Alright, so like many people, I tried to play Pokemon GO. I was playing for about 20 minutes on my break at work, and I noticed that as I was switching between it and other apps, my phone was getting pretty laggy and bogged down, to a point where the phone just froze for a minute, then when the screen turned off. I couldn't turn it on for a further minute or so. Eventually after a few minutes of this, the phone just crashed, Upon trying to restart it, it went to the odin screen, saying "mmc_read error", or something like that. I pulled out the battery and let it sit for a few minutes and tried again. It started to boot, but it was stuck on the phone's model splash screen for several minutes, which its never done before. After the phone finally got booted up, it would freeze often, and I would not be able to turn the screen back on for several minutes at a time. This has persisted all night, crashing and freezing for the remainder of my shift. After I got home I tried restarting it again, and the phone wouldn't turn on at all, so I again pulled the battery and let it sit for a while. I've done this a few times now.
Sorry it's a bit lengthy, but I tried to recreate the events of what's happened as best I could. If you need any other info just ask
I have uninstalled the game from my phone now, the phone is completely stock, no roms, not rooted. I do not recall it feeling too hot as if it had overheated
I really am not experienced with issues like this, and I really would not like to have to buy a new phone
Hmm, that error is supposedly of the EMMC failing, now you will be lucky if it was a one time incident. Now to be quite honest I don't think anyone could tell you that whether the problem will come back or not, and you can't do much anyway. I will say if the phone is running okay now, let it. Or if you are really unlucky then the problem will come back, the EMMC might fail permanently. But if you see one or two more reboot incidents like that, I think its fair to conclude that your phone is done mate.
Currently I can turn on the phone, but after I turn the screen off, it won't come back on again
Oh darn mate. You could try to wipe the phone completely from recovery (TWRP) and then flash the stock ROM. Now please don't blame me if the phone gets dead or something after that, cause my Note 3 died just few months back, and it took me a good couple of months to get over that fact. However one thing is for sure, if your emmc is supposed to fail, or motherboard, then it will no matter what.
Yesterday was listening to Pandora via headphones, and the phone reboot itself to the "device may be corrupt screen" when bootloader is unlocked. While rebooting, the screen shut off and now the phone is completely unresponsive. The phone was running the latest Pure Nexus Rom with a Substratum theme.
Similar experience for me just recently. Last Friday I was out doing Uber/Lyft and upon accepting a call in the Uber app my phone froze, shut off, and then bootlooped. I tried literally everything to restore my phone, including fastbooting a stock image but the phone continued to bootloop and then shut me out of TWRP. Have a refurbished one coming from Google today. Phone just nuked itself while running Benzo ROM, no clue why.
The only thing I recommend is calling Google and go thru their troubleshooting. When it doesn't work they'll send you a new one (you'll be charged for the device until you return yours) and start over. Crazy, I've never experienced anything like it.
Cheers and good luck.
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Similar experience for me just recently. Last Friday I was out doing Uber/Lyft and upon accepting a call in the Uber app my phone froze, shut off, and then bootlooped. I tried literally everything to restore my phone, including fastbooting a stock image but the phone continued to bootloop and then shut me out of TWRP. Have a refurbished one coming from Google today. Phone just nuked itself while running Benzo ROM, no clue why.
The only thing I recommend is calling Google and go thru their troubleshooting. When it doesn't work they'll send you a new one (you'll be charged for the device until you return yours) and start over. Crazy, I've never experienced anything like it.
Cheers and good luck.
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yea seems strange, unfortunately I'm unable to do anything with fastboot as mine won't even boot into anything.
This happened to me as well. Phone just booted when to the corrupt screen and died. Obviously freaked me out. I held the power button down for a very long time and it booted back up. Please try that. Phone has been fine since then.
Thats scary. It didnt give any warnings (unusually high temps, glitches, random reboots)? Neither of you flashed anything other than PN in the days/hours leading up to the complete shutdown?
Im a bit paranoid since Im running the same rom. But everythings ok here.
