Samsung GS4 or GS4 Active - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
Contract is due up for renewal next week however with the confirmation of the Active and the fact that overall bar the camera it's basically the GS4 but with a much better build quality I'm very tempted to wait for the Active.
I know the screen is now just a 1080p LCD but this could be better as I know quite a few people don't like the AMOLED.
Wondered what peoples opinions are. **Also for what it's worth don't take loads of pictures so the fact the camera is only 8mp isn't an issue*
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Any opinions?
All this comes down to is if the LCD screen is good enough. Can it compete with samoled?
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I'm happy with my S4 i9500, but the active looks great to and its waterproof so it doesn't really matter which one you chose. It may be harder to get the galaxy active though, and the original S4 has gone cheaper now.
But of course if you go out swimming more often, or is exposed to the rain or moisture then the S4 active is definitely the choice to get.

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Very constructive.
Not too sure there will be much of a price or availability difference. From most reports seemed People preferred the little extra weight of the active also
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So who plans to upgrade to the tf700
Or whatever I'm within my 30 day bestbuy return so I probably will.
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Not me. Sure it would be awesome to have that powerhouse of a tablet. But the 300 does everything i need it to and more for a good price.
The problem is one of apps, not hardware. Too many phone apps not optimized for tablets. The T300 is more than good enough. :thumbup:
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Holding my upgrade till i see some windows 8 goodness or badness in upcoming tabs.
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The Infinity 700 isn't suppose to be a successor, just a more expensive and more polished version. 300 is for top specs on a budget, 700 is for top specs without a budget lol. If you have to pay extra I'd recommend just staying with the 300. With all the new events and tablets coming out not to mention Windows 8 I wouldn't recommend swapping if you already have a solid tab.
I'm my opinion the only thing the 700 has that I want is a brighter screen. Don't even really care about the resolution that much. Definitely not worth the 150 bucks more though.
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I copied my other post to give you my opinion on the TF300 VS TF700.
IMO it isn't substantial enough. Ok bear with me here, the new TF700 looks pretty cool and all but I see a few potential problems with it in the future.
Ok when Apple went from the ipad 2 to ipad 3 and the way higher res screen they knew the needed to have a CRAZY overkill GPU because not only did the ipad need to run current high demand games but also games in the future. Egypt screen off tests show how insane overkill the GPU is vs any other platform, but with the screen on benches obviously it drops a ton due to that resolution.
Here's one possible problem. You've upgraded the resolution on the TF700 but done nothing to the GPU to support the insane amount of extra pixels you've just added (and the CPU isn't even a MAJOR upgrade by any definition). So now games in the possible future may run like crap because you need to run it at such a high res without the CPU/GPU to back it.
A possible example of this is already happening is with the Acer A700, they put that 1900x1200 screen on it but have just the standard 1.3 Tegra 3 in it and it is having some serious gaming issues on games currently out. Now the only other difference between the TF700 and A700 is the TF700 is using DDR3 ram (Which I've yet to see any bench on any tablet that showed DDR3 having any major performance benefits) and the TF700 is running at a faster CPU speed (Same GPU speed). I'm not sure if the A700 problem is a software issue or the Tegra 3 simply can't drive the 1080p screen for intense 3d games but if the only difference between a game running smooth and choppy is 300mhz from the CPU then I see the TF700 having gaming issues very soon.
Also you have to remember there are almost no (Possibly no) apps that take advantage of that high of a res yet and by the time they start to be out in any number you'll probably be buying a new tablet with an 8 core CPU. But I have to admit text does look really nice on the TF700 screen.
That's just my personal feelings on it, I hope the TF700 doesn't run into the issue above but there is a reason Apple put that insane GPU in the ipad 3 and the TF700 isn't enough of an upgrade IMO. The extra battery time and IPS+ is pretty sweet but I just see that 1080P screen as a possible handicap in the near future.
Eh... not worth it.
It is like double the price for some little features I don't care too much about.
