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Could someone tell me if you can watch videos directly from the SD card in the SD Card adaptor for the Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9? If so does this also work from third party video players such as moboplayer?
Anyone know?
I dunno about GT 8.9 or SD adapters but I watch videos loaded on my microSD card that is inserted in my GT (7") all the time, with any of several video players, including moboplayer...
Yes, that works on my 10.1. All video players can access files on SD cards as well as USB drives (with adapter).
Yes it works.
You may also be able to read from the External Storage Device under:
Galaxy Tab 10.1: /sdcard/usbStorage/sd[a-z]
Galaxy Tab 7.7: /sdcard/extStorage/sd[a-z]
Most media player which supports scanning SDCard Directory will be able to playback the videos on them; Default Video player can do so as well.
Oh, and the USB and SD card adapters will not work on the older 7" tab. I think someone was trying to get those working but not sure if there was any luck.
I have ordered the OTG cable but while I wait I'll pose the question.
I've placed a 3gb mkv on the N7 and it plays like a champ but would like to get a larger jump drive to place movies on (larger than 2gb). Will the N7 recognize a NTFS partition or would I need to format it as something else?
agrover5279 said:
I have ordered the OTG cable but while I wait I'll pose the question.
I've placed a 3gb mkv on the N7 and it plays like a champ but would like to get a larger jump drive to place movies on (larger than 2gb). Will the N7 recognize a NTFS partition or would I need to format it as something else?
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I just tried a 4.37GB mkv file on a 16GB NTFS stick - it all works fine here
I was going to transfer a few 720p movie files to my Nexus 7 today only to be told by my computer that I can't transfer any files larger than 4GB onto my Nexus 7...
...We do live in 2012, right?
How can I get around the 4GB file size limit (and why does such a thing exist in the first place!?)
I'd use Dropbox. The 4GB limit is based on how the internal SD was fashioned. Google probably figured that with a 8GB or 16GB device, no one would need to circumvent that limit
You proved them wrong.
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woshiweili said:
I was going to transfer a few 720p movie files to my Nexus 7 today only to be told by my computer that I can't transfer any files larger than 4GB onto my Nexus 7...
...We do live in 2012, right?
How can I get around the 4GB file size limit (and why does such a thing exist in the first place!?)
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I really don't see a need for transferring 4 GB at once. Why not move ONE movie at a time
the 4gb file limit is a restriction placed since the internal storage runs the FAT file system for compatibility with more PCs. i may be wrong, but android doesnt support NTFS at the moment, so the 4gb limit wont be bypassed anytime soon.
although you could just use a video file splitter.
You could use a USB OTG cable and thumb drive. Just toss the times you want on the thumb drive and rock with that.
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As mentioned, the 4GB limit is a filesystem limitation. I don't exactly know what filesystems Android supports natively though, but perhaps ext3 or ext4 would be a nice choice.
As others have said, if you're rooted you can use stickmount app and a usb otg cable to mount a stick drive to the nexus. It supports NTFS which doesn't have a file limit. It is read only, however, so you cannot move anything back on to the thumb drive, but it doesn't sound like that would be a problem for your uses. Copy and paste to tablet works great, and so does direct playback from the drive with mx player. My 1080p 15gb files play wonderfully from the stick, kind of amazing despite being egregious overkill..
I do wish there was a way to write to the NTFS drives though...
Android uses ext3 or ext4 which permits large file sizes.
Unless there is some special implementation of this file system that restricts file sizes, the actual problem is with Windows not recognizing that the device can handle large file sizes.
You are gaining NOTHING in quality with a 4GB+ video over a 1GB video.
Its a waste on such a small screen, you will NEVER be able to tell the difference.
Re-encode the video with the proper bitrate and enjoy amazing HD quality with a reasonable file size. Takes 25 min on a good modern computer for a 2 hour movie.
Queue 10 movies up before you go to bed. Done when you wake up. Pretty simple people.
Hemidroids said:
You are gaining NOTHING in quality with a 4GB+ video over a 1GB video.
Its a waste on such a small screen, you will NEVER be able to tell the difference.
Re-encode the video with the proper bitrate and enjoy amazing HD quality with a reasonable file size. Takes 25 min on a good modern computer for a 2 hour movie.
Queue 10 movies up before you go to bed. Done when you wake up. Pretty simple people.
