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I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.
Yeah flashing a rom will do it
But try nova launcher first
spectheintro said:
I recently purchased an S4 (switched from an iPhone 5) and am generally enjoying it. However, the phone feels a lot more sluggish than it should, given its substantial hardware. I rooted the phone and installed TWRP, and am mulling over custom ROMs now.
My question is regarding the removal of the resource hog known as TouchWiz. If I understand correctly, the only way to remove it (and see any real benefits) is to flash a non-TouchWiz kernel and then an AOSP ROM, yeah? If I'm wrong, I'd appreciate a little guidance on what needs to be done to restore a more "stock Android" feel.
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Try a custom kernel also. Most do see a smoother experience after switching. Otherwise just do a nandroid and flash some custom ones. Then can always revert back if needed.
I feel ya on this phone. I came from a 2 yr old galaxy s2 and this thing runs worse than it did. Wonder why this super spec phone is so glitchy. Time to flash rom should fix it.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
I don't want to bother with rooting so switching to Nova Launcher Prime made my S4 experience so much better.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
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I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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miketucky350 said:
I thought that. After 3 generations of samsungs, ive owned. I figured its part of them. So I rooted/debloated/greenified and its running great. Im very picky on how my computers/phones run. I cant stand lag, and will not have it. I was just let down that the out of box "Next Big thing" Had the same lags as the sgs1. Yes we on xda can fix it but what about the average consumer? Hell no. Or would the average consumer not notice?
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I would think the average consumer would notice. The lag is considerable out of the box however it seems to not be 100% of the devices. Some have reported smooth operation since day one. Mine was not smooth but very laggy. The MDL didn't get rid of it and Samsung really needs to get on the stick and should be embarrassed to release the device in that state. Obviously I fixed the lag but with the specs it should of been smooth as silk out of the box. Personally I don't think Touchwiz is the issue but lack of optimization of the features.
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You have a bad phone if it's running slow
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If it is fixable by flashing a custom kernel/rom or custom launcher (reported by some) than don't see how it can be a faulty phone. Not by way of hardware anyways.
Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc
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Guys where is the lag? Are we talking just scrolling and stuff around on the honescreen? And just with TW launcher? Or in other places like running apps, browsing,etc
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For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.
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For me it was not just with the TW launcher and swiping, opening apps, waking up from power button, etc all had delay.
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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms
Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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miketucky350 said:
Lag was in and out of apps. Returning home. Scrolling through screens stock weather widget would take a few seconds to appear. All over felt quirky. After a lil tweaking it runs great
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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?
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Ok well yeh that sounds like a bad phone.I say that because mine is stock and dont have that problem.this is the fastest phone ive ever had. And of course you shouldnt have to install a rom to get your phone "right",so thats another reason I say bad phone.it should fly right out the box,esp bone stock before you add app s. I have over 200 and it zooms
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That is why i specifically said "not bad hardware wise anyways" since many are fixing it by flashing custom.
I do see the point you are trying to make and not trying to create an argument so please don't think that. You are lucky to get a smooth running phone right out of the box. :good:
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glad to her all is great
curious, what tweaking did you do?
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For starters I disabled some features. Went into svoice and disabled double tap home button. to open svoice. That adds lag to returning to home as it waits a few ms waiting for 2nd tap. Rooted of course and debloated the rom did a lot. No swype! Its laggy on everything. Plus a few days gone by and kernel & everything just setteling in. I have not flashed kernel or messed with cpu. Speeding up animations I've always felt it makes phone really glitchy so I leave it at 1.