My next tablet will probably be an expensive windows 8 one with like i5 processor lol...
Not worth it to me. The tegra 3 is a disappointment to me. My tegra 2 A500 was just as smooth. I won't let the marketing hype get me again. Don't get me wrong, I love my 300, but if I would have had a 101 I probably would not have upgraded.
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Lots of valid points I looked at the iPad today and was blown away by the screen. Tablets are coming so fast it's too much to keep up.
Honestly I haven't turned it on this week.
Got the GS 3 too busy playing with it.
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Yes, I'm also within my 30-day window so I'll be returning my TF300.
Then I'll bounce off the walls for a week till I can pick up my TF700 on the morning of July 16th!
I was waiting for the tf700 for the longest time, until I realized that I could get the tf300+dock and a new phone for the same price. So, I picked up the 300 on Tuesday and f***ing love it!
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I will wait until there is a more robust gpu to support 1920x1200. The 300 is IMO a better fit for the Tegra's gpu. Especially for game emulators like N64, PSX and MAME Reloaded.
Another nice thing about the 300 is the touch response is as good as my iPad 3.
Now, if I did not play game emus and not had an iPad 3, I would probably switch.
I'm in the same camp. I just bought my tf300 and I have found it to handle everything I want very well so far. I can't see myself upgrading in the near future. I don't have the cash anyway. Haha.
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I had the Prime since launch and recently decided to sell it to purchase TF700 but after waiting for it to release for sometime I started looking at TF300 and luckily I got a great deal on Tf300 + dock from a fellow XDA member, which I received today and so far I like it a lot more than Prime (except for the lack of brightness). So for now I'm going to cancel my preorder and enjoy TF300 while I wait for a newer model that is significantly different from Prime/TF300/TF700 to justify an upgrade.
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what about me? i don't have a tablet yet and i want one, but should i wait for the tf700 or buy the tf300, i can buy it on amazon for $384 (tablet only)?
can you guys give me some advices, please?
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what about me? i don't have a tablet yet and i want one, but should i wait for the tf700 or buy the tf300, i can buy it on amazon for $384 (tablet only)?
can you guys give me some advices, please?
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Unless you REALLY want a high resolution screen, I do not think that TF700 is worth the extra money, specially since TF300 works great for everything.
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I concur with the last post. This is enough to run all I throw at it very well.
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Unless you REALLY want a high resolution screen, I do not think that TF700 is worth the extra money, specially since TF300 works great for everything.
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ajamils said:
Unless you REALLY want a high resolution screen, I do not think that TF700 is worth the extra money, specially since TF300 works great for everything.
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I concur with the last post. This is enough to run all I throw at it very well.
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what about the gorilla glass 2, i heard you don't need a screen protector if the device has gorrilla glass, and does this mean the tf300 is easy to get scratch,
i usually don't use my finger to "touch" the screen but sometimes i accidentally do, should i worry about this or just buy a screen protector?

Laptop dock as tablet/Asus Infinity alternative

I've been toying with the idea of getting a tablet like the Asus Infinity but after seeing the UK prices I'm having second thoughts and seeking alternatives, please check the link below.
http://www.cultofandroid.com/11917/...phone-into-a-beautiful-macbook-air-lookalike/
I was after the Asus mainly for the keyboard dock, I travel for work a lot and it would be a great help typing up long emails and reports during the evenings.
With this dock I fail to see any reason why I would need a tablet, as the Note is perfect for nearly everything else I would have used a tablet for anyway.
Can anyone see any other advantages of a tablet that I couldn't achieve with the Note and the laptop dock?
Thanks
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It looks good, but I suspect that it will be rather expensive. Plus, I am not sure how the Note or any smartphone will fair powering such a large screen. Their graphics are designed for their screen sizes - nothing bigger. If it works though, I am impressed. But, if you like the looks of the Infinity, check out its little brothers...the Prime & Pad 300 Transformers. They're not quite as good, but a lot cheaper!
