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To avoid confusion, all technical explanations have been moved to google-code:
http://code.google.com/p/cupcake-frosting/wiki/Ext2buntu_Technical
Resizing images and explanations of the various scripts that are used can be found there.
Screenshots:
https://picasaweb.google.com/110545...authkey=Gv1sRgCLDd48n2oMWzpAE&feat=directlink
Interested in trading in Ubuntu for BackTrack? I recommend looking here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1146255

References:
Personal insanity and the inability to accept whats already available
http://code.google.com/p/android-cruft/wiki/LucidWithAndroid
http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-android/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/15702-ubuntu-on-your-g2-anyone/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987740
http://androidclone.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=23
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That is bad ass... But my head just exploded.
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Oh man! Can't wait to get home to try this!
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I left out installing the android sdk because that has to be done in ubuntu and has no special instructions. If i could host a 4gb file somewhere, i back up my image (since i have mistakenly cleared the partition trying to delete the symlink) and that would save two whole posts.
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Which Android SDK version should I install on Ubuntu? Linux version?

Wow... I have no idea what language the first two posts were in but I feel like I really want to look into this. Haha. You effectively blew my mind. I just can't get enough of this device and forum. The more I learn, the more excited I get. This one is a bit over my head though.

chocoyo00 said:
Which Android SDK version should I install on Ubuntu? Linux version?
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Yes, i would sugget doing that from inside ubuntu, or you could cheat like i did and download the file then move it into the data/ubuntu folder using root explorer.
bking_soda said:
Wow... I have no idea what language the first two posts were in but I feel like I really want to look into this. Haha. You effectively blew my mind. I just can't get enough of this device and forum. The more I learn, the more excited I get. This one is a bit over my head though.
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I will go back and add some screen shots and try to simplify a bit. I was writing that guide off the top of my head to get it done before anyone tried to use it. I have accidentally wiped the partition twice before realizing i needed to backup the ext2 so it has become a fairly quick process.
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Any particular reason you opted to make it an ext2 partition instead of 3 or 4? Was it personal choice or did you have issues with ext3/ext4?

I will go back and add some screen shots and try to simplify a bit. I was writing that guide off the top of my head to get it done before anyone tried to use it. I have accidentally wiped the partition twice before realizing i needed to backup the ext2 so it has become a fairly quick process.
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That would be helpful. I couldn't move my main partition to add a new one for ubuntu, it just got stuck idk why. So I had to create two partitions but that didn't work.

thanks for the tutorial, been looking for a way to get ubuntu on my thunderbolt, but when i type bootubuntu from my phone's terminal i get this output:
mount: Devices or resource busy
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
chroot: not found
failed
failed
failed
any help?

tyarbro13 said:
thanks for the tutorial, been looking for a way to get ubuntu on my thunderbolt, but when i type bootubuntu from my phone's terminal i get this output:
mount: Devices or resource busy
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
mount: No such file or directory
net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
chroot: not found
failed
failed
failed
any help?
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You are using the loop device method. I debugged that for 3 hours before deciding this method was MUCH easier. There were too many contradictions in that method. Everyone said failed meant your kernel doesnt support loop but if you "ls -d /dev/loop*" it shows up. Not to mention ive seen the loop support enabled option selected in the kernel i was on. Its being created, but not mounted to the image. I may look into it one day, but i dont see a point. The ext is MUCH faster than a virtual drive image and doesnt require any kernel modification, so it is more universal.
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Don't hurt me, but what would the benefit be of having ubuntu on your phone? I mean, I do think it's pretty kickass that you figured out how to do it, and I'm all about figuring out new things to do to our phones, but is this something that could potentially be useful? And if so, how?
- Linux Noob

TheStick13 said:
Don't hurt me, but what would the benefit be of having ubuntu on your phone? I mean, I do think it's pretty kickass that you figured out how to do it, and I'm all about figuring out new things to do to our phones, but is this something that could potentially be useful? And if so, how?
- Linux Noob
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From a user standpoint its more or less just bragging rights. I havent fogured out how to cheat the system and get it to think it had an adb connection back to the phone yet.
From a developer standpoint it is a good emergency environment. My computer (and server) have been down for three days which otherwise would have put me at a stand-still. Ive been doing all my boot.img mods right on the phone.
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All links are static, meaning they always download the newest version of the files. I added a time stamp to the post to show the latest revision. This update was to add backubuntu, instructions for installing it, and an updated ubuntu.sh that includes it.
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Does it recognize a data connection?

