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yeah I sound stupid, usually you ahve to check in details the specs before buying device (I do own a TP2)
Anyway no IR port sucks... I like controling my home appliances with my phone and this si not possible with the TP2
Have the competing phones (iPhone, latts Acer, Xperia X2, N97, etc...) kept an IR port ?
*Edit* Sorry this thread should be in the General section of Rhodium, if someone could move it that would be better
Alcibiade said:
yeah I sound stupid, usually you ahve to check in details the specs before buying device (I do own a TP2)
Anyway no IR port sucks... I like controling my home appliances with my phone and this si not possible with the TP2
Have the competing phones (iPhone, latts Acer, Xperia X2, N97, etc...) kept an IR port ?
*Edit* Sorry this thread should be in the General section of Rhodium, if someone could move it that would be better
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In these day and age, mobile devices are excluding IrDA port already.. its pretty useless for file transfers.
Besides, if you are looking at remote controls, recent devices have only included lower class consumer IrDA ports. Which means they only function at very very short distances.. you are better off using your fingers on the buttons..
Hi, trolling in on the converstion here...
I have an old IPAQ PDA that came with a decent range IR port and stock Nevo Software.
It was awesome! I could control TV's, Videos, etc with it just by matching a code through trial and error.
I used to have great fun in shopping centre's turning off display tv's, then watching sales or demo people standing around scratching their heads as to why it would turn off or on or change the channels all by itself - hours of fun..!
Juvenile, yes - but lotsa fun.
Newer devices did shorten the IR range, which did make an IR port all but useless as a remote - shame, it was a handy thing to have with decent remote software like Nevo.
(Sometimes progress is not progress at all)
Cheers
Jabberoo
jabberoo said:
Hi, trolling in on the converstion here...
I have an old IPAQ PDA that came with a decent range IR port and stock Nevo Software.
It was awesome! I could control TV's, Videos, etc with it just by matching a code through trial and error.
I used to have great fun in shopping centre's turning off display tv's, then watching sales or demo people standing around scratching their heads as to why it would turn off or on or change the channels all by itself - hours of fun..!
Juvenile, yes - but lotsa fun.
Newer devices did shorten the IR range, which did make an IR port all but useless as a remote - shame, it was a handy thing to have with decent remote software like Nevo.
(Sometimes progress is not progress at all)
Cheers
Jabberoo
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I expected such models.. If the topic starter or anyone can name a few models which they had used the IrDA port with an effective range, I bet it would be old school PDAs.. Models in recent years have just really short ranged IR.
I also like the remote controling function.
I don't know why,for the designer,usually it's difficultly to carry out an useful funcation but easily to cut off an useful function.
Are there no Bluetooth to IR devices that would work?
No I've only seen a IR to Bluetooth devices on the market and that is the opposite of what your looking for it would be great if it was available. Somebody should put a request in to a developer who has experience with fabricating new hardware.
behold the solution to your problem!
no worries, I am working on a universal IR adaptor for phones, its coming along great; I killed my LEDs a while back so I had to wait for a new shipment and had problems with that, but delays aside, we are still set for a September release of our first products and delaying the boosted IR module to later this year (we will focus on software and regular rage IR instead).
Check out the links in my signature!
I got my nexus one exactly 1 week ago, and this device is amazing! I unlocked it and installed the cyanogen mod the day after i got it, and Iam really impressed of the results all you developers out there making theese custom roms happen.
I'have read on the internet that nexus one hardware has a fm recciver and transmitter + N wireless capable chip.
And its not even mentioned in the phone's spec list(i've hard it was at lauch, but was removed short time after), is this because there is currently no software support that they wont advertise the features?
Or is this just hardware which is on the phones chip because its just how they make them, and the features arent nesseseary availble to the phone.
Any ideas? or status on this?
Sorry my english is not very good + Iam a newbie =)
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I'have read on the internet that nexus one hardware has a fm recciver and transmitter + N wireless capable chip.