I'm not sure that it will be really expensive, it is just a keyboard and screen after all.
The thing I like about this idea is that it will never go out of date, it will just upgrade every time you upgrade your phone. The only thing left behind will be the screen resolution but I think its supposed to be 1200x800 so not too bad
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I'm not sure that it will be really expensive, it is just a keyboard and screen after all.
The thing I like about this idea is that it will never go out of date, it will just upgrade every time you upgrade your phone. The only thing left behind will be the screen resolution but I think its supposed to be 1200x800 so not too bad
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Well, the Asus Transformer's dock is a $150 dollars, so this with a screen also will be a decent amount of money. Plus, it will go out of date as its screen resolution will soon be old.
Doesn't the transformer dock have a massive battery and usb ports etc adding to the price.
I was looking at the other Asus models but I think I'll wait for more info on this first.
I think it will cover my needs
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Nexus 10 or TF300

I really like the nexus 10 and I know this forum may be a little bias, but I am debating selling my tf300 with dock for a nexus 10.... thoughts/opinions welcome!
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Depends on what you really need. I had the infinity and the nexus 10 is miles ahead of it in my opinion.
300 pros:
-Keyboard dock with extended battery
-Expandable storage
-Insanely fast charging times
Cons:
-Slow I/o
-Rear speaker
-Tegra 3 (if you want to count this..)
Nexus 10 pros:
-Screen
-Battery (not comparing it to the Asus+dock)
-Front speakers
-Insanely fast
Cons:
-Slow battery charging (6 hours on full)
-Some games run slow due to the amount of pixels to push plus not yet optimized for the N10.
-No expandable storage
In the end it boils down to what you need, but I love my N10 and am not sugar coating it in any way. I tried the tf300 first, returned that for a 700. Decided I'd compare it to a note 10.1 and returned both and got the N10.
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Great info..thanks...
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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Define issue with web browsing? Do you mean laginess or sluggidhness? If so the n10 has none. It loads web sites very fast and has no touch or input lag via on screen keyboard.
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Any other thoughts? My biggest issue with thw tf300 has been the web browsing, but thats not really anything new.
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I'll let you know. I currently use the TF300 (stock), but am annoyed with the sluggishness concerning web browsing, e-mail, etc. My Nexus 10 is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be better.
Although I must say that I was reading about the Boat Browser somewhere on these XDA forums, and I had never heard of this browser before. I installed it a couple of days ago and it definitely improves the browsing experience on the TF300. Give it a try.
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Define issue with web browsing? Do you mean laginess or sluggidhness? If so the n10 has none. It loads web sites very fast and has no touch or input lag via on screen keyboard.
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Yes the laginess or slugginess... it has gotten better since the past few updates, but not what it should be....I am hoping i can get $400 for my 32GB tf300 with keyboard dock and a 16GB micro sd card and bluetooth mouse
I really beleive the nexus 10 is the better device...
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ualdriver said:
I'll let you know. I currently use the TF300 (stock), but am annoyed with the sluggishness concerning web browsing, e-mail, etc. My Nexus 10 is coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will be better.
Although I must say that I was reading about the Boat Browser somewhere on these XDA forums, and I had never heard of this browser before. I installed it a couple of days ago and it definitely improves the browsing experience on the TF300. Give it a try.
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I am very curious to hear your thoughts.... I have used Boat Browser, in fact i think i have tried them all.. ill have to see if i can find some youtube videos of web browsing....
cdrshm
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Take this for what its worth....I am a geek and have had 5 different tablets over the past few years. The loved my tf101 w dock...I absolutely loved my transformer . I skipped the prime, my tf101 was still rockin....my transformer died and I saved up the money for the infinity tf700 with dock. I absolutely hated it. It was like there was always something slowing it down and it made me think I just had a bad unit. Did some research and found out that after the prime Asus had a bit of an io issue with the memory , the infinity inherited the issue.