twistedumbrella said:
From a user standpoint its more or less just bragging rights. I havent fogured out how to cheat the system and get it to think it had an adb connection back to the phone yet.
From a developer standpoint it is a good emergency environment. My computer (and server) have been down for three days which otherwise would have put me at a stand-still. Ive been doing all my boot.img mods right on the phone.
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soo this is how to get girls? Hey baby look i got Ubuntu on my phone.... wana bang? lol

TheStick13 said:
Don't hurt me, but what would the benefit be of having ubuntu on your phone? I mean, I do think it's pretty kickass that you figured out how to do it, and I'm all about figuring out new things to do to our phones, but is this something that could potentially be useful? And if so, how?
- Linux Noob
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It's more something useful to do with your phone after you get a new one. I plan on turning mine into a mini mobile server with debian on it. Stick ssh/ftp, and a webserver on it and you have a nice little device to carry around for presenting software/web projects to clients with instead of having to carry your laptop (and also more impressive if you're trying to persuade a new client). Also, you offload crap you would have on your laptop if you're on the go and need to code something and/or dont have to deal with the latency of a remote server on a less than great internet connection

Gimpeh said:
Does it recognize a data connection?
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Recognizes data, wifi, touchscreen, working on bluetooth and mounting the sdcard inside it. It is an easy command, but i am trying to prevent ubuntu from having too much control of the sd. I am also trying to find the fastest mount method (currently using the one in imoseyons tweak) to mount everything.
yareally said:
It's more something useful to do with your phone after you get a new one. I plan on turning mine into a mini mobile server with debian on it. Stick ssh/ftp, and a webserver on it and you have a nice little device to carry around for presenting software/web projects to clients with instead of having to carry your laptop (and also more impressive if you're trying to persuade a new client). Also, you offload crap you would have on your laptop if you're on the go and need to code something and/or dont have to deal with the latency of a remote server on a less than great internet connection
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There is also a dyndns app for the phone that is good for doing vnc viewing and access on the computer using a "friendly" url. That in combination with an ubuntu webserver and you could host a site on it, not that ive tried it
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Linux?

Is ubuntu possible on our u8800?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN4c61ETCWg maybe, try it

Without having seen the youtube vid that d3xtr0 linked, I'll post this link:
http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/

sebgus said:
Without having seen the youtube vid that d3xtr0 linked, I'll post this link:
http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
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lit's the same source

It will probably work if this device supports "loop devices" whatever that is? anyone know or tried it succsessfully?

skifyr123 said:
It will probably work if this device supports "loop devices" whatever that is? anyone know or tried it succsessfully?
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I had no time to try it, maybe later in the week.

skifyr123 said:
It will probably work if this device supports "loop devices" whatever that is? anyone know or tried it succsessfully?
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It supports loop device. I just tried to mount a loop device with a loop image and it worked.
EDIT: With flibblesan's r5 kernel but it should be supported by stock kernel anyway

You are aware that ubuntu has no proper support for touchscreens; even if it runs you won't gain anything by doing that. When I installed a linux a few months ago on another device it worked, then I was fascinated about one minute and then I decided that there is no use for it an deleted it eventually.
I just do not understand why it is so important to get a desktop-os running on a smartphone. Battery drains fast, no support for the radio etc.

XphX said:
You are aware that ubuntu has no proper support for touchscreens; even if it runs you won't gain anything by doing that. When I installed a linux a few months ago on another device it worked, then I was fascinated about one minute and then I decided that there is no use for it an deleted it eventually.
I just do not understand why it is so important to get a desktop-os running on a smartphone. Battery drains fast, no support for the radio etc.
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Its not important, but funny and cool if it works (on this device). How did you do it?