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802.11n works with the stock ROM, but it's only at 2.4 GHz (the phone doesn't appear to include the necessary antenna and RF components to work with the 5 GHz band). It's also only single-stream N, so you won't get link speeds higher than 65 Mbit. Maybe they didn't advertise it because it's only marginally faster than 802.11g, and generally the phone can't even saturate a G connection. In theory, you may get slightly better range with N and perhaps slightly worse battery life. I don't really know why they removed it from the specs shortly after launch.
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Or is this just hardware which is on the phones chip because its just how they make them, and the features arent nesseseary availble to the phone.
Any ideas? or status on this?
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Probably both. Some minimal extra hardware or connections may or may not be necessary to fully use the FM radio functions. But a Google employee (Swetland) stated that the main reason it wasn't included was because they didn't have time to do the software integration, and it wasn't a priority.
Thanx I would love to have a inbuild fm transmitter, that is just sick, I dont think any other cell phone have this working. We just need be patient and hope for best I guess
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Thanx I would love to have a inbuild fm transmitter, that is just sick, I dont think any other cell phone have this working. We just need be patient and hope for best I guess
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there are many many cell phones that have FM receiver and transmitter. the nokia n97 has both an FM radio, and also you can turn on the FM transmitter to play your music thru your car's stereo by tuning into a frequency, and your phone will broadcast to that frequency. actually the nexus one is missing this function when a lot of other phones have it! mainly high end nokia phones.
Don't count on the Nexus ever getting FM transmission capability. It does not have the FTC's stamp of approval for such a feature. FM receiving may be possible some day, but that's up to Google to write the necessary drivers and programs for it.
Or if it is possible maybe Macodo can port it from the desire rom like he did the camera. I'm just saying maybe..
-Charlie
The FTC denying the FM Trans was a joke..... The feds are so paranoid with cell phones and cars I find it hard to believe they will be approving many more FM Trans in cell phones..... Receiver....well, I search this forum everyday waiting to see the post with the "Flashable .zip to enable FM Radio!"
/me is willing to say we'll have FM Radio *SOON*
FM radio is great, i guess it use less battery power than internet radio over 3g.
I do have a FM transmitter in my car but the quality is kind of ****ty, the car i use at work dosent have any input or aux plug to the stereo.
Since we're on it, what do you guys think the future will bring the nexus one? or wish list?
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FM radio is great, i guess it use less battery power than internet radio over 3g.
I do have a FM transmitter in my car but the quality is kind of ****ty, the car i use at work dosent have any input or aux plug to the stereo.
Since we're on it, what do you guys think the future will bring the nexus one? or wish list?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668003
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Don't count on the Nexus ever getting FM transmission capability. It does not have the FTC's stamp of approval for such a feature. FM receiving may be possible some day, but that's up to Google to write the necessary drivers and programs for it.
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It may never come "officialy" for the nexus, but if they're working the aosp code future phones, then it's just a matter of devs flipping a switch instead of having to write code from the bottom up.
Nah, you don't, they say that to get the best reception, but you can do with out. Look up N900's fm capabilities to transmit/receive, you can do it without a plugged in antenna/headphones.
Just as aside for people wanting FM transmission with the Nexus One - a FM transmitter with a 3.5mm jack only costs around $5 (Australian Dollars) from ebay, and you can pick them up in stores for about the same price. Obviously not as convenient as having it built in and not having to take an extra accessory around - but I would assume you wouldn't want to use it in too many places anyway. Say the car, maybe a stereo at home and thats mainly it?
i don't need a transmitter as much as a receiver.
I am curious how the LG G2 IR blaster works as a remote control compared to the GS4 and HTC One? Is it very responsive to turning on your TV? What about for DVD/Bluray players or Air conditioners?
My good friend has an S4 and it works identical to his. Pretty much have to point the phone directly at the IR sensor. But that can also depend on the device you are controlling. But i do know the built in app, quick remote is a great app and has worked with every device I have currently. Tvs, sounds systems, dish, etc
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Xbox as a DVD player in app, my pana plasma, my Yamaha receiver, pretty much everything but my myth box. Admittedly, I haven't put in any time trying my myth box.