Got my nexus on Thursday and I love it like I loved my transformer compared to a gtab ....the difference between the nexus and the infinity are like daylight and dark. I also have to say its really badass having aosp in a perfect state...no cm or akop issues....love cm love akop but you all know what I mean. My point is...I love this tab compared to the infinity...screen is beautiful , proc is next gen, and jb4.2 is smooth as butter on this device...so many little things cleaned up, this may be the best android version yet.
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I really like the nexus 10 and I know this forum may be a little bias, but I am debating selling my tf300 with dock for a nexus 10.... thoughts/opinions welcome!
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If storage is your main concern, stick with the TF300, or better yet upgrade to the TF700. If it isn't, upgrade to Nexus 10. I came from a TF700 and the difference is staggering. Screen is much nicer, sound is much louder (and stereo placement!!!).
I've also owned the original Transformer, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (still one of best tablet designs hands down), the Prime and only the GT10.1 comes close to the Nexus 10 in terms of build quality (I wonder why ).
I'd recommend the TF300 over the TF700 for a few reasons, and neither over the N10.
Why the TF300 over the 700? It's less expensive, it's far more comfortable to use for long periods thanks to the not-sexy but also not-stupid plastic construction, more resistant to wear and abuse as a result, and it's not trying to whip a Tegra 3 into running 1080p resolution it is not suited for.
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If storage is your main concern, stick with the TF300, or better yet upgrade to the TF700. If it isn't, upgrade to Nexus 10. I came from a TF700 and the difference is staggering. Screen is much nicer, sound is much louder (and stereo placement!!!).
I've also owned the original Transformer, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 (still one of best tablet designs hands down), the Prime and only the GT10.1 comes close to the Nexus 10 in terms of build quality (I wonder why ).
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I am not concerned about storage at all, just performance and beauty.... I have tried to put my tf300 in the marketplace but don't have rights, anyone know who I need to talk too?
Thanks
Cdrshm
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I'd recommend the TF300 over the TF700 for a few reasons, and neither over the N10.
Why the TF300 over the 700? It's less expensive, it's far more comfortable to use for long periods thanks to the not-sexy but also not-stupid plastic construction, more resistant to wear and abuse as a result, and it's not trying to whip a Tegra 3 into running 1080p resolution it is not suited for.
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For me its either keep the tf300 or sell for the nexus 10
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Anyone have an idea of what to sell my 32gb tf300 with dock and 16gb micro sd? Mint condition!!
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Anyone have an idea of what to sell my 32gb tf300 with dock and 16gb micro sd? Mint condition!!
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I'm selling my TF300 today on eBay. I put a couple of other TF300s on my watch list just to see what they were going for. It looks like the tablet is going for the low to mid $200's. I don't know about the keyboard as I don't have one so didn't put it on the watch list. Also, if you decide to sell yours before Monday, eBay is doing a deal where if you sell an item through the eBay mobile app, you can sell it for free.
I played with the Nexus 10 for about an hour or so this morning. My initial impressions are that it is very zippy compared to the TF300. I remember first getting the TF300 and turning it on. All my apps starting downloading in the background automatically and while they were downloading and installing, the TF300 got really slow and laggy. With the Nexus 10, it was doing all that downloading and installing in the background and it was still silky smooth.
Overall, it's a much better device. The screen is obviously sharper. It is very quick to switch screens, cycle through apps, etc. If there's any lag, I couldn't perceive it. Browsing with the Boat and Chrome browsers is definitely zippier. When you scroll down a page, especially one with pictures, you can tell it just scrolls much more smoothly. I never saw that annoying "waiting for the browser to respond" which I normally saw at least once or twice per hour on the TF300. Anyway, that's all I've really done with it. I only use it for browsing and e-mail (I don't game on tablets), and for those purposes it is definitely a nicer, smoother machine than the TF300- which should be expected for its price and the advance in technology over the older device.