Until recently I still had my old samsung-omnia-winmo6.5-phone. There was an app for linux available; you just had to install an imagefile to the sd-card. The fun did last for a minute and then I realized I cannot do anything with this small screen and that it was pretty much useless.
I think that a lot of people here will just read the topic and think "omg this is amazing, now I can have my desktop-os on the phone, great" and later they realize how much time they just wasted.
If it really is fun for you guys, I won't try and stop you

How about using linux programs? i think that it may be quite useful sometimes... Put honestly... it is just for funright now... but it may be helpful if we could dual boot.... maybe in the future

I got this working, it isn't that slow as you could imagine, firefox takes around 30 sec to start and load the front page. That said, the keyboard works but is way off and impossible to use (I push "d" and "f" shows up and so on).
if anyone understand this the keyboard will be fixed:
In VNC’s xstartup file: $HOME/.vnc/xstartup
You have to add the line export XKL_XMODMAP_DISABLE=1 before
/etc/X11/Xsession or gnome-session (in case you use GNOME)
Screenshot actually taken with an ubuntu tool, I have set the resolution to 1200*800 in the virtual enviriment.
Here is a video with Huawei Ideos X5 running Ubuntu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SaoneDtNqA&feature=BFp&list=WL01C152CD7D31A7C8&index=1

Will try this later tonight and let you guys know if it works. Just have to work first >.<

The significance of linux running is to have a backup operating system to use on the phone if the Oracle / Google dispute over Java begins to really disrupt the market.
Think also freedombox.org, your own personal, secure and anonymous cloud system as a refuge if a dictatorship emerges or particularly nasty rise of corporatism occurs.
At heart, our U8800's can easily be linux box server with up to 32Gb of onboard storage with wi-fi AND gsm network connections. Being battery operated, if the thought police decend upon your community, you could take it to another place, unknown to the nasty guys, and re-establish mesh network connection to get reports of civil rights abuses out to the rest of the world.
Reason enough to have the capability to run Ubuntu Server edition (or any other Linux Server flavour)?
If you're interested to see what's already possible, even within Android (Linux will deliver more power), install "File Expert" from the market to get your very own web file server, right there in your phone.

-- wrong post just ignore --

XphX said:
Until recently I still had my old samsung-omnia-winmo6.5-phone. There was an app for linux available; you just had to install an imagefile to the sd-card. The fun did last for a minute and then I realized I cannot do anything with this small screen and that it was pretty much useless.
I think that a lot of people here will just read the topic and think "omg this is amazing, now I can have my desktop-os on the phone, great" and later they realize how much time they just wasted.
If it really is fun for you guys, I won't try and stop you
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You didn't Found a better ubuntu boot-file, x5 faster, keyboard works, WIFI, pre-installed with many programs ( Open Office for work.. etc) easy to use with touch screen. here is how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUG9aC_tH5s
And the files/instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=962023

Webtop: Working Ubuntu programs plus small guide

Let me start off by saying I am not a developer. And Im not too familiar with Linux either. Just goes to show that this isnt too difficult
To get ubuntu on the Atrix please go here first:
[MOD] Full Linux (Debian) inside WebTop! v0.2.6 [2011/07/07] [14.15 GMT+2:00] - xda-developers
Follow the steps. Must have CMW installed, rooted etc.
I was unsuccessful with webtop2sd. You might have good results with it, but for me it didnt.
Once you flash this cmw file, reboot you phone and enter into webtop (if you need the HDMI hack, you will find that on XDA). You will now see 3 new icons. Leafpad, Lxterminal, and a penguin. Click on the penguin, and you it will say found image. Click ok.
If your unfamiluar with linux, this will look french to you. Once it launches (the first time after reboot will take some time, be patient). Hit enter, enter again and scroll down to Shells, then hit enter on Bash. Now this is where the fun begins.
Enter synaptic. If that doesnt work you might need to install it. apt-get install synaptic. After thats opened search for gnome-panel, right click and select "mark for installation". Hit apply and go for a coffee. This will take a long time, and make sure your on wifi. This is a huge download.
Here is a list of working applications so far :
Epiphany web browser
Epiphany IM
Evolution Mail
Iceweasle
AbiWord
GNU image manipulation
All of the games
Im working on getting usb-to-ethernet dongle working.I can see it, just cant get access to it.
Almost all of the pre-installed applications with gnome work. EXCEPT sound. This is driving me nuts. I am unable to find a sound driver (gstreamer) that works. If anyone here figures it out let me know. And if anyone out there have programs that work let me know. I can always add it to the list. Im very green to Linux, and just playing around at this point. Im no developer, and most of your questions can be answered on XDA forums.

