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It has been suggested, that this thread is changed to show the apps, that heats up our phone.
The list is:
"Gangster - Miami Vindication" - Gameloft
"Google Earth" - Google
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Hello.
Have anybody noticed that the phone gets very hot, when running a few select apps - but not all apps???
I have played a lot of games on the phone, and almost all Gameloft games without any problems, and the phone don't get to hot - it do heat up, but nothing thats worth any thought.
But yesterday i downloaded "Gangster" from Gameloft, and started playing that game. After just 5 minutes the phone got so hot, that i had to shut it down, because i was afraid of something melting internally.
I have played the game a couple of times, with the same result - which had led to uninstalling the game, because i'm just to afraid to damage the phone.
I have no other apps, that gets the phone so hot - not even remotely warm, so i'm suspecting "Gangster" to be coded badly or something like that... i'm not charging the phone, while playing - so it must be the game, thats running the phone 100%, which lead to overheating.
Any thoughts on that, anyone???...
Do the SGS2 have some sort of protection inside, so i'm overreacting - or should i just play on, without being so afraid to damage the phone???
That happens exactly the same on mine..
Gangster game from Gameloft is heating too much our phones..
I find out that Google Earth, after a while and with the 3D buildings on, also heats a lot the phone..
It seems some/many apps are heating up this phone, and some users have reported S2 going bad due to this heat. It would be nice if we can maintain a list of such apps in this thread....it would help us all know which apps to use cautiously!!
It would be nice if the topic starter can change the heading to 'Apps that heat up S2' or something like that !!
angynagpal said:
It seems some/many apps are heating up this phone, and some users have reported S2 going bad due to this heat. It would be nice if we can maintain a list of such apps in this thread....it would help us all know which apps to use cautiously!!
It would be nice if the topic starter can change the heading to 'Apps that heat up S2' or something like that !!
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the only time my phone got that hot was when I was watching a longer flash stream in the browser. after a few minutes the (view from behind) left side of the camera became really hot so I quit the browser and left the phone alone until it settled itself.
Real football 2011 gameloft. Makes my touchscreen...untouchable!!
This is due software coding.. Some apps have both cores running at 100 % all the time..
Nice idea to list them all here and IF damage is possible to the device..
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This thread mentions a few more apps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114454
Some of the "hot" games mentioned over there:
Sky Force Reloaded
Hot Springs Story
Download battery monitor off the market and monitor the temperature while playing these games. I've played a game that heat the battery up to 48c for a few hours and no harm was done, so I believe it has to be even hotter to make the GS2 go bad. Charging it while playing also makes it 5-8c hotter than usual.
A few games that really heat up my phone was
- Gem Miner: Dig Deeper
- Medieval Castle Defense
- X Construction
- Retro Defense
- Hot Spring Story
"Hot" is relative.
Anything below 60°C is warm, hot starts at 61 °C ................
Hey, listen ! It´s a dual core proc working in there hard, that won´t work without getting hot !
Ever touched any navi in work ? It´s BOILING !
Get a Batt Meter and read temps: 48 °C is NOT hot it´s 11 °C warmer than the body temp ........................
Mine gets warm with 10 minutes and charging and leaving the screen on. Its my first day though. Haha. Ill get back to you guys although you probably already know more than I do.
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troed said:
"Hot" is relative.
Anything below 60°C is warm, hot starts at 61 °C ................
Hey, listen ! It´s a dual core proc working in there hard, that won´t work without getting hot !
Ever touched any navi in work ? It´s BOILING !
Get a Batt Meter and read temps: 48 °C is NOT hot it´s 11 °C warmer than the body temp ........................
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In a small device like this, it's pretty hot. Burns my hand, lol
i can play plants vs zombie or grave defense hd while charging for a long time and it gets warm not hot as expected
Robo defense on the other hand will make the phone very uncomfortable once it freezes up
zkyevolved said:
Mine gets warm with 10 minutes and charging and leaving the screen on. Its my first day though. Haha. Ill get back to you guys although you probably already know more than I do.
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I haven't had a single phone that didn't warm up when i plugged into be charged
Battery temperature meters are great, for telling you the temperature of the battery. When this phone generates heat it isn't coming from the battery.
I have only had one game cause any significant heating, Bonzai Blast. It also chewed through the battery quickly. Removing the game removed the problem.
I had the phone feel warm in my pocket once at idle. Later that day I found that the AP Mobile app had downloaded 270 Mb that morning even though I wasn't using the widget. I put the widget on my home screen, changed the settings to never update, then removed the widget. Hasn't been a problem since.