Stay away from Asus and the Transformer line. I'm telling you. They don't know how to write software, and they don't support their devices. I gladly sold my TF201 for the N10 and it was the best decision I've made. You've been warned.
I had the TF700 and was very disappointed. The i/o power just wasn't there. Most noticeable on web browsing - major lag. I sold it and so far I am quite happy with the Nexus 10 performance.
I had a TF700T / Infinity for close to 2 months -- just returned it this morning to Best Buy (reward zone silver -- 60 days to decide). I went back and forth on this a lot before returning it. My Infinity and dock didn't have any of the build issues that some have described -- no creaking, no screen lift, etc. The overall build seemed excellent, and overall the Infinity looks and feels like an incredible premium device. I also really liked the expandable storage and the extra battery power in the dock, and it really has a great display. When it worked, it was sweet -- but I ran into frequent lags, browser freeze-ups, slow app updates and file transfers, etc. I knew it was possible to unlock, root and flash a custom ROM to get better performance -- but I really didn't want to HAVE to do that just to make the device usable, especially since the combination of tablet and dock cost me about $650.
Reading through the TF700 sub forums, it seemed that about half the users had good experience using NvFlash and custom ROMs, but a significant number of folks reported frozen devices, boot loops, etc -- more than I'm used to seeing in most XDA sub forums. It seems to me that the device really wasn't intended to be easily flashable -- and easily recoverable in the event of issues. If I'm going to be flashing custom ROMs to my tablet, I'd rather it be a device sold with this in mind. Having used a Nexus phone (Galaxy Nexus) for the past year, I can attest to the fact that it's virtually impossible to brick this beyond the ability to wipe and start over. I appreciate this about Nexus devices.
I wish the Nexus 10 had expandable memory, and it would be nice if a pogo pin based charger option would be sold soon. Despite this, everything I read convinced me to return my Infinity today and order a Nexus 10.
Well it seems pretty unanimous for the nexus 10, as expected!!! I took the first steps and sold my tf300, now just trying to sell the keyboard dock. I am stoked about getting the nexus 10. Cant wait for it to be back in stock... thanks again for all the great info and personal experience!
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Despite this, everything I read convinced me to return my Infinity today and order a Nexus 10.
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Where did you order yours from?
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Returning to best buy.. want to restore stock.

Got my note and rooted it in less than 30 min and now I think I'm exchanging it for an Asus that is giving me a good deal. I noticed my firmware is li3.. I have n8013.. where can I find the Odin firmware.. I've only found the lh2.. or does it not matter? Has anyone been successful returning it back to stock with untripped counter? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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just do factory reset. they won't check it, don't worry. If you want, you can always download them at sammobile.com
Just return it. They aren't going to check anything
Even with a modded recovery? Lol seems risky to just return it all modded out aha
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So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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pezlomd said:
So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Wait, the tf300 has about the same size screen as the 10.1 (1280x800). If you want the 1920x1200 screen you need to get the tf700 infinity.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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pezlomd said:
So I can get a tf300 for 300 dollars right now.. do u think its a bad decision over this note.. I love everything about the note but the screen kills it.. and for 150 dollars less the Asus seems to be the better deal. Anybody want to give me some opinions on this. Still trying to make up my mind. Its really tough.
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I have the tf300 and when I got the note 10.1 it was not a contest. The note is obviously more responsive. The tf300 has a couple of good roms available and Asus is the best with updates. But I keep the note with me and the wife has the tf300. It might not be that big of an issue to you since you have note II.
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The processor and ram alone makes it better then that Asus....
The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
The note is by far the best. I had tf201 and tf700. Played with the 300 and it felt like a prime with better Wi-Fi. The note however beats them all hands down all around the block. Sure Asus updates quicker but they feel slower and stutter more. Not to mention you can kiss your warranty goodbye for Asus for custom roms.
Bottom line stick with the note.
