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Maybe this shows that I am a noob, but here it goes.
I want to save my battary power when running the GPS, but all the power saveing settings turn the phone onto standby, thus loosing GPS lock (and when I am using my better bluetooth GPS, it locks out the bluetooth and I have to re-boot). Is there some why to just turn of the screen? Is that "an app for that"? I am currently trying out SVM Power Manager, but you can not set it to turn the screen off in 2 minites or whatever. To use it how I need, I would have to turn off the OS's power saver, and always manualy turn off the screen using SVM Power Manager. All the power manager apps I have seen work like that.
Help!
you will probably have to buy an extended battery man. i think even real android phones batteries drain pretty quick from what i hear.
Did some testing. It seems that the battery will last for about 5h with the screen of (using SVM Power Manager to turn it off), and the GPS running (GPSed running it).
Understood that the battery is just under powered, but I was wondering if there was a way to make the screen automaticaly turn off after X amount of time, but not have the phone go into standby.
I also bought one of those battery powered battery chargers (battery extender). But the one I got turned out to have only 500mAh (compared with 1100mAh in the phone battery), so it turned out to only help a bit. Maybe I will try to make one with a voltage regulator and a rechargable 9V battery
I think one of the pmsleepmodes may support this (in default.txt) Try 2 or 3. It seems like one of these didnt do a full power collapse, but did turn the screen off.
katmandu421: I am not familiar with this stuff. Can you give me a bit of a more detailed explination?
Is this a built in windows mobile funciton. Can I access this in the registry?
I love it how most of us would assume he's talking Android. Yes in android, editing your default.txt to sleep mode 0 would turn off the screen, but not sleep the system. 1,2, or 3 would allow the different system board types used in various Vogues to go to sleep.
WinMo however is a different story. The GPS in the Vogue is a low power chip, but from everything I can gather is requires the system to stay fully awake. If you find an app that allows you to turn off your screen, post back but I don't believe there is much hope to that. Windows seems to think that when the lights go out, it's sleepy time.
Also, the radio on the Vogue doesn't sleep, and it's use to wake up the phone i.e. incoming calls. The GPS is part of the radio so if there is a way to keep the system board awake, in theory it should work.
SVM Power Manager will turn off the screen while keeping everything awake, but it is not automatic. I have maped the camera button to this program, so it is not a huge hassle, but I realy would like to have it automatic.
Will consider installing Android.
Titus_Andronicus said:
SVM Power Manager will turn off the screen while keeping everything awake, but it is not automatic. I have maped the camera button to this program, so it is not a huge hassle, but I realy would like to have it automatic.
Will consider installing Android.
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Did anyone ever figure out how to do this? I'm trying to figure this out as well. After finally getting GPS to work, now I'd like to be able to use some apps that need to run when in standby.
mnations said:
Did anyone ever figure out how to do this? I'm trying to figure this out as well. After finally getting GPS to work, now I'd like to be able to use some apps that need to run when in standby.
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Check on Dev&Hacking. An app just came out today that does exactly what you are asking for here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=707458
Enjoy
egzthunder1 said:
Check on Dev&Hacking. An app just came out today that does exactly what you are asking for here.
Enjoy
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Thanks! That looks like a handy app.
An update (in case anyone hits this thread later)...I made this one change which seemed to clear up all of the problems (found elsewhere but can't post outside link yet.)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 8-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\Phone as Modem]
"Enabled"=dword:00000000"
Now this is in conjunction with QuickGPS and all the other fiddling I've done, so I don't if this alone is responsible.
However, when running Google Maps or other GPS applications I get a lock within 5-15 secs. Also, when coming back from standby it's able to re-lock in the same amount of time. This normally required a soft restart before.
For apps that track your routes, such as SportyPal which I've been using for mapping my bike rides, they can keep a lock even in standby mode. I'm not sure if the app itself is able to hold a lock or if QuickGPS may be helping it. Either way it works.
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
ClearOutLoft said:
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
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What apps are you trying to "keep running"? The only thing that might be an issue when the screen goes into it's normal sleep mode is that audio will stop outputting, and wifi connections will suspend, but there's cabs available here to easily get around both of those (and keep them going even when the screen shuts off).
Well, it's actually to solve another long-running problem that has made me almost lose the will to live....
Alarms don't go off reliably on my TP2.
Sometimes, randomly, the alarm doesn't go off until I press the power button to wake it up. The the alarm instantly goes off. So, if I set an alarm for 6am, sometimes the phone wakes up and the alarm sounds, sometimes not. And if I switch the phone on manually sometime later, at 6:15 say, the 6am alarm sounds then.
