I have a epic runing DI07, rooted. Since I got the phone the GPS has been flawless, and i use google navigation everyday without the first issue.
But my phone is unable to determine its network location, so if GPS is off, an application can not determine my rough location.
Most of the time I don't care at all about this. However some application, "Weather and toggle widgets" uses network location to figure out where you are, and give you weather for that area, it will not even look for a GPS location. and no mater what it fails to fine my location.
I have also tested this with google maps, and every other app I have that can find my location based off what tower im connected to. I have reflashed, even rolled back to the old rom to see if it worked.
So i went into the sprint store and they told me it was working as intended. I called bull *(@# and said I wanted to exchange my phone. Dude at the counter had a moment and I showed him on the moment that with network location enabled and GPS disabled you get a blue ring in google maps showing the area you could be in, aka rough location. So he agreed to exchange my phone, we pulled out 2 more epics and tryed them both and they both behaved EXACTLY the same way. GPS lock was no problem, network location was 100% fail.
What is everyone elses experience with this?
bump. Just updated to DI18, "use wireless networks" still provides no location.
Works for me...
No problem here... running on DI07, stock but rooted. Turned off wifi, turned off GPS, turned on "use wireless networks for location" (forgot to mention) and started Maps. It definitely took a little while longer to lock on, but there I am with a big blue ring around little blue me.
Wanna go test my issue for me now
I would be forever grateful
Still no dice, anyone else want to test for me to see if this works or not for you?
update.
I pushed the NetworkLocation.apk from the samsung moment and rebooted and now its working great! It works over WiFi and over 3g/1x, and it didn't break GPS.
attached is the APK
So this past week I was having tons of issues with the cell-tower triangulation on my Nexus One. I've tried multiple things such as restarting, toggling the "Use Network Location" and mostly everything short of resetting the phone to factory default.
So I was playing around in the Applications menu and decided to just mess around with all the items there. Then, after clearing the cache on the "Google Framework" option, force closing, then restarting my phone, I was finally able to get cell phone triangulation working again!
The problem continues though, because after said procedure I was unable to access the market, or the downloaded section of the store only had 2 items listed. So I did another restart, the market works, but the cellphone triangulation breaks again.
Does anyone have a solution?
well sounds like somethings haywire on the software side of things, i'd try a factory reset/reflashing your current rom etc. or you could just use GPS i suppose
Matt1408 said:
The problem continues though, because after said procedure I was unable to access the market, or the downloaded section of the store only had 2 items listed. So I did another restart, the market works, but the cellphone triangulation breaks again.
Does anyone have a solution?
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Market problems are generally due to the ROM you're using, although most cooks have that sorted immediately. What ROM are you using?
And I've never heard of anyone anything on the Framework, maybe that in itself was kind of dumb? Have you rebooted or such to see if it clears up?
So what is the issue anyway? Where are you observing that cell tower info isn't working? And you've double checked, and maybe toggled off/on the setting for this?
OP, does triangulation work for you on EDGE?
I've been in this state (2G triangulation works but 3G does not) for about two weeks now.
Most probably a T-Mobile or Google data base issue...
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OP, does triangulation work for you on EDGE?
I've been in this state (2G triangulation works but 3G does not) for about two weeks now.
Most probably a T-Mobile or Google data base issue...
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This is true, at one point T-Mobile and 3G the lookups didn't work.. but I haven't heard this in a long time so I'd think
I really wish people would stop referring to it a "triangulation" though, it's estimation based on tower location and possibly data from Cell+Wifi+GPS data that Google has collected. There's no calculation going on.
I am glad someone brought this up. I thought it was just me.
'Estimation' works with EDGE on, but not otherwise. If EDGE is off, Google Maps takes me to the last estimated position!
I am sure something is broken in Maps.
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This is true, at one point T-Mobile and 3G the lookups didn't work.. but I haven't heard this in a long time so I'd think
I really wish people would stop referring to it a "triangulation" though, it's estimation based on tower location and possibly data from Cell+Wifi+GPS data that Google has collected. There's no calculation going on.
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OK, I believe accurate terminology would be "multilateration"
(there is an excellent Wiki article on this) which in turn is based on triangulation. The calculation is done either by the network, e.g. T-Mobile, or by Google based on the location of nearby towers...
