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Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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I agree.note 2 still good gadget.off course s4 is lot of new technology but if using as daily hp,note 2 still good choice coz wat ever games or apllication still can run smoothly.battery life also much better.i m using both s4 n note 2 but for browsing i m still using note 2.
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Anyone who used to own a note 2 ? How does the s4 compare minus the new features. Were talking about speed, app switching , wifi , browser etc. i used to have a note 2 and it was an absolute beast best phone I've ever had
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i have Note 2 right now and i am gonna sell it tomorrow to get S4. i went to store this week to test S4 before purchase. S4 was faster than Note 2. you will not note it that much but i have my own kinda "steps" to compare the smartphones.
the only issue i have and i fear is the over heating issue of S4. i guess it will be gone because even my S3 used to get very hot in the beginning when i purchased it last year but later updates resolved the issue.
so im hoping S4 would also get an update for the over heating issue.
other than that, S4 has almost 80% better screen than Note 2! and im a movie buff and heavy internet user so i love the screen of S4. camera performance is also great. i will recommend u to get S4
choice is your though
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aami.aami said:
i have Note 2 right now and i am gonna sell it tomorrow to get S4. i went to store this week to test S4 before purchase. S4 was faster than Note 2. you will not note it that much but i have my own kinda "steps" to compare the smartphones.
the only issue i have and i fear is the over heating issue of S4. i guess it will be gone because even my S3 used to get very hot in the beginning when i purchased it last year but later updates resolved the issue.
so im hoping S4 would also get an update for the over heating issue.
other than that, S4 has almost 80% better screen than Note 2! and im a movie buff and heavy internet user so i love the screen of S4. camera performance is also great. i will recommend u to get S4
choice is your though
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How do you measure that "80% better screen" part exactly? For me, at least on such smaller screens, 1080p is a bit pointless. The high ppi is great though as it's pentile and I could clearly see the graininess on S3, which I can't on S4. While watching movies, I personally can't notice any difference between N2 and S4 - and N2 has more screen real estate, ergo I prefer it for watching movies than S4. And personally, I prefer rgb over pentile (personal preference though).
However where you would notice a difference is while browsing - the screen is marginally sharper than N2. Again that's my experience from using S4 briefly although I don't plan to own one.
As for speed, both phones are fast when it comes to the UI, but without doubt S4 will handle resource intensive tasks better. But Note 2 has handled anything I've thrown at it well without any issues so far anyways. Hell, even S2 handles most apps fine even now, so that shouldn't be a problem with either of these devices.
As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
.............
Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
More to come
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As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
.............
Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
More to come
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Note 2 seems faster, perhaps due to the chipset having half the pixels to push data to.
I agree that with a display this size, 1080 seems overkill if compromising performance. That said, I may just be rationalzing since Verizon might only be offering the 16gb model and I will not trade my 32gb S3 for that.
ipsuvedi said:
As far as perfornence concerned...after all note 2 is better
S4's octa cores are better only for bencmark & gimmic...whereas note is real performer...no heat issue, more ram available , heating & more battery friendly....everybody knows these are key features to be better performmer
Bigger screen
Wel costomized firmware
Better battery
No such heatin problem
More free ram
Now much cheaper than s4
Great dev support in XDA
(u can use all kind of roms, apps tweaks & mods...even many s4 features )
S pen creativity
And dont forget...Fm app
I think untill note 3 or s5, note 2 is best deal
.............
Lets see s4 features
Screen smearing
Battery draining
Heating
Jerks in TW
More bloatwares ...almost half of 16 gb
More to come
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How do you measure that "80% better screen" part exactly? For me, at least on such smaller screens, 1080p is a bit pointless. The high ppi is great though as it's pentile and I could clearly see the graininess on S3, which I can't on S4. While watching movies, I personally can't notice any difference between N2 and S4 - and N2 has more screen real estate, ergo I prefer it for watching movies than S4. And personally, I prefer rgb over pentile (personal preference though).
However where you would notice a difference is while browsing - the screen is marginally sharper than N2. Again that's my experience from using S4 briefly although I don't plan to own one.
As for speed, both phones are fast when it comes to the UI, but without doubt S4 will handle resource intensive tasks better. But Note 2 has handled anything I've thrown at it well without any issues so far anyways. Hell, even S2 handles most apps fine even now, so that shouldn't be a problem with either of these devices.
