.
EDIT: Bah, I get a signature verification error when applying the update >.<
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Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.
irishrally said:
Turn off signature verification in CWM and try again.
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Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*
dccxviii said:
Turns out that CWM got overwritten by stock android recovery. Re-flashing CWM and then flashing su did the trick. I'm rooted once more!
Thanks for your help kind sir!
Curious as to how to make CWM stick for next time tho *shrug*
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You're welcome.
If you stick with a stock ROM then recovery will reflash every time you reboot. To prevent this you can go to system>etc, and change the file install-recovery.init to something else like install-recovery.init.bak.
I am having some issues with an AOSP 4.3 rom. I would like to stay on 4.3 but with the complete stock rom directly from Google. Is it possible to have root on the ota stock 4.3 rom? I would rather be back on 4.2.2 stock/rooted than rooted 4.3 with too many glitches
Due to some security changes in 4.3 root won't survive an OTA. You'll need the stock recovery to update via OTA. Subsequently, you'll need a custom recovery to flash the latest version of SuperSU and have root again.
What's your current state?
Mercado_Negro said:
Due to some security changes in 4.3 root won't survive an OTA. You'll need the stock recovery to update via OTA. Subsequently, you'll need a custom recovery to flash the latest version of SuperSU and have root again.
What's your current state?
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I'm on a rooted 4.3 AOSP ROM with TWRP 2.6.0.0. Did a regular wipe while I was 4.2.2 before I flashed. Can you flash a custom recovery on unrooted ota 4.3?
patrickjaden said:
I'm on a rooted 4.3 AOSP ROM with TWRP 2.6.0.0. Did a regular wipe while I was 4.2.2 before I flashed. Can you flash a custom recovery on unrooted ota 4.3?
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yes. you dont need root for a custom recovery.
patrickjaden said:
I'm on a rooted 4.3 AOSP ROM with TWRP 2.6.0.0. Did a regular wipe while I was 4.2.2 before I flashed. Can you flash a custom recovery on unrooted ota 4.3?
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Yes, you can.
Did you also flash the latest bootloader and radio? That's important, specially the radio (to avoid compatibilities issues with ROMs).
Mercado_Negro said:
Due to some security changes in 4.3 root won't survive an OTA. You'll need the stock recovery to update via OTA. Subsequently, you'll need a custom recovery to flash the latest version of SuperSU and have root again.
What's your current state?
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Yes, you can.
Did you also flash the latest bootloader and radio? That's important, specially the radio (to avoid compatibilities issues with ROMs).
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No, that's probably why I'm having so many problems. Where can I find them? and can they be flashed in TWRP
twrp flashable. since youre on tmobile, the hybrid radios are good, thats if you want to use tmobiles lte http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227
patrickjaden said:
No, that's probably why I'm having so many problems. Where can I find them? and can they be flashed in TWRP
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simms22 said:
yes. you dont need root for a custom recovery.
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So theoretically if I revert to stock 4.2.2 I can update to the OTA, then flash a custom recovery (I assume I can do that via the toolkit?), then flash the root file, I'll be good? Do I need to relock my bootloader?
patrickjaden said:
No, that's probably why I'm having so many problems. Where can I find them? and can they be flashed in TWRP
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You can find them here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43528263
I'm not sure if these zip files are flashable, though.
I'd strongly suggest you to download Google's Factory Images from:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjwr66v
And extract both from there to be safe (bootloader and radio images).
You won't be able to flash these images from TWRP. In this case, you'll need to use fastboot commands to flash them (but it will be safer, in my opinion).
If you're not familiar with fastboot command lines and don't have the Android ADT Bundle either please let me know, I can walk you through.
[EDIT] I found another link for the radio (a.k.a. baseband) and bootloader. Here it is:
https://www.copy.com/s/JniBu/4.3 files (mako)
I'm 100% sure these are proper versions but since they're images you'll have to flash them via fastboot.