Edit greenify also. disabled few apps like The Score that runs always. Greenify is a must. It should come stock
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Guys I just factory reset my note 10.1 2014...it was very laggy after reset but within minutes of usage it became extremely fast...no need to root and remove any bloatware .even s note app became fast and writing is very responsive...although reseting was a pain in ass..backing up bla bla....but it really is worthy....I just removed widgets from my home screen...there is no need to install any third party launcher...touchwiz itself is very responsive now..hope it help you guys..trust me..it really works...I m on mk1
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I mainly rooted because you can use multi screen and the pen window with any app and as many apps as you like. Also bloat ware takes space so nice to free up the space if I don't use it
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I think when people say removing bloat speeds up their systems is the just the placebo effect. In most cases bloatware has no impact on performance, where is does, it can be disabled. An example is this is Story Album, which can run in background trying to put together an album. But if you disable the app, it doesn't do that. Removing bloatware also doesn't add usable space in most cases since bloatware is typically located in the system partition. Unless you also resize the partition, which users typically even know how to do, the freed up space is still not usable.
Just nice to uni stall apps you never use and never will use
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I also found my magazine used battery and was always using cpu in the background. I froze my magazine and just use the flip board app saving battery and cpu
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No i just disabled some of the features like the eye tracking stuff, didn't actually remove them. Runs buttery smooth for me.
i installed nova launcher and set the window animation / transition / animator duration scales to off - and now i have no lag - i usually root all my android devices with custom rom and kernel but because there are not any for this tablet - i haven't even bothered rooted it - but if you change the launcher and set the scales to off there is no lag at all - and yes disable the eye tracking etc. stuff
Not necessary but recommended, at least turn off what's not really needed.
I've rooted to add more apps to multi window which is a great feature.
I have owned 3 samsung tablets in succesion and everytime I disabled apps it has speed up the device a bit. Not that there was lag before it just felt like new after debloating.
I've actually been on a "no-root November" experiment since the Note 2014 and S4 aren't root-friendly. TBH aside from having Touchwiz I've noticed no real impact.
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Guys I just factory reset my note 10.1 2014...it was very laggy after reset but within minutes of usage it became extremely fast...no need to root and remove any bloatware .even s note app became fast and writing is very responsive...although reseting was a pain in ass..backing up bla bla....but it really is worthy....I just removed widgets from my home screen...there is no need to install any third party launcher...touchwiz itself is very responsive now..hope it help you guys..trust me..it really works...I m on mk1
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May i ask what your update procedure was?
Some of Samsung's default programs really do suck balls. Their stupid index service caused infinite boot reloops because it takes forever to scan large pdf's. My Magazine has also gone haywire on me many times.
This is all stuff that requires a software update but none has come. Samsung tries to make powerful bloat but the tradeoff is that you get crap like an index service that gets stuck looping and sets your CPU to 100% and bleeds your battery dry in an hour.
Thanks but no thanks. I am waiting until a few months before voiding my warranty (or hopefully not and someone finds a way around knox).
What update procedure are you asking about...I never rooted..I got three updates out of the box..
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Just remove the samsung widgets from the homescreens and it flies.
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I sleep better at night knowing I disabled Knox on my tablet. So it was emotionally necessary for me.
I rooted so I could have virtual buttons and more control over my tablet. I went from wanting to break the tablet in half to loving it because of rooting. No regrets.
it is up to you if u dont use the bloatware u can remove it
G72-8X said:
it is up to you if u dont use the bloatware u can remove it
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But the speed-up effect is mostly a placebo. Also the effect on the battery will be insignificant. At least the data I check on my Note. So, I would say that this is not necessary.
And not everything Samsung put on the device is bloatware.
Elim said:
But the speed-up effect is mostly a placebo. Also the effect on the battery will be insignificant. At least the data I check on my Note. So, I would say that this is not necessary.
And not everything Samsung put on the device is bloatware.
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i see your point but it is better to remove it if u dont use it i have a SGS4 LTE and i love to remove the bloatware because now i have a faster phone and a longer battery life than the Stock ROM with the bloatware
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...and i love to remove the bloatware because now i have a faster phone and a longer battery life than the Stock ROM with the bloatware
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When someone has this expression then I already agree to remove it. But I still believe that removing the bloatware didn't make the tablet faster or the battery cycle longer.