I switched my SGS II off but forgot it in the car cradle.....
When I came back it was almost melting ....
Quickly downloaded the app "mobile deep freezer" and now I can use the SGS II as ice cube for my drinks ...
......... ;-))
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great thread now I know which apps are causing this.. hoping for a fix
I notice mine gets hot where the camera is, and around the earpiece/top of the touchscreen when i'm browsing the internet without wifi, i.e, 3g or H.
Same here with the Gameloft HD games, screen is pretty much untouchable.
Stopwatch makes mine super hot.
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robo defense for about 30 mins makes the back near the camera quite warm, but i hear this is expected? once the screen got very hot, but not done it since...
I was charging my phone will in the backgorunf downlaoded a gameloft game, and i touch the phone and its so hot i cant touch it for more than 5 seconds. Is this normal, should I exchange it.
Definitely not normal if it should burn you, I've been doing a lot of background downloads while charging the unit barely warms up but there is a warmer feel but if its burning then definitely not normal.
Ok i guess im exaggerating, but literally I couldnt touch the back for more than five seocnds before it hurts.
I only have that problem if the screen is on and something is active. nothing abnormal hogging the cpu?
A lot of electronic chips have operating tempatures range of upto 90C. Since there is no fan or ventilation on the s2 all the excess heat comes through the plastic case. So when the CPU is work at full speed getting hot is quite normal.
So if it burns you like touching the side of a freshly boiled kettle, then that would be something to worry about.
That said it should not get that hot if you are not using the CPU heavily like when playing a game.
This only happend to me when I played dungeon defender. So I wont play that game anymore. But in overall it doesnt get that hot
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Did you try cracking an egg on the back of the phone , if it starts to sizzle give it a quick flip over easy
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Did you try cracking an egg on the back of the phone , if it starts to sizzle give it a quick flip over easy
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Now that is true multitasking!
Having been with 3 different S2's I can say that the heat profile on this phone has a VERY huge variance. The 2nd phone I had barely heat up playing any game and that includes dungeon defenders it was NOT any warmer than playing angry birds. Charging showed a battery temperature of something like 33-34c.
The 3rd phone I got charges to something lie 41-42c and runs significantly warmer even by just playing Dungeon hunter2 HD.
There was a mythical phone even that ran at 1.6Ghz overclocked and it ran cooler than stock, now that was some cool story!
I'll experience the same thing when playing live holdem poker... The temperature rise up to 49C..
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my phone went up to 60c while playing Dungeon defenders for 20minutes , and it doesnt restart, anyone know the temp threshold? and should i stop playing the game ? XD
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my phone went up to 60c while playing Dungeon defenders for 20minutes , and it doesnt restart, anyone know the temp threshold? and should i stop playing the game ? XD
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finally i solved this problem using tegrak to set cpu speed to 200 min : 800 max
no heat any more
but i need to ask is it safe to change it in games only and return it normal all other times ??
I remember trying Google Earth with 3D buildings for a few minutes.
Phone heated up and scared the hell out of me. Never going to run that again.
Hi!
When I using My shift (win7 home premium) it gets very hot! Is this normal? It don't turn off because the heat but I worried about this high temp. A guy who reviewed (saw on a portal) the shift says his model was not even warm.
Zsolt
zsohu said:
Hi!
When I using My shift (win7 home premium) it gets very hot! Is this normal? It don't turn off because the heat but I worried about this high temp. A guy who reviewed (saw on a portal) the shift says his model was not even warm.
Zsolt
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The reviewer was fibbing. My Shift gets very warm too after a while.
The heat is related to how much CPU you are using, so if you run any CPU intensive virus checker or background utility, that will cause extra heat. It's easy to check, just hit ctrl+alt+del and watch your performance meter. My Windows 7 running Outlook 2010 and Opera averages around 10% when I am not doing anything in this instance. Note the average will vary as the OS has to do things from time to time.
I opened up my shift, examined and i think it have a terrible thermal design! What is the use of the cooler?? There are no heatsinks just a big cover which collects all the heat. I think about some case modding to provide better cooling, or making that cover form copper and place a small fan to it.
Hi, its normal. But i would like to see better cooler in it. When I am laying on bed and and ventilator holes are closed shift often go shut down due to high temperatures. One way was undervolting cpu a gpu, which mean a little lower temperatures . But some line cooler or heatpipe will be better
normal?