Mercado_Negro said:
You can find them here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43528263
I'm not sure if these zip files are flashable, though.
I'd strongly suggest you to download Google's Factory Images from:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjwr66v
And extract both from there to be safe (bootloader and radio images).
You won't be able to flash these images from TWRP. In this case, you'll need to use fastboot commands to flash them (but it will be safer, in my opinion).
If you're not familiar with fastboot command lines and don't have the Android ADT Bundle either please let me know, I can walk you through.
[EDIT] I found another link for the radio (a.k.a. baseband) and bootloader. Here it is:
https://www.copy.com/s/JniBu/4.3 files (mako)
I'm 100% sure these are proper versions but since they're images you'll have to flash them via fastboot.
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I've never really done fastboot before. Is this way easier than flashing stock 4.2.2 and going from there?
patrickjaden said:
I've never really done fastboot before. Is this way easier than flashing stock 4.2.2 and going from there?
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No, it's not easier at all but you'll learn a lot in the process which will surely help you a lot in the future if you run into problems.
It's up to you
Mercado_Negro said:
No, it's not easier at all but you'll learn a lot in the process which will surely help you a lot in the future if you run into problems.
It's up to you
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I kinda wanna revert to 4.2.2 and OTA update to 4.3 so I can be 100% stock. I don't know if I can trust the dev who's making this AOSP ROM. Does my bootloader need to be locked to update?
bootloader will need to be unlocked. thats easy, you dont need a toolkit, you wont learn anything that way. you will need to install fastboot to your computer. you boot into your bootloader, connect to your computer via usb, start fastboot, open a command window, type.. fastboot devices(this is to check if fastboot sees your device), then type.. fastboot oem unlock(then look at your n4 screen to press yes or no). this will unlock your bootloader. download your recovery to your computer, stick it into the same folder as fastboot(do this before you start), then type in the command window.. fastboot flash recovery recoveryname.img(this will flash your custom recovery). then, in the bootloader, press your volume keys to scroll to the word recovery, press your power button to boot into recovery.
patrickjaden said:
I kinda wanna revert to 4.2.2 and OTA update to 4.3 so I can be 100% stock. I don't know if I can trust the dev who's making this AOSP ROM. Does my bootloader need to be locked to update?
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No, you don't need a locked bootloader to update via OTA.
Out of curiosity, how are you going to revert to 4.2.2 if you've never used fastboot command lines? You're in an AOSP 4.3 ROM right now, with 4.2.2 bootloader and radio. Do you have a flashable 4.2.2? That's the only way I can see it happen (unless I'm missing something which is probable).
Mercado_Negro said:
No, it's not easier at all but you'll learn a lot in the process which will surely help you a lot in the future if you run into problems.
It's up to you
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Mercado_Negro said:
No, you don't need a locked bootloader to update via OTA.
Out of curiosity, how are you going to revert to 4.2.2 if you've never used fastboot command lines? You're in an AOSP 4.3 ROM right now, with 4.2.2 bootloader and radio. Do you have a flashable 4.2.2? That's the only way I can see it happen (unless I'm missing something which is probable).
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Could I use the toolkit/is it usable with 4.3? Or is there a way to flash the stock via recovery?
patrickjaden said:
Could I use the toolkit/is it usable with 4.3? Or is there a way to flash the stock via recovery?
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I'd never suggest any toolkit because you won't learn anything from it. I'm not sure how's current state of toolkits so I can't comment on their proper functioning with 4.3.
Mercado_Negro said:
I'd never suggest any toolkit because you won't learn anything from it. I'm not sure how's current state of toolkits so I can't comment on their proper functioning with 4.3.
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Okay, is there a 4.2.2 zip I can flash that will let me get the OTA?
patrickjaden said:
Okay, is there a 4.2.2 zip I can flash that will let me get the OTA?
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Sorry, I don't know if there's one.
is it possible to flash a hybrid radio onto stock 4.3?
patrickjaden said:
is it possible to flash a hybrid radio onto stock 4.3?