I have the same problem as the OP. It occured since Tuesday of last week. I am also on Rogers in the Toronto and GTA region. Use wireless networks is checked under settings. The Enable location setting in the browser is also checked. However, when using 3G, location is unavailable when using the browser and it is also unavailable in the news and weather widget. RadioTime does not pick up my location either. In addition, when I travel into Toronto, the location in google maps is not updated to my new tower location. The location remains in Markham. Strange thing is that when I am on WIFI, location is available. I have tried using EDGE, same problem. I have also tried resetting to factory settings but no luck. I can confirm one of my coworkers is getting the same problem also on his N1. I don't think it is Rogers' problem since iPhone and Maemo users are having no trouble for location service on Rogers. I don't see how it is a problem on Google's servers either if location service is working for users of other OS. However, I don't know if any other Android devices on Rogers are having the same issues though. Can other Rogers users, Big 3 users, Wind/Mobilicity users confirm if their N1's are having the same issues? On a side note, my N1 is stock.
As far as the ROM/Phone. I am using the official FRG83D without any root or modifications to the firmware/bootloader.
It would not pick me up using Edge/wifi/3G and the only thing that did work was GPS. The weird thing is, it appears to be some issue with a service on the phone. The reason why I believe this is because if I went on the mobile Google, the page didn't ask me for permission to access my location.
After I cleared the cache on "Google Framework" and rebooted, everything worked fine and the browser asked me for my permission.
As madballs mentioned, it doesn't seem to be a Rogers issue as I was able to pop the sim card in my XPERIA and it was able to locate me just fine.
After going insane and going without sleep for the past 30 hours, I have linked the issue with the update to Google Goggles. Got rid of the update, location now works fine.
My N1's tower based estimation works ok on Solo (Bell's network). The estimatation is not as good as my Nokia N85 when I put the same SIM card in...
So I got into work today and same thing happened. The location services does not recognize that I am now in Toronto and not Markham. However, I tried out what the OP suggested and cleared the cache in the Google Services Framework and restarted the N1. It then recognized I am now in Toronto. This is quite strange. What does Google Services Framework do? And why would it not update when I travel into another location? It only stopped working last week. I will see if it changes back to Markham tonight when I get off work tonight. If it doesn't work, I will try deleting the Google Goggles update.
Same issues here ...
I am stock FRG83G on Rogers in southern Ontario. Been having this issue for a while but never bothered to look into it. I tried some of the tricks in this thread and here are the results:
- went to 2G - no improvement
- removed updates from Google Goggles and rebooted - no improvement
- Cleared cache and force stopped the Google Services Framework and rebooted and location is working.
I will edit this note if anything changes.
Update: Looks like clearing the framework loses your history of free downloads from the Market ... the paid items are still there.
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I am stock FRG83G on Rogers in southern Ontario. Been having this issue for a while but never bothered to look into it. I tried some of the tricks in this thread and here are the results:
- went to 2G - no improvement
- removed updates from Google Goggles and rebooted - no improvement
- Cleared cache and force stopped the Google Services Framework and rebooted and location is working.
I will edit this note if anything changes.
Update: Looks like clearing the framework loses your history of free downloads from the Market ... the paid items are still there.
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Oops.. But try this, launch AppBrain, sync, then exit Appbrain and try the market again. I noticed by accident once after restoring all apps using Titanium Backup that before I went into Appbrain the Market didn't know about my installed apps and afterwords it did.
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Update: Looks like clearing the framework loses your history of free downloads from the Market ... the paid items are still there.
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If you restart again, the Market will work correctly again, but the location services will break.
Same issue here on stock FRG83D since November 15.
I've tried both Rogers and Fido SIM cards. I've also done a factory reset and rolled google maps back. Nothing seems to resolve the issue so I've resorted to enabling GPS when it's available.
The same thing started happening to a friend's Acer Liquid E running 2.2 earlier this week. After clearing the maps data on their phone the positioning worked as expected once again but latitude isn't providing the correct location.
Today my N1 refused to update its position. After clearing the maps data it started to work properly.
Both phones are on Rogers and being used from Hamilton to Toronto...