I don't think thats normal. Had mine about 4 months. The 2nd month all of a sudden getting hot. Stopped by a sprint store then took it in back and did something not sure what unfortunately. Cool now. Barely warm after running bluetooth and winamp etc for 5 hours straight. I'm guessing it's whats running in the background.
well, it appears to be one of HTC weak points, even my wildfire has the same problem) best thing to do right novels put your shift somewhere there is enough ventilation:
Just got myself a Nexus 7 with 3G and Wifi about 3 weeks ago. Overall this is a great tablet and I love it. But playing games on this device will make it heats up quite abit on the back left bottom corner. I knw that every devices nowadays will heat up when playing games, surfing the web or even using mobile data.
And I was wondering, do any of you guys still play games on it when the device gets warm or in between warm or hot? I feel a lil disappointed because the Nexus 7's gaming experience and performance was good but the only downside is it gets warm in about 15 mins and and gets warmer at 30 mins of playing games ( high end games like Dead Trigger etc. ). And it's a pity that I cannot enjoy longer hours of gaming on this device ( which is 1 of the reasons I bought it ).
And also I wanted to ask, can anyone pls tell me how warm or hot is your device when playing games? What I mean was let's say I was playing a high end game and the temperature of the tablet is around 50 c. To me, I might feel that it's a little too hot but to others, they might feel that it's jus warm. Would greatly appreciate all of your answers and advises.
Thank you.
Well, to love something also means to accept it for what it is... So, show it some love... lol! Jokes aside...
It's perfectly normal for a device to heat up when it has to be at a higher clock speed to crunch high levels of data.
This happens to pc's all the time, we dont feel it cuz all the hardware is in a case being cooled by fans. Laptops too, try gaming with a macbook pro on your lap, i swear hard boiled eggs could come out by the end of it. lol! An ipad or even much inferior in performance tablets to the n7 do heat up. Nevertheless things are improving, nowadays processors are getting more power efficient which translates to less heat for the amout of processing power they have, which is much much more compared to the past. Mayb in the future we'll have something with the processing power of a mainframe but as cold as the n7 currently is, then mayb it can be downclocked and downvolted to levels where its as cold as a can of coke while retaining reasonable performance, but it wont happen today...
Yea, the n7 does get warm but if it really bothers you it can be solved if you use a thick sturdy case with it... I use it for that reason, also it seems to prevent screen lift in my case, not to mention protection against accidents =>
50°C isn't very hot, mine gets that hot during normal usage and it can go much higher.
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Well, to love something also means to accept it for what it is... So, show it some love... lol! Jokes aside...
It's perfectly normal for a device to heat up when it has to be at a higher clock speed to crunch high levels of data.
This happens to pc's all the time, we dont feel it cuz all the hardware is in a case being cooled by fans. Laptops too, try gaming with a macbook pro on your lap, i swear hard boiled eggs could come out by the end of it. lol! An ipad or even much inferior in performance tablets to the n7 do heat up. Nevertheless things are improving, nowadays processors are getting more power efficient which translates to less heat for the amout of processing power they have, which is much much more compared to the past. Mayb in the future we'll have something with the processing power of a mainframe but as cold as the n7 currently is, then mayb it can be downclocked and downvolted to levels where its as cold as a can of coke while retaining reasonable performance, but it wont happen today...
Yea, the n7 does get warm but if it really bothers you it can be solved if you use a thick sturdy case with it... I use it for that reason, also it seems to prevent screen lift in my case, not to mention protection against accidents =>
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LoL! Anyway, thank you so much for the reply and explaining. I'd never knew that the ipad would heat up too haha. Do you think I should underclock my device? Well, been trying to use a case but on the opposite side am afraid that the case would trap heat inside the device itself. But Im using it anyway lol... And I have to agree with you cases really do help alot in protection against accidents.
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50°C isn't very hot, mine gets that hot during normal usage and it can go much higher.
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I see. Mine would be about 45-50 c during daily use and gaming. But 1 thing I do notice is that the device is actually not warm at all when I stream and watch videos using the youtube app. Anyway, thanks!.
Ok, I searched the forum about this topic and didn't really find anything answering my questions. I'm currently coming from a Droid RAZR and it ran hot to say the least. I can't get a straight answer on this phone's operating temperatures and I'm trying to determine whether to put a thick case on or not(with almost no bezel, I'm paranoid it will break on first drop). From what I've read, about 60% of people aren't reporting very much heat. The other 40% say there is a huge problem and most have had to replace their phones thinking it was a defect.