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Yes, it is. You can pretty much flash any baseband on stock or ROMs. The question is, is it worth it? It may work flawlessly but it could also cause issues. I'd do it but I'd keep my eyes on it if something goes wrong all of a sudden.
I'm fairly new to rooting and I just rooted my nexus 4 on 4.3. I was wondering if I would still get ota updates or have the option to flash the new version of android on to my phone. I'm on stock ROM and I have twrp. Also, if I do get ota updates or have the option to flash to the next version, dobi lose any app data, pictures,etc or do I just loose the root
androidpatel said:
I'm fairly new to rooting and I just rooted my nexus 4 on 4.3. I was wondering if I would still get ota updates or have the option to flash the new version of android on to my phone. I'm on stock ROM and I have twrp. Also, if I do get ota updates or have the option to flash to the next version, dobi lose any app data, pictures,etc or do I just loose the root
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Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
gasparzim said:
Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
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Is there a way to remove twrp without loosing any data(besides root) before the next offical update comes out?
androidpatel said:
Is there a way to remove twrp without loosing any data(besides root) before the next offical update comes out?
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Welcome to android and rooting your phone. Rest assured if a new version of android comes out it will be here just as fast as it will come to your phone. No need to worry about what may happen. Enjoy your rooted Nexus and try some enhanced stock options. Believe me the development in here will make you never miss a stock phone.
But to answer your question you can always use fastboot to obtain your factory recovery again but honestly its a much better world with custom recovery, kernel and enhanced stock rom... T9 missing from stock is a joke in my book
Edit: Also in the future its always good to google your question since I guarantee anything you can think of android related you probably was not the first. Your question is quite common and you may find answers from what others have said could be quite helpful to you
Take Care - welcome again
gasparzim said:
Someone said that root does not matter, but you'll get OTAs if you're on stock. BUT you'll get an error trying to install the update if you're using TWRP or CWM.
You will keep your data and files, but will lose root.
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I've used TWRP to flash every OTA update never had a problem. I also flash the SU zip right after so I don't lose root or my custom recovery
BLACKED OUT LTE N4
spaceman860 said:
I've used TWRP to flash every OTA update never had a problem. I also flash the SU zip right after so I don't lose root or my custom recovery
BLACKED OUT LTE N4
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You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
androidpatel said:
You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
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No you'll never loose anything with a OTA update. Super SU zip is how you get root find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
BLACKED OUT LTE N4
androidpatel said:
You didn't loose any app data or pictures when you flashed the OTA file? Also, what is an SU zip?
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Sounds like someone needs to start reading the wiki threads and basically taking their time and reading up on your phone, your root process and the issues and concerns of the N4. I would pull up google and start typing in your questions...
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
gosku26 said:
I have a rooted (no CWM changed) and unlocked Nexus 4 with JB 4.3.
I did not get the OTA yet and I wondered if it is because the phone is rooted. In addition, I read some problems with people who tried to update to 4.4 with rooted phones and are getting infinite bootloops.
Do I have to unroot my 4.3 for getting the OTA and achieving a successful installation?
Thank you all on advance
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I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
gbarayah said:
I am rooted and received the OTA notification yesterday. You 'SHOULD' be able to install if ALL you did was root. However, if you applied any mods that made changes to the system, the OTA will fail.
This is your best bet if you want to run 4.4. You'll need to install a custom recovery to flash the zip files. All the files and instructions are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527806
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Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
gosku26 said:
Will flashing the stock 4.4 wipe my data, or it is like getting the OTA, that I keep my settings...?
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Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
taodan said:
Why do you need OTA update when you can get the stock ROM in flashable zip file? All features are remain the same for stock ROM. Search and download it in the Development sections.
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I would like to keep my settings if it's possible.
gbarayah said:
Did you read the linked post?
First step after installing custom recovery is to wipe data/factory reset, so yes, you will lose your settings.
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What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
gosku26 said:
What I would like is to update to kitkat without losing my data.
