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What do you think, will the Google Nexus One get the love of Ice Cream Sandwich from Google officially?

If not from Google directly, I have no doubt someone at some point will ROM hack it for the Nexus One.

I wonder if the N1 will have enough system space to handle ICS initially. I'm sure someone will eventually figure out some sdcard trickery that will make it work either way. The sdcard on my Xoom with Honeycomb 3.2 works very differently than on the N1 and apps must use the Android MediaStore API to detect everything. My guess is there will be some app growing pains around this bit like there has been with the tablet apps.

Nexus S isn't much more powerful than Nexus One. Nexus S will get ICS, so nexus One too

Both will get... Why? Becuz our phones are under Google... So we might be getting otas from google... By the time it releases...
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I hope they don't have the same issues they had with gingerbread releasing 2-3 months later
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I would be more concerned with whether they drop to AOSP quickly, like they did with froyo.

The last i heard Google already confirmed Nexus One will get ICS since theres no hardware requirement anyways...

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I heard the same news too, and it came out of my ass. How about yours?

XIAOMI anounced a few weeks ago they will launch a MIUI ICS, and will continue to provide support to other devices.

as of GRK39F /system has only 15MB available, so I don't think the N1 will get it officially. We'll have to wait to see if they can fit it in 145MB but I don't think so.

spamlucal said:
as of GRK39F /system has only 15MB available, so I don't think the N1 will get it officially. We'll have to wait to see if they can fit it in 145MB but I don't think so.
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They could have at least twice that amount of space to work with if they drop the frequently unwanted bundled apps like Twitter, Facebook, and Books. If I want them I know where to get them.

I guess it will be the same? Becuz if official cm9 is release, the rom size should be 89-94 mb....
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lolobabes said:
The last i heard Google already confirmed Nexus One will get ICS since theres no hardware requirement anyways...
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This is how bull**** lies get spread.
No you did NOT hear Google confirm ****, because they never have. Stop with the lies, it does the community no good.

woop woop
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Maybe cyanogenmod rom will be available for the N1. CM9 maybe. I didn't hear that they will have one for N1 but I heard that CM will work on the next Gen CM Tom.
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I hope that Cyanogen makes a cooked-up rom to mirror ICS for the N1.

sl8125 said:
Maybe cyanogenmod rom will be available for the N1. CM9 maybe. I didn't hear that they will have one for N1 but I heard that CM will work on the next Gen CM Tom.
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Considering that the htc dream/G1 can run CM7, i would be extremely surprised if the nexus one wouldnt get ICS on CM9

I doubt, google will release some kind of OTA, but there will be some mods

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/google-confirms-nexus-s-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich-for-real/

Do we get 4.2 update?

Does anyone thinks that, Nexus 7 will get 4.2 update? As we just received 4.1.2 update few days ago. It will be surprising, if we get update soon...
Whats your thoughts?

Yes, this is a nexus device,
We will likely get it the same day.

Rxpert said:
Yes, this is a nexus device,
We will likely get it the same day.
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This. That's why you go nexus, after all

Rxpert said:
Yes, this is a nexus device,
We will likely get it the same day.
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Does all past nexus devices runs on 4.1.2?

hirenvasani said:
Does all past nexus devices runs on 4.1.2?
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[DEV] [ROM] [N1] Evervolv Jellybean w/ nightly builds
JellyBean on the Nexus One

5.0 isn't even questioned let alone 4.2. Nexus 7 will be getting updates for quite awhile. The only way Google wouldn't update it is if they decide to get all Samsung on us and reskin AOSP in PNGs made at Industrial Light and Magic
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Nexus devices will always have development until the hardware can no longer handle the os. To put things in perspective, the nexus one runs jellybean pretty well, from what I'm reading.

The Nexus One got cut off by Google at Gingerbread because the system storage was only 190MB and ICS and JB would never fit on the partition. Developers got around it by resizing and creating partitions on the MicroSD Card.
Nexus S officially got 4.1.2 by Google and it's only a single core, 1ghz, 512MB shared RAM device.. Only 340MB of RAM is usable on stock kernels and it runs JB decently. Custom kernels allow it to have 407MB of usable RAM by using Big HIGHMEM.
Nexus S has been one of the best supported, best performing (considering its age) phones I've ever owned.. When I finally replace it I'm not selling it as I'm keeping it as imo it's a legendary handset.. I think 4.1.2 is the last official update the phone will see though. While JB runs decent on it, it's obvious it's pushing the limits of the phones hardware..

styckx said:
The Nexus One got cut off by Google at Gingerbread because the system storage was only 190MB and ICS and JB would never fit on the partition. Developers got around it by resizing and creating partitions on the MicroSD Card.
Nexus S officially got 4.1.2 by Google and it's only a single core, 1ghz, 512MB shared RAM device.. Only 340MB of RAM is usable on stock kernels and it runs JB decently. Custom kernels allow it to have 407MB of usable RAM by using Big HIGHMEM.
Nexus S has been one of the best supported, best performing (considering its age) phones I've ever owned.. When I finally replace it I'm not selling it as I'm keeping it as imo it's a legendary handset.. I think 4.1.2 is the last official update the phone will see though. While JB runs decent on it, it's obvious it's pushing the limits of the phones hardware..
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The Nexus 4 could be a future star, I mean I can't see Android actually needing 2 GB RAM & quad-core SoC as a minimum requirement until Arm releases their V8 64-bit chips for smartphones in around 2015.

styckx said:
The Nexus One got cut off by Google at Gingerbread because the system storage was only 190MB and ICS and JB would never fit on the partition. Developers got around it by resizing and creating partitions on the MicroSD Card.
Nexus S officially got 4.1.2 by Google and it's only a single core, 1ghz, 512MB shared RAM device.. Only 340MB of RAM is usable on stock kernels and it runs JB decently. Custom kernels allow it to have 407MB of usable RAM by using Big HIGHMEM.
Nexus S has been one of the best supported, best performing (considering its age) phones I've ever owned.. When I finally replace it I'm not selling it as I'm keeping it as imo it's a legendary handset.. I think 4.1.2 is the last official update the phone will see though. While JB runs decent on it, it's obvious it's pushing the limits of the phones hardware..
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The nexus S is awesome I agree. I can't say I'll ever get rid of mine too.
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Nexus S won't get 4.2 (oficially)

There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
continue using 4.1.2.
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https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA

Thats just because any Nexus device will receive any update later than 18 months since it has been release. Last update 4.1.2 occurred on august (19m), so no more updates.

Ok, devs, start porting.
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Relax, there's a post by JBQ saying that he can't comment Nexus S and Xoom, so maybe is a little hope for us

F***K Google if they'll stop supporting Nexus S! They know that the device can perfectly handle 4.2 but for their f*****g commercial reasons they'll not do it! Hate that policy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

XDA Developers ... start your engines ... Ready, set, PORT!

deltatux said:
XDA Developers ... start your engines ... Ready, set, PORT!
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Okay, they can port 4.2 to Nexus S. However, that will not be as powerful as AOSP.

aladin6 said:
Okay, they can port 4.2 to Nexus S. However, that will not be as powerful as AOSP.
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How do you figure? Android 4.2 doesn't look that different than Android 4.1 except the dual pull down notification menus, updated apps, lock screen widgets and some security features. To be honest, I've seen ICS ports done on Froyo-only devices like the LG Optimus G2x (P999) and they work fine with only a camera bug.
It won't be as clean as AOSP but performance should be pretty good. Hell, there are Nexus One devices running Jelly Bean as we speak. Google said there wasn't enough internal storage to do it but it's being done.
deltatux

deltatux said:
How do you figure? Android 4.2 doesn't look that different than Android 4.1 except the dual pull down notification menus, updated apps, lock screen widgets and some security features. To be honest, I've seen ICS ports done on Froyo-only devices like the LG Optimus G2x (P999) and they work fine with only a camera bug.
It won't be as clean as AOSP but performance should be pretty good. Hell, there are Nexus One devices running Jelly Bean as we speak. Google said there wasn't enough internal storage to do it but it's being done.
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What we have seen so far is that 4.2 is not a major upgrade ... though we may have many changes . when JB can run on nexus one why not on nexus s. Lets hope for best
Debashish

deltatux said:
It won't be as clean as AOSP
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You affirmed my idea .

deltatux said:
How do you figure? Android 4.2 doesn't look that different than Android 4.1 except the dual pull down notification menus, updated apps, lock screen widgets and some security features. To be honest, I've seen ICS ports done on Froyo-only devices like the LG Optimus G2x (P999) and they work fine with only a camera bug.
It won't be as clean as AOSP but performance should be pretty good. Hell, there are Nexus One devices running Jelly Bean as we speak. Google said there wasn't enough internal storage to do it but it's being done.
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bad google

CM10.1 will bring 4.2 to this phone.

revamper said:
CM10.1 will bring 4.2 to this phone.
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You have reason, yes for sure, however, Google policy is bad, very bad for not providing AOSP!

aladin6 said:
You affirmed my idea .
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You said that it won't perform as well, not that it won't be clean lol.
deltatux

deltatux said:
You said that it won't perform as well, not that it won't be clean lol.
deltatux
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If we have NOT a clear ROM(non AOSP) comparing to a clear ROM(AOSP) so the second one will absolutely perform well and better .

deltatux said:
It won't be as clean as AOSP but performance should be pretty good. Hell, there are Nexus One devices running Jelly Bean as we speak. Google said there wasn't enough internal storage to do it but it's being done.
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If Google officially supported the way the Nexus One runs JB I would go buy a Windows 8 phone tomorrow.. It's great for the adventurous end user but re-partitioning SD cards to cram an OS onto a phone would be insanity for any legitimate company to actually support as a viable means of maintaining a device.
Fact is, JB struggles on the Nexus S. It is NOT `buttery' and never has been. Is it acceptable? In most cases. But you have to look at it from Googles view.. They can't keep supporting a device that is walking the fine line between a usable consumer product or a usable toy for a tech nerd to fiddle with.

I think Google kinda forgot that the Nexus was somehow a developer phone. Who cares about photosphere and facelock consumer crap?

styckx said:
If Google officially supported the way the Nexus One runs JB I would go buy a Windows 8 phone tomorrow.. It's great for the adventurous end user but re-partitioning SD cards to cram an OS onto a phone would be insanity for any legitimate company to actually support as a viable means of maintaining a device.
Fact is, JB struggles on the Nexus S. It is NOT `buttery' and never has been. Is it acceptable? In most cases. But you have to look at it from Googles view.. They can't keep supporting a device that is walking the fine line between a usable consumer product or a usable toy for a tech nerd to fiddle with.
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Okay, i admit, i'm very poor in English .
I just want to undersand that sentence :
If Google officially supported the way the Nexus One runs JB I would go buy a Windows 8 phone tomorrow
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here is the google factory image from gnexus https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/takju-jop40c-factory-1a47c890.tgz enjoy cooking

aladin6 said:
Okay, i admit, i'm very poor in English .
I just want to undersand that sentence :
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Although JB does run on a nexus one, it's not particularly fast or smooth. It's there mainly to prove it can be done and because people like a challenge, but it's not particularly usable.
We don't actually know what's new in the core of 4.2 and if the NS can actually run it, until someone ports it. We may end up having the same problem as the Galaxy S. Samsung didn't officially update it to ICS because there simply wasn't enough RAM left after installing TouchWiz. I don't like to say it, but the Nexus S is kind of at the end of its life (update-wise).
Some of the features in 4.2 would be nice....the new camera app, quick settings...and we'll probably get them, but through a custom rom.

[Q] How long do you think the Nexus 7 will be supported with OTA from Google?

Just want to see folks predictions about this really. How long do you think it will be before Google will leave it behind?
Nexus One: April/May 2010 - October 2011 (No offical update to 4.0+ )
Nexus S: December 2010 - October 2012 (No 4.2)
Really the Galaxy Nexus will be the next to feel google dropping support of OTA but how long does the N7 have? July 2012 - 2014/15?

i think max 2014
Android 5.0 and 5.1(if they will)

darkmatthew said:
i think max 2014
Android 5.0 and 5.1(if they will)
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No 4.3, 4.4, etc.?

Looking for what year do you think they will stop updating it. Forget Android version numbers as Google might just go from 4.2 to 5.0 to 5.5 or whatever.

Ste_JDM said:
Looking for what year do you think they will stop updating it. Forget Android version numbers as Google might just go from 4.2 to 5.0 to 5.5 or whatever.
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My bet is that N7 will be dropped somewhere in Q1 2014

Fatal1ty_18_RUS said:
My bet is that N7 will be dropped somewhere in Q1 2014
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Just as an add on: There will more than likely be unofficial roms past that too, hopefully
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kilometers4 said:
Just as an add on: There will more than likely be unofficial roms past that too, hopefully
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends

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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Yeah, that's better than nothing
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Maybe CyanogenMod/AOKP/AOSP/etc uodates , but nothing more, since there will be no newer bases to build upon after N7's support ends
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Exactly! Its a very capable device and its a Nexus.. We wont leave it behind!

I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect

I honestly wouldn't worry about it. Nothing lasts forever, so enjoy it while it's there.
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Mid to late 2014, is my guess but who knows maybe it will be for as long the hardware will support it
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hambino3 said:
I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
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What about the Nexus One, S, and Galaxy Nexus? All pure android with no bloatware.
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hambino3 said:
I think about 2014, we do still have devs also updating some faster then google. This is the first offical google ONLY device made by google, any cellphone has the overlay of the manufacturer. ASUS makes the nexus7/10 and again its only google software no overlay from ASUS. I think it will be suprisingly longer then we expect
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Samsung makes the nexus 10 not Asus...
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I feel the Nexus7 will continue to be supported as long as it can handle the new OS and until Google releases another 7in tablet
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Looking at android versions, the Galaxy nexus could even be dropped at the next android release; it seems they're speeding up their android releases.
Which means maybe the next version of android might be the N7's last, unless both JB's only counted as one...
I think they might turn the Nexus line into an iPad type thing - with N7 second generation coming out some time around July. All just guessing though...
No idea. Personally I'm not too bothered about big updates to Android coming sooner - it would be better if Google worked more on bug-fixing - I'm sick of the media server bug, the less than advertised battery life etc on 4.2. They should also focus on getting developers to make more tablet optimised apps, unifying the Android experience (it really annoys me when an app has loading circle / progress bar from gingerbread etc).

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Looking at android versions, the Galaxy nexus could even be dropped at the next android release; it seems they're speeding up their android releases.
Which means maybe the next version of android might be the N7's last, unless both JB's only counted as one...
I think they might turn the Nexus line into an iPad type thing - with N7 second generation coming out some time around July. All just guessing though...
No idea. Personally I'm not too bothered about big updates to Android coming sooner - it would be better if Google worked more on bug-fixing - I'm sick of the media server bug, the less than advertised battery life etc on 4.2. They should also focus on getting developers to make more tablet optimised apps, unifying the Android experience (it really annoys me when an app has loading circle / progress bar from gingerbread etc).
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It will certainly not just be one more version, I expect 5.0 and at least 5.1 updates for our device. And when support stops it will be do to the lack of RAM (really wish they crammed 2GB in this thing)
As for apps, Google publishes Android guidelines. They can't hold a gun to developers heads and make them do things. Vote with your wallet on poorly designed apps, it isn't Google's job.

When are Marshmallow ROMs Coming to the Nexus 7 2012?

I was saddened when Google didn't announce the Nexus 7 2012 to get Marshmallow, but I want to be on the newest version of Android. When are the ROMs coming?
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I was saddened when Google didn't announce the Nexus 7 2012 to get Marshmallow, but I want to be on the newest version of Android. When are the ROMs coming?
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Have you had any success with lollipop on your 7'12? Mine is totally useless, cannot work due to lag and freezing when on L, and I doubt M works any better. The '12 really wasn't to last as long as we've used ours. It's still a decent tab with KK installed and not asking too much from it. I doubt M will come out way.

I agree...
I think the last usable ROMs working decently on N7 2012 where those base on android 4.4.4, so I don't even plan to try any M based ROM on it

I think there is something seriously messed up on the '12 Lollipop. It runs great after the initial boot. Hell, even with apps. Then it comes to a crawl after a few days. If you run Trim, it whips back into a performing tab for a short while again. I'm hoping to at least try Marshmallow on my '12. If there is something really messed up as I think, I hope M fixed it. My Nexus 6 runs much better on M than it did L - yes, I know different hardware but things seem more efficient from the software side.