Hi there,
So my galaxy note 4 is having some serious problems for the last couple of days and it's really starting to bother me. I've tried doing everything I can find online so far but to no avail I've had no luck at all. Basically, my phone constantly keeps freezing and restarting. It will crash for quite a period of time then restart itself, crash and restart. It probably crashes and freezes about 80-90 times a day? More if I'm trying to use it of course (It also resets itself when not using it).
I've tried everything, bought a replacement (genuine) battery and not fixed it. Got to the point where I seen online about doing a factory reset so I backed everything up to my computer, started the factory reset and when I was going through the setup of logging into google and samsung account, it continues to crash and freeze all over again. (It crashed & restarted whilst retrieving my apps from google, thus I had to reinstall my apps again manually after I finally got it setup again).
To make matters worse, I cancelled the insurance cover last month and only a few days ago this started happening. I've not dropped the phone or damaged it in anyway, screen is completely perfect too. It just constantly crashes and restarts on it's own. Get a phone call and it crashes, using google maps, crash. It's beyond unusable now. I still have 4 months left of the contract before I'm due an upgrade and I really don't think it will last me that long.
Can someone PLEASE help? Suggestions would be so helpful!!!
Thank you!
P.S Phone isn't rooted, only using Nova Launcher prime.
Sounds like your battery is on its way out. Have you tried a new battery?
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tiguy99 said:
Sounds like your battery is on its way out. Have you tried a new battery?
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QCube said:
I've tried everything, bought a replacement (genuine) battery and not fixed it.
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Earlier in the week I had an error I've not seen before. Phone restarted and went to black screen sort of looking at a recovery screen with android logo and in the centre of the screen was the message
"Kernal Panic" with some information on the top. This only has happened the one time and hasn't happened since. Took the battery out and restarted again...
Try hardreset or flash via odin
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Try hardreset or flash via odin
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How do I go about doing either of these....
Still happening and it's driving me insane, It won't last me until the end of my contract (January)
Its rebooting 80-90 times in ONE day? Good god! Have the phone turned off then. Unnecessary pressure is being put on the phone mate!
Factory Reset isn't going to solve it anyway, its for tiny problems. Your system is somehow messed up badly.
Do what the above member said. Flash a stock ROM via Odin. But before that you need to completely wipe the phone. To completely wipe you need a custom recovery like TWRP. So flash it now, root the phone, then reboot into TWRP and use the Advanced Wipe section to wipe everything (external SD not needed), then reboot the phone in Download mode, and flash the latest stock ROM via Odin.
You are now part of a large group of us having the same issues. Several things have been tried. One thought is that the motherboard is faulty. Replacing it would be expensive. Download the app "wake lock" and set it to partial_wake_lock. Don't ask me why it works, but it does. Apparently the phone goes nuts when the screen tries to go off, the partial lock keeps it from crashing. That makes the phone usable, hopefully a permanent solution will become available. ;( The only time it goes nutty again is if the battery runs down and when I restart, the app is not running. Going back to the back and setting it to partial has allowed me to play games, etc for extended periods of time and no problems. It shouldn't be that way, and I really suspect the marshmallow update and then security update screwed it up, it was fine before that.
QCube said:
Hi there,
So my galaxy note 4 is having some serious problems for the last couple of days and it's really starting to bother me. I've tried doing everything I can find online so far but to no avail I've had no luck at all. Basically, my phone constantly keeps freezing and restarting. It will crash for quite a period of time then restart itself, crash and restart. It probably crashes and freezes about 80-90 times a day? More if I'm trying to use it of course (It also resets itself when not using it).
I've tried everything, bought a replacement (genuine) battery and not fixed it. Got to the point where I seen online about doing a factory reset so I backed everything up to my computer, started the factory reset and when I was going through the setup of logging into google and samsung account, it continues to crash and freeze all over again. (It crashed & restarted whilst retrieving my apps from google, thus I had to reinstall my apps again manually after I finally got it setup again).
To make matters worse, I cancelled the insurance cover last month and only a few days ago this started happening. I've not dropped the phone or damaged it in anyway, screen is completely perfect too. It just constantly crashes and restarts on it's own. Get a phone call and it crashes, using google maps, crash. It's beyond unusable now. I still have 4 months left of the contract before I'm due an upgrade and I really don't think it will last me that long.