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The note is way better than the ASUS tf300. The software and interface is better. The Note is faster and more responsive. I chose the Note over the tf700 for the same reason. I owned a Transformer tf101 for the last year and have played with the 300 and 700 extensively. Once I started playing with the Note it was over. I think the screen is quite nice, definitely better than tf101. II've only owned the Note for 2 days but I've been very impressed so far.
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Man my note 2 is just such a beast. You think they will give the same note 2 abilities to this bad guy note 10.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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I don't know why people are impressed with lots of updates....
Seems to me that someone who updates continuously is doing so because there are major problems with their OS... Look at windows, updates for vista were made everyday but with windows seven there are a lot less.
Just because updates are pushed by Asus doesn't mean its a better tablet, just that it is probably buggier and they're trying to play catchup...
The Note 10.1, though not perfect, was a very stable tablet from the day I powered it up for the first time. JB may be a long time coming but at least it should be a good, stable rom that is pushed out.
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I agree. But this is not why I'm considering it. Apart from the pen and touchwiz I feel like its about the same. Sure less ram but for 300 dollars it seams like a no brainer value. The note is quick I'll give it that and I'm starting to like it more and more but at times I feel like my note 2 has so much more to offer with the s pen, multiwindow jelly bean out the box. I thought the note 10 would be just as good. I can't even hover scroll with the pen like I do with the pen on the note 2.. the screen does look good but I would expect more from the price. I'll prob end up keeping this thing anyways tho.. hearing a lot of negatives about the Asus line. Even tho it seems just as good.
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Yes it has the same but its 150 dollars back in my pocket..I'm a lil bummed that there are others tablets for the same price with much better resolution. I have a note 2.. and things look better on it than the 10.1... basically I just want some Input on whether its better to save 150 and go with Asus or stick with the 10.1..
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It really comes down to how you use your tablet IMHO. I want to use my tablet like a notebook with a pen and paper like interface, so for me the Note 10.1 was the best fit. The price difference was a factor at first when I was deciding between a tf300,tf700,nexus 10 and Note 10.1. But in the end, the most important thing for me was the user interface on how i used the device. The S-Pen and the applications like S-note, were exactly how I wanted to use a tablet device, so the price difference and even the screen resolution didn't matter nearly as much. I'd say look at how you are planning on using the device, and decide based on that first. Price is a factor but if you save 150 but don't use the device as much because you lost important features you didn't realize were important to you, then the savings weren't worth it IMHO.
I owned the tf300 for three weeks. It was purchased from BB for $269, 16G version. The tf300 was returned to BB and I pickup a note 10.1 for $459. Much more than I wanted to pay but this tablet is great.
Tf300
okay tablet but the bootloader was locked - my device would not unlock with Asus tool.
lagged
Qual score about 3400
Galaxy note 10.1
rooted with custom Rom - took me about one hour
Run really fast qual score about 5700
Screen looks good
I will keep this tablet for three weeks than make a decision.
I didn't have any problems with the bootloader unlock tool by Asus but many others did. If price is an issue then consider the nexus 10 over the tf300. Some of the issues with the tf300 have been fixed because simple tasks like downloading apps would cripple the tablet and cause the play store to force close. A few updates and a move to "Clean Rom" had everything running smooth. You wont be blown away with the note 10.1 because you have the note 2.
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I have both the note 2 and the 3g note 10.1 with the jelly bean update. I love the 10.1 because it has not given me any major issues with regards to crashing etc it is super smooth with the quad core and 2gigs of Ram. Yes the display may not be as good as the newer transformers but everything else is much better in my opinion.
With the jelly bean update, it is as good as the note 2 because it contains all of its features but on a larger screen which is far more practical for professional use such as taking notes at meetings etc. The multitasking is also more meaningful on a 10.1 unless you are using the smart dock for the note 2 or connecting via an mhl cable to a larger display.
I have no regrets having both devices. If price is one of the biggest factors for you then go for the Asus otherwise stick to the note and you will not regret this decision. A number of people think initially that the pen is not going to be used that often but after putting it to practical use, they soon change their opinion about it.