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it's pretty bad. there's absolutely no range. you have to literally be standing directly in front of what you're using.. not off to the side whatsoever. the gs4 had better range and angles.
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S4 works from any angle.. Tried and tested
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it's pretty bad. there's absolutely no range. you have to literally be standing directly in front of what you're using.. not off to the side whatsoever. the gs4 had better range and angles.
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Interesting. The LG G2's IR blaster looks like the same size as the GS4 but way smaller than the HTC One. I don't get why it would have range or angle issues compared to the GS4.
Doesn't handle complex remotes from what I've seen so far. Tried to add a WMC remote and that was fail-tastic.
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it's pretty bad. there's absolutely no range. you have to literally be standing directly in front of what you're using.. not off to the side whatsoever. the gs4 had better range and angles.
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Doesn't handle complex remotes from what I've seen so far. Tried to add a WMC remote and that was fail-tastic.
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Those are precisely my observations with the Verizon G2:
Windows Media Center 7 is next to impossible to control unless I am nearly touching the IR receiver.
My Panasonic V10 plasma is also next to impossible to control unless I am 2-3 feet from the IR receiver.
I can't get my Denon AVR to control at all.
Looks like I'm sticking with Ceton's media center app and my harmony one for a while longer.
Anyone try a different IR app?
Awesome
I had the S4 before and I love the remote on the G2. It's more basic but on my stuff it's faster and doesn't have all the watch on junk I don't care about. Also you can access it from the notification bar from anywhere and you can use it on the lock screen even with a pass code.
I find that it works, but like others have mentioned you need a pretty good direct line of sight. I have it set up for my Sony TV, Sony Blu-Ray, Pioneer Receiver and my Xbox. TBH, I haven't tested how well the xbox controlls work, but I had to manually program it using a different Xbox remote that I already had. Based on previous use w/ a physical Xbox remote, the IR sensor in the Xbox is pretty crappy, I don't expect the G2 to be any better. Bottom line: It's convenient at times, and annoying at others. total wash.
Thanks for all the responses. I don't mind that I need to be line of sight in order to use the remote control feature because who honestly is not facing the TV or what not when they are using the remote. These IR blasters are a new thing on smartphones so I am sure future generations will be better.
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Thanks for all the responses. I don't mind that I need to be line of sight in order to use the remote control feature because who honestly is not facing the TV or what not when they are using the remote. These IR blasters are a new thing on smartphones so I am sure future generations will be better.
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I was excited to try out the IR blaster on my new verizon lg g2 and was very disappointed as well. It's not that you have to be facing what you are controlling but you need to be really close. My couch is probably 8-12 feet back from the tv depending on where you sit, and it doesn't even come close to controlling anything unless i reach all the way out and lift my arm all the way up so the angle is perfectly pointing at the device. It's incredibly awkward and a complete waste of time. Oh and that is if i'm at the closest distance, anything further and it doesn't work at all no matter how I angle it. Don't get me wrong I love this phone but the IR blaster is pretty much useless. Maybe mine is defective but even during setup when i was standing 4 feet away I had to click multiple times for it to do anything. I read a lot of reviews on the device and didn't see anyone complain about it until I started digging.. All the major sites just raved that it had an IR blaster and that it worked similar to the other recent phones that have come out with IR blasters.. No mention that it has horrible range at all. I only found this thread and 1 others talking about bad range.
Could someone post the APKs? I accidentally deleted mine when I was uninstalling all of the bloat.
Same problem here...totally useless. I have 4 different brands of tv' sand I only can get it to work on one of them. Will not work with any directv boxes. Total crap.
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Same problem here...totally useless. I have 4 different brands of tv' sand I only can get it to work on one of them. Will not work with any directv boxes. Total crap.