Can someone PLEASE help? Suggestions would be so helpful!!!
Thank you!
P.S Phone isn't rooted, only using Nova Launcher prime.
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Which version is your note 4? verizon? att? tmobile? sprint? etc united states variant? other country? This helps find out if others that are having the same problem are on the same setup as you and more importantly tells me if I'm likely to have a problem with mine getting ready to come. :laugh:
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Its rebooting 80-90 times in ONE day? Good god! Have the phone turned off then. Unnecessary pressure is being put on the phone mate!
Factory Reset isn't going to solve it anyway, its for tiny problems. Your system is somehow messed up badly.
Do what the above member said. Flash a stock ROM via Odin. But before that you need to completely wipe the phone. To completely wipe you need a custom recovery like TWRP. So flash it now, root the phone, then reboot into TWRP and use the Advanced Wipe section to wipe everything (external SD not needed), then reboot the phone in Download mode, and flash the latest stock ROM via Odin.
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80-90 times in one day is probably being generous. I've not actually counted how many times it restarts but If I need to use my phone I can guarantee it will be restarting a couple of times. Driving using navigation *Crashes* Inbound phone call *Crashes* get text message *crashes* all followed by the phone restarting. Practically unusable.
phonepie said:
Which version is your note 4? verizon? att? tmobile? sprint? etc united states variant? other country? This helps find out if others that are having the same problem are on the same setup as you and more importantly tells me if I'm likely to have a problem with mine getting ready to come. :laugh:
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Vodafone UK - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 / SM-N910F running Android 6.0.1
grizzylemon said:
You are now part of a large group of us having the same issues. Several things have been tried. One thought is that the motherboard is faulty. Replacing it would be expensive. Download the app "wake lock" and set it to partial_wake_lock. Don't ask me why it works, but it does. Apparently the phone goes nuts when the screen tries to go off, the partial lock keeps it from crashing. That makes the phone usable, hopefully a permanent solution will become available. ;( The only time it goes nutty again is if the battery runs down and when I restart, the app is not running. Going back to the back and setting it to partial has allowed me to play games, etc for extended periods of time and no problems. It shouldn't be that way, and I really suspect the marshmallow update and then security update screwed it up, it was fine before that.
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I'm gonna give this a go and hopefully it'll help! Thanks for the advice. Funnily enough, for a couple of months the phone has been prevented from the screen going off. I get a text or a notification and the screen would stay on until I hit the power button to turn it back off. Get a text in the middle of the night and I'd wake up to a boiling hot phone the next day, almost too hot to even keep in the hands. This literally frustrated me beyond belief and had to get a new battery and all sorts of complications. Also you mention the android update which made me think, I NEVER had this issue before I installed the security update for 6.0.1 - I put my money on something really stupid that's sincerely knackered my phone for certain!
While upgrading a phone, especially for major upgrades like from LP to MM, OTA method should always be avoided. You MUST do a clean flash of the ROM, otherwise you are bound to have problems. 80% of time people complain because they didn't flash the ROM cleanly, so whatever you want to do now, do it, but if it doesn't solve it (very likely it won't), then kindly flash the ROM via Odin after a full wipe. And if even that doesn't solve it then its hardware.
QCube said:
80-90 times in one day is probably being generous. I've not actually counted how many times it restarts but If I need to use my phone I can guarantee it will be restarting a couple of times. Driving using navigation *Crashes* Inbound phone call *Crashes* get text message *crashes* all followed by the phone restarting. Practically unusable.
Vodafone UK - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 / SM-N910F running Android 6.0.1
I'm gonna give this a go and hopefully it'll help! Thanks for the advice. Funnily enough, for a couple of months the phone has been prevented from the screen going off. I get a text or a notification and the screen would stay on until I hit the power button to turn it back off. Get a text in the middle of the night and I'd wake up to a boiling hot phone the next day, almost too hot to even keep in the hands. This literally frustrated me beyond belief and had to get a new battery and all sorts of complications. Also you mention the android update which made me think, I NEVER had this issue before I installed the security update for 6.0.1 - I put my money on something really stupid that's sincerely knackered my phone for certain!