But I am also sure that many people with bloatware many system functions they don't use and here you can most of them disable without removing anything.
So, when the question is if it is necessary to remove then my answer is still: Surely not.
PS. Its for me like the usage of all this task managers to kill processes. I mean we didn't live any longer in the 80ies and nobody will be manually better then Android in resource management. But still many Android users believe in the HOX that this fast their devices.
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When someone has this expression then I already agree to remove it. But I still believe that removing the bloatware didn't make the tablet faster or the battery cycle longer.
But I am also sure that many people with bloatware many system functions they don't use and here you can most of them disable without removing anything.
So, when the question is if it is necessary to remove then my answer is still: Surely not.
PS. Its for me like the usage of all this task managers to kill processes. I mean we didn't live any longer in the 80ies and nobody will be manually better then Android in resource management. But still many Android users believe in the HOX that this fast their devices.
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Rubbish, rooting makes a bug difference
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reubenskelly1992 said:
Rubbish, rooting makes a bug difference
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So, so and wish difference?
I mean when you here flame then you should also have arguments. And maybe you should quiet down a little bit because then you would see that rooting is something complete different then removing bloatware.
Okay, so I'm looking for a little input here because I am torn. I was an avid flasher and supporter of the AOSP ROMs until I got this phone. I used CM and PA and a few others just to see what I liked but none of them offered quite the features and stability of pure stock but this is where I am really struggling.
For the longest time this phone was super fast. It did what I wanted it to do when I wanted it to do it. I'm not much for the keyboard so I installed swype and that seems to be where my problems began. Since day 1 the messaging app was always a disappointment. It would lag, not open fast or when it did open in a message i would have to close it to get to the messages list. When I added swype to the mix it just sucked. The touch responsiveness was late and slow, a lot of times the keyboard would freeze up and i wouldn't be able to do anything for a minute until it would unfreeze. I just don't see why it's doing this because it has 2 gb of ram and a beast processor.
Anything you guys could add to help? I love the phone but it's getting to be about as slow to use as the Droid Eris
Pretty sure this thread is supposed to be in the Q&A section. Don't be surprised to see it closed. Regarding your issue, to say your G2 is as slow as the Eris is a bit of a stretch. I don't doubt you're experiencing some lag, but saying it's as slow as a phone with 288MB RAM and clocked at 528 MHz is a little ridiculous.
You say you encountered these problems after installing Swype. Perhaps get rid of that keyboard. I personally use the stock Google keyboard as it can be downloaded from the Play Store.
And seeing as you're rooted, perhaps look through the development section for your particular variant to see if there are any optimized stock-based ROMs that might help speed things up.
Flex rom + g.lewarne kernel.
More feature and faster
What stock features? IR Blaster and Camera are available. Knock wake works.
I only used stock about 24 hours, but I didn't see much else compelling.. Quick Slide? Ugh. Quick Apps or whatever? Useless. Navbar customization? CM or AOKP can do that, etc.
If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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its pretty much android that is lagging. not much you can do about it.
Sean473 said:
If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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I feel as though I shouldn't have to clear ram considering there is 2GB of it.
And even though there is that much ram shouldn't android manage that in the background.
I do realize that TRIM isn't implemented in android until 4.3 but still...
khaytsus said:
What stock features? IR Blaster and Camera are available. Knock wake works.
I only used stock about 24 hours, but I didn't see much else compelling.. Quick Slide? Ugh. Quick Apps or whatever? Useless. Navbar customization? CM or AOKP can do that, etc.