I have the same setup, and you can add openoffice.org and geany packages to the "functional" list. I use openoffice's writer every day and have found no missing functions. Geany is working, but does not build and compile, so it's basically a color-coded text editor (still useful for note-taking my language classes). I did NOT use synaptic to get these. I simply used the bash script (in the same manner you described for your synaptic install) to apt-get install openoffice.org and geany respectively. Nice thread,
-omni

Where you able to get sound working??

g2tegg said:
Where you able to get sound working??
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My sound through the Webtop is functional, yes. I'm not sure if you were talking about gnome-specific apps (I wouldn't know, because I'm not using gnome panel), but anything through mobile view or iceweasel (not including flash) plays stereo through the Webtop. I didn't do anything special to get it working, it always just has. I hope you figure out your problem.
-omni

With epiphany did you encounter a problem where it uses xulrunner-1.9.2 instead of xulrunner-1.9 and fails to start the gecko engine? The epiphany version that is available through synaptic after fixing apt-get dependencies and sources uses xul1.9 once and works right then uses xul1.9.2 every time after that and fails. Epiphany lists both xul versions as deps so i, unsuccessfully, tried to lock xul1.9 and install a fake xul1.9.2. Any help would be awesome.

I did manage to make Webtop2SD work after I created a 4 GB partition on my ExtSD through Webtop2sd partitioning tool.
Here's what I got working (installed through Synaptic):
XFCE4 (full suite)
OpenOffice
GIMP
EPDFViewer
Fillezilla FTP client
VLC Media Player (marginal results)
Ristretto Image viewer
ABE's Amazing Adventure (game with full working sound)
I was hoping to have some sort of ScummVM, MAME and SNES emulator to run, but unfortunately they don't even after a successfull install.
Cheers!
Rayan
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@ g2tegg
I know it's a bit late for commenting lol. And probably my post may be off-topic. But was your issue the <no sound coming from HDTV via HDMI> one?
I also had this issue in webtop going on for like 3 months (like flashing and reflashing webtop to no end), until I stumbled upon this Motorola forum:
h**p://supportforums.motorola.com/message/330591#330591
(had to mod link because I didn't reach the minimum amounts of posts to allow links -_-)
Basically, if you switch display resolution to anything other than 1280x720, sound will not redirect to HDTV. And as for me, after switching to 1280x720, I had to reboot my Atrix in order to finally have sound . No need to find for drivers.

My sound would work within the Webtop apps from Motorola. But if I wanted to use a Linux MP3 player, watch a video etc there would be no sound. Kept getting a gstreamer error.

Hi g2tegg,
I have Atrix with iBlur ROM. I installed the WebTopMOD zip file using CWM and have the folder with linux image in sdcard-ext. But when I reboot the phone and plg it in Atrix Lapdock I don't see the icons like: penguin etc.
Could you please help.

Got it working !!

katlimaal said:
Hi g2tegg,
I have Atrix with iBlur ROM. I installed the WebTopMOD zip file using CWM and have the folder with linux image in sdcard-ext. But when I reboot the phone and plg it in Atrix Lapdock I don't see the icons like: penguin etc.
Could you please help.
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Try to reflash the webtop and then the mod again. There is a thread in the developers area I believe called webtop mod v1 or something like that. When I get the chance I will try to dig it up. Driving in a snowstorm at the moment slightly hinders my searchability haha. Good ol Ontario I tell ya

quick question: are these persistent? can I make a desktop icon for these or do I have to apt-get them everytime?
seems counter intuitive to not be able to "hard" install the applications

V DidDy 210 said:
quick question: are these persistent? can I make a desktop icon for these or do I have to apt-get them everytime?
seems counter intuitive to not be able to "hard" install the applications
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You dont have to apt-get everytime. The installed applications are on either the phones hard drive or the SD card. Only thing you will have to do is start the gnome panel every session, which is easy enough.

g2tegg said:
You dont have to apt-get everytime. The installed applications are on either the phones hard drive or the SD card. Only thing you will have to do is start the gnome panel every session, which is easy enough.
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Yeah after tinkering with them for enough time I figured that out!
only question is how do I figure out where they are located on my phone? I can't find a DEBIAN folder anywhere on my device (sd or sd-ext) my webtopmod folder is on my internal storage btw
thanks for the response!

If you use webtopmod's debian chroot (the white shell) they'll be in the linuxdisk file, as it's actualy a filesystem in itself. You won't be able to 'directly' access them. I recommend switching to webtop2SD. I didnt' want to, but everything is native that way and most things run better anyways, I installed xfce4 and got rid of that stupid awn dock at the bottom and put in a little bar. Now it feels like linux!
My apps so far:
OpenOffice 3
XChat
rdesktop (doesn't work, keymap doesn't work)
gimp (not used yet)
Any other useful ones people know of? I don't need an email client... the phone's gmail app is sufficient enough, and if I need more support I'll just use gmail. Kind of wish I could get an updated firefox, or a tun/tap module so i could use hamachi.