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Thanks for letting me know your version. Hopefully it wont affect mine since mine is US Verizon. But out of curiosity have you checked for even the slightest sticky button? I've had phones where a button started to get tacky and would cause it to keep the screen on or go on and off like what you're saying. May not even feel like a sticky button. Do they all click very responsive? or do any feel like they have a dull thud experience?
phonepie said:
Thanks for letting me know your version. Hopefully it wont affect mine since mine is US Verizon. But out of curiosity have you checked for even the slightest sticky button? I've had phones where a button started to get tacky and would cause it to keep the screen on or go on and off like what you're saying. May not even feel like a sticky button. Do they all click very responsive? or do any feel like they have a dull thud experience?
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The volume rocker and power button feel really loose but this isn't really something new. Something I have noticed is when I take the cover off the back, the battery barely stays in itself. If holding screen upwards and battery cover off then It doesn't hold the battery which made me possibly think that perhaps the battery does not situate properly and doesn't deliver enough power (or too much) but this was just one of my theories into why the hell my phone is acting this way.
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Forgot to add I'm running the security patch 01/08/2016
QCube said:
The volume rocker and power button feel really loose but this isn't really something new. Something I have noticed is when I take the cover off the back, the battery barely stays in itself. If holding screen upwards and battery cover off then It doesn't hold the battery which made me possibly think that perhaps the battery does not situate properly and doesn't deliver enough power (or too much) but this was just one of my theories into why the hell my phone is acting this way.
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Forgot to add I'm running the security patch 01/08/2016
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Are you able to wedge a folded small piece of paper between the bottom edge of the battery and the phone to make the battery fit tighter? I mean it's not good to have a loose battery. But I can't see how that would cause the screen to stay on. If anything I would think it would cause the phone to shut off or reboot.
QCube said:
80-90 times in one day is probably being generous. I've not actually counted how many times it restarts but If I need to use my phone I can guarantee it will be restarting a couple of times. Driving using navigation *Crashes* Inbound phone call *Crashes* get text message *crashes* all followed by the phone restarting. Practically unusable.
Vodafone UK - Samsung Galaxy Note 4 / SM-N910F running Android 6.0.1
I'm gonna give this a go and hopefully it'll help! Thanks for the advice. Funnily enough, for a couple of months the phone has been prevented from the screen going off. I get a text or a notification and the screen would stay on until I hit the power button to turn it back off. Get a text in the middle of the night and I'd wake up to a boiling hot phone the next day, almost too hot to even keep in the hands. This literally frustrated me beyond belief and had to get a new battery and all sorts of complications. Also you mention the android update which made me think, I NEVER had this issue before I installed the security update for 6.0.1 - I put my money on something really stupid that's sincerely knackered my phone for certain!
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Let me know how it goes. There are other threads about same issue. Most of us have tried reflashing, wiping everything, custom roms, going back to stock, trying to downgrade, taking out the sim card, taking out the sd card, not having both in at same time, brand new battery, I think even putting the battery in the freezer momentarily, etc. etc. Nobody seems to have had any real luck with it, except those who were under warranty and got a new phone, or are capable and wiling to exchange some hardware. I just find it odd that it happened all of a sudden after updates and recently to many people.. Still, I keep coming here hoping someone will have great news. Mine started with marshmallow, but definitely got worse with the security update.
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Let me know how it goes. There are other threads about same issue. Most of us have tried reflashing, wiping everything, custom roms, going back to stock, trying to downgrade, taking out the sim card, taking out the sd card, not having both in at same time, brand new battery, I think even putting the battery in the freezer momentarily, etc. etc. Nobody seems to have had any real luck with it, except those who were under warranty and got a new phone, or are capable and wiling to exchange some hardware. I just find it odd that it happened all of a sudden after updates and recently to many people.. Still, I keep coming here hoping someone will have great news. Mine started with marshmallow, but definitely got worse with the security update.
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why don't you reflash you device with supported PIT file and stock F.W ?