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Actually re-encoding it to be a smaller file is exactly what I did as a solution and you are right, the process is "simple", but not FAST. Transferring the two movies I wanted to watch would've taken about 6-8 minutes via USB. However, the re-coding took about 12 minutes each video to get them down to about 2GB each. Then I transferred the files which took 3-4 minutes.
So had the Nexus 7 didn't have the 4GB file size limit, the total time I had to wait before I leave the house would've been 6-8 minutes. But because of the file size limit, I ended up waiting a total of close to 30 minutes.
I also agree that I gain nothing in quality with a 4GB movie file due to the size of the Nexus 7's screen. However, I had already downloaded these movies which I originally planned on watching on my 1080p HDTV.
CooLoserTech said:
I really don't see a need for transferring 4 GB at once. Why not move ONE movie at a time
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It's actually ONE movie file that's over 4GB
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Just go to thepiratebay.se and you can select whatever filesize and format your heart desires.
USB hard drive on Nexus 7
I just plugged in my 2.5-inch 1 TB USB hard drive into my Nexus 7 USB OTG. It is NTFS formatted. StickMount mounted it. I am now playing a 1080p video that is an 8GB file.
I was pleasantly surprised that the Nexus 7 supplies enough power to run the USB hard drive just fine.
Write?
geekmaster said:
I just plugged in my 2.5-inch 1 TB USB hard drive into my Nexus 7 USB OTG. It is NTFS formatted. StickMount mounted it. I am now playing a 1080p video that is an 8GB file.
I was pleasantly surprised that the Nexus 7 supplies enough power to run the USB hard drive just fine.
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While that's very impressive that the Nex7 can power the external hard drive, your scenario isn't a very viable option if you ask me. What I am looking for is fully-functional storage. There is no way currently that allows you to WRITE anything to that 1TB hard drive, am I right? You can only read. I currently have a 64GB flash drive, nice and light, and the adapter is velcroed to the back of my Nex7
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While that's very impressive that the Nex7 can power the external hard drive, your scenario isn't a very viable option if you ask me. What I am looking for is fully-functional storage. There is no way currently that allows you to WRITE anything to that 1TB hard drive, am I right? You can only read. I currently have a 64GB flash drive, nice and light, and the adapter is velcroed to the back of my Nex7
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You should be able to use this kernel to do so, since it supports NTFS read and write:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804374
HunteronX said:
You should be able to use this kernel to do so, since it supports NTFS read and write:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804374
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Thank you, I'll give this a try and update in a minute.
UPDATE:
That kernel worked perfectly. It didn't automatically allow me to write to my flash drive or delete files, but I went into Paragon NTFS, unmounted, then re-mounted, and everything was super. Super as in: I can finally WRITE! =D
Thank you kindly.
The internal storage for nexus 7 is indeed not fat32, one way to prove it is to use a terminal app and concat large files all together, and you will see it bypass the 4gb limit, there was one test done and there's a 6 gig file inside the internal storage for nexus 7
Nexus 7 probably used fuse to display its contents on other oses, like windows or even macosx, using the universal file format fat32 to make it an easy process to mount stuff.
So unless there is a way to bypass and write to the storage natively, otg and a usb stick is another method...
No FTP or wifi xfers, too slow for a large mkv file
So is this an old issue? I just picked up an N7 and transferred a 5gig file to mess around and it plays just fine.
4 GB for one movie... good lord. What are you watching? Watchmen considering that's long as hell and drawn out... lol
woshiweili said:
Actually re-encoding it to be a smaller file is exactly what I did as a solution and you are right, the process is "simple", but not FAST. Transferring the two movies I wanted to watch would've taken about 6-8 minutes via USB. However, the re-coding took about 12 minutes each video to get them down to about 2GB each. Then I transferred the files which took 3-4 minutes.
So had the Nexus 7 didn't have the 4GB file size limit, the total time I had to wait before I leave the house would've been 6-8 minutes. But because of the file size limit, I ended up waiting a total of close to 30 minutes.
I also agree that I gain nothing in quality with a 4GB movie file due to the size of the Nexus 7's screen. However, I had already downloaded these movies which I originally planned on watching on my 1080p HDTV.
