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Most games are stuttering - Jelly Bean bug?

I have Galaxy Note (ICS) and I played some 3D heavy graphics games with this phone with zero or minimal stuttering. However, when I play most of the same game in my N7, they stutter heavily.
Games I tried:
- Gears & Guts (worst stutter)
- Dead Trigger (bad stutter)
- The Dark Knight Rises (worst stutter)
- Shadow Gun (minimal stutter)
I have NOT installed any background systems apps that takes a lot of resources to create this stuttering.
I am wondering if anyone experiences the same problem or if this just my tablet. I already did a hard reset twice and same problem persists.

Dead Trigger is the only one of those i have played and it seems to run ok but I have read A lot of comments from people in the play store saying the N7 is lagging or stuttering
Just out of interest, are you using any of the home screen rotation apps (rotation locker, ultimate rotation control etc)?

Lots of rumors that Apple are behind a HUGE campaign to try and discredit the Nexus7 in whatever way they can, which I guess means forum posts here, Play store comments claiming about lag and stuff.
I havn't seen any of this, and my Nexus7 is perfect. I think people need to make up thier own mind, rather than being influenced by Apple viral marketing campaigns.

I'm not getting any stuttering in games on mine, I played Asphalt 7 and Dead Trigger today and both played smooth and fast.

californiarailroader said:
I'm not getting any stuttering in games on mine, I played Asphalt 7 and Dead Trigger today and both played smooth and fast.
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Same here. Games play flawless. Now if you have an older version of the app called rotation control, its a known fact THST app caused games to stutter. They just recently updated their app to fix this. Even says in their changelog that it was causing gaming/videonstuttering on nexus 7. With the new update for that app, they fixed it.

I have the Dark Knight Rises on mine and it plays with very minimal lag (stutter), not sure why others say its terrible as it just really hasn't been for me at all.

I had this. Rebooted it and it's not happened since

demandarin said:
Same here. Games play flawless. Now if you have an older version of the app called rotation control, its a known fact THST app caused games to stutter. They just recently updated their app to fix this. Even says in their changelog that it was causing gaming/videonstuttering on nexus 7. With the new update for that app, they fixed it.
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I just downloaded that tonight too, I guess I got the updated version.

lanwarrior said:
I have Galaxy Note (ICS) and I played some 3D heavy graphics games with this phone with zero or minimal stuttering. However, when I play most of the same game in my N7, they stutter heavily.
Games I tried:
- Gears & Guts (worst stutter)
- Dead Trigger (bad stutter)
- The Dark Knight Rises (worst stutter)
- Shadow Gun (minimal stutter)
I have NOT installed any background systems apps that takes a lot of resources to create this stuttering.
I am wondering if anyone experiences the same problem or if this just my tablet. I already did a hard reset twice and same problem persists.
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I have The Dark Knight Rises. I dont see the lag. Works fine.

from my experience, lag and stutter is purely opinionated.
i come from a PC gaming background, and i cant stand anything less than 60fps, which is why my beast is watercooled.
some games on the nexus 7 dont stay above 60fps all the time, but they run consistently more smoothly compared to on my galaxy note with factory ICS (not rooted).
however, one thing you might not be used to is the difference in screens. amoled has a very low response time (less than 1ms black to black in some applications), but IPS panels have a longer response time (6.5ms grey to grey and around 16ms black to black). to people who are sensitive to it, this can make it look like its lagging a little or ghosting. it improves a bit once the device is warm, but not by much. run a benchmark and see if the fps is similar to your note, if it is, then its mainly the difference in response time that you are perceiving as stutter.

samueljohanson said:
I have The Dark Knight Rises. I dont see the lag. Works fine.
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The same here with Dark Knight Rises.

Don't play a lot of games but what I have loaded plays perfectly fine on the N7. I also have a Galaxy Note, I have the game Sleepy Jack which consistently slows down to almost a halt when a lot is happening on the screen. On my N7 it just doesn't happen at all, plays beautifully smooth. I loaded Dead Trigger after reading this post even though its not my preferred type of game & don't see any lag. Riptide GP is glorious but gets a bit boring.
In fact gaming on the N7 is a pleasure compared to the GNote (laggy, colour banding, black crush issue in dark scenes).

I'm running hotw1r3s cm10 on my note, I loaded up the games you posted on my nexus and my note, and got zero lag on either.my nexus is rooted stock
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I have been playing Dead Trigger since I got my N7 on the highest settings available with no lag what so ever. I do a lot of gaming and can tell if there is "Stuttering" and let me tell you, this tablet doesn't stutter.