Mgamerz said:
If you use webtopmod's debian chroot (the white shell) they'll be in the linuxdisk file, as it's actualy a filesystem in itself. You won't be able to 'directly' access them. I recommend switching to webtop2SD. I didnt' want to, but everything is native that way and most things run better anyways, I installed xfce4 and got rid of that stupid awn dock at the bottom and put in a little bar. Now it feels like linux!
My apps so far:
OpenOffice 3
XChat
rdesktop (doesn't work, keymap doesn't work)
gimp (not used yet)
Any other useful ones people know of? I don't need an email client... the phone's gmail app is sufficient enough, and if I need more support I'll just use gmail. Kind of wish I could get an updated firefox, or a tun/tap module so i could use hamachi.
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I installed chromium, and it's running smoother than firefox ever did. Haven't really had a reason to install anything else, but i think i'm gonna get fxce4 because the current dock at the bottom annoys me
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^yeah after using it exclusively for the past day or so it's quite capable but I can also see the limitations of debian through chroot. I'd ideally like to get rid of the webtop all together and just have kde or gnome (i'm not picky, xcfe4 would work for me too)
but I'm assuming if I do webtop2sd I can have ubuntu with gnome installed no problem?
I went through the process of putting all of my gnuSTEP icons on the webtop and it's very much like my current gnuSTEP machine (supremely capable btw when using a debian core) I haven't run into any real problems using the chroot method, save for not being able to put shortcuts on the AWN bar and the occasional, but when I get my lapdock in the mail and start exclusively using this when I'm out and about I'll look into doing webtop2sd. I need to get a bigger sd card too, I have a 16 but I'd rather have a 32 external only for webtop and the 10 or so internal for android I don't listen to music on my android (I own a zune) so 10 should be plenty to just have apps and android
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Alcapone263 said:
I installed chromium, and it's running smoother than firefox ever did. Haven't really had a reason to install anything else, but i think i'm gonna get fxce4 because the current dock at the bottom annoys me
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Did you use the jaunty hack to get chromium working?
I successfully installed chromium but every page loads for a second and then crashes. I didn't really look into the chromium hack (I don't think I use jaunty for anything and synaptic/apt-get can get all the repositories I need) but it seemed intensive especially to get flash.
I've found that while firefox has FANTASTIC flash support (like, really good and speedy, no chops) I just end up using konqueror for regular internet tasks. I can't seem to get it to install flash (I don't know how to install .deb packages) but it's speedy for other things and makes an excellent file manager

If you could get chromium without 2.3.5 i'd get it... but 2.3.5 offers what appear to be no benefits at all, correct?
Just kinda scared to have to rebuild from a bricked phone.
Trolling from my ATRIX 4G's XDA premium app, still on the gold medal winner of worst customer satisfaction for the second year in a row! Congrats!

I upgraded to 2.3.5 it has the new firefox, it runs fine from what I've seen

I'm trying to install synaptic by "apt-get install synaptic", but it shows several "Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/......" messages.
How can I fix this?

[Q] Anything better than BotBrew Basil for compiling Linux apps?

I just botched my install of BotBrew by switching from sid to Wheezy. Sid appears to be all sorts of buggy and is even warned to be so on Debian's site. I even managed to mess up my tablet completely by trying to move the old directory so I could start fresh but keep the old stuff for reference as I reinstalled/recompiled everything.
Now that I'm on a fresh slate seeing as BotBrew is three years now without update is there anything better out there to set up a Linux environment that I can compile things in and perhaps turn into a nice fully featured Linux install to share with people?
I was halfway through the dependencies for Cinnamon (my favorite WM) before I somehow killed Python beyond repair so forgive me for my rants. Getting that far (about 12 solid hours work) and having to start over is... taxing on the nerves.
Thanks in advance for your advice.

mascondante said:
I just botched my install of BotBrew by switching from sid to Wheezy. Sid appears to be all sorts of buggy and is even warned to be so on Debian's site. I even managed to mess up my tablet completely by trying to move the old directory so I could start fresh but keep the old stuff for reference as I reinstalled/recompiled everything.
Now that I'm on a fresh slate seeing as BotBrew is three years now without update is there anything better out there to set up a Linux environment that I can compile things in and perhaps turn into a nice fully featured Linux install to share with people?
I was halfway through the dependencies for Cinnamon (my favorite WM) before I somehow killed Python beyond repair so forgive me for my rants. Getting that far (about 12 solid hours work) and having to start over is... taxing on the nerves.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
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If you're looking for an easy way to run a full linux environment on Android(through chroot) I would recommend trying Linux on Android (found at http://linuxonandroid.org/). Download from Play store .
It has many linux distributions to choose from and has worked perfectly for me. I tend to start ssh server on the linux chroot and connect to it locally with VX Connectbot most of the time when I'm using it.
(How were u planning to run Cinnamon on android? Vncserver?)

