I find it really annoying that technology has come this far and yet we still have such slow data speeds while on a call. AT&T advertises this feature a lot...you'd think they'd give us at least solid H+ speeds...but it's much closer to EDGE speeds...even slower on the upload.
We all know that LTE phones drop down to H+ when you make/receive a call, since LTE doesn't do voice (yet), but I'd be thrilled to get even H+ speeds while on a phone call. Below are my results of my most recent test (make sure WIFI is off). Is everyone else on the S4 seeing the same thing?
Also, I Google'd around looking for some explanation as to why...but couldn't find anything but people on other phones complaining. Does anyone have a technical explanation of why this happens or why AT&T would need to throttle our data speeds? Is there just not enough bandwidth to handle voice and data at the same time? That seems very unlikely.
[PING] 96ms [DOWNLOAD] 28.06 Mbps [UPLOAD] 17.25 Mbps <----- Before call, on LTE
[PING] 83ms [DOWNLOAD] 10.87 Mbps [UPLOAD] 1.09 Mbps <----- Before call, on H+
[PING] 493ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.20 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.11 Mbps <----- Before call, on EDGE
[PING] 284ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.68 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.03 Mbps <----- During call, on H+
[PING] 286ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.76 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.03 Mbps <----- During call 2, on H+
No one else cares about this? I guess I'm just resigned to it being total crap too
I'm pretty confident that the networks can handle a ton more data speeds than what's pawned off to you. They have to throttle them just in case a ton of users get on the network at the same time. I'm pretty sure that some phones can use LTE and voice at the same time because they have more than one antenna in the phone. I know the iPhone 5 on Verizon when it came out became the first LTE phone (or at least a major device) that couldn't use voice and data at the same time on LTE because it didn't have the proper hardware to do it.
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I'm pretty confident that the networks can handle a ton more data speeds than what's pawned off to you. They have to throttle them just in case a ton of users get on the network at the same time. I'm pretty sure that some phones can use LTE and voice at the same time because they have more than one antenna in the phone. I know the iPhone 5 on Verizon when it came out became the first LTE phone (or at least a major device) that couldn't use voice and data at the same time on LTE because it didn't have the proper hardware to do it.
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I'm not sure that's at all relevant to the reason why they would throttle speeds during a call...or throttle them even more, in the case of your argument.
Yes, voice over LTE is a nice technology, but if it's throttled (if in fact that is what's happening), it might not increase bandwidth during a call at all. Who's to say having LTE data during a phone call gets you anything when having H+ data during a phone call gets you the puny/pathetic numbers I posted above?
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I'm not sure that's at all relevant to the reason why they would throttle speeds during a call...or throttle them even more, in the case of your argument.
Yes, voice over LTE is a nice technology, but if it's throttled (if in fact that is what's happening), it might not increase bandwidth during a call at all. Who's to say having LTE data during a phone call gets you anything when having H+ data during a phone call gets you the puny/pathetic numbers I posted above?
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Maybe I've understood something incorrectly.
LTE and HSPA+ are not the same thing. If your phone drops LTE during a call its going to have slower speeds
Not all phones drop LTE during a call.
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Go ahead and compare my normal H+ speedtest to my H+ speedtest during a call. That comparison is the entire basis of this post.
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I get **** speed on H+ even off a call I don't think there's a legitimate reason for why it happens. They just throttle it down unnecessarily most the time
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I get **** speed on H+ even off a call I don't think there's a legitimate reason for why it happens. They just throttle it down unnecessarily most the time
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I think 10Mb/1Mb is doable speed. If I got that on a call, I'd be perfectly happy for now. It's far from LTE speed but plenty to accomplish most tasks fairly quickly.
Unfortunately, that speed is WAY faster than what I'm getting while on phone calls.
I tried a test today with and without a call in progress and got roughly the same speeds. Did the test 3 times during, and 4 without a call. I'm thinking maybe it's the area your in or something.
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I tried a test today with and without a call in progress and got roughly the same speeds. Did the test 3 times during, and 4 without a call. I'm thinking maybe it's the area your in or something.
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Sounds like you were connected to WIFI during your tests.