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It's more or less the camera that I really want. The aosp one is so minimalistic and lacking features but all of the ported lg cameras have features that don't work or are baked out of it to make it work. I also really enjoy knowing my phone can work 100% of the time without SOD's and no GPS (I do a lot of traveling in my free time). I need to know that if I am stranded in a town I don't know of I can pull out my G2 and call someone without any feedback or echoes and no drops in data
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It's more or less the camera that I really want. The aosp one is so minimalistic and lacking features but all of the ported lg cameras have features that don't work or are baked out of it to make it work. I also really enjoy knowing my phone can work 100% of the time without SOD's and no GPS (I do a lot of traveling in my free time). I need to know that if I am stranded in a town I don't know of I can pull out my G2 and call someone without any feedback or echoes and no drops in data
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So the one feature you want, stock camera, works fine in other ROMs. I believe there is a few things disabled in it but not much. Here's the list from the stock camera thread:
No Object Tracking. You know that thing where a grid of little boxes shows up on the screen and one of them will turn green as the camera focuses? That's missing.
No Audio Zoom. It's still enabled in the UI, but I've patched out all the methods relating to it, as they caused crashes.
No transparent navigation bar.
No rotating navigation buttons.
Performance tuning - it's possible that this will run slower than it would on an LG ROM. The LG rom includes a class called
(Not on the list on the thread) - Front-facing camera may or may not work
So yeah, object tracking is really the only functional change. Autofocus works fine, just not the little green boxes. Whatever the difference is. And avoid using the front camera.
AOSP camera is minimalistic, but what features are missing? Do you really need 10 scene modes? No. Let's be realistic, the AOSP camera isn't doing well with low light or close-up flash (blows the photo) so there are problems but overall it works okay. And the ported stock camera works fine except for one minor feature.
GPS works, no call echos, no drops, no SODs etc.. I have had none of these issues on AOKP. GPS there are libraries missing from the AOKP build, but the files to flash are right in the OP. Stock camera, Quick Remote, etc all works fine too. I can't speak for any other ROMs. Rohan32's AOKP 4.3 is the ROM I'm using.
Uninstall Swype (I and other people I know have lag issues with it eventually), use the Google keyboard. Use Nova Launcher (Nova Prime would be ideal) set animations there for very fast or off, install Screen off and Lock for Knock off feature and set it with the Double tap gesture in Nova. Install LagFix for TRIM and run it. Go to developer options and turn off all animations. Hope this helps.
Xenovias said:
Flex rom + g.lewarne kernel.
More feature and faster
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use this rom with the custom g2 kernel and its fast fluid and flawless as far as I can tell
Sean473 said:
If u have lag on stock, use a task killer to clear RAM when screen is turned off... Also root and use the fstrim app to TRIM your G2.... Mine never lags after this...
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Thanks. I don't have mine rooted because I want to keep stock full stock. But what I have found is that clearing the ram after shutting off the screen actually helps a lot. I have had much less lag since I did that.
Something funny happened today. I went into texts and set the auto delete to after 1000 texts. Talk about the problems that followed. My phone was completely worthless. Even after closing the app and then restarting the phone. I have over 5k texts in one conversation between my girlfriend and I so I thought that might be making the stock messaging app run slow. But the auto delete didn't work at all. After spending about 3 hours trying to get back into the app I had to turn it off before I could do anything...
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Thanks. I don't have mine rooted because I want to keep stock full stock. But what I have found is that clearing the ram after shutting off the screen actually helps a lot. I have had much less lag since I did that.
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if you root you don't actually lose any features you just "unlock" the phone to get extras. the only time you can lose features is when you flash a custom rom. even if you flash a kernel you don't lose anything.
tbishop91 said:
if you root you don't actually lose any features you just "unlock" the phone to get extras. the only time you can lose features is when you flash a custom rom. even if you flash a kernel you don't lose anything.
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Oh believe me I am fully aware of what rooting and flashing Roms and kernels does to my phone. I've been an avid android user for a while. I have been flashing since the eris but on this phone I always end up back at stock but I always lose info when I revert back to stock. I don't want to flash anymore. I just want my flagship phone to work like it was worth my money
Changing to row and interactive got rid of the very tiny bit of stutter I had once and a while. The "lag" is really just the the CPU waiting on the system to tell it to clock up. Stock profiles are too slow.