QCube said:
Hi there,
So my galaxy note 4 is having some serious problems for the last couple of days and it's really starting to bother me. I've tried doing everything I can find online so far but to no avail I've had no luck at all. Basically, my phone constantly keeps freezing and restarting. It will crash for quite a period of time then restart itself, crash and restart. It probably crashes and freezes about 80-90 times a day? More if I'm trying to use it of course (It also resets itself when not using it).
I've tried everything, bought a replacement (genuine) battery and not fixed it. Got to the point where I seen online about doing a factory reset so I backed everything up to my computer, started the factory reset and when I was going through the setup of logging into google and samsung account, it continues to crash and freeze all over again. (It crashed & restarted whilst retrieving my apps from google, thus I had to reinstall my apps again manually after I finally got it setup again).
To make matters worse, I cancelled the insurance cover last month and only a few days ago this started happening. I've not dropped the phone or damaged it in anyway, screen is completely perfect too. It just constantly crashes and restarts on it's own. Get a phone call and it crashes, using google maps, crash. It's beyond unusable now. I still have 4 months left of the contract before I'm due an upgrade and I really don't think it will last me that long.
Can someone PLEASE help? Suggestions would be so helpful!!!
Thank you!
P.S Phone isn't rooted, only using Nova Launcher prime.
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Aside from the previously proposed wake lock solution, members in the T-Mobile Note 4 threads have experienced limited success with a downgrade to LP from MM.
From my reading, these issues seem to be common across all Snapdragon models, not to say it Exynos is excluded (I don't frequent Exynos threads).
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why don't you reflash you device with supported PIT file and stock F.W ?
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I tried that and it didn't work for me. The only surefire solution is a replacement device, but even then there's no guarantee the device won't start acting up in the future.
pls help stuck in download mode
this is the issue I'm getting...I did a complete data wipe using twrp...now stuck on this screen...cant even push files...device not recognized in adb or fastboot mode....
what to do...??
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Well a new motherboard was the only thing that fixed it for me, replaced under the 2 year warranty but I had to wait a while for parts. What is interesting is that the phone is much faster, the battery life much better than when it was new. Also it now barely gets warm using google maps - before it got quite hot. It would be very interesting to find out what percentage of Note 4's have been going down with is problem - mine was a fairly early one - was Samsung rushing to beat Apple two years ago and a bad batch of parts used? I don't know -we need some answers on what is the problem to be sure.
Just a personal experience and thus advice, please don't keep flashing bunch of stuffs every other day. The more your eMMC gets used more chance of your phone getting messed up. This is how my Note 3 died, kept flashing this and that, and did the same on Note 4 too, but have now stopped. I don't know whether there's an endurance rating on these eMMCs used or not but this is what I think, I could be wrong, please quote me in that case.
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Well a new motherboard was the only thing that fixed it for me, replaced under the 2 year warranty but I had to wait a while for parts. What is interesting is that the phone is much faster, the battery life much better than when it was new. Also it now barely gets warm using google maps - before it got quite hot. It would be very interesting to find out what percentage of Note 4's have been going down with is problem - mine was a fairly early one - was Samsung rushing to beat Apple two years ago and a bad batch of parts used? I don't know -we need some answers on what is the problem to be sure.
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Wow, that sounds promising. I'm sending mine for replacement, and although I'm not getting a new MB installed, hopefully the incoming unit will be similar in performance to yours.
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Just a personal experience and thus advice, please don't keep flashing bunch of stuffs every other day. The more your eMMC gets used more chance of your phone getting messed up. This is how my Note 3 died, kept flashing this and that, and did the same on Note 4 too, but have now stopped. I don't know whether there's an endurance rating on these eMMCs used or not but this is what I think, I could be wrong, please quote me in that case.
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Your reasoning sounds plausible, but my phone suffered similar issues and I only flashed my unit 2-3 times in the 14 months I had it.
So... For no explainable reason my phone has gone into a bootloop, simply from me attempting to restart the phone.