Quick update. As I mentioned on post #11, I had to clear the Google Services Framework cache this morning before the N1 recognized I have left Markham and arrived in Toronto. I am in Markham now, and the N1 automatically recognized I am back in Markham now. Honestly, I have no clue what the problem is. As I stated, I have reset to factory setting a couple times the past week. I would tend to believe by reseting to factory setting is equivalent to clearing the cache. However it did not work then. So I dont know how by clearing the Google Services cache would work today. May be it is just a coincident. I will post again tomorrow when I am back in Toronto and see if the N1 recognizes the location by itself. Oh right, another thing tried was putting my friend's SIM card (he has a iPhone 3GS) into my phone, but no luck. I didn't bother giving him my SIM card to try since another poster on here said his SIM card works on his XPERIA.
beermike: Location services wasn't working for me on November 16th. Right before Eric Schmidt made his Gingerbread comment actually. I wish this hinted that Gingerbread was coming but then it's only us Rogers/Fido users having the problem.
P.S. This is probably not a Rogers issue. But I have to say, Rogers sucks. Too bad I'm on a corporate plan with them.
EDIT: I found another thread that some AT&T folks had this same issue back in May http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679636
Restarted phone yesterday night and location services is not working today again.
I believe the correct term all of you gentlemen are looking for is "A-GPS" or "Assisted GPS".
Per the issue, are these results being achieved with the GPS hardware setting turned OFF, and the mobile network/AGPS turned ON, or are both of these settings turned on and still unable to find an accurate position?
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I believe the correct term all of you gentlemen are looking for is "A-GPS" or "Assisted GPS".
Per the issue, are these results being achieved with the GPS hardware setting turned OFF, and the mobile network/AGPS turned ON, or are both of these settings turned on and still unable to find an accurate position?
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No, it's NOT assisted GPS as that includes the GPS, yes? As mentioned, it's more of this nature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilateration
A-GPS is when your cellular provider offers the phone ephemeris data which reduces the amount of time the phone has to calculate the satellite positions and improves accuracy and the ability to maintain a fix because the phone already knows where the satellites are without downloading such data directly from the sats themselves. And in this case of course you're using the GPS, not an estimated location based on your nearby cell towers.
Assuming tower location is correct (and KNOWN...), if you only have one visible tower you should basically show up as being at or near that tower. If there are multiple towers, some set of parameters allows some estimation or predetermined location based on the results. I've read multiple times in the past that when the GPS is in use on a cellphone and My Location (what Google calls the cell tower location stuff of course) is in use, it will upload anonymous data to improve their database. There are multiple such databases, although most of them would only place you at the known location of the tower and not take into account multiple 'visible' towers.
Here's an OpenCellID lookup: http://www.opencellid.org/cell/get?mcc=310&mnc=410&lac=15913&cellid=50762 If you look closely, directly east, across the shopping center there and just into what looks like a bit of an industrial work area there's a square patch with a shadowy place; that's the tower it's referring to.
I have the question regarding Triangulation.
Previously my phone was catching my location based on triangulation of antennas even when GPS was not ready and still searching for satellites.
Now when I hit MyLocation it always says unavailable until it gets GPS signal.
Strange enough my feature phone SE Cedar almost immediately gets the location (different carrier though).
What can be reason?
Check you location settings in the settings menu... That might be the problem?
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Check you location settings in the settings menu... That might be the problem?
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Well just read my post.
In location settings you have only GPS and WiFi.
As I wrote previously the phone was getting the Location BEFORE GPS kicked in,
now it doesn't work and why - this is my question.
And WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Google Maps show me today I'm in KarlsKorona while I'm in Warsaw!!!
What the f..ck?!
Hi all!
On JellyBean I had the location settings on Wifi+GSM networks, since GPS takes battery power and I don;t need a very accurate location. On KitKat, Google can't find my location anymore, so it seems. On Wifi/GSM Google Maps prompts "waiting for location", on GPS/Wifi/GSM is finds my location eventually but only by GPS location. No GPS reception, no location update.
Is there something broken here?
I'm running a stock EU Z1 compact, no root, no custom ROM or anything.
Same problem here. I no longer have any GPS settings on my phone. There is not even an option under Quick Settings to add a GPS toggle. The Sonly widget has a GPS toggle but it does nothing. Navigation software can not find the GPS either. I have no GPS.
The Google Location started working again a few days ago, without any action from my side.... Maybe some error in the Google service?
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The Google Location started working again a few days ago, without any action from my side.... Maybe some error in the Google service?
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Mine got going again after a factory reset and some software loaded on.
Do you have a distinct GPS quick toggle? I don't.
You can go to the Settings, Location menu and switch between 3 options: GPS+Wifi+Mobile networks, Wifi+Mobile networks and GPS only.