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I tried a test today with and without a call in progress and got roughly the same speeds. Did the test 3 times during, and 4 without a call. I'm thinking maybe it's the area your in or something.
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Sounds like you were connected to WIFI during your tests.
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I think it might just be you/your device or your area. I tested 4 times, twice on a call, twice off a call just yesterday. I am using AT&T, getting 4G (HSPA+) in Florida. It's barely a difference in speed on call vs off call.
Yeah Jeff, it's not WiFi. I don't know if there's something wrong with your phone or your service.
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Yeah Jeff, it's not WiFi. I don't know if there's something wrong with your phone or your service.
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Thanks for the input - I'm not the only one though:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/307623-t-simultaneous-voice-data-vs-htc-one.html
I'd like to see more evidence from other users. So far pretty mixed. I'm in Florida (Miami) on LTE as well.
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Thanks for the input - I'm not the only one though:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/307623-t-simultaneous-voice-data-vs-htc-one.html
I'd like to see more evidence from other users. So far pretty mixed. I'm in Florida (Miami) on LTE as well.
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If you figure it out please post back here. I subscribed to this topic.
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jeffreii said:
Thanks for the input - I'm not the only one though:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4/307623-t-simultaneous-voice-data-vs-htc-one.html
I'd like to see more evidence from other users. So far pretty mixed. I'm in Florida (Miami) on LTE as well.
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Yeah, I'm unsure what would be different between you and I. I'm in Tampa/Temple Terrace and have no issues what so ever. The only day I had an issue was last week when AT&T was having network issues on the circuit in the area for all customers. Other than that, no problems.
It's not to say you're the only one with the problem, but it's awfully peculiar you're having it with such similar conditions to me.
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Yeah, I'm unsure what would be different between you and I. I'm in Tampa/Temple Terrace and have no issues what so ever. The only day I had an issue was last week when AT&T was having network issues on the circuit in the area for all customers. Other than that, no problems.
It's not to say you're the only one with the problem, but it's awfully peculiar you're having it with such similar conditions to me.
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I just ran all my tests again, this time doing the speedtests after the call and changing the test server to Comcast during the call.
[PING] 717ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.57 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.02 Mbps <----- During call, on H+, Server 1
[PING] 296ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.73 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.02 Mbps <----- During call 2, on H+, Server 1
[PING] 269ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.77 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.03 Mbps <----- During call 3, on H+, Server 2
[PING] 80ms [DOWNLOAD] 27.00 Mbps [UPLOAD] 22.24 Mbps <----- After call, on LTE, Server 2
[PING] 98ms [DOWNLOAD] 10.50 Mbps [UPLOAD] 1.07 Mbps <----- After call, on H+, Server 2
[PING] 339ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.17 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.10 Mbps <----- After call, on EDGE, Server 2
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I just ran all my tests again, this time doing the speedtests after the call and changing the test server to Comcast during the call.
[PING] 717ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.57 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.02 Mbps <----- During call, on H+, Server 1
[PING] 296ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.73 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.02 Mbps <----- During call 2, on H+, Server 1
[PING] 269ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.77 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.03 Mbps <----- During call 3, on H+, Server 2
[PING] 80ms [DOWNLOAD] 27.00 Mbps [UPLOAD] 22.24 Mbps <----- After call, on LTE, Server 2
[PING] 98ms [DOWNLOAD] 10.50 Mbps [UPLOAD] 1.07 Mbps <----- After call, on H+, Server 2
[PING] 339ms [DOWNLOAD] 0.17 Mbps [UPLOAD] 0.10 Mbps <----- After call, on EDGE, Server 2
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That's mind blowing bizarre.
You all are VERY LATE TO THE TABLE on this!!! AT&T has been throttling data speeds during calls for a couple years now. I have noticed its a tad bit faster than before. I can get about 1.5mb down, but upload is always 0.0mb.
I am betting once they go VoLTE, they'll still throttle, just not as much. What makes it so miserable is that the pings are in the 400s. Hang up and you get great performance.
T-Mobile DOES NOT DO THIS IF ANYONE IS WONDERING!
Then why does it do it only to some people? They sure don't do it to all.