When it came to my RAZR, at rest with a case on, battery temperature would sit at just under 87 F. Under heavy use, I've hit over 124 F. Without a case, 83 F, the highest I've hit is just under 117 F. Extremely significant when you can't remove the battery and swap it out. I believe that it led to it's premature failure. I want to avoid that with this phone.
Is anybody keeping track of their phone and battery temperatures?
What apps and/or widgits do you use?
What is the normal at rest temperature?
What is the heavy use temperature?
Thanks everyone. My phone gets here in a few days and I want to be ready with a case.
I don't keep track of it. However this phone does get really hot (uncomfortable to hold) when playing games. With Tpu cases this was less noticeable. But lately I installed skinomi stickers for back protector, and it always bother me when it gets hot this way.
That being said, normal uses such as Internet, music, YouTube, xda, camera.... The phone only becomes slightly warm.
-LG G2
I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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Ok, I searched the forum about this topic and didn't really find anything answering my questions. I'm currently coming from a Droid RAZR and it ran hot to say the least. I can't get a straight answer on this phone's operating temperatures and I'm trying to determine whether to put a thick case on or not(with almost no bezel, I'm paranoid it will break on first drop). From what I've read, about 60% of people aren't reporting very much heat. The other 40% say there is a huge problem and most have had to replace their phones thinking it was a defect.
When it came to my RAZR, at rest with a case on, battery temperature would sit at just under 87 F. Under heavy use, I've hit over 124 F. Without a case, 83 F, the highest I've hit is just under 117 F. Extremely significant when you can't remove the battery and swap it out. I believe that it led to it's premature failure. I want to avoid that with this phone.
Is anybody keeping track of their phone and battery temperatures?
What apps and/or widgits do you use?
What is the normal at rest temperature?
What is the heavy use temperature?
Thanks everyone. My phone gets here in a few days and I want to be ready with a case.
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Admittedly, I'm not a gamer but the only times I've felt the device get hot enough to register with the Incipio Feather case were: 1) after a wipe/flash, and all my apps were downloading again from the Play Store and 2) when wiping and the device was plugged into the wall charger (CPU temp was around 100 degrees) - other than these 2 instances, I've never felt heat thru my Feather case.
kcharng said:
I don't keep track of it. However this phone does get really hot (I'm looking for.comfortable to hold) when playing games. With Tpu cases this was less noticeable. But lately I installed skinomi stickers for back protector, and it always bother me when it gets hot this way.
That being said, normal uses such as Internet, music, YouTube, xda, camera.... The phone only becomes slightly warm.
-LG G2
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The case I had been using with the RAZR was a TPU hybrid. I also went to a skin because of the heat. I don't think I cando that with this phone. I'm too clumsy.
WhiteZero said:
I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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Exactly why I'm concerned.
giri0n said:
Admittedly, I'm not a gamer but the only times I've felt the device get hot enough to register with the Incipio Feather case were: 1) after a wipe/flash, and all my apps were downloading again from the Play Store and 2) when wiping and the device was plugged into the wall charger (CPU temp was around 100 degrees) - other than these 2 instances, I've never felt heat thru my Feather case.
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I was actually looking at getting the dual pro. Thanks for the feedback. Exactly the type I'm looking for.
Honestly i just replaced my phone due to overheating issues. It would literally shut down or restart just running the camera for too long. After reading some other reports in the forums I decided to send it in and get a replacement. My new one came in yesterday and absolutely no overheating issues. Even can run antutu without a reboot (my other G2 would reboot about 14% in). So from my experience there was a batch that had some thermal issues... I got mine the first day it came out. Loving this second one
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Honestly i just replaced my phone due to overheating issues. It would literally shut down or restart just running the camera for too long. After reading some other reports in the forums I decided to send it in and get a replacement. My new one came in yesterday and absolutely no overheating issues. Even can run antutu without a reboot (my other G2 would reboot about 14% in). So from my experience there was a batch that had some thermal issues... I got mine the first day it came out. Loving this second one
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Does anybody know if we can track manufacture/release date using the serial numbers?
I am using this case full time: http://goo.gl/0u05G5
I use Battery and CPU-Z to check battery temps. Even with over an hour of straight gaming, I have yet to see it get above 98F. I constanty run the screen at 80% brightness as well, as that can be a contributing factor. The games I have played this long with are Riptide GP and Madden 25.
You really cant feel any heat through this case, and hand temps are too subjective anyway.