Well something is very strange then - if people are saying there is no frame rate issues with some of those games..
From personal experience -
Asphalt 7 drops frames all over the shop - compared to it running on a phone [it's only really smooth in the replay after the race]
Batman - does stutter if you pan the camera while moving - or in combat - or moving at speed - and the over all frame rate is low
On iphone Asphalt is very smooth - the iPad version is like butter..
I have not purchased Batman on the iPad - however reports are it's also very smooth..
I think it's a combination of things - I can see that some people may not notice - if coming from other tablets or lower spec phones.
But those two games are deff not optimised for either jelly bean or the nexus 7..
Dead Trigger - plays great - so I know it's not my tablet..

shadeygeezer said:
Well something is very strange then - if people are saying there is no frame rate issues with some of those games..
From personal experience -
Asphalt 7 drops frames all over the shop - compared to it running on a phone [it's only really smooth in the replay after the race]
Batman - does stutter if you pan the camera while moving - or in combat - or moving at speed - and the over all frame rate is low
On iphone Asphalt is very smooth - the iPad version is like butter..
I have not purchased Batman on the iPad - however reports are it's also very smooth..
I think it's a combination of things - I can see that some people may not notice - if coming from other tablets or lower spec phones.
But those two games are deff not optimised for either jelly bean or the nexus 7..
Dead Trigger - plays great - so I know it's not my tablet..
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That's weird, because I just played a long session of Asphalt 7 last night on my Nexus 7 and it played as smooth as butter, the same goes for The Dark Knight Rises. I wonder if there is a program on your Nexus 7 that is causing those issues.

californiarailroader said:
That's weird, because I just played a long session of Asphalt 7 last night on my Nexus 7 and it played as smooth as butter, the same goes for The Dark Knight Rises. I wonder if there is a program on your Nexus 7 that is causing those issues.
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Well if there is - it's one of the stock ones
I only have paper land pro installed - and I bought that after the games - and noticed the low frame rate before it.
it's very odd if theres a app causing it - that Asphalt 7 looks great on the replay..
Asphalt 7 also has bad texture loading - you get weird textures that flicker as the texture loads in.. [which others have reported]
dead trigger plays great - MC3 - fine - Dark Meadows - fine
Maybe it's something silly - like 8GB tablets have faster storage memory than the 16GB [to save cost on the 16GB]
But then you have a 16?
Noticed yours is rooted though - might have something to do with it also - mines stock
it's not a really low frame rate - but compared to it running on other devices - SG3 / iPad for example - it's really noticeable.

shadeygeezer said:
Well if there is - it's one of the stock ones
I only have paper land pro installed - and I bought that after the games - and noticed the low frame rate before it.
it's very odd if theres a app causing it - that Asphalt 7 looks great on the replay..
Asphalt 7 also has bad texture loading - you get black textures that flicker as the texture loads in.. [which others have reported]
dead trigger plays great - MC3 - fine - Dark Meadows - fine
Maybe it's something silly - like 8GB tablets have faster storage memory than the 16GB [to save cost on the 16GB]
I have a 16GB - what do you have?
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I have a 16 GB version too. Have you tried doing a factory reset? If that doesn't work, you might check into getting Google to send you another one out, it could just be defective.

californiarailroader said:
I have a 16 GB version too. Have you tried doing a factory reset? If that doesn't work, you might check into getting Google to send you another one out, it could just be defective.
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I did a reset - I did that since I was sending it back due to screen lift [which I then fixed] - reset didn't help.
Also redownloaded in case it was a 'bad' install - still same.
Noticed yours is rooted though - so maybe something to do with it?
All other games run perfectly - so cant see it being a hardware issue - MC3 / Dead Trigger / Dark Meadows and even the Tegra 3 demo 'Glowball' all ruin great
There's an ongoing thread about Asphalt 7 on both here and the gameloft forum - some have found altering the XML device file in the game - making it think it's running on a phone - think it's a SG3 - makes it look a lot better - less bright tracks, better overall 'look' the Nexus version can look really bad when compared to the phone version..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797247
frame rate is still poor though.
The game just does not run well /look good on the Tegra 3 tablets when compared to other Android devices.
And compared to the iPhone / iPad versions - this looks like it's really struggling at some points.