I have come from the original transformer so do not notice or mind a reduction in display quality as the notes one is more than adequate and if I want true hd quality, I just connect it to a TV or projector with hd via an mhl lead or the all share cast dongle.
blcistheking said:
Is the note really worth the $450 even if you have no plans on using the s pen.
I played with one for a couple of minutes in bestbuy on Wednesday but couldn't get over the price point especially since i don't see myself using the s pen, worse now that the tf300 is $300 for the 32gb model.
My biggest need is a really good, quick, responsive web browsing experience. It seems like the tegra 3 is not equipped to offer me what I need but im not sure if the exynos can handle it either.
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You get what you pay for. As someone said above, the TF300 is a de-contented Prime with better wireless which makes it over a year old both in design and components. The Note supports 5GHz dual-channel Wi-Fi with channel bonding (like the newest iPad), has BT 4.0 (the TF300 is 2.0 and the TF700 3.0), dual-channel RAM, 2GB of RAM (vs. 1GB), Glonass support for location services, two forward facing speakers, a flash for the rear camera, and a larger battery.
You specifically mentioned web browsing. All Asus tablets suffer from IO issues caused by their choice of storage solution. When there are background processes running the browser and UI can become almost unusable. There are hacks available to make things better but the device needs to be unlocked and that voids your warranty. Adding $100 for SquareTrade (unless you don't care about a warranty) puts the two devices closer in price. And multiview, even without S Pen, is a really cool feature in a 10” device.
Here's a component comparison between the TF700 (a "better" device than the TF300) and the Note. If there's a corner that can be cut, Asus will cut it. You'd be better off picking up a used Note or N10 off of eBay or CL to stay in your price range than buying a year-old new TF300.

Thinking of returning my tf300...

Okay, so a little over a week, and I'm thinking of returning this, and getting a note 10.1.
Sounds is a little quiet. Word processing isn't that great, considering it's got is own keyboard dock. There is some keyboard lag.
I love the quick charging, touchpad though.
Biggest problem is the flex. This tablet creaks and flexes. Makes me a little worried about durability. Any thoughts and input would be welcomed.
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mrbkkt1 said:
Okay, so a little over a week, and I'm thinking of returning this, and getting a note 10.1.
Sounds is a little quiet. Word processing isn't that great, considering it's got is own keyboard dock. There is some keyboard lag.
I love the quick charging, touchpad though.
Biggest problem is the flex. This tablet creaks and flexes. Makes me a little worried about durability. Any thoughts and input would be welcomed.
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I personally have a tf300, and I work at Best Buy where I have sold dozens of them (many with docks). Our display model goes through ALOT of abuse with our customers, kids, and my co-workers who don't know how to use it, or set the device in it. It still works perfectly fine, and has no problems. I can vouch for the durability of the tablet and its dock. I really think this is the one of the best tablets. I am also familiar with the Note. Its expensive, but its another favorite at Best Buy. One of the most advanced tabs we sell. No dock though.
Ended up returning it. Bought a note from Costco for $430.
Hopefully the next generation of transformer has its own " office" suite that works flawless. Also, reading the forums has me thinking that I shouldn't have updated to jellybean out of the box. The note is just much " sturdier" , no flex.
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I just don't see $130 worth of difference between it and the Asus though. I've only got $359 invested in my tab AND dock and it's nice. I have no idea what you're talking about dock keyboard lag either. I've used mine a bunch and never once experienced any lag.
When it all boils down to it, all that matters is that you are happy with it though.
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wetbiker7 said:
I just don't see $130 worth of difference between it and the Asus though. I've only got $359 invested in my tab AND dock and it's nice. I have no idea what you're talking about dock keyboard lag either. I've used mine a bunch and never once experienced any lag.
When it all boils down to it, all that matters is that you are happy with it though.
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No lag in the stock note app, but in Polaris, kingsoft, and quick office pro. I think that is on the edge of being perfect, next version I will consider.
