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Hi,
I noticed that ram usage on galaxy s4 is very high even when all of the apps are closed. I have used task manager to close all of the apps and then cleared the memory but there was still about 1.05GB of ram used. I don't know if this is normal since I haven't been using android phone for 2 years. Can somebody tell me if this is normal and why? If not what can I do to fix it? Thanks!
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its normal for s4... some stock apps are being cached in memory for faster operations
unused ram is wasted ram. If an app needs extra space, something will be automatically killed to make that space.
i.amtom said:
unused ram is wasted ram. If an app needs extra space, something will be automatically killed to make that space.
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all of this is true... also keep in mind, the gpu requires slightly more ram because of the 1080p resolution.
Ok. Thank you all for the help
This is the problem of Sammy ROMs, the only way to fix it is to... wait for a Custom ROM and Flash it
this is normal on SGS4 .
Reasons of that are mainly GPU and HQ resolution , cached services and process, and even more if you are using the included extra features (S-voice, NFC ...)
But the SGS4 come with 2 gb of RAM ! you still get like 800 free mb of memory that is good enough for all you needs ))
Personally when I close all apps i get 0.91 gb used memry and 0.9bg free memory
Hi,
I looked at my free ram and on daily use I have 1 GB of free ram.
So is there any sens to use ram manger to allow android use more ram (mean to not kill app and has less free ram)?
Unused RAM is wasted RAM (just before anyone else says it )
I have 1.3GB of RAM free on my N4. I wouldn't recommend a 3rd-party RAM manager, and just trust Android to handle it
Unrelated, but I have some weird memory leak issue on my N10 that basically causes all RAM to be taken up by something eventually, and all apps end up Restarting. Quite annoying, but the only thing I can do in this situation is reboot the tablet. Can't say I've seen or heard of this on the N4.
espionage724 said:
Unused RAM is wasted RAM (just before anyone else says it )
I have 1.3GB of RAM free on my N4. I wouldn't recommend a 3rd-party RAM manager, and just trust Android to handle it
Unrelated, but I have some weird memory leak issue on my N10 that basically causes all RAM to be taken up by something eventually, and all apps end up Restarting. Quite annoying, but the only thing I can do in this situation is reboot the tablet. Can't say I've seen or heard of this on the N4.
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i cant say i like the way android does it, even though it does do it. i use greenify, and autostarts to prevent apps from starting in the background. also, i change the numbers to androids ram management. now im happy
But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
atomic339 said:
But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
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ive never noticed that its slowed.
atomic339 said:
But greenify make some apps start slower, yes? (because they have to start again)
How you change the number of free ram?
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If you have widgets on your lock screen or on your home screen they will use up ram. Uninstall any apps you rarely use to free up ram.
Don't see why you're worried. You have as much FREE ram as an s3 does on the box
On a more serious note, I doubt you'll see any difference by freeing up ram. 500-600 mb of free ram = smooth experience generally
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I'm no expert, but what I've read on these forums, it's best to just let Android take care of it. Android has come pretty far with memory management, and third-party apps might just end up taking more RAM/battery.
You're wasting your time worrying about it.
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Johmama said:
I'm no expert, but what I've read on these forums, it's best to just let Android take care of it. Android has come pretty far with memory management, and third-party apps might just end up taking more RAM/battery.
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This is true, forget about ram manager and dont be paranoid about the free/used ram amout
Thanks for help, I will not use any ram manager etc.
Hello guys,
i can't understand where disappear 2Gb memory on SGS4 i9505. I use stock ROM, minimum one time per day i need clean memory through "active aplication" manager because phone unresponsive, it is same situation as on my old phone SGS1 I9000 (512mb RAM). Even all aplication cleared still used 1.2Gb RAM of 1.78Gb physically memory. This is normal or i need begin flash a lot of custom ROM's for find something useful that realy works??? What is better way?
Thanks in advance for answers.
speedfire said:
Hello guys,
i can't understand where disappear 2Gb memory on SGS4 i9505. I use stock ROM, minimum one time per day i need clean memory through "active aplication" manager because phone unresponsive, it is same situation as on my old phone SGS1 I9000 (512mb RAM). Even all aplication cleared still used 1.2Gb RAM of 1.78Gb physically memory. This is normal or i need begin flash a lot of custom ROM's for find something useful that realy works??? What is better way?
Thanks in advance for answers.
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Stock ROM is full of bloatware and stuff. This means you have a ****load of useless apps running in the background, and some useful ones too. You should root your phone, go to application manager and DISABLE all of the useless bloatware you never use (use caution though - some things depend on others. For example don't disable google services if you intend on using any of their things).
There are many apps out there which show you what's running in the background and taking most space. Are you sure your phone feels slower or it's just the RAM that worries you?