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don't know about the negative comments but it seems to work great in my house Samsung hd tv sony hi fi and humax set top box hd all work excellently ? no problems whatsoever so not sure why maybe because im using it in a small room idk but ive no negative things to say about it
Works with my directv boxes and my Samsung tv. The drawback is you need to be close or our won't work.
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I hate it to be honest because it doesn't work half the time before root and after root. That's the only thing I miss from my s4.
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Will this work the default remote app is horrible and intrusive with their stupid reminders and ads.
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Will this work the default remote app is horrible and intrusive with their stupid reminders and ads.
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Give it a try. Let us know.
The only reason I could see it not working is if the LG IR sensor is able to record commands as well as send them... no idea if that's the case.
I agree 1000% on the stock Samsung remote, just awful. I haven't seen LG's app, but an absolutely fantastic universal remote app is Smart Remote/Anymote (I see it called both, not sure why it has two names but it's the same app). The app does cost a few bucks, but it's so worth it. You can make custom 'floating' remotes incorporating as many devices as you'd like, it has a massive library of pre-programmed remotes in any category you can think of, I can't even recall the other features but there are a ton of awesome ones. If you use the IR emitter a lot I'd strongly recommend checking it out in addition to the LG apk :good:
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The only reason I could see it not working is if the LG IR sensor is able to record commands as well as send them... no idea if that's the case.
I agree 1000% on the stock Samsung remote, just awful. I haven't seen LG's app, but an absolutely fantastic universal remote app is Smart Remote/Anymote (I see it called both, not sure why it has two names but it's the same app). The app does cost a few bucks, but it's so worth it. You can make custom 'floating' remotes incorporating as many devices as you'd like, it has a massive library of pre-programmed remotes in any category you can think of, I can't even recall the other features but there are a ton of awesome ones. If you use the IR emitter a lot I'd strongly recommend checking it out in addition to the LG apk :good:
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+1 on anymote/smart remote. 100% better than any remote app, and well worth the few $s spent. I've been using it for some time now and haven't found anything that's even close.
Just a quick heads up with anymote I do agree that it is a fantastic app however it was missing some profiles for my home theatre equipment which sucked and I had to request a refund, I've started using sure universal remote which works awesome for me and had all of the remote profiles I needed including the ones for the ac in the house and the roomba, I now play with that little vacuum like an rc car when I get bored lol
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On older devices such as lg g2 and galaxy s4 the apps were not interchangeable because of the different ir hardware. I would assume that's still the case since Samsung uses one way ir. I agree with smart remote being the best though, I use it on my note 4 and gear 2.
Thanks for all the input yes anymote is a lot better.
As the title says, because I really rely on my Note 4's InfraRed capability, not for TV Remote, but for Shutter Release on my Nikon DSLR Camera.
Not having an included IR Blaster could well prove a deal breaker on the S8.
Does anyone know if there is a workaround?
I would like to know this too...
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No ir. Sry. Im upset too. Keeping my s6 for another year it seems
Samsungs never bringing this back..Sad
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I wonder why they ditched it ? i see no reason for it... the phones is more expensive for each year weird.. its a good thing to have on your phone bah
I'm definitely going to miss the ir blaster, I just got it back with the LG V20.
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I wonder why they ditched it ? i see no reason for it... the phones is more expensive for each year weird.. its a good thing to have on your phone bah
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seems not a lot of people have used it , and that feature was not popular enough
In addition, it may cost a lot of money to include it, so they have decided to invest the money on another things
i always carry my LG G2 everytime i stay at a hotel. i need it to change the hotel tv input to hdmi to stream por.n
No ir blasters yet they continue to include the hear rate sensor. Do people really use the heart rate sensor?
Aww man, this just reminded me that I'm gonna miss using my IR blaster on my S6. T.T From what I know, I don't believe there's gonna be an IR blaster. I could be wrong, but if I'm not, RIP IR blaster.
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No it blasters yet they continue to include the hear rate sensor. Do people really use the heart rate sensor?