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u asked me to explain and wrote all that long comment or urs... lols
any ways... 80% better screen means i can see more pixels on note 2 screen than i could on my S3. note 2 screen is better for watching videos and thats it. anything higher than 720p was sharper but below that i can see pixels. there is also black clipping on some of the note 2 devices as reported by some of users. but s4 just does not have that. dont know how u can say s4 screen is just a tad sharper than note 2 screen i found it to be a lot sharper than note 2 screen! and just cause of the sheer size of the screen and so widely spread pixels cause of the lower resolution, the note 2 really got hot after using especially when more whites are displayed on the screen. it used to lag a lot when going from app drawer to the widget section and the lag is considerably lowered now in s4.
so over all s4 is better than note 2 in almost every way and oh the s pen, dont talk about that! cause until dont have real good use scenario for it or u have lots of free time and u have really good drawing and hand writing its useless and i really didnt use it that much after my first 10 days with note 2!
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u asked me to explain and wrote all that long comment or urs... lols
any ways... 80% better screen means i can see more pixels on note 2 screen than i could on my S3. note 2 screen is better for watching videos and thats it. anything higher than 720p was sharper but below that i can see pixels. there is also black clipping on some of the note 2 devices as reported by some of users. but s4 just does not have that. dont know how u can say s4 screen is just a tad sharper than note 2 screen i found it to be a lot sharper than note 2 screen! and just cause of the sheer size of the screen and so widely spread pixels cause of the lower resolution, the note 2 really got hot after using especially when more whites are displayed on the screen. it used to lag a lot when going from app drawer to the widget section and the lag is considerably lowered now in s4.
so over all s4 is better than note 2 in almost every way and oh the s pen, dont talk about that! cause until dont have real good use scenario for it or u have lots of free time and u have really good drawing and hand writing its useless and i really didnt use it that much after my first 10 days with note 2!
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You can see pixels on Note 2? You must have super vision or something. I do see grainyness on S3 if I look hard, but Note II? Really? Especially since the Note II has larger pixels. Probably placebo effect IMO.
I never had black clipping (and from what I hear from Erica, Note II is better than S4 in this regard, not the other way - either way it's fixable), and I've browsed a lot on Note II with full brightness on (websites typically have white background) and there were no throttling issues or overheating, unlike reported by some S4 users (which should hopefully be fixable) for me. And that's even without the power saving blue tint (It has some sort of greenish tint, which I got rid with Perseus). And what makes you think that lower pixel density is what causes overheating anyways?
And the lag is entirely touchwiz, not hardware (unless you're somehow suggesting a quad core device with 2gb RAM would lag in widget drawer) - though for me lag was not that apparent (solved entirely with Nova+custom ROM) - many people with S4 has that too, but apparently fixed with firmware upgrade.
Anywho, whatever suits you mate S4 is a great phone nevertheless.
If you take battery life and camera quality out of the equation, do you think there is a good reason to upgrade to S4 from S2 ? do you find something particularly better on the S4 ?
Thanks.
Screen resolution..
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Overall screen quality, much much faster charging, lots of smart features which makes life easier.
For me, the screen and battery life(also the charging speed, was frustrated by S2 taking 4-5 hrs to charge) were the reasons enough to upgrade.
I'd say I do like the phone but was almost slightly disappointed when I first got it...I preferred the size of the s2 but have since become more used to the s4 size wise. Otherwise as others said, screen quality is much better, battery is better for me at least, some of the gimmicky stuff is good for some, nfc and just generally faster etc
worth the upgrade if you want to!
Thank you for your answers.
From what you say, it seems I don't have much to gain by upgrading from S2 to S4 currently.
I don't have LTE in my country.
I keep a spare S2 battery in my wallet (so battery is never an issue).
All the gimmicks I'll probably never use...
I do like the bigger screen, but it also makes it harder to carry...
It seems that even though the S4 is about 10X faster than the S2, this huge hardware advantage doesn't translate to real life performance gain (apart from 3D games maybe, but I hardly play those).
2 years ago I upgraded from HTC HD2 to Galaxy S2, because the S2's internet browsing speed was about 2-3 times faster than the HD2. This was a real advantage I could enjoy every day (and I am enjoying it everyday). It seems that the S4 simply doesn't have that "killer feature" which will make it a much more functional device than the S2 (browsing speed for example is practically identical between these two devices)... It could be that Android 5 will finally unleash the S4's potential (and totally kill the S2 because of lack of support), but I think Android 5 is very far away... (by then we might have the S5 already)
Ultimately, it does come down to what you use. I must say though, the S4 is very easy to get used to. So, once you're used to the 5inch in hand, it'll be hard for you to go back to anything smaller.
But browsing is smoother if anything. But, if you're happy with your S2 then you should stay and wait for S800 CPUs to arrive atleast Then, you may witness some real performance boosts. Not that you wont see any improvement with the S600 [you will ]
I upgraded from s2 to i9500.
The screen resolution its A WHOLE NEW WORLD i can tell you that, also the size of it, once you get confortable with the size, you cant never go back. The only thing its that there is a lot less roms, and another thing from my model is that there is a problem with the camera driver and some apps wont work.