Keep in mind that apps keep running in the background so you can later open them quickly, so if you force close them the next time you open them it will be slower.
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There are many apps out there which show you what's running in the background and taking most space. Are you sure your phone feels slower or it's just the RAM that worries you?
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Yes, i feel that phone slower, i wait too long time, while i check RAM it is almost full, and after cleaning RAM phone is more responsive.
Ok, i'll try disable some services in background with root phone, thank you.
I'm still using mine on the unbranded MDM which came with the phone.
I will wait a couple more days, and if they will not release a BTU update, i will flash the DBT one.
Since i have the phone ~May , i never had those lags and redraws like i see here from some users.
I'm not rooted at the moment and if i use apps/games and i just exit them, used RAM drops to ~0.98, i never clear them from memory, but if i do then the used ram drops to ~0.87.
speedfire said:
Hello guys,
i can't understand where disappear 2Gb memory on SGS4 i9505. I use stock ROM, minimum one time per day i need clean memory through "active aplication" manager because phone unresponsive, it is same situation as on my old phone SGS1 I9000 (512mb RAM). Even all aplication cleared still used 1.2Gb RAM of 1.78Gb physically memory. This is normal or i need begin flash a lot of custom ROM's for find something useful that realy works??? What is better way?
Thanks in advance for answers.
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let the android system manage your ram.
any way, you want to see more free ram?
go to developers options and set "Background process limit" to 4 or less
samersh72 said:
let the android system manage your ram.
any way, you want to see more free ram?
go to developers options and set "Background process limit" to 4 or less
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Do you recommend doing this for battery life improvement?
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Do you recommend doing this for battery life improvement?
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it saves a little bit of battery.
but setting limit is not so good for multi-tasking, some apps (not cached in the background) will take a little more time to open, maybe you will not notice that. so if you set limit for example to 2, open running app in setting and press on "show cached process", you will see only 2 apps are cached in the background
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let the android system manage your ram.
any way, you want to see more free ram?
go to developers options and set "Background process limit" to 4 or less
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Yes, i did it, now on phone "Background proccess limit" is 4 app, but in any case during normal phone job 1.1Gb is used.
Simply i compare with my previous phone galaxy s I9000 that flashed with custom ROM on android 4.1 (comparable software) and i it perfectly and stable work with 512Mb RAM and 1gb (one core) proccessor. I don't play with games and don't feel high difference between two absolutely different hardware's & devices (i don't speak about screens). Old phone work very smoothly, it only uses half as much system resources relatively to new galaxy s4 i9505. Why i need use "Background process limit" option on newest device with 2Gb RAM, even think about it? What is payment for biggest high quality screen?
speedfire said:
Yes, i did it, now on phone "Background proccess limit" is 4 app, but in any case during normal phone job 1.1Gb is used.
Simply i compare with my previous phone galaxy s I9000 that flashed with custom ROM on android 4.1 (comparable software) and i it perfectly and stable work with 512Mb RAM and 1gb (one core) proccessor. I don't play with games and don't feel high difference between two absolutely different hardware's & devices (i don't speak about screens). Old phone work very smoothly, it only uses half as much system resources relatively to new galaxy s4 i9505. Why i need use "Background process limit" option on newest device with 2Gb RAM, even think about it? What is payment for biggest high quality screen?
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no need and not mandatory to set process limit, it is for dev and testing purposes.
linux is smart enough to manage ram
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no need and not mandatory to set process limit, it is for dev and testing purposes.
linux is smart enough to manage ram
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Of course, but what reason unrational using memory on galaxy S4?
I can understand than system use 500Mb RAM even 700Mb but not over 1gb....
speedfire said:
Of course, but what reason unrational using memory on galaxy S4?
I can understand than system use 500Mb RAM even 700Mb but not over 1gb....
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on S4, for example, you are dealing with almost 1.14 GB of system apps,
a lot of bloatwares....
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on S4, for example, you are dealing with almost 1.14 GB of system apps,
a lot of bloatwares....
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So, only one way remove excess system apps.
thanks for your help.
Ok guys first of all I did my search about the "NEW TASK MANAGER on SGNOTE 4" that comes in original Kitkat in Note 4. I didn't found any complains. Here's my question:
What do you think about it?
I'm porting from SgNote 2, and its Task manager was really helpfull, I've never feel my phone slow after I used, but now, I'm having 900Mb of free Ram, and I'm not using anything on first task! I MEAN A LOT OF SPENT RAM WITHOUT I'VE OPENED ANYTHING, and I activate the task manager and says THERE'S NO TASK TO KILL. Of course I've have my Note 4 Rooted, so I unistalled a lot of stuff I'm not using, and I'm using the "gemini app" task killer to kick up that apps running back.