It will work fine for a few days, then fail.
It happened on WM6.1 and still continues after upgrading to WM6.5.
I have spent countless hours googling and searching XDA-Dev. I have tried probably ten different alarm apps, with no luck. I have hard-reset various times. I have tried various recommended registry tweaks. I've tried checking the notification queue regularly for any errors. I've tried so many different suggestions, for example, never pressing the power button to turn the phone off, only ever let it hibernate automatically. Warm-resetting it each day. And the list goes on.
So, I'm experimenting with just leaving the phone on forever. But turning the screen off at night to save power / not shorten the life of the screen hardware.
Which leads me to the question about screensavers which actually power off the screen automatically after a set delay. Just like a normal screensaver on a PC.
It's hard to easily convey the frustration I have for the TP2. An excellent phone. But a phone which I can't trust to do the simplest thing: to wake me up in the morning?
It'll end up in the bin at some point very soon now.....
A suggestion
Hi,
In my opinion there must be an application, change or customisation that is leading you to those problems. My suggestion is, to perform a sync towards any computer or server to keep your contacts, then, hard reset and keep the phone with the factory defaults for a while. Then, test the phone's alarms and if all is okay, add one by one your applications and changes, testing the alarms in between. Please do that on the official ROM (whatever 6.5 or 6.1) but official one. You will flash if needed later on.
I know it will be a pain, but you will find the problem.
I am using a TP2 with stock WM6.5 ROM. I have not had yet any issue with the alarms. However, I remember to have had those kind of problems before with WM 5.0 and 6.1. There were always related to freeware applications, customisations, no official ROMs, registry hacks and restored backups done from older builds upon upgrade. The alarm bug in old WM version was also known, but I have not experienced it on newer versions.
There can be some issues with the notification database by times, but as said above, it is almost every time due to customisations.
I am not saying that we should keep our phones without applications, third party software, cooked ROMs, customisation etc. But the goal is to find out what is the reason, and believe me. It is the best if not only way.
If you post the list of applications and hacks that you have in your phone, I can try to see if there is any I could identify like guilty one, based on my own experience.
Complementary, I recommend you to install and use these two applications in attachment. They have worked for me on WM5, 6, 6.1 and 6.5 so far. They are freeware and therefore you can use them without problems.
Good luck!
Thanks for taking the time to reply. All very good advice. I'll have a go when I've got some free time again. In the meantime, has anyone come across a screensaver that actually powers off the screen please?
Thanks again.
ClearOutLoft said:
Well, it's actually to solve another long-running problem that has made me almost lose the will to live....
Alarms don't go off reliably on my TP2.
Sometimes, randomly, the alarm doesn't go off until I press the power button to wake it up. The the alarm instantly goes off. So, if I set an alarm for 6am, sometimes the phone wakes up and the alarm sounds, sometimes not. And if I switch the phone on manually sometime later, at 6:15 say, the 6am alarm sounds then.
It will work fine for a few days, then fail.
It happened on WM6.1 and still continues after upgrading to WM6.5.
I have spent countless hours googling and searching XDA-Dev. I have tried probably ten different alarm apps, with no luck. I have hard-reset various times. I have tried various recommended registry tweaks. I've tried checking the notification queue regularly for any errors. I've tried so many different suggestions, for example, never pressing the power button to turn the phone off, only ever let it hibernate automatically. Warm-resetting it each day. And the list goes on.
So, I'm experimenting with just leaving the phone on forever. But turning the screen off at night to save power / not shorten the life of the screen hardware.
Which leads me to the question about screensavers which actually power off the screen automatically after a set delay. Just like a normal screensaver on a PC.
It's hard to easily convey the frustration I have for the TP2. An excellent phone. But a phone which I can't trust to do the simplest thing: to wake me up in the morning?
It'll end up in the bin at some point very soon now.....
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do you turn your ringer to silent or vibrate when you go to bed? if so,
go to start/settings/clocks&alarms/more and make sure that the "sound alarms box" is checked. this will make sure that even if your phone ringers/alerts are off, your alarm will ring. also, if you charge your phone while you sleep, go to the backlight settings and uncheck the "turn screen off on ac power" box. if you cant sleep with the phone light on, set it to max dim on ac power and flip it over. i always had this issue when i had the tmobile wing.
ClearOutLoft said:
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
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S2U2 on this forum.
try g alarm.it worked perfect for me with tilt
I have similar Issues with my TP2;
I notice that it is more to do with HIBERNATING than screen off.
My TP2 has go to the point where allowing it to go to hibernation means Screen of Death.
Overnight I charge it and do not let the screen go off and it seems ok (so far).