Lately my phone has been showing my google results in the wrong location. For example if I search for California Pizza Kitchen instead of showing the closest ones to my location (San Fernando Valley/Los Angeles) it shows me in Moreno Valley. This is true for everything that requires location including Google Maps EXCEPT when I use the turn by turn navigation the location corrects itself in Google maps but not anywhere else. This has become extremely annoying when searching for local businesses. I know this probably isn't specific to the S5 but need some help to rectify this. Thanks in advance.
Anybody?
I know this is going to sound far fetched but do you have WeatherBug installed on your device?
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I know this is going to sound far fetched but do you have WeatherBug installed on your device?
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Nope
WeatherBug was causing this issue for me and a simple uninstall /reinstall resolved the issue.
Perhaps you have a similar issue with one of your apps causing the issue.
I'd check apps that use your location as a possible culprit.
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Lately my phone has been showing my google results in the wrong location. For example if I search for California Pizza Kitchen instead of showing the closest ones to my location (San Fernando Valley/Los Angeles) it shows me in Moreno Valley. This is true for everything that requires location including Google Maps EXCEPT when I use the turn by turn navigation the location corrects itself in Google maps but not anywhere else. This has become extremely annoying when searching for local businesses. I know this probably isn't specific to the S5 but need some help to rectify this. Thanks in advance.
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Are you stock or root? Is it with the GPS on or network? Are you the google location settings on always? I had map issues on the s4, we wound up on a back road that was about 20 miles away from where we were supposed to..but I've not had issues on the s5. I'm stock, use enable gps and google location when using. Have you tried clearing the cache & data from the Gmaps app?
alright so it's also happening to my wife's note 3 on verizon and she is totally stock nothing fancy at all. Could this be a carrier issue with towers or something?
armeN0317 said:
alright so it's also happening to my wife's note 3 on verizon and she is totally stock nothing fancy at all. Could this be a carrier issue with towers or something?
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Like with what sainthooligan said, we need to know if you're using GPS or network to try and figure out what is happening. I personally havent had any problems with location. I use an app from the playstore called gpstest to keep my gps in check. You can clear and update the AGPS from the settings on that app.
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Like with what sainthooligan said, we need to know if you're using GPS or network to try and figure out what is happening. I personally havent had any problems with location. I use an app from the playstore called gpstest to keep my gps in check. You can clear and update the AGPS from the settings on that app.
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its in High Accuracy mode. I don't think its a location setting since she has a completely different phone and it's happening to her too.
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its in High Accuracy mode. I don't think its a location setting since she has a completely different phone and it's happening to her too.
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Try ticking GPS only mode and see if there is a change. If there is a noticeable change then it my be a network issue.
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Try ticking GPS only mode and see if there is a change. If there is a noticeable change then it my be a network issue.
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Switched it to GPS only maps works fine but google search results still show riverside/moreno valley area. Also cleared cache and data on chrome and google search app.
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Switched it to GPS only maps works fine but google search results still show riverside/moreno valley area. Also cleared cache and data on chrome and google search app.
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For "google search results" do you mean where the location is displayed from in the the browser? This is relative to the ip address of your internet connection through your ISP or carrier (see attached screen shot).
if that isn't relevant to what you noted, have you checked your location settings under Settings > Location > My places to see if you have something in there that shouldn't be for home,work or car?
So I had some more time today to troubleshoot this issue more in depth and boy you will never guess what I found. So all my chrome settings all my locations settings are correct all that stuff is good. And guys keep in mind this is happening to 3 separate devices with separate owners and gmail accounts on the same verizon plan. Turns out the Verizon Provided Samsung Range Extender was the culprit. Soon as I unplugged the range extender the correct location for searches and everything else was there. Now after power cycling the Range Extender it refused to find a GPS location. My range extender is located on a window pane and the gps united is extended to the top of the window about 8-9ft from the ground (basically as good a placement as possible). I contacted verizon and after long conversations with different reps they finally agreed the range extender is the issue. I am waiting on their technical department to give the ok for them to replace my range extender (they still seem to think its possible they may have an issue or outage with range extenders in my area and want to eliminate that from the equation before proceeding). Man I really would hate to wonder how this would have been diagnosed with someone not as technically inclined as myself and without the outlet of this forum for advise. So basically waiting on big red to OK a replacement for me and go from there. I'll update this post soon as I get to that step.