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Oh believe me I am fully aware of what rooting and flashing Roms and kernels does to my phone. I've been an avid android user for a while. I have been flashing since the eris but on this phone I always end up back at stock but I always lose info when I revert back to stock. I don't want to flash anymore. I just want my flagship phone to work like it was worth my money
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yea man I totally understand with the tmo verison I just rooted to rid myself of the bloat on the phone and it works beautifully.
bachera said:
its pretty much android that is lagging. not much you can do about it.
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That's not true at all.
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tbishop91 said:
yea man I totally understand with the tmo verison I just rooted to rid myself of the bloat on the phone and it works beautifully.
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My only issue is that I took the ota for Verizon and that broke root and I haven't found a successful exploit yet.
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My only issue is that I took the ota for Verizon and that broke root and I haven't found a successful exploit yet.
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yeah that sucks I broke my root but managed to down grade thro odin that sucked and was hard as hell
Hello, I have LG G3 for two months, it was an upgrade from my LG NEXUS 5. I really like the Design, camera and battery on my G3, but the performance was always poor. I did upgrade it over OTA, did a factory reset a few times, rooted to remove MacAfee. Now I even reinstalled software form a file (tutorial on forums). It is still choppy when I scroll web pages, play store is really bad. The launcher was also not smooth at all compared to my Nexus, now I am running Nova launcher it does help a little. Only essentials apps are now installed and I checked running services and remove the apps that have service, but I don't really use. Still feels like cheap dual core phone, far from Nexus 5.
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Why does G3 lag so bad when you scroll and how can I fix that?
You can reduce lag on home screen by disabling wallpaper scrolling.
There are threads on this already where you will find what you need. You can make this thing fly very easily.
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Very easy? I don't think so. Unless you can prove me wrong.
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Very easy? I don't think so. Unless you can prove me wrong.
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Under 5 minutes. Yes, very easy. Just do a search.
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Very easy? I don't think so. Unless you can prove me wrong.
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Proving you wrong is even easier than getting rid of most lag. Disable all animations, set transition scaling in dev options to zero, turn on hardware acceleration, do NOT reduce dpi as some here have advocated. No more complicated than checking a few boxes.
Unfortunately, running the stock rom, you'll never be able to compare it to the nexus 5. Once Cm11 is ready for prime time, it will be a comparable experience
Anyone experiencing weird lag on the note4?
I bought two note4 for my lines since one was to be given to father. I rooted both phones on the same day of purchase. I realized that for my phone, I'm experiencing some weird lag moments. Sometimes I would type fast enough to finish the sentence but the keys don't register until a few seconds later. Sometimes scrolling through a page, it would stop and wouldn't move until a few seconds later.
I'm hoping that this is just software issue. Can't wait til we have a custom recovery and rom to flash.
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Anyone experiencing weird lag on the note4?
I bought two note4 for my lines since one was to be given to father. I rooted both phones on the same day of purchase. I realized that for my phone, I'm experiencing some weird lag moments. Sometimes I would type fast enough to finish the sentence but the keys don't register until a few seconds later. Sometimes scrolling through a page, it would stop and wouldn't move until a few seconds later.
I'm hoping that this is just software issue. Can't wait til we have a custom recovery and rom to flash.
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Have you updated yet? While I don't have my Note yet, I have read that the update increases battery life, and also fixes lag issues.
Did you install xposed and wanam?
Daammnn...we got a bada** over here, rooted both phones at the same day of
purchase.
If I buy a new phone I would use it until the warranty expires.
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Rooted here with exposed and wanam. Even with new update, it's Extremely laggy. It was laggy before Wanam. Didn't use much before rooting.
I got wanam and exposed get a few lag spikes
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I see micro stutter and lag from time to time on stock rom.
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i also was expierencing this on a rooted and none rooted of my phone even after update so i changed my defualt messaging to hangouts and all is good
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Daammnn...we got a bada** over here, rooted both phones at the same day of
purchase.