Guys, notice something? The games you are saying look and run great are Tegra 3 optimized. The others are Gameloft games. It is Gameloft's issue for not optimizing their ports, I mean, games.
Will either have to petition them to optimize the games or don't play them. There's another thread about someone digging into the code in Asphalt 7 and seeing it was optimized for the S3 and not N7. They used a hacked APK and used the same settings for S3 and it became noticeably better.
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Anyone getting asphalt 8 on their droid razr m

If so share the experience if their any lags or great performance would be gladly appreciated.
Team DROID

I've got Asphalt 8 on my M running CM10.1
I do see some occasional frame skips when using max graphical settings, but medium settings provide a great visual and gameplay experience. I actually prefer playing this on my XT907 compared to a Nexus 7.
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A thread I have much interest in! Yea I have Asphalt 8 and it is a bit framey on high but not enough to impede playing. Running Eclipse V5b3 w/ arrrghhh kernel at 1.89/96 Smartassv2 sio.
Only game I get the mad drops/skips fps is Nova 3. Wish it had some graphical settings because that game is BOSS, with the exception of the controller lag using MOGA Pro.
Speaking of which, anyone with a MOGA Pro and Asphalt 8 notice that the steering is way too tight compared to the tilt controls? I can throw my cars around sideways without drift using the tilt but with my MOGA Pro its near impossible to make the slightest turns even at full sensitivity and the stick all the way left or right. Even the d-pad doesn't turn well. You'd thing the controller would be easier to use but...

Anyone playing clash of clans?

I'm planning to buy this tablet specifically for playing this game. Does anyone else play it on this device? How does it run?
I bought an Asus MeMO Pad 7 and the game is very choppy. Not unplayable, but not like on my note 3.
Will the tegra 3 processor handle it?

Very playable.
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consider something better
Well, actually it's not that good. Screen quality is quite bad, 1280x800 makes this game look ugly if you ever zoom in. So I'd recommend buying something with better display. Or at least try befory buying.
I'm playing CoC on Nexus 7 (2012). It's not bad, just not that good.. Oh, and it does lag a little on my device. It's quite old now, so maybe it's my particular device problem. But still, display is crappy.

Lags on games with my Nexus 6P

Hi guys, i've bought my nexus since april
I'm seeing some lags when i play on games that haven't got too much high graphics like Clash Royale and BBTAN but when i play on games that are "heavier" than BBTAN like Asphalt 8 and Mortal Combat X there aren't any lags.
Are you having the same problems that i have?

Me too ;(

Hello! It might be due to your wifi, you see, games like clash royal are very wifi based, while asphalt games do not use Wi-Fi.

ergys00 said:
Hi guys, i've bought my nexus since april
I'm seeing some lags when i play on games that haven't got too much high graphics like Clash Royale and BBTAN but when i play on games that are "heavier" than BBTAN like Asphalt 8 and Mortal Combat X there aren't any lags.
Are you having the same problems that i have?
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Clash lags for me regularly regardless of the strength of my WiFi connection. Seems to improve with a reboot.

No lag in clash royale using benzo Rom
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Hey Im having the same problems too BB-Tan seems to be dropping frames a lot, even though its not a game that requires data connection. Pokemon Go is choppy in the menus and my friend's one plus x is completely smooth. I have done extensive research regarding the Nexus 6P and its lag in graphically intensive games. No one seems to have found a solution, fix or even an explanation. Whereas there are tons of people talking about how smooth their nexus 6p is in games... Any help is appreciated.

I play Order and Chaos 2 and it only starts lagging after playing a while and the phone has got hot. I'm using the developer preview of android N, everything on my phone is stock.
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Thermal throttling of Snapdragon 810 is the reason.

crash_194 said:
I play Order and Chaos 2 and it only starts lagging after playing a while and the phone has got hot. I'm using the developer preview of android N, everything on my phone is stock.
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Yeah, i play Clash Royale and when phone get hot, it starts lagging.
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Edit: Opps, posted question in wrong thread.
But while I'm in this one, I fixed my game lag in Clash of Clans by editing/replacing the thermal-engine.conf file in the /system/etc/ directory with one that allows the SoC to get a bit more toasty before it throttles at all. It does make my 6P a tad warmer from what I can tell through my thinnish case, but for the performance trade off, it's well worth.

Lags in games?

I've read people that say that G6 lags in games big time. Is it so? Is it not buy if I would want to have some fun in-between moments?