Details of anything I can think of that might be related are below. I need a genius to help me A) figure out WHY this happend, B) help me figure out if there is a way to (non-destructively) get out of this bootloop (i.e. NOT having to do a factory reset), and / or C) tell me if there is a way that I can perform a full system backup using ADB, Fastboot or Odin with a phone that can't get past recovery or bootloader without going into an endless bootloop. I'm not a lazy guy and normally take the time to research problems and figure them out on my own, however at present this is my only activated phone, it's almost 11pm, I have to be up and out the door at 6am tomorrow, I will be judging competitions all day and will not have any opportunity to do anything about this until late tomorrow... In the meantime, I need a functioning PH1!!
My PH1 is the Sprint variant and I have not rooted it nor have I unlocked the bootloader. The only thing I have "done" to the phone is to sideload the latest OTA, NMJ32F (the day it came out, over a week ago, and it's functioned perfectly since that update). My phone has been in use throughout the day today with no difficulties. I went into a building with very spotty service for several hours this evening. On the way home, I noticed that I was stuck in 3G service, despite being in an area I know has good 4G/LTE coverage. I also noticed an unidentified icon on the status bar, a rectangle, which was located (I believe) to the right of the battery icon. It looked like a rectangle, perhaps representing a screen, or a phone? IDK. The other item of note is that I did sign into the guest account on my phone so that my daughter could use the stopwatch for timing competetion events without tampering with anything. She didn't drop it or get it wet or anything along those lines... she used it to time events, returned it to me in perfect shape. I logged out of the guest account, back into my account, rebooted to try to get the phone back into 4G service, and boom, I'm stuck in a frigging bootloop for no apparent reason.... And I'm about to lose my mind over this.
I CAN get into download mode and into recovery mode by holding the appropriate button combinations when it loops, but from there whether I power off and power on again or whether I select reboot from recovery menu, it continues to loop...
Well folks, still strange, still unexplained, but I had to bite the bullet and factory reset, just can't afford to wait. I'm still open to any thoughts on what might have gone wrong though I suspect we'll never know. This phone has been a bit buggy from day 1, things like BT randomly shutting off, VoLTE wouldn't stay enabled, etc... Hopefully this is the last time this happens. Still love the phone though!
So I am running O beta rooted and last night this happened to me. I ended up going into fastboot and starting OS through there and I had no issue with the reboot bootloop. However, last night I went to bed with a phone @ 75-80% and woke up 6 hours later with a dead phone. Charged and rebooted this morn and everything seemed normal today. It was super wierd
Had to return mine for this very reason. Less than a week in service and went into boot loop. The reboot happened after it lost all battery power (corrupt filesystem?). Several factory resets did nothing to fix it. Removed the SIM. The phone was also fully charged. Did not try ADB as it was brand new and a return was the safest easiest option.
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Well folks, still strange, still unexplained, but I had to bite the bullet and factory reset, just can't afford to wait. I'm still open to any thoughts on what might have gone wrong though I suspect we'll never know. This phone has been a bit buggy from day 1, things like BT randomly shutting off, VoLTE wouldn't stay enabled, etc... Hopefully this is the last time this happens. Still love the phone though!
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Any issues since factory resetting? I'm having the same issue. Not sure if i should just return the phone or not.
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Any issues since factory resetting? I'm having the same issue. Not sure if i should just return the phone or not.
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I am stuck with the same problem, and this is my second phone already. This one doesn't stay on long enough even for an attempt to factory reset. I will send it back again, but I have no hope. Time to cut my losses and move on. Going to Pixel. And I sooo wanted Essential to succeed!
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I am stuck with the same problem, and this is my second phone already. This one doesn't stay on long enough even for an attempt to factory reset. I will send it back again, but I have no hope. Time to cut my losses and move on. Going to Pixel. And I sooo wanted Essential to succeed!
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interesting.
If it's your second phone, have you looked at what applications you install?
The probability of getting two bad phones is pretty slim unless there is a major manufacturing flaw.
Not saying it can't happen, but it would be unusual.
Could it be due to Encrypted Data partition?
It once happened to me on a Huawei Mate 2 which I encrypted data and battery dead, then bootloop.
If that's due to corrupt encrypted partition, there seems only other recovery mode can help you get some files back.