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Can any Nexus One owners confirm that this is in fact true? I've heard mixed reports. PC Mag announced that T-Mobile rolled out the service Jan 5th, right before the Nexus One release http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/185916/tmobile_usa_finishes_upgrade_to_hspa_72.html
If you do have anything above 3.6M bps (the current ceiling) please state your speed and city. You can use the speedtest.net app from the market to verify.
I saw that too from a few different sources, I've tried on all 3 of my phones and haven't got over 1mbps yet, I saw people posting on the Nokia forums that they were getting 6mbps, I didn't see pictures to verify though. I'm in Folsom, CA with 3 bars and I'm getting 824kbps down and 205 kbps up right now on my Nexus.
I don't break 800kbits
Yeah my G1 is not getting it either, I thought maybe Nexus One would have it before they enable it for other phones...
People are confusing HSDPA with HSDPA+. HSDPA will get you up to around 700-800kbps. HSDPA+ will get you up to 3Mbps or so. T-Mobile just upgrade nationally from UMTS to HSDPA which goes from like 400 to 800 kbps, a decent improvement. Currently, only Philadelphia has HSDPA+ as the test market. Hopefully the rest of it will get it soon. All T-Mobile 3G smart phones have the hardware to do HSDPA and I think HSDPA+ as well, so you won't need a new phone when T-Mobile activates it on the towers.
1st run:down 380 up 294
2nd run:down 203 up 384
3rd run: down 360 up 295
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Just did a series of 5 speed tests of a 1MB file via a local server from different points in my downtown Seattle office. Gots download speeds of 256, 700, 768, 1119, and 1330kbps. Tried the speedtest.net app with various endpoints and got 1694kbps as my best download and 434 as my best upload.
Will try again from a different location downtown later tonight.
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Just did a series of 5 speed tests of a 1MB file via a local server from different points in my downtown Seattle office. Gots download speeds of 256, 700, 768, 1119, and 1330kbps. Tried the speedtest.net app with various endpoints and got 1694kbps as my best download and 434 as my best upload.
Will try again from a different location downtown later tonight.
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Where do you live? If not in Philadelphia, are you sure you turned off WiFi?
I had a good number of 1500+
kbps readings in Chicago
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Where do you live? If not in Philadelphia, are you sure you turned off WiFi?
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Seattle, WA. Double-checked, wi-fi is off. Just had a coworker with a G1 produce similar results.
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Seattle, WA. Double-checked, wi-fi is off. Just had a coworker with a G1 produce similar results.
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Sweet deal then, perhaps T-Mobile is still slowly lighting it up one city at a time. Still only 600kbps here in Pittsburgh
kbps and kB/s are different. 1000kbps is 125kB/s, making it about 2/3 of your low end DSL connection.
Also, jimbo831, you're mistaken. T-Mobile has been on HSDPA/HSUPA since the rollout began, and everywhere in the nation had 3.6mbit potentially available. Realistically, no one got this. They just flipped the switch to 7.2mbit HSDPA (which is NOT HSPA+ that's in testing in Philadelphia, as that is 21mbit).
I'm seeing speeds of about 1.2mbit since the switch, compared to .5 before the switch in Atlanta, GA.
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kbps and kB/s are different. 1000kbps is 125kB/s, making it about 2/3 of your low end DSL connection.
Also, jimbo831, you're mistaken. T-Mobile has been on HSDPA/HSUPA since the rollout began, and everywhere in the nation had 3.6mbit potentially available. Realistically, no one got this. They just flipped the switch to 7.2mbit HSDPA (which is NOT HSPA+ that's in testing in Philadelphia, as that is 21mbit).
I'm seeing speeds of about 1.2mbit since the switch, compared to .5 before the switch in Atlanta, GA.
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Well, I'm just using information that has been reported by TmoNews. And I don't think HSDPA is active everywhere then, or it is just slow as molasses here in Pittsburgh because my phone is still only running at 600kbps, which is only about 100kbps faster than I remember during my last speed test a few weeks ago.
Edit: I have verified otherwise. I checked the "Status" on my G1 and it only reads UMTS. So it looks like T-Mobile has been on UMTS, and still is here in Pittsburgh. I guess once I get HSDPA, my speeds will go up.