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I've heard that you can use it as another option for taking selfies with the front facing camera, at least that what the Samsung guy I talked to at Best Buy said, but besides that, I've only used the heart rate sensor a couple random times.
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In addition, it may cost a lot of money to include it, so they have decided to invest the money on another things
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And it takes up space inside the phone. Your average person wants a huge display with a decent battery in a slim phone, they don't care about IR blasters in their phone.
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Your average person wants a huge display with a decent battery in a slim phone, they don't care about IR blasters in their phone.
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that's bull****!
i guess the average person dont care about qualcomn quick charge 4.0 either, which let you charge 5 minutes to get 5 hours of talk time. that' why they probably take away and NOT included quick charge 4.0
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that's bull****!
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No it's not. If the average consumer wanted them, they would be in the device. I don't know anyone IRL who uses them.
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that's bull****!
i guess the average person dont care about qualcomn quick charge 4.0 either, which let you charge 5 minutes to get 5 hours of talk time. that' why they probably take away and NOT included quick charge 4.0
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Chances are, the people here on XDA or those that understand specs and need the IR Blaster...are not your average consumers. People tend to choose a phone by brand marketing, how it looks and the screen size etc. Not everybody has a passion for technology or understands what RAM, SoC etc is and how it all works...they just want to use the phone. Apple don't push specs at all, they focus on what the average consumer needs/wants to know and it works for them.
It is really a niche feature. Doesn't mean that you or others don't want to have it, of course it's nice to have and I would have liked it too. It's just that Samsung have deemed it surplus to requirements, they don't think it's helping them to sell phones. They took away a less popular feature to save space, costs and maybe even improve the aesthetics. Annoying for some, but I'm pretty sure the majority wouldn't even notice.
yes. i'm sure the majority wont even notice the headphone jack is missing on iphone7 or people dont really care about headphone jack, that' why they took it away
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They took away a less popular feature to save space, costs and maybe even improve the aesthetics. Annoying for some, but I'm pretty sure the majority wouldn't even notice.
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yes. i'm sure the majority wont even notice the headphone jack is missing on iphone7 or people dont really care about headphone jack, that' why they took it away
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The iPhone 7/7+ has sold very well despite the lack of a 3.5mm jack. You can still use 3.5mm headphones, you just need an adapter. And if the headphones have a lightning connector, those work fine. Even if they don't, the phone came with an adapter.
The IR blaster is dead along with CD's and VHS tapes. Line of sight device control is so 80's. Nothing I've purchase in the past two years relies on IR. Most are Wi-Fi or BT controllable with only one supporting RF (IR's beefier cousin) in addition to Wi-Fi. Hell, I have 40+ lightbulbs that are all Wi-Fi controllable. Time to let IR go. Each phone generation there are hues and cries about the loss of IR and FM radios. I'm surprised a thread on the latter hasn't appeared yet.
Well.. you can use something like a 3.5mm port IR blaster like this: https://www.amazon.com/Infrared-Universal-Wireless-Projector-Conditioner/dp/B01F54HKDU
I personally never tried it but theoretically it will work, just need the remote app able to convert the pulsing into audio to trigger the IR LED and it will light as pattern just like any normal IR blaster.
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yes. i'm sure the majority wont even notice the headphone jack is missing on iphone7 or people dont really care about headphone jack, that' why they took it away
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Apples to oranges. I'm certain that more people listen to music than need an IR blaster on their phone. Remotes do come with the products they purchase, usually. There was a big Internet explosion over the loss of the headphone jack, the IR blaster is dying out with a whimper. In fact, I only see complaints on enthusiast forums such as XDA. That says it all.
That being said, tech is moving on. It's sad to lose something that is so well known but the future is wireless and the same thing can be said about IR. My TV has many different ways to control it, with or without IR blasters or the remote.
No InfraRed ?? 950€ and no InfraRed ??
I'm upset me too ! I will return to Xiaomi immediately !
Ridiculous: I changed to Samsung S4 and then S5 also for theyr Amazing InfraRed = Remote control ... !!
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