Guess I will have to Hard reset and test my freeware.
Cheers
G
I had the exact same problem. When the phone goes to sleep, it is ASLEEP. I didn't use the alarm too much but the phone would never notify me when SMS arrived. I'd hit the power switch to check, and bam, three messages arrive at once, some from hours ago. Immensely frustrating, but the problem went away when I installed Energy rom.
Can you recommend an app or a mod which control wifi connection when the screen is off? I notice that if I enable wifi, I got 20% battery drop per a day, but I got 2% drop if I disabled wifi. Still, I like to have wifi on when I am using it, and clicking several time to enable wifi is quite irritating (relatively). So I thought there might be a good resolution to handle this my lazy problem.
I searched it on android market, and can find several. Can you recommend any one which will work well with NookTouch? I appreciate your inputs.
Same problem pal. But I also can't fix wifi not reconnecting when nook is up from sleep state issue. Suggestions?
I use the power widget that comes with ADW. I can turn WiFi on and off from my home screen with one tap.
Is it possible for it to be done automatically? Like on my smartphone? When wifi is turned on and my nook goes to sleep mode then when it wakes up wifi is off, in "disconnected" state.
I use the program Llama. It lets you set up all sorts of conditional changes for phones (similar to Tasker).
On my nook, I have one event trigger. When wifi turns on, Llama delays for 5 minutes, then turns wifi off.
It isn't exactly the same as turning off wifi when the screen turns off, but it helps me save battery. I currently have it send a notification to let me know it is turning off wifi, so I have the option to keep wifi on if I so choose.
Edit: Llama does have an event trigger for Screen Off, but I couldn't get it to work. Maybe the Nook doesn't turn off the screen in the way standard android phones do, so the trigger doesn't run.
Edit 2: I just realized you wanted one that turns wifi off when turning the screen of, then reconnects when turning the screen on. If Llama correctly detects the screen off/on triggers, you could set up two events, one to turn wifi off and one to turn it back on. I haven't gotten it to work, so maybe Llama isn't going to work for your particular needs.
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Edit 2: I just realized you wanted one that turns wifi off when turning the screen of, then reconnects when turning the screen on. If Llama correctly detects the screen off/on triggers, you could set up two events, one to turn wifi off and one to turn it back on. I haven't gotten it to work, so maybe Llama isn't going to work for your particular needs.
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The NST is so heavily customized by B&N that you cannot rely on the "usual" events being triggered.
They only did what was necessary to save enough power and get the device to work and I don't blame them for that.
I'm pretty sure there's an event triggered that can be used for this particular task tho, if I get some spare time I might dig into it.
Well, I'm the impression, that my nook does that. I mean, when in sleeping mode - the WIFI is OFF. But when I awake the NOOK, wifi turns ON by it self and connect to internet. What I suspect, you might have the problem that other users experienced (including me) ... that you will have to change one file. Read more about it here.
I hope, this will help you.
Thx for all help !
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In TorimuNooter I fixed the battery drain, pop on over to the TorimuNooter thread. The latest version (Ver 0.3) was just uploaded today!
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So, here's my issue: I started to notice that bluetooth audio, which was usually good, started to suddenly cut in and out. At the same time, my battery life went to pot, and the top battery sucker was the Bluetooth share. I also noticed that the phone got really hot and very slow when charging when all of this was happening (usually I don't have to worry about the phone getting super hot when charging and using bluetooth).
I installed BBS and GSAM, and they both basically told me that the phone was not going to sleep because the bluetooth share was keeping it away. I even tried installing Naptime, and the phone still refuses to go into deep sleep, and the bluetooth share keeps sucking battery.
So here's what I've done so far...
- Uninstalled recent apps, no change
- Clear Bluetooth share, restart phone, no change
- Unpair all bluetooth devices, no change
- Restart phone (several times), no change
- Start the phone in safe mode, phone behaves normally....
In the course of trying to figure out what's going on, I basically uninstalled every app and the bluetooth share was still keeping my phone awake.
The only way I've found that fixes this issue is to completely format the phone and reinstall stock firmware. And I don't mean just to fastboot flash system system.img, I mean I have to fastboot erase system and then flash the system in order for bluetooth to behave. After I do this, and reinstall all my usual apps (I allow Google to download them, then I use titanium backup to restore the data on apps that don't sync their own data), the phone works brilliantly for about a week and a half, then the ordeal starts all over again.
The only thing I haven't tried is going bone stock... when I reinstall my phone I root and put Frankenclar on it. I used to use Xposed, but I tried going without to see if that made a difference... and, nope. Even without Xposed the bluetooth share keeps the phone awake.