I just checked my phone is Oklahoma City and it showed HSDPA instead of UMTS under phone info. Cool!
Can someone tell me what's wrong with my testing results?
1st test: down - 450ish, up - 45...
2nd test: down - 550ish, and wtf.. up - 6 kbps -___-
These are all in kbps btw.
aad4321 said:
I noticed in certain areas of Philadelphia where I live that speeds can be about 1 mbit a certian towers and 3.5 at others. At the slower locations it says hsdpa too. On my nexus at the locations it said hsdpa but umts on my g1. When I can see the speed differennce it clearly shows that tmobile has not completely upgraded their network. I think we Need to call and complain
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Does this mean that the G1 doesn't support HSDPA, that it shows UMTS regardless of which 3G you're on, or if it just happened to click off HSDPA for that moment? I thought for sure when the G1 came out they said it was an HSDPA compatible phone.
Does the boost only effect 3g or Edge aswell?
Unfortunately there's no 3g in my area
Although I find PC World a reliable source, I think they meant to say AT&T. Here are three separate sources confirming AT&T with their HSDPA 7.2 rollout. And by the looks of other's speed tests, it isn't true for T-mobile.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2347725,00.asp
http://www.dailytech.com/ATT+Completes+Nationwide+3G+Tower+Software+Update+for+HSPA+72/article17308.htm
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17094/1/
Not actually done yet
Some cities got the green light but tmobile never actually made a press release I guess.
To clear up some misunderstandings:
For data transmissions (All speeds theoretical);
GPRS = 2G
EDGE = 2.5G
UMTS = 3G
HSUPA = A UMTS protocol/specification with speeds up to 5.76Mbit/s
HSDPA = 3.5G UMTS protocol/specification supporting speeds of 1.8, 3.6, 7.2(T-Mobile's latest upgrade) and 14.0 Mbit/s.
HSPA+ = 4G UMTS protocol/specification currently defined up to 56Mbit/s with potential of higher bandwidth. T-Mobile plans to start rolling this out mid 2010 with 21Mbit/s speeds.
byte = 8bits
Bandwidth is usually measures in Mbit/s(Megabits) where as download speed is measured in KB/s(Kilobytes). Divide your Mbit/s by 8 and you will have your download speed. So if speedtest says d/l bandwidth is 800Kbit/s then a file download would be approximately 100KB/s.
Alright now lets keep this thread on topic please and post only if your bandwidth is above 3.6Mbit/s which is the current theoretical limit in T-Mobile's network.
I ran tests with speedtest.net but I don't know enough to understand the results. Can someone point me to a good reference on EDGE/3G/wireless speeds? Or, just tell me, what do you think of these numbers. Is this slow, fast, average or what?
I'm in SF and chose the SF server:
3G Down: 979
3G Up: 1323
Wireless Down: 4402 kbps
Wireless Up: 3175 kbps
My 3g speed is actually better than your wireless speeds. Your location and of course how much the 3g network is being used in your area by others will contribute to slower speeds. But that still does seem fairly slow for 3g, maybe high traffic bogging down the network at the time you tested? Have you run any other tests?
I haven't run any other tests. Can you recommend any other tests?
Also, just for context, I ran the test from inside an old apartment building in a dense neighborhood between 8p and 10p.
that's pretty terrible
I get about 3.7meg consistantly down, 600k up in bentonville arkansas
speeds are alot lower than what i see in seattle, but on par with what i saw in most of O and Ca on a recent road trip.
I meant another speed test using the speedtest.net app, that would probably be the one of the worst times to run a test probably when theres the highest traffic. Just be sure you have a good signal when you run tests.
I just ran two more tests with speedtest.net, 10p PT. This time I made sure I had a decent signal (didn't pay attention last time).
3G up: 2226
3G down: 597
3G up: 1.04 Mbps
3G down: 1.05 Mbps
Honestly, the speed/performance has never bugged me or caught my attention because it was slow. But, what I'm gathering here is that I'm getting some pretty ****ty speeds, comparatively.