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stick with the note forget asus
R3Z4545 said:
stick with the note forget asus
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+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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tritran18518 said:
+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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Yeah but that dock is a huge PLUS. I love mine. The added battery life is nice too.
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you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
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tritran18518 said:
+1 for note 10.1. Keyboard dock is the only thing that Asus tf300 better than 10.1.
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Samsung take forever to release updates (it took them over 3 months to get Jelly Bean on the Note 10.1 when the TF300 already had it).
The Note 10.1 also just doesn't feel as premium compared to the TF300.
The only real benefits I can see that the Note 10.1 has are: Audio, Faster Processor and an extra 1GB of RAM.
Admiral2145 said:
you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nexusae0_wm_do-not-buy.jpg
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I try not to root my tablets, only my phones. I lost a couple of documents while typing them. Kind of put me off, but the killer is the weight balance and flex. Never reallly felt comfortable holding it wth one hand. Also, for pure speed, I would have bought an n10. I did enjoy the fast charging and extended battery with the dock, not to mention the touchpad.
The note definitely has a more premium feel in hand, aspecially the balance and glass surface. Resolution ist as good though.
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you can wait what other samsung tablets get release this year
samsung takes it time to update but so does asus they might see 4.2 before us
Asus are generally quick with updates in my opinion. The transformer TF300 was one of the first devices (outside of the nexus devices) to receive JB if i'm not mistaken
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It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.
They are already porting 4.2.1...It's easy because the nexus 7 is the TF300T minus sd card and dock(7 inch screen).
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I really do think that Asus has something here. I love the galaxy note as well. If I could basically take the camera and dock from the Asus and merge it with the note, I would have a perfect tablet.
Also a dedicated word processing app that works flawless with no chance of data loss.
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you didn't unlock the tablet? the 300 is a monster with a unlocked bootloader and cleanrom, better yet the fastest tablet out next to the tf700...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...iew-an-embarrassing-lazy-arrogant-money-grab/
http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nexusae0_wm_do-not-buy.jpg
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- Well, back plastic of our tf300 just a little better than the note 10.1 but users will buy a case anyway so that is not a a bif problem , i think.
- 10.1 runs slowly on stock rom. Same thing happen to our tf300. Stock rom on our tablet is [email protected] ( can't even load webpages normally)
- camera, i believe most users don't usually use their tab to take pics
==> for $100 more , note 10.1 have better processor, 2gb ram, s-pen, better display. I think note 10.1 is better choice if you have money to buy one. Or even buy an ipad 3, which is very good for daily use.
p/s: i bought my tab from craiglist for $230 and for that amount of money, i have nothing to complain about. But if i bought this tab with full price, i will regret for sure.
tritran18518 said:
- Well, back plastic of our tf300 just a little better than the note 10.1 but users will buy a case anyway so that is not a a bif problem , i think.
- 10.1 runs slowly on stock rom. Same thing happen to our tf300. Stock rom on our tablet is [email protected] ( can't even load webpages normally)
- camera, i believe most users don't usually use their tab to take pics
==> for $100 more , note 10.1 have better processor, 2gb ram, s-pen, better display. I think note 10.1 is better choice if you have money to buy one. Or even buy an ipad 3, which is very good for daily use.
p/s: i bought my tab from craiglist for $230 and for that amount of money, i have nothing to complain about. But if i bought this tab with full price, i will regret for sure.
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I disagree on the back. The note 2 has way less flex but isn't as grippy.
Agree on the camera, I rarely use them.
The display on the tf300 kicks the crap on the note resolution wise, but I love using the s pen. It's a wash, cause the screen (gorilla glass) makes me trust the Note more.
As far as cases, almost impossible to buy a tf300 case without going online, I went the lazy route and for it from Best buy for the note.
All of these could have been avoided maybe by buying the 700 but price wise, it just brought me back to the Note. Do miss the usb drive though.
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