I like Linux on Android. The only thing I don't like is it uses an image file instead of a directory on my device. Makes moving stuff back and forth kind of a pain. I use http://sourceforge.net/projects/libsdl-android/files/apk/XServer-XSDL/ and set my display location to XServer-XSDL in the chroot and any app I launch opens in XServer.

I'm thinking of taking a crack at making my own Ubuntu bootstrap as I prefer it to Debian. Not sure if the prebuilt would work or if I could set up an image without using QEMU.

After another all-nighter I must say I have huge respect for anyone who builds Linux from scratch. I was lucky enough to have a repo that had some of the packages I needed but at least 50% of the dependencies I needed had to be compiled. And naturally they had dependencies that had to be compiled and so on. I don't know how many layers deep I had to go. I lost count.

mascondante said:
I like Linux on Android. The only thing I don't like is it uses an image file instead of a directory on my device. Makes moving stuff back and forth kind of a pain. I use http://sourceforge.net/projects/libsdl-android/files/apk/XServer-XSDL/ and set my display location to XServer-XSDL in the chroot and any app I launch opens in XServer.
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You could always mount the iso image to a directory and access all the files that way. Or just access /sdcard or /external_sd from within linux chroot.
I tried XServer-XSDL but it had bad keyboard lag when typing quickly(letters appear very slowly) -- especially with an external keyboard. Do you experience that?

xIsei said:
You could always mount the iso image to a directory and access all the files that way. Or just access /sdcard or /external_sd from within linux chroot.
I tried XServer-XSDL but it had bad keyboard lag when typing quickly(letters appear very slowly) -- especially with an external keyboard. Do you experience that?
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Thank you for the advice. If I start to go insane from my efforts I'll give that a whirl.
I believe it lagged but as I didn't have a WM open just a simple app called SheepShaver it wasn't as noticeable. To be perfectly honest I'm not sure that I remember.
For anyone who cares I finally built Cinnamon. It won't launch. Clutter is complaining about the screen. Something to do with libEGL getting pissed because of the setup I'm using. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2014-June/msg03415.html shows a commit that should fix that. I'm trying to compile it but like the rest of my experiences it's not as simple as compile and done. More like knock out a tree of dependencies, sacrifice your first born, pray and cross your fingers hoping something else isn't going to go wrong. Kind of disappointing. Cinnamon is such a beautifully simplistic yet still very pleasant looking WM.
For now I'll keep beating my head against a wall until I pass out or break it down. Will share once I'm done. I plan on switching it from Debian to Linux Mint if possible. A fully working Linux Mint seems like an adventurous goal to shoot for. But for now it's daylight and this child of the darkness needs some sleep. I'd love it if some senior developers subbed to this and shared their ideas and collaborated with me. I've only got one friend to call on for help and he's a FreeBSD guy so his help only goes so far. Thanks.