In Chicago we are only getting 1mb down 600-850 up....pisses me off...if tmobile doesnt raise it I need to consider att or sprint galaxy s....store claims speed in Chicago way behind rest of network and will get much better...i dont know if I can trust tmobiles network...is 3 mb common on tmobile 3g hspa like I have seen a few people claim in nj
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I ran tests with speedtest.net but I don't know enough to understand the results. Can someone point me to a good reference on EDGE/3G/wireless speeds? Or, just tell me, what do you think of these numbers. Is this slow, fast, average or what?
I'm in SF and chose the SF server:
3G Down: 979
3G Up: 1323
Wireless Down: 4402 kbps
Wireless Up: 3175 kbps
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uh, thats fine for normal 3g i think. t-mobile new 3.5/4g network will show higher numbers, but i think those are pretty normal for 3g.
i just did a speedtest and got 948kbs down and 1320 up. im in so cal with normal 3g, not new network
Is it weird that my up speeds are always greater than my down speeds?
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uh, thats fine for normal 3g i think. t-mobile new 3.5/4g network will show higher numbers, but i think those are pretty normal for 3g.
i just did a speedtest and got 948kbs down and 1320 up. im in so cal with normal 3g, not new network
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Ah, thanks for the reference. What's the "new network?" Is that the HSDPA+?
I get similar speeds on so. cal. as well.
Yes, the new network is HSDPA+. The coverage map for HSPDA+ is here, http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/?WT.z_unav=mst_global_cvg#.
I'm in Miami and I get an average of 2meg download and 1.5meg upload
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Parts of Jacksonville, FL have been upgraded to the "faster" 3G network. Other parts are still on regular 3G or even edge.
I'm on fast 3G right now. Just got 5087 kbps down and 1599 kbps up. Regular 3G usually give me around 1000 down, 600 up.
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I ran tests with speedtest.net but I don't know enough to understand the results. Can someone point me to a good reference on EDGE/3G/wireless speeds? Or, just tell me, what do you think of these numbers. Is this slow, fast, average or what?
I'm in SF and chose the SF server:
3G Down: 979
3G Up: 1323
Wireless Down: 4402 kbps
Wireless Up: 3175 kbps
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I think your speed is fine. If you dont try to download a HD movie to your phone through 3g you will be fine with youtubing and web surfing.
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In Chicago we are only getting 1mb down 600-850 up....pisses me off...if tmobile doesnt raise it I need to consider att or sprint galaxy s....store claims speed in Chicago way behind rest of network and will get much better...i dont know if I can trust tmobiles network...is 3 mb common on tmobile 3g hspa like I have seen a few people claim in nj
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I'm in Chicago and I get speeds between 1.5-5mbps up and 700kbps-1.5mbps depending where in Chicago I am and but more constantly 2mbps up, 800kbps down.
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I just got 192 down and 158 up inside the barracks at camp smith upstate ny... Back in long island I get 506 down 166 up
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Here in Sacramento California
When I use 3G I get the following average over three attempts:
149ms ping (145ms, 130ms, 174ms)
4891 kbps download (4922, 5212, 4539)
1322 kbps upload (1332, 1325, 1311)
When I use WiFi I get the following average over three attempts:
32 ms ping (31ms, 33ms, 31ms)
4179 kbps down (4130, 4049, 4359)
3163 kbps up (3338, 3019, 3133)
But, earlier when I was in the San Francisco bay area I was getting 1.6kbps down and .8 kbsp up.
I'm in the Suburbs of Seattle and I'm getting nearly 6mb/s download speed all the time.
This is second day on my G2. I have been unpleasant so far about using this as I come from using Nokia n900, iphone..
ever since using stock rom outta the box, the internet seems to be very sluggish.
Fast forward, I am now using Virtuous Desire HD rom, and the internet performance is very slow again.
apn: epc.tmobile.com
Is this a problem with g2 radio band or something missing here?
Thanks
download speedtest app and/or go to speedtest.net and give some more concrete numbers, also where are you and what kind of signal do you have, are you in HSPA+ area?
I am in a major metropolitan area inside HSPA+ footprint. (5bars and 3G logo)
haha going to speedtest.net, the site loads except for the main part of the page, the flash api and therefore I am unable to conduct the test. Maybe that will help you analyze how slow it's going.