It's actually ONE movie file that's over 4GB
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metalwraith said:
4 GB for one movie... good lord. What are you watching? Watchmen considering that's long as hell and drawn out... lol
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my ultimate cut of watchmen has 48gb, 1 mkv nonlossy video from blurry + dtshd track
I found this thread while searching for video size limit of Android but my dilemma is slightly different and I am not sure why I couldn't find a more elaborate discussion thread on the issue. I am talking about the size limit of the video that you are allow to capture using Android apps. I have tested it with Xperia SP and Samsung Galaxy Grand and both apps STOPPED capturing the video once the video file size reaches 4gigs, regardless of whether the storage media you are recording to is NTFS or FAT32. Is it a known built-in limit of Android OS and if it is so, anyone know of a workaround, custom mod, kernel etc that allow the capturing of video beyond that limit ?
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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Can anyone help with some of these questions? I canceled the 16gb version and opted for the pro. I also canceled the sandisk micro sd. Can I use my Samsung ssd in usb 3.0 enclosure as adoptable storage? Would I benefit any from it as far as load times on games or should I just install to internal 500gb drive? What are the advantages of a custom rom over rooted stock rom. With stock rooted rom can I install all the same apps from Google play or will I have more options with a custom rom? Also I see custom roms of full android 6.0 without nvidia skin overlay. Are there any real benefits this and will I lose any functionality? Any help is appreciated, responses please! I get my shield Tuesday.
Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb
AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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techjunky90 said:
Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb
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Yeah ended up swapping for 16gb again and gonna use my Samsung ssd adopted. Found the answers to most questions just trying to decide rather to flash full android m or just root factory firmware.
Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd
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Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd
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I think the drive is a Hybrid. Pretty good chance that NVIDIA just used a USB 3.0 to SATA chip to service that 500gb drive. So I see no reason why you couldn't have just done it yourself.
How do you know the device did not come with the remote already? I purchased the 16gb and decided I did not want the remote so I didn't buy it, yet surprisingly it was in the retail box anyway.
As far as I know it's just the shield and the controller in the box according to the Amazon description and pictures. They do sell a bundle that has the remote included but I'm pretty confident mine has no remote. You cannot add, change, or remove storage internally on the shield nvidia made sure of that.
Weather to Pro or not to Pro, you can find some more opinions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/help/buying-16gb-128gb-sdcard-500gb-t3399659
It all comes down to what you want to use the Shield for. If your installed games are not going to exceed those 16GB of flash (which of course will be less) I see no reason to get the Pro. Another valid point is the price difference: for the 100€ difference, I could get a 2-4 TB HDD.
On another note, I think you can find more answers around here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/159/shield-android-tv/
Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.
SkOrPn said:
Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.
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Gotcha I plan on it, I have a 256gb ssd in enclosure I want to use as adopted storage and a 4tb wd external for media storage
Personally speaking, for my family anyway I just add drives to the home server, or retire them for bigger ones. Building a Windows home server 5 years ago was the best thing I ever did for media consumption. Sadly I only have 3 SATA ports so I am limited to the amount of drives I can add
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One thing I forgot to mention: adding USB devices through a USB port will limit the speed and latency at which they are accessed.
OK how would you guys setup this is what I now have ordered and has already shipped so no going back. Idc if I use adoptable storage or not unless it benefits me. My usage will be downloading large torrent files and copying them to 4tb drive using shield as player, lots of large file gaming, kodi, Internet browsing and that's about it. Maybe hangouts
What I ordered:
Shield pro 500gb
Remote
Controllers
Bluetooth keyboard
Whatever I already have:
Samsung 256gb ssd
4tb wd my book
500gb hdd out of ps4
I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.
Mr Creosote said:
I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.
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Edit: I think I've got it figured out just gonna root stock rom and sideload whatever I can't get directly through playstore.
New Nvidia Shield user here... So I have a 500GB external HD that I am connecting to my new Shield. I, for the most part, want to utilize that HD for recording Live Channels DVR and Plex. I understand the two types of 'formatting' that can be done to the HD - Formatted as Adaptive (Device) storage, or Removable Storage.
For the above scenario (i.e. mostly for DVRing in Live Channels and/or Plex) which type of formatting would be the best to use for this 500GB drive?
Also, could I format a fast USB 128GB flash drive as Internal (Device) storage, then have the 500GB drive formatted as Removable connected at the same time? Any benefit to having this kind of setup? Or can any DVR recording (either Live Channels or Plex) write specifically to the removable storage?
Just curious as to the best way for me to format this drive for the purpose of Plex and DVRing live TV. Any thoughts appreciated.
-Chimp (Tom)
Does connecting USB drive give you longer live TV pausing times? Like over an hour or is Plex live TV pause limited to a certain time?