Billy Madison said:
I've read people that say that G6 lags in games big time. Is it so? Is it not buy if I would want to have some fun in-between moments?
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Did those said people say which games? Because I've been using my LG G6 for games too and haven't seen any lag what so ever. And I've played alot of graphic intensive games too as well as casual stuff
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Mchi5 said:
people say which games?
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Yes
namely zombie tsunami, goo saga, red ball evolved & lapsum

Billy Madison said:
Yes
namely zombie tsunami, goo saga, red ball evolved & lapsum
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Sorry never played those. But sports games like NBA 2k17, Fifa and Real Racing 3, which are all very graphic intensive plays with no lag
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Nope. No lag here either and i play some pretty intensive games.
Considering the games you listed are all just simple 2D games it should run them easy and battery is gonna last a long time.

No lag on: DB Dokkan Battle, Fire Emblem: Heroes, Summoner Wars, Pokémon Go and Tap Titans 2

WstrKuNoužč said:
Considering the games you listed are all just simple 2D games it should run them easy and battery is gonna last a long time.
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What if those games just can't see 18:9 and are hardcoded to run in 1280x720? And when stretched they stutter somehow?
another example is RR3 which throttles to 18fps often which is way too low for such powerful 821

Billy Madison said:
What if those games just can't see 18:9 and are hardcoded to run in 1280x720? And when stretched they stutter somehow?
another example is RR3 which throttles to 18fps often which is way too low for such powerful 821
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Well, you basically choose in which aspect ratio you wanna play games that don't support 18:9.
You can choose the usual default format 16:9 (with black left and right borders), optimized format 16.7:9 (with small left and right black borders) or 18:9 (fullscreen). It basically crops the games window to your liking. Really easy to set up and works like a charm.
Most games don't support 18:9 yet, only some new ones do, but i play pretty much all of them in 18:9 np. Performance is the same in either of those ratios, i'm pretty sure, as it only crops the image.
If a game is hard-coded to lower resolution then i'm pretty sure it plays at that resolution and doesn't up-sample. I've played a cpl of games hard-coded to 1080p and they actually still looked great despite running on a 1440p screen. You can still choose aspect ratio tho.

I've had no issues. So far I've played Pokeymanz Go, Magikrap Jump, Devil Twins, Sailor Drops, TriggerKnight, Dungeon Vilage, Game Dev Story, Ninja Village, Plague Inc, Infectonator, Tales of Link with no issues. The only time I've managed to make this thing stutter is when streaming music over BT and the phone switches back and forth between wifi and mobile data a couple times (this happens on my way home in the afternoon. It picks up my 802.11ac, then I whip around a corner and it drops it, whip back and it picks it back up).

I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx

teruhiko666 said:
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
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That's probably not weird considering it won't even install for me through Google Play. It's says it's not compatible with my phone.
Doesn't look like a demanding game so it's probably just not optimized.

They claim that in Mushroom Wars Space and Mushroom Wars 2 G6 is especially lagging. Could anyone prove this claim?

What about framed/2? they say G6 is snail laggish in this

teruhiko666 said:
I've played King's Raid on lg g6 and its lag pretty bad, i did change resolution , battery saver and graphic quality but still lag big time.
Can any of u guys give it a try?
But other similar games run very smooth which is strange.
Thx
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I play this game on my LG G6 and I can confirm that it does lag like CRAZY! Especially BD Raid DAMN!!! Feels like its gonna blow. But everything else is super smooth. Weird thing is my Note7 Exynos 8890 runs Kings Raid on max settings super smooth.

I have zero lags. But I have my G6 pretty much debloated and I always disable the, "Game Battery Saver" option. I think that option makes a difference.
But I mostly only play racing games and COD games.
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It seems it has problem with 2D games. My wife's G6 lags like crazy in Angry birds pop. I tried to force GPU rendering in developer settings, but didn't help. I even lowered game resolution in battery settings

No lag at all playing pes2018

Yes, it does lag, but only when charging and playing at full resolution. It also only charges at about 1000 miliamps when screen is on. Not a huge deal for me, but I do hope oreo update will fix this.

Mine has this weird thing where a game will be super smooth for about 5 seconds but goes choppy, then I have to pause and resume for it to go back to smooth for another 5s.
This mainly happens for me in RR3, Plague Inc, Beast Quest and a few others.
Must be a software issue as it's obviously capable enough hardware. Hope Oreo fixes this!
Can't deal with low frame rates!!
Anyone else had this issue?

For me every game is working quite well except Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes. Which I really like so it's quite annoying.