Slow? Its twice as fast as my vibrant
ISP: T-Mobile USA
Ping:222ms
Download speed: 0.01 Mb/s
Upload speed: .23Mb/s
Distance: 150mi
I'm Blazinnn'!
maybe someone can go over the internet settings for me. Here is what i have. everything else blank
apn: epc.tmobile.com
mcc: 310
mnc:260
APN type: default,supl
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maybe someone can go over the internet settings for me. Here is what i have. everything else blank
apn: epc.tmobile.com
mcc: 310
mnc:260
APN type: default,supl
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Those are the correct settings... its sounds like your area has serious congestion issues. Can you put your sim in another tmobile 3g phone to confirm its the network and not your hardware?
I live in a well signal area, fields very fast and internet browsing is fast, faster than my vibrant
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I live in a well signal area, fields very fast and internet browsing is fast, faster than my vibrant
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Oh course it is but this guy is having major issues with hardware or congestion. with a normal situation... like most others... the G2 blazes. but this guy has a issue needing resolving so no silly comments please!
the slowest speed i have gotten was .15 - .25 mbps down 1.5 megs up there was a lot of congestion at my job at the time. avg i get is 3.45 mbps and peak was 5.5 mbps. I would definately call tmo for the issue
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ISP: T-Mobile USA
Ping:222ms
Download speed: 0.01 Mb/s
Upload speed: .23Mb/s
Distance: 150mi
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This is not at all what should be happening. I have sometimes gotten very slow speeds like 0.2 Mb/s down, but a quick reboot has solved the issue. Try the suggestion of putting the SIM in another phone or duplicate this in the store. Might be the phone, because if it were the network, many, many people would have complained.
My G2 is the same way. I am in Arlington/Alexandria, VA which is supposed to have HSPA+. Even when my device status says "HSDPA" I am usually only getting about 500kbps down. The funny thing is I still often get 1mbps up!
Right now here is what my "4G Speeds" are getting me:
Ping: 151ms
Down: 127kbps
Up: 330 kbps
Signal Strength: -85dBm
Network Type: HSDPA
APN Settings: default
I am running the updated stock 2.2 from TMO. I have gotten downlink speeds faster than 1mbps only a handful of times since I bought the phone in early October. What gives?
I just recently purchased my G2 a few days ago and it has speed issues as well. I live in Las Vegas which is supposed to have HSPA+ coverage, but my phone has been stuck on Edge since my purchase. My speeds have been horrible and TMo has no idea why.
Right now these are my speeds
Ping: 379 (Los Angeles,CA was the closest being only 75mi away)
Down: 35 kbps
Up: 26 kbps
Signal: -91dBm
Network type as of since I purchased the phone: EDGE (Been all around the city with same results)
Heading to the TMo store later tonight will update if it duplicates or not.
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I am in Arlington/Alexandria, VA which is supposed to have HSPA+. Even when my device status says "HSDPA" I am usually only getting about 500kbps down.
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HSDPA != HSPA+
HSDPA = 3G
Sephron said:
I just recently purchased my G2 a few days ago and it has speed issues as well. I live in Las Vegas which is supposed to have HSPA+ coverage, but my phone has been stuck on Edge since my purchase. My speeds have been horrible and TMo has no idea why.
Right now these are my speeds
Ping: 379 (Los Angeles,CA was the closest being only 75mi away)
Down: 35 kbps
Up: 26 kbps
Signal: -91dBm
Network type as of since I purchased the phone: EDGE (Been all around the city with same results)
Heading to the TMo store later tonight will update if it duplicates or not.
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Try checking then unchecking the "Use only 2G networks" under Settings>Wireless & Network settings>Mobile networks.
corrado85 said:
ISP: T-Mobile USA
Ping:222ms
Download speed: 0.01 Mb/s
Upload speed: .23Mb/s
Distance: 150mi
I'm Blazinnn'!
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Try checking then unchecking the "Use only 2G networks" under Settings>Wireless & Network settings>Mobile networks.