And my suggestion,
Is there a dev who can port the SGNOTE 2 OR SGNOTE3 task manager to our SGNOTE 4?
(I'm using exynos version if it's necessary to know)
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Ok guys first of all I did my search about the "NEW TASK MANAGER on SGNOTE 4" that comes in original Kitkat in Note 4. I didn't found any complains. Here's my question:
What do you think about it?
I'm porting from SgNote 2, and its Task manager was really helpfull, I've never feel my phone slow after I used, but now, I'm having 900Mb of free Ram, and I'm not using anything on first task! I MEAN A LOT OF SPENT RAM WITHOUT I'VE OPENED ANYTHING, and I activate the task manager and says THERE'S NO TASK TO KILL. Of course I've have my Note 4 Rooted, so I unistalled a lot of stuff I'm not using, and I'm using the "gemini app" task killer to kick up that apps running back.
And my suggestion,
Is there a dev who can port the SGNOTE 2 OR SGNOTE3 task manager to our SGNOTE 4?
(I'm using exynos version if it's necessary to know)
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Free RAM is wasted RAM. Don't worry about having "only" 900Mb free RAM because the OS is trying to optimise memory performance and usage. Essentially, the OS will be keeping frequently used processes and data in memory even if they are not actively being used, because it improves both performance and battery usage.
The more RAM you throw at Android, the more it will consume - a Note 4 with only 2GB of RAM would still run everything that a 3GB Note 4 would generally run, but performance would likely be lower when multi-tasking or switching apps.
Regards,
Dave
well Thanks
Ok, I Though that spent battery. That's why I was worry about it. I changed to ART and I have not noticed any difference, except of course than I have never had any lag. (I'M NOT USING TOUCHWIZ).
Hi everyone. I have noticed that I don't have more than 1gb of free ram even if I close all the apps. And if I open my browser, it eats 500mb of ram. My phone became slower after few days of use, I notice constant lags. I have put most apps to sleep, and disabled some packages. But still very low on ram. Any advice please?
kazzaqov said:
Hi everyone. I have noticed that I don't have more than 1gb of free ram even if I close all the apps. And if I open my browser, it eats 500mb of ram. My phone became slower after few days of use, I notice constant lags. I have put most apps to sleep, and disabled some packages. But still very low on ram. Any advice please?
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It is normal that your phone uses ram although 1 gb available is a bit low. Maybe factory reset the phone? If that doesn't work I would go back to where you got it from or contact samsung support
I checked and I have about 1.5 available after closing all apps and optimisation
I typically have 500-700 free on mine and experience no lag. Unix based OSes are supposed to occupy memory in order to launch things faster.
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Yeah don't worry it's normal !
Some OS almost use 100% of RAM, but keep providing a perfect multitasking.
It doesn't mean that you will only have 700-900 Mo available for your multitasking, your OS will free RAM if necessary and let it to the apps. And even with 10 open apps in window mode, you will still have 700 Mo of RAM available
Thanks everyone. I have 1-1.2gb free with no active apps and now i see it's ok. Phone becomes a little slower when there are many apps open, but I believe it's also ok, nothing critical.
Why do people care how much RAM is free? I don't worry about it on my phone or laptops. I just let the devices do what they do best -- entertain me
cliffr39 said:
Why do people care how much RAM is free? I don't worry about it on my phone or laptops. I just let the devices do what they do best -- entertain me
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I noticed lags and then saw that I have low free ram. On my previous leeco le max 2 I've had 1.8-2 gb free. So i thought maybe i do something wrong and more free ram will make phone faster. But looks like everything's fine.
kazzaqov said:
Hi everyone. I have noticed that I don't have more than 1gb of free ram even if I close all the apps. And if I open my browser, it eats 500mb of ram. My phone became slower after few days of use, I notice constant lags. I have put most apps to sleep, and disabled some packages. But still very low on ram. Any advice please?
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In Android unused Ram is wasted Ram. You normally want to have about 500 free. If you're noticing that every time you open an app again it has to reload then yes it's an issue.
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Hi; if you want more free ram you can reduse background process in setting/developer option
if you set background process on 2 system will process only two apps.
if your phone is slow when ram is full you can use ram booster.
Force close it! and greenify (need root) are the best ram booster.
Just uninstall applicatiions that you dont use or disable them. Pretty simple
yes more ram usage is not more battery drain, and device lag if there is no more ram or not enough available but its like if you only fill 1/4 of your fridge , your fridge won't consume more power if you put more stuff on it and it become only a problem if you want to put a big thing on it but its already full , so its only now that its useful so empty a bit the fridge to make space , but empty your fridge to put nothing on it is useless, you know what I mean?