Linux On Dex - First Impressions

So, I am at work and I showed off Linux on Dex to some other Developers and Engineers here.
Impressed they were, but it's time to really dig in.
Here is what I love about it on first look:
Great to have a fleshed Linux experience on my phone
Great dev tools come with the image (IntelliJ and also Visual Studio Code and more)
Has plenty of apps to get you started and it's pretty thoughtful
Looks great at 1920x1080 as well as 2560x1440 resolutions on a monitor
Switching between Dex and Ubuntu is pretty snappy
Things I didn't like:
Just a LITTLE bit laggy sometimes
Need to either use ARM compiled apps or compile them yourself
The Default 10GB partition size was too small, so I would suggest using 15GB at least, after updates/upgrades (Ubuntu OS updates that is), you'll still have about 35% free space with 15GB disk
You cannot "install" this on the SDCard, only internal memory, so keep that in mind if you have the 128GB model and tons of apps
Once installed, you cannot delete the 3GB+ zip file you downloaded, so there is that wasted space as well (ok, I have not tried REALLY hard to delete it yet, but Google Files won't delete it, nor do I know the repercussions of deleting this file too)
I'm still trying to work out how to access the files on the device (outside the Linux container), not sure if it is possible, but I have not had a lot of time with it as of now
BONUS!!
When you are not in Dex mode (normal handset mode), you can still launch Linux on Dex, but you cannot get the full desktop experience.
Click on the Terminal icon under the RUN button and you can drop into the Ubuntu Shell and still use commands (like SSH-ing to servers using your certs and stuff).
Of course, the down side, small screen. Hey, in a pinch, when I am on the road and needs to SSH into an AWS instance and run a couple commands, I won't complain!!
All in all, I think this will be great for Dev's to play with, not sure how useful it REALLY will be, but I know from a DevOps/Architect/Engineer, it's nice to have as a backup to be able to actually take care of things without having to drag out the whole laptop.
All this, with a $20 adapter.
Any other thoughts for those that have used it?

Hello friend, I have mine installed on my 128gb Sdcard.

How did you get it on your SD Card?
Thanks!

Talderon said:
How did you get it on your SD Card?
Thanks!
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Move the file from LoD folder to the SD card and reassign the file location in the Linux on Dex app, it worked for me but moved it back to internal storage to ensure best performance .

My impression? They will poorly maintain it and I suspect it will be discontinued without any real notice. Registration was broken for well over a week before signups ended. You cannot get in contact with anyone from the team. Care doesn't even know it exists.

I am yet to find a use case that improves upon remote access to an Ubuntu 18.04 VM running on a cloud or at home, but I'm not a developer.
Perhaps if you are stuck somewhere without an Internet connection and feel like coding somewhere in the mountains or in the jungle.. But then you would need a handy monitor, keyboard, mouse and a power source..?

I think I can sum this up in one simple sentence - "Because I can..."
It's like having linux on a PS3, because it could.
Haven't had a chance to use it yet but looks promising. That doesn't mean it will be supported very well, time will tell.
Hardware wise it should work very well, and there is ALWAYS a good reason to have a handy (mostly) self-contained PC with you in case you CAN'T access the net...

Would be great to get an idea of some real life use cases..
Would be very happy to see this project pick up some community developer attention, the platform is only as good as the tools developed for it.
In the absence of an official LoD forum for developers perhaps that community should be developed here.

p33l05 said:
In the absence of an official LoD forum for developers perhaps that community should be developed here.
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https://developer.samsung.com/forum/board/thread/list.do?boardName=SDK&searchSubId=0000000051

I got this installed on my 8GB Note 9 today. I didn't get registered for the beta, but download the app and the Ubuntu image and got it all up and running today. My only complaint so far is it won't run full screen on Dex. That may be because I'm running the Pie Beta. Not sure how it operates on Oreo Dex.
I'll play around with it more later. I basically just plugged into my monitor and opened it up today.

Well, here is a real-life use case that saved me a TON of time and effort.
I set up the Linux on Dex with many tools and configs I need to be able to do my work (Sr. DevOps Architect/Engineer) on my AWS servers. I had an instance that was having some issues and was notified via the monitoring platform and was able to get my phone out, run the Ubuntu Shell and SSH/Fix the issue without ever having to pull out the laptop and tether it while on the train headed home.
There ARE some use cases where this will come in handy, but I do agree that these are real "edge" cases too. No "normal" user will ever really find this helpful.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I got this installed on my 8GB Note 9 today. I didn't get registered for the beta, but download the app and the Ubuntu image and got it all up and running today. My only complaint so far is it won't run full screen on Dex. That may be because I'm running the Pie Beta. Not sure how it operates on Oreo Dex.
I'll play around with it more later. I basically just plugged into my monitor and opened it up today.
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Full screen on oreo.. Have you tried Dex max app?

planning to install LoD and curious if it can actually decompile and recompile apk's as a laptop would..?! mostly I'm interested in Themes for Samsung.. using few apk as templates to swap files, images and recompiling the apk, will it be able and will it properly sign it ?! and if so which way should I go?! do I need to install java, SDK, plugin I saw there ?!
any advice would be great.. thanx..

Can you use any Type c to HDMI or has to be an special cable?

darkriff said:
Can you use any Type c to HDMI or has to be an special cable?
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I think you need powersupply as well in the adapter for it to work.