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Thanks for the reply. That was one of the first things I have tried, but alas I am still stuck on Edge everywhere. Maybe I have a bunk phone or something is wrong with my account. I have actually been receiving a text consistently since 4am this morning. It's from 10076200000 the only thing it says is <sisa:39972758:1:1:199:14095402>10hbrZBycJABgDIpGQ1XGw. It may be an error code of some sort from the network. I could be wrong, but from what I have been reading TMo sends out a similar error code (From 10476000000) for an error in their email systems.
I am heading over to TMo in about an hour. We will see if they have any insight as to what is going on. I will post back the results of the visit if it will benefit this topic.
ilikepu said:
the slowest speed i have gotten was .15 - .25 mbps down 1.5 megs up there was a lot of congestion at my job at the time. avg i get is 3.45 mbps and peak was 5.5 mbps. I would definately call tmo for the issue
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wuz up Trini? how da hell u gettin 5 down, the most I get is 2 down, i'm in ft laud, im getting like 3g speeds typically
Yes, I am aware that HSDPA is not the same as HSPA+, however the Signal Type screen does not appear to distinguish between "HSDPA" and "HSPA+". Case in point, later that same day I tested my connection at Reagan National Airport only .5 miles from where I tested earlier in the day and here were my results:
Downlink speed: 5393 kbps
Uplink speed: 1282 kbps
Ping: 102 ms
Signal Type: HSDPA
I assume that at those speeds I was definitely pulling from an HSPA+ capable tower, but the signal type still reads HSDPA. So what gives?
ibemad1 said:
HSDPA != HSPA+
HSDPA = 3G
Try checking then unchecking the "Use only 2G networks" under Settings>Wireless & Network settings>Mobile networks.
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Just read the thread and I'm sorry if I missed it if someone wrote this but could it be that your data plan hasn't changed from your previous phone?
Not sure how much that'll affect things but I know it made a phone of mine unusable until I corrected it.
My first G2 was stuck in edge 90% of the time. When I was on H it was very slow (less than 300kbps). Tmo CSR said it was defective and exchanged it. New one is good to go.
so before i updated to a new radio (12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03)
i ran speedtest and i was getting about 0.44Mbps
after the new radio update now im getting 0.37Mbps on HSDPA :/ how can i increase the crappy speed? I understand some 4g coverage isnt that good in the u.s but to get speeds that low on hsdpa.. theres gotta be something wrong
Yeah, that shouldn't be right. I can consistently pull 5-8mbps with an hspa signal, did you do the efs wipe after flashing the new radio and clear dalvik cache?
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dino310 said:
so before i updated to a new radio (12.56.60.25_26.10.04.03)
i ran speedtest and i was getting about 0.44Mbps
after the new radio update now im getting 0.37Mbps on HSDPA :/ how can i increase the crappy speed? I understand some 4g coverage isnt that good in the u.s but to get speeds that low on hsdpa.. theres gotta be something wrong
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Are you sure that you're not being throttled for going over your data cap? Those speeds are super low. Like the other reply I regularly pull 8mbps down and 3mbps up.
Sounds like your over your cap. No other reason that should be happening unless you have no bars and are in a basement.
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No, that's not throttled speeds. I was throttled and consistently got around 0.07 Mbps down and up.
I can see these 8 Mbps down speeds being plausible if you live in a metropolitan area, but if you live out in the middle of nowhere like me, the best download speed I have gotten is around 3 Mbps, but typically around 1.3-1.5 Mbps.
c00ller said:
No, that's not throttled speeds. I was throttled and consistently got around 0.07 Mbps down and up.
I can see these 8 Mbps down speeds being plausible if you live in a metropolitan area, but if you live out in the middle of nowhere like me, the best download speed I have gotten is around 3 Mbps, but typically around 1.3-1.5 Mbps.
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I see my best speeds in the suburbs, with fewer users. My slower speeds happen in places like Seattle with tons of people on the network obviously. I believe just a generally slow area giving 1.5mbps ish, but there's something wrong when he's getting only 0.40mbps
I am now testing in the suburbs as I'm visiting home from college.