If I buy a new phone I would use it until the warranty expires.
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Uh seriously? I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, why are you on XDA?
LAGGING everywhere on Build KTU84P N910FXXU1ANIE
Loving my Note 4... but
IT IS VERY LAGGY!!!
As it is, this incredible phone is completely spoiled by a jerky experience, and this is using Google Apps which are usually very smooth, like Play Store, Gmail, Hangouts, Google Plus, and other well made apps like Pulse and Facebook... all usually very smooth, but not with the Note4 I got yesterday. My nexus 5 was much smoother, with a much slower processor.
Do any of you in the UK have the update yet, I have not had it yet?
Cheers
Mark
You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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Uh seriously? I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, why are you on XDA?
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Uh? Do I need to root my phone in order to join XDA?
Also I would appreciate what factory ROM has 'served' me, and I would actually use the warranty given for hardware repairs since I'm a clumsy person.
English is not my first language so where do you mean 'sarcastic'?
Sorry.
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You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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Ah yes, the ability to search and read has been getting worse and worse.
I'm also getting random lag, even before root, xposed and wanam. Seems to be the same as the s4, s5 and note 2 previously. Once custom kernels are out with better scheduling, it should be remedied.
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You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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My phone is not rooted yet... if it cannot work without lag with the stock rom, I will not keep it and it will go back to EE... so I am hoping the update comes very soon. I suggest everyone who has just got their Note 4 does NOT root it until they are satisfied it works as well as they expect it to... it's a lot of money and you have the right to return it within 2 weeks if ordered online (in the UK/EU).
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My phone is not rooted yet... if it cannot work without lag with the stock rom, I will not keep it and it will go back to EE... so I am hoping the update comes very soon. I suggest everyone who has just got their Note 4 does NOT root it until they are satisfied it works as well as they expect it to... it's a lot of money and you have the right to return it within 2 weeks if ordered online (in the UK/EU).
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This is the United States.. If I don't like the phone, even rooted... I can return it.. If they don't let me, just file a credit card claim. I paid the phone, I own it.. I can do whatever I want to the software.
I hate it when people jump in scared of Knox or voiding warranty.
edouble312 said:
You guys should read the "root and what works" thread, because this was already solved. Wanam causes a conflict with Shealth and you have to go into Wanam, security hacks, disable secure storage. then go to settings/apps and clear s health data and cache and then reboot I've done this on the latest update, and now have no lag issues
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Will check it out.. I don't even use s-health so I didn't think this was the issue.
No lag here
Mine is VERY laggy, throughout all the menus in comaprison to my note3, running cm11 or hyperdrive.
I have xposed (which I think is the main issue, but I need it to run xprivacy), nova, the new firmware update, its rooted (post update) and wanam installed in order to get shealth working.
The phone itself is great, but the over all software implementation is pretty poor. No way a device from a major manufacturer, should be outdone in responsiveness by some AWESOME hobbyists.
With the same setup, as my note3 (side by side), screens change slower, scrolling is slower, and apps open a tad slower. The overall experience is just no where near as smooth as quick.
Now I am comparing 1yr of ROM development (hyper and temasek) vs a 2day release(stock note4), so of course some tweaks need to be made.
If you have a note3 rooted, might want to wait a few weeks before dropping $750.
Also I had to manually up the core speed to 2.7 in faux clock, mine was set at 2.3 for some reason.
The screen is AWESOME, the speaker is surprisingly nice, build quality and feel are top notch (no gaps, or peeling paint, or loose buttons!!!), and the camera really is nice upgrade that I didn't expect I would be happy about.
I only get 42,921 on antutu, which was what I get on my note3 at 2.3ghz ( not over clocked)
That's pretty bad overall performance out the box IMO.
Disabled a lot for me to get rid of the lag. Tons of background apps. Buy main resource hog is the tmobile apps
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