I've started going through the steps to contact Moto, but they may balk because I've unlocked my phone (even though the warranty says valid).
Any ideas??
Oh, I'm on Verizon, so my choice of roms are limited... and I really like the wake on approach, twist for camera, chop for flashlight, and being able to call to my phone when the screen is off and it's not charging.
Thanks for your time!
Okay, so for anyone else who may be having an issue like this... here was my problem:
After doing a lot of searching online, I discovered that the CVS app was causing the issue. Apparently CVS uses bluetooth beacons to discover your location and push "deals" to your phone. Only, this causes the phone to never go to sleep and causes the bluetooth to stay active and scanning.
So I uninstalled the CVS app, restarted the phone, and have been happy ever since. The app was handy, and some people have said that disabling the location ability in the app permissions may fix it, so I might try that later.
In addition, the Gasbuddy app has also caused similar issues, so if you have random battery drain and have either Gasbuddy or CVS installed, try uninstalling those and see if it helps.
I currently use my S8 along with my Huawei watch 1 to start my PC via WOL. The process is that I use WearTasker on the watch, which triggers a tasker task, which in turn uses a plugin from the app Wake On Lan.
The problem is that, most times, nothing happens when I trigger the task from my watch. If, however, I go to my phone and start the Wake on Lan app - to make sure it's running - then the process works perfectly. Obviously, this defeats the point though.
I have both App Power Monitor and Power Saving Mode disabled in the S8 settings. Is there anything else I can do to make sure this app doesn't get killed and continues running in the background?
phunni said:
I currently use my S8 along with my Huawei watch 1 to start my PC via WOL. The process is that I use WearTasker on the watch, which triggers a tasker task, which in turn uses a plugin from the app Wake On Lan.
The problem is that, most times, nothing happens when I trigger the task from my watch. If, however, I go to my phone and start the Wake on Lan app - to make sure it's running - then the process works perfectly. Obviously, this defeats the point though.
I have both App Power Monitor and Power Saving Mode disabled in the S8 settings. Is there anything else I can do to make sure this app doesn't get killed and continues running in the background?
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Add your app in to the "Unmonitored Apps" list under the battery screen (Scroll to the end of the screen in case you can't see).
venki5star said:
Add your app in to the "Unmonitored Apps" list under the battery screen (Scroll to the end of the screen in case you can't see).
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Ok, done that - although I assumed that wasn't relevant since the app power monitor is off. I even had to enable it in order to add the app to the list - before, of course, disabling it again.
I initially thought that had fixed the problem, but the required app is still often not running.
phunni said:
I currently use my S8 along with my Huawei watch 1 to start my PC via WOL. The process is that I use WearTasker on the watch, which triggers a tasker task, which in turn uses a plugin from the app Wake On Lan.
The problem is that, most times, nothing happens when I trigger the task from my watch. If, however, I go to my phone and start the Wake on Lan app - to make sure it's running - then the process works perfectly. Obviously, this defeats the point though.
I have both App Power Monitor and Power Saving Mode disabled in the S8 settings. Is there anything else I can do to make sure this app doesn't get killed and continues running in the background?
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Think it has something to do with having a lockscreen that has a pin/password, remove it and see if it fixes the issue
Interesting. I just tried it with the phone unlocked, but the WOL app not started (by me anyway - I assume it was running in the background or started by tasker) and it worked. Obviously, this isn't final proof, but it does lend significant strength to your theory...
As a father of young children - it's quite useful to be able to lock the phone. Is there a workaround for this behaviour?
phunni said:
I currently use my S8 along with my Huawei watch 1 to start my PC via WOL. The process is that I use WearTasker on the watch, which triggers a tasker task, which in turn uses a plugin from the app Wake On Lan.
The problem is that, most times, nothing happens when I trigger the task from my watch. If, however, I go to my phone and start the Wake on Lan app - to make sure it's running - then the process works perfectly. Obviously, this defeats the point though.
I have both App Power Monitor and Power Saving Mode disabled in the S8 settings. Is there anything else I can do to make sure this app doesn't get killed and continues running in the background?
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Is this an app in the phone? If so you can prevent killing an app, by pressing recents button, 3 dot, lock apps. The app will stay in ram.
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My S8 seems to just shut processes off when the screen is off. It's really annoying. No "OK Google" support, I can't get volume to work on my Chromecast except for maybe the first couple minutes the screen is off, then it works again when the screen is on, and simple app notifications like Domino's telling me my pizza status never works, even tho notifications are turned on.
It also likes to completely reset my games if I try to do something simple like minimizing it and doing a quick Google search. It seems like it just handles memory very poorly.