Also keep in mind signal also plays a large role. I was just downstairs where my signal was -103 dBm, and my download speed was about 1.8 Mbps. Just went upstairs, signal was about -89 dBm and download speed was about 4.0 Mbps (measured twice at each location). Interestingly, both were with UTMS connections.
Wow, -103! The phone has no connection at -113! Eek.
You've found your problem.
Try using the 3g turbocharged script
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poormanq45 said:
Wow, -103! The phone has no connection at -113! Eek.
You've found your problem.
Try using the 3g turbocharged script
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That's not even OP... you're referring to the post above yours? He's aware of the lack of signal, which is why he's quoting it and saying that even at -103 he gets 1.8mbps.
I got around 12 Mbps with my old s3 at work and I did a speed test with my n4 same spot and can only get maybe 6 Mbps what gives I thought this phone had the 42 Mbps radio??
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Same here, my internet doesn't seem to be working like before. Sometimes it will work other times it won't.
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Exactly.
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it can be many different factors:
- location
- case/grip
- kernel
- baseband
thought i was the only one
horr1blek1tten said:
I got around 12 Mbps with my old s3 at work and I did a speed test with my n4 same spot and can only get maybe 6 Mbps what gives I thought this phone had the 42 Mbps radio??
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Check about phone > status and make sure you are getting an hspa+ connection. Check it when the mobile network is active and data is transmitting because it will drop down to regular hspa while idle. Also, in order to get DC-HSPA (which is required for 42mbps) it has to be available in your area. Not a lot of markets have it yet.
I get anywhere from 15-22 Mbps here in NY and that's with the $30 plan.
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24mbps in seattle area
This might not seem like much to you guys but I live in a rural area with no 4g and on my HTC sensation I got about 1mps
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I'm getting between 5Mbps to 10Mbps speeds with my Nexus 4 in Phoenix AZ.
Which is an improvement from my Galaxy Nexus that got 1Mbps to 3Mbps (yeah, that was HSPA+).
I'm on T-Mobile here in NYC and just received 19.5mb down and 1.6mb up.
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Check about phone > status and make sure you are getting an hspa+ connection. Check it when the mobile network is active and data is transmitting because it will drop down to regular hspa while idle. Also, in order to get DC-HSPA (which is required for 42mbps) it has to be available in your area. Not a lot of markets have it yet.
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I am getting hspa+:15 in the settings with speed test running in the background. What does that mean? 42mbps? Speed tests 6-7mbps at best with 1sec latency! Latency is worse than what I had on hspa 14 on the Samsung exhibit ii.
I am in Philadelphia. I thought we got hspa+ 42 a long while ago here. Although the network seems to always be congested here, often coming to a complete halt, forcing me to go to edge to send and receive emails.
[EDIT]: I think I was wrong on HSPA+ 42 being available in Philadelphia. We're still on 21. According to an article on android central we will get HSPA+ 42 on the 1900Mhz band here instead of 1700Mhz AWS. HSPA+ category 15, which is what the reading in the settings are showing, refers to HSPA+ 21 ... so no DC-HSPA here ... I hope the upgrades come soon, and take care of the congestion issues around the busy parts of the city during the day. It's stupid to have a smart phone that cannot even send an receive emails !
Here in Charlottesville, VA (where HSPA+ 42 is supposedly available), I am getting less than 512 kbps down with over 1000 ms ping. This was in an area that indicated HSPA+:15.
Did I get a phone with a bad radio? Or just a location thing?
This is consectutive tests on different servers further and further away (started with closest last is in south Dakota - pings suck but speeds are great)
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This is consectutive tests on different servers further and further away (started with closest last is in south Dakota - pings suck but speeds are great)
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You have a 3G icon... my Nexus 4 only shows H for HSPA. Are you on a custom ROM?
nope stock it switches back and fourth from 3 to H when I am not using the internet it is 3 I do something internet and H pops up.
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nope stock it switches back and fourth from 3 to H when I am not using the internet it is 3 I do something internet and H pops up.
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I've never seen 3G pop up on my Nexus 4. Strange. Either way, I guess my terribly slow speeds are a result of being in Central VA.
it is to save battery life it sits on idle afaik on 3g until you call up 4g - there is a post on it on the qa forums.