I have the bootloader unlocked and the phone rooted, but when I go to recovery mode I get "No command" screen (is that normal?).
I was thinking of getting the phone unrooted, then update through the OTA, then root it again, just for making sure I don't break anything, but the "No command" screen does not look very good...
On the other hand, Would I lose my data if I "unroot" the phone?
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To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
gbarayah said:
To unroot, all you need to do is go into SuperSu, disable root, uninstall the app and then reboot the phone.
If all you have done is root the phone, and didn't modify anything else, then the OTA update 'SHOULD' install without a problem.
You can go to Android Police and download the OTA files and flash them via ADB, or you can just wait for the OTA to be pushed to your device.
If you decide to do it the manual way, there is one additional step you must take to ensure to keep your data I believe.
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Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
gosku26 said:
Thank you for your help gbarayah, I really appreciate it.
One last thing: I'm not pretty sure the only thing I modified was the rooting. I did not install any zip to modify my stock version, but there is something weird. I will explain:
At first I had 4.2.2, then I rooted and installed CWM. When 4.3 was released I got the OTA update correctly but I lost the root, so I rooted it again, this time without CWM.
Is the "No command" screen what is supposed to appear when I go to the recovery mode from fastboot menu? Or I would get a default recovery mode program?
If everything is right I will unroot for getting the OTA, but if not, I'm afraid I will have to flash CWM and the stock version, loosing my settings...
EDIT: Ok, I've just realized to get into stock system recovery I have to press VolUp and Power buttons once I'm in the 'No Command' screen, so I'm pretty sure I don't have problems installing the OTA update. Thank You!!!
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Glad I could help. In the future, as long as you don't modify the system by flashing any modifications, you should be able to get the OTA update to install. Root doesn't affect this, and if you're worried about it, you can always uninstall it.
I opted to update using the stock zip files that were posted above and it worked just fine for me.
Hi folks! I have a Galaxy S4 GPE, rooted and unlocked, but stock otherwise. When I try to run the OTA update for 4.4.3, the phone reboots into TeamWin recovery and appears to start installing. The install errors out though. Can I not install the OTA update because I'm rooted? If so, would reverting the rooting allow me to install? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
Install Stock recovery and then try again
Aamirx12 said:
Install Stock recovery and then try again
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Is there a thread on how to do that? I seem to remember when I installed this recovery tool to root the phone, it wiped everything. Is it going to do that again? Because I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time a new Android update comes out just to be rooted.
1337squirrel said:
Is there a thread on how to do that? I seem to remember when I installed this recovery tool to root the phone, it wiped everything. Is it going to do that again? Because I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time a new Android update comes out just to be rooted.
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Flash it via Odin or simply restore recovery from Nandroid backup..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477
this may help you..
1337squirrel said:
Hi folks! I have a Galaxy S4 GPE, rooted and unlocked, but stock otherwise. When I try to run the OTA update for 4.4.3, the phone reboots into TeamWin recovery and appears to start installing. The install errors out though. Can I not install the OTA update because I'm rooted? If so, would reverting the rooting allow me to install? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
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Follow this GUIDE (Method 1: Update Via Custom Recovery).
Joku1981 said:
Follow this GUIDE (Method 1: Update Via Custom Recovery).
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I went through that method, and it's essentially the same thing, except that I'm downloading the actual update file myself and not letting Android handle it. Needless to say it didn't work. I also updated my TWRP to 2.7.1.0 and tried; no luck. I also uninstalled SuperSU to see if removing root would help. It didn't.
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I went through that method, and it's essentially the same thing, except that I'm downloading the actual update file myself and not letting Android handle it. Needless to say it didn't work. I also updated my TWRP to 2.7.1.0 and tried; no luck. I also uninstalled SuperSU to see if removing root would help. It didn't.
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It's the problem of no read for be vague. It worked perfectly on the GPE of my sister. The update that appears in the website is ready for install it through custom recovery. Read all the guide: