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Excuse me if this has been covered before, but is there a way to backup the device in a way, that if i root it, and then flash some ROM to it, and i mess up or just want to go back to my previous state?
I read something about nandroid? But in order for me to do that, i need root. Correct? so, what if i want to "unroot" my device? and is nandroid suitable for the Desire?
What does nandroid actually do? Does it back up everything?
nandroid makes images of all of the disk, so it's a full backup, but it's having issues restoring those backups to the Desire at the moment. And yes, you'll need to at least get to the recovery menu to run nandroid for now.
The only other route of which I know is just backing up apps and data, and you can use Titanium Backup for that (or MyBackup, I think). Without root, when you restore the apps, you won't be able to tell the Market you have these things installed, though. Doing that still requires you to fully reflash and do some setup, though. I don't think there's a cut-and-dry backup and full restore method at the moment. If there is, I'd certainly be interested...
I am also in the hunt for a good backup application. Dont mind paying as long as work as it should. But i dont think there is any backup application that can backup applications (most of them maybe just supported some limited apps).
kuailan said:
I am also in the hunt for a good backup application. Dont mind paying as long as work as it should. But i dont think there is any backup application that can backup applications (most of them maybe just supported some limited apps).
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Titanium Backup will back up everything that's on your phone except for apps installed by the system (and those it'll try and backup if you're rooted). It's worked flawlessly for me.
The Professor said:
Titanium Backup will back up everything that's on your phone except for apps installed by the system (and those it'll try and backup if you're rooted). It's worked flawlessly for me.
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I am trying Titanium now at the moment....just wondering I have seen a lot of application backup options/lists?? but where is the options to backup SMS, contacts, etc?? I find the UI is a little complex.
So is the best way of doing it.. Backup.. Copy folder to pc...
Then when i wanna restore.. Install titanium. copy license and folder back?
kuailan said:
I am trying Titanium now at the moment....just wondering I have seen a lot of application backup options/lists?? but where is the options to backup SMS, contacts, etc?? I find the UI is a little complex.
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Titanium backup only does apps.
Personally I use MyBackup, it backs up settings, sms, calender, home screens, settings e.t.c. as well as apps and keeps market links intact.
Well worth the money.
Ive got both now lol! have to wait till i install a new rom.. ill try mybackup first then
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Titanium backup only does apps.
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Oh, RLY?
Official Titanium Backup site says otherwise.
http://www.matrixrewriter.com/android/
Features of the Free version:
No time limit
Very fast app listing (~1 second for 300 apps)
Sort apps by name / last backup / backup frequency
Filter apps by name / type / status / Apps Organizer labels (also affects Batch operations)
Backup/restore regular apps + their settings
Backup/restore protected apps + their settings
Backup/restore system settings (incl. Wi-Fi AP list)
Restores the Market links when restoring apps
Zero-click background batch backup
Interactive batch restore
Many batch scenarios (eg: if more than N days since last backup, etc)
Zero-click app un-installer
Zero-click system app un-installer
Desktop widgets
Additional features of the Donate version:
Branding to your name
Multiple backups per app (history length can be chosen)
Zero-click background batch restore
Batch verification of all backups
Ultra fast HyperShell (much faster for almost everything)
Market Doctor can remake any broken Market links (only for apps that were backed up with the link in place)
App freezer can disable an app (and make it invisible) without un-installing it
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I just moved from one ROM to another smoothly with Titanium. I recommend it.
How to Backup you Desire before rooting it ?
Titanium requires Rooted phone ......
other Appli ?
You can try Sprite Backup but no application will work that well without root, sorry.
Is anybody test Sprite Backup?
I think MyBackup Pro and Titanium are similar when you have the system app active.
Hi
barring rooting the device and doing a nand backup/restore, I have used Sprite Backup in the past on my diamond (XDAndroid) successfully and it u could also use the application backup/restore with Astro (from the marketplace) and for txt msgs use sms backup -
http://github.com/jberkel/android-sms/tree/restore_backups - Backup/restore to gmail account
I have downloaded titanium and understand how to back up apps but I am lost on how to pull them back and restore them once I have done and wipe and flashed a rom. Anyone have some advice on how to do this? I have searched the web and cant seem to find a place that gives a good explanation
When you backup an app or app+data with Titanium Backup it is saved to your SD Card. When you wipe and flash a new rom, if the rom does not have Titanium Backup (most don't have it cooked in) then you need to download it from the market. It will see the backups you have and from the main app screen you will click on Backup/Restore. Then click on the app that you wish to restore and it will bring a pop-up that gives you buttons with actions to choose from. Click Restore and it will ask if you want to restore the App only or app+data. If you choose App+Data, it should restore to the state that it was in when you made the backup, meaning that it should retain your settings.
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When you backup an app or app+data with Titanium Backup it is saved to your SD Card. When you wipe and flash a new rom, if the rom does not have Titanium Backup (most don't have it cooked in) then you need to download it from the market. It will see the backups you have and from the main app screen you will click on Backup/Restore. Then click on the app that you wish to restore and it will bring a pop-up that gives you buttons with actions to choose from. Click Restore and it will ask if you want to restore the App only or app+data. If you choose App+Data, it should restore to the state that it was in when you made the backup, meaning that it should retain your settings.
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So outside of doing a batch backup every now and then to keep everything up today I dont have to do anything else but just reload titanium on the new rom
Not that I know of.
Hello
I have a S2 backup rom (created by CWM) with some important info on it.
I have since sold the Galaxy S2 phone and moved onto a Galaxy Note GT-N7000
I have used 'nandroid browser' for example to search for the raw files within the rom - but couldn't find them due to the search method being too difficult.
So I thought is it possible to load up the S2 rom on the Galaxy Note and take what I need from it ?
How do I go about doing it ?
I have rooted the Note and have CWM installed ready to go.
Any help would be grateful.
Many thanks for reading and any tips.
I really really would not recommend it, Although they are similar, there could be disastrous consequences..... Is it really worth it for a few apps ?
Why didnt you just make a Titanium backup before switching phones?
You can browse the nandroid files on your PC, use winrar or 7zip, Find the info you want, extract it and copy it over to the Note.
You can manually restore data from old cwm backup. Extract it with winrar and copy what you need.
I had lost my contacts so I extracted backup and copied related files.
But do not restore the back up from recovery.
I'm not bothered about the apps, its text messages and pictures!
As for masking a backup before switching phones, that's why I used CWM !
One backup app is the same as any other.
As for using nandroid and winrar, already done that - as already said no good.
It's easier to install S2 rom, boot up, connect to kies and export text messages to desktop then sync on the note later.
As for retriveng pictures, again go into usb mode, search internal sd card and extract - job done!
As for installing rom, too late already done it!
you installed s2 rom on note succesfully?
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It seemed to load ok using cwm - choosing the 'restore a backup' option.
When the phone rebooted, the Note N7000 boot screen appeared with the yellow triangle.
A few distorted video lines appeared, blank screen but could hear the start up theme, but no picture and no access to the operating system.
Worth a try though!
I may just buy another used S2 just to get what I want from the image and sell on again.
yeah its very dangerous not even worth a try, but thats my opinion. people have destroyed phones by flashin recovrring stuff not meant for their phone lol
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nandroids are not transferable, So if you have s SGS2 you will not be able to restore that nandroid on a SGS3 / Galaxy Note ect ect. Thats why you should have Titanium backups, You can restore a TB backup across a million devices.
you should use titanium backup to explore your nandroid backup of s2 for apps.. and if you want the data of s2 then do a advanced restore of data onto your note may be that will work
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You can try AppExtractor: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...iwiY29tLmhhbmR5YW5keS5hcHBleHRyYWN0b3JrZXkiXQ..
It should be able to restore your text messages from the nandroid backup.
i lol'd, it's like you have been waving $500 in bills above a fire...
As i read you want to retrieve your personal data, maybe ask a friend with an S2 to borrow it for a day, root his S2 and make a backup from his setup with CWM and then restore yours on it. After your done flash back his backup and your done
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It seemed to load ok using cwm - choosing the 'restore a backup' option.
When the phone rebooted, the Note N7000 boot screen appeared with the yellow triangle.
A few distorted video lines appeared, blank screen but could hear the start up theme, but no picture and no access to the operating system.
Worth a try though!
I may just buy another used S2 just to get what I want from the image and sell on again.
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WTF. For info you have on your phone that you want to buy a seconde s2? You work for the CIA our you are some spy for the Russians?
androiadicted said:
WTF. For info you have on your phone that you want to buy a seconde s2? You work for the CIA our you are some spy for the Russians?
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are you on paranoid rom? ok just kidding no pun intended
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One backup app is the same as any other.
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Wrong. It is not. Nandroid is VERY device-specific.
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nandroids are not transferable, So if you have s SGS2 you will not be able to restore that nandroid on a SGS3 / Galaxy Note ect ect. Thats why you should have Titanium backups, You can restore a TB backup across a million devices.
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Also, some useful data is part of system apps that don't reliably restore, so should be backed up in a more portable format.
Nandroids - Snapshot of currently running system state
TiBu - Backup of installed apps and data used by those apps. Usually not good for system apps
Call Logs Backup and Restore - Backs up call logs to a portable (and human-readable) XML-based format
SMS Backup and Restore - Same as the previous app, but with an obvious difference.
Well here's what I do...
Go through my individual apps and if there's a "backup" setting I create those (including SMS backup).
Run titanium backup of all apps.
Take screen shots of my home screens (to remember icon/ widget placement).
Any other ideas to help ease the migration?
You can get a custom launcher and save all your settings and placements...I use nova launcher
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Only feel calm knowing that is a game, Like a puzzle...
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I use Titanium, and... that would be it.
Titanium back up.
That's all as well
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You can get a custom launcher and save all your settings and placements...I use nova launcher
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I use nova as well. Still has the stock feel with all the customizations and the backup and restore feature is very nice, especially if you're a flashaholic.
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Titanium to backup all my apps
SMS backup & restore for my sms
Nova launcher to backup home setup+ widgets
titanium backup for apps
mybackup pro (you'll need to crack it if you want to do restores between CM and MIUI) - because it does MMS unlikes SMS restore & backup.
and a recovery backup ..
I use My Backup Pro to backup app+data, homescreen with shortcuts/widgets, settings, call logs, SMS, contacts (Though I prefer to sync with google contacts),
Can't believe nobody listed nandroid 1st. My apps are backed up by schedule, don't need to do that. 1st I back up SMS, then use a wipe-all script in recovery to speed things up. After flashing on reboot, I have a TB .apk on the SD ready so I can pop that on quick without hitting the play store. I created a label of all the apps I want to restore so I don't waste time choosing apps one by one, and then BAM...! One button restore. Restore SMS, reboot, profit!
Since I change ROMs often as I change shirts , all I do is nandroid if it's a real good ROM; other than that I start from scratch and install apps as I need them.
if i press advanced restore and restore /data. its same as TPB ? he restore on data or apk + data ? thanks
Ok, wait woah. I feel stupid. Now, I've been flashing roms since back when Oxygen GB was all the rage, but I never realized I could use Titanium Backup&Restore, to backup and restore all of my apps! Derp. So how do I go about restoring them?
I use this method from the AOKP FAQ:
5. Best way to restore apps with Titanium Back up?
Open TiBu.
Menu/ Preferences/ App processing mode/ AUTO Direct
Create backup (Menu/ Batch/ backup/ Click the gray Run button: Backup all user apps) Do not backup or restore system data
Choose Pause active apps/ Run the batch operation
Back/ Menu/ More/ Create "update.zip."
Under "Titanium backup will be install as: "choose “System application”
Move update.zip to root of the sdcard
Flash the ROM, GApps and BEFORE rebooting,mount /system
Choose install zip, and select the zip you created
Reboot
Skip the initial device setup screen Tap top-left, top-right, bottom-right, and bottom-left corners in that order
Launch TiBu and do Menu/ Batch/ Restore all user apps plus data
Reboot
Settings/ Accounts and Sync/ Add your Google account
More info: Titanium Backup WikI
Using this method I usually just restore essential apps and other apps only when I'm sure I'm going to be staying on the new ROM for awhile.
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google backup and restore is fair enough lol
Titanium Backup and SMS Backup + .
And just for save backup all my new photos/videos/wallpapers to PC. That should be enough.
Came across Go Backup and it can backup everything like SMS , MMS , contacts, call logs, stock launcher settings and Apps with data as well.
Importantly, you can restore all at once without clicking on install button for every app
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I still do not understand why people backup and restore SMS. Do you people not delete them ever either?
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I still do not understand why people backup and restore SMS. Do you people not delete them ever either?
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Nor really. Since the phone as memory enough to save all SMS. Beside that sometimes for me already helped to find some SMS with the date that someone told me something and with that I just search for it and turn my point right.
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Nor really. Since the phone as memory enough to save all SMS. Beside that sometimes for me already helped to find some SMS with the date that someone told me something and with that I just search for it and turn my point right.
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+1
I was hoping to learn the differences between certain backup methods. The most common i saw is via recovery (in my case twrp), via titanium backup and another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
First, in terms of "backup coverage" how do they compare to one another? Secondly, which among the three would most put ur phone back the way it was before u wipe or factory reset it
I hope you could input your opinions on this and suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
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A backup through recovery is a called a nandroid. This backs up everything on your phone including your ROM, kernel, apps, settings, etc. This will allow you to restore back to the previous state of your phone after doing a full wipe.
Titanium backup only backs up your apps and app data. This is useful when you want to switch ROMs and restore your apps in the new ROM.
Usually when switching ROMs I first use titanium backup, then I create a nandroid backup, and finally I flash the ROM. If I like the ROM I use titanium to restore the apps that I previously backed up, and if I don't like the ROM I restore my nandroid
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Doing a backup with twrp, cwm or thru adb (nandroid backups) are basically image files of your phone at any given moment in time. If you restore one of these backups your restoring your phone to exactly how it was at that moment in time. Titanium backup and Helium backup just backup cached data at that particular moment in time. Using these apps will only restore the data you specified when you did the backup and nothing else. Say you borked an install of a ROM, Titanium backup would be of no use in getting your phone working again as it only has data and not a system image. You would need the images backed up by twrp to get the phone working again then you could use the titanium backups to restore any newer data saved if say you used an old twrp backup.
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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With the pro version u can run a batch backup of all apps.
To do this open the app, press the menu button in the top tight corner, and select Batch.
Then choose Backup all user apps. From there you can select/deselect apps. When you are done choosing the apps that you would like to backup, click on the green check mark in the top right corner to start the backup.
vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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I stopped using Titanium and switched to Helium a while back and can't really remember how Ti works exactly. I do know you should never restore system apps data just user apps data so I don't even bother backing up systems apps. I think with Ti I would just do an initial backup of all user data and apps and then periodically do a backup of newer user data and apps, or something to that effect in the menu. I do like Helium better as its interface is better, never could figure out how to backup or restore sms, call logs and the dictionary using Ti. Helium is much more straight forward and simpler (not as many options) and it does backups on a set schedule to my box account. I'm sure you can do all that with Ti too it was just not a very clean app.
thanks again for the replies..
@ chromium96
i think it is the same as clicking the box with check icon beside the menu, it brings me to the page the same as where you are leading me to but in just one click. Though im not so sure if it is really the same one.
I did a backup now but made a user app + system data.
kzoodroid mentioned not to backup system. Should I really not backup the system? Im quite confused with the terminologies of TI coz it says backup "user apps". Does this only refer to the apps and not the settings or data in my phone? does the backup "system data" refer to the settings and other data on my phone? if I choose only backup "user apps", would this only backup the apps and nothing else?
@ kzoodroid
could you explain further why I should never backup systems apps?
Lastly, is Helium really better than TI? or it depends on user preference?
Thanks again!
there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
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there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
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Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
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Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
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right man,
only back-up user apps and data, if you like you can also back-up call log and messages, I usually do this, so when I flash a new rom I usually restore apps +apps data, messages and call log via Tb
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another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
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I found the ADB backup doesn't work as well as the other methods. I found some apps didn't seem to get backed up, and at least one didn't work after restoring (though this could be because I used Titanium Backup to restore the app from the ADB backup file).