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I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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yeah, especially while gaming.. and it's not the battery drain that concerns me, the heat is ridiculous for long term gaming..
and slapping a case would be good for your hand but not for your phone
plus there's not one manufacturer that make cases for heavy gaming yet..
i wonder what the case would look like if it was made for dissapating heat.. probably has a lot of thermal pipelines built in that would be awesome..
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I am using this case full time: http://goo.gl/0u05G5
I use Battery and CPU-Z to check battery temps. Even with over an hour of straight gaming, I have yet to see it get above 98F. I constanty run the screen at 80% brightness as well, as that can be a contributing factor. The games I have played this long with are Riptide GP and Madden 25.
You really cant feel any heat through this case, and hand temps are too subjective anyway.
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One thing I've noticed from people's screenshots is that the screen doesn't use that much battery. My RAZR would sometimes draw 46%. I'm sure that also contributed to the heat. smh.
atsfrnd said:
yeah, especially while gaming.. and it's not the battery drain that concerns me, the heat is ridiculous for long term gaming..
and slapping a case would be good for your hand but not for your phone
plus there's not one manufacturer that make cases for heavy gaming yet..
i wonder what the case would look like if it was made for dissapating heat.. probably has a lot of thermal pipelines built in that would be awesome..
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lol, I've actually thought about making a case like that, then I realized if there was a way to burn myself, I'd find it.
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I keep wondering why no one makes cases that help dissipate heat, for how hot modern phones get! If anything, most cases insulate the phone and make them get even hotter!
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I'm currently in the design step of a case that uses tubing to disperse heat at the top corners of the phone to cool it down and keep heat away from the hand.
If you'd like to give input shoot me a pm and we can discuss it further.
OnT: I very rarely pass 24c on mine, then again I never game on my phone either. Highest I've hit was 42c during some testing.
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Are you guys talking about battery temps or cpu temps?
Get the app CpuTemp from play store, it overlays cpu temp while you're doing whatever, enable only the top two options, enable overlay and start on boot.
Then get stability test app and run the first option at top, classic test.
Then report back here with your temp after you do the stress test for about 27 seconds. I hit 66c after 27 seconds.
Curious to see what everyone else hits.
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Are you guys talking about battery temps or cpu temps?
Get the app CpuTemp from play store, it overlays cpu temp while you're doing whatever, enable only the top two options, enable overlay and start on boot.
Then get stability test app and run the first option at top, classic test.
Then report back here with your temp after you do the stress test for about 27 seconds. I hit 66c after 27 seconds.
Curious to see what everyone else hits.
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Max temp i got is 60c
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my phone will sit around 40C idle and around 70C under heavy load.
using xposed module to show in notification bar
Is overheating an issue when wifi tethering? I want to use this thing for desktop PC games and downloads; does it overheat after hours and hours of intense wifi hotspot use?
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Is overheating an issue when wifi tethering? I want to use this thing for desktop PC games and downloads; does it overheat after hours and hours of intense wifi hotspot use?
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I have used it for a couple hours and it gets warm. Not warm enough for me to worry about checking the temperature.
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I have used it for a couple hours and it gets warm. Not warm enough for me to worry about checking the temperature.
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Thanks for your feedback. Would you say it was with heavy usage?
I have made the tests , and i get 72 °C after 1:20 secs running the standard test. About 35 °C in idle,and about 50-55 °C when i am using the phone for facebook,browser,youtube. Is this ok? (These are Cpu Temps).
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I have made the tests , and i get 72 °C after 1:20 secs running the standard test. About 35 °C in idle,and about 50-55 °C when i am using the phone for facebook,browser,youtube. Is this ok? (These are Cpu Temps).
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My G2 gets also around 55°C when using the phone normally (youtube, browser, etc.) and over 67-68°C while gaming. I think this is normal for a high frequency 4 cores CPU. Right?
Hey, I received my LG G2 yesterday and i've been experiencing cpu temperatures of:
42-48C being idle
52-59C during browsing, facebook, viber etc
62-64C when on youtube (after the first 5 seconds)
65C when on gps
As for the stress test after 1:20 and up to 20:00 it was around 72-74 C
The phone feels hot all the time though with no apparent reason.
Screen brightness is set to 30% all the time, 3g connection is off and I only keep Wi-fi on. I even tried turning off features like gestures, I don't know if it is of any relevance.
Of course I haven't trying gaming yet, since I'm not really interested in it, but I want my smartphone to be functional without burning up.
Should I return it and ask for a replacement? Or is it an issue with LG G2 or Snapdragon 800 generally? Will it be a waste of time?