I upgraded from the S2 to S4 (I9505 edition)
PROS:
* Bigger screen / better resolution / much more vibrant / much more clear / heaps better colour
* Faster / more powerful in EVERY aspect (CPU, RAM, WIFI, LTE etc etc)
* Newer / faster updates (especially with the Google Edition ROMS)
* Super Customizable (S2 was great about a year ago, since then it has died off substantial as developers have moved onto other devices)
* A HUGE number of developers on the S4 (XDA and other forums)
* Bunch of new features - pedometer, thermometer, gyro, humidity monitor, eye tracking, air-view, etc etc etc (not going to list them all, because i don't have time)
CONS:
* nothing.... S4 is basically an S2 on steroids and 2 years more advanced hardware combined with brilliant software.
Basically comes down to:
1) can you afford the upgrade
2) do the PRO's features benefit you in anyway
3) am i able to handle, such amazing power and put it to a good use...
Cons: no fm radio
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Cons: no fm radio
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Much better, use tunein radio.
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Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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Hi guys,
I am having some serious thoughts on what to get... Basically I am a software developer and I have a Galaxy Nexus, a Galaxy S1 some ond Xperia and a Nexus 7. It is time for me to switch to a new device as my daily driver. The options I have are Galaxy Nexus 5 and the Note 3. The Note 3 is more expensive with around 150$ in my country, considering the type of contract I am getting. The phone will be used for at least one year.
Nexus 5: well, no review yet. Price is reasonable in my country and has the new 4.4. The new android version doesn't impress me. To be honest I find the google experience pretty boring but I have to admit I liked receiving fast updates on my Nexus.
Note 3: I have been reading around the forum for the last days. I saw that many have problems with the home button, the battery life, the screen issues. I like the s-pen features but I am not sure how much I'll use them.
What advice do you give me ? What should I get ?
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i have galaxy note 3 but if i time returns i will choose nexus 5
Please mention your reasons. It would help me a lot. Thanks
I'm using note 3 at the moment and my nexus 5 is on its way to me, will give more accurate impression once received.
Features I prefer nexus 5 over note 3
Design look and feel (massive improvement)
No TW bloatware (another massive factor)
Easier to carry around
More regular software updates kat 4.4
No lag freezing (hopefully)
Features I will miss coming from note 3
camera not impressed at all (will miss that the most)
4k video recording
Battery life
S-pen (just a little)
Multi screens (what a feature)
Large screen
Ext memory
Have you encountered any problems with the Note 3 ? Does it lag ? Do you have that effect on low brightness for dark borders ? How does TW bloatware affect you ?
Battery wise note has 50%more juice. Home button issues - do you mean the button moving around? It is not a problem, people are too much complaining about tiny tiny things they should never find unless they read about it.
Camera - i think nexus5 is way better than n3. Its not the pixels that matter, or software options. Nexus 5 camera is next level, focus is about 10 times faster.
Bloatware yes, samsung puts 700mb of bloatware that you dont receive on nexus. Not sure if anything of that is usable. But cyanogenmod should arrive soon!
I wish note3 had the new camera and with optical stabilization, then it would be perfect!
As for 4.4 - its just a number. There will definitely arrive new android versions fast on the n3, just that you have to flash it yourself and void the warranty.
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I like Nexus because:
- The design of the device and the appearance of the UI is more appealing to me. I like to keep things on my phone looking pretty "minimalistic" with few colors and lots and lots of black. I absolutely hate the Touchwiz cartoony look and I always change everything about it, the process starts immediately on first boot of the phone. Everything about Touchwiz looks awful - the icons, the menus, the choices in colors, those horrible big green quick settings toggles in the notification bar. Stock Android is much much better when it comes to looks. The Nexus 5 and its software looks like it's been designed by a design team made up of adults who actually make cohesive decisions together. Touchwiz looks to me like the school project of a pre-school class where everyone can add their favorite color and everyone gets to participate and add their touch to the design. Little Johnny wants a big blue, round icon there - OK let's put it right next to Jenny's rectangular pink icon there and add Lisa's green toggles! Fun for everybody.
I like Note 2/3 because:
- The battery is bigger. I've never been this satisfied with battery life.
- The screen is bigger. Honestly after using the Note 2, I cringe every time I use my iPhone 4 (I keep it as my spare phone) or my wife's Galaxy S III. The displays are so tiny, I don't think I could go back. Not even to a 5" display.
- I don't like the on screen nav buttons of stock Android. I want the physical menu, home and back buttons.
- The S-Pen. I'm not a heavy S-Pen user but it has really nice features on the Note 3. I use it much more with my Note 3 than I did with my Note 2.
- Memory card slot. Seriously. I could not live without one.
- Removable battery - not a big reason but nonetheless it is nice.
I hate the Note 2/3 because:
- I get to a point where I'm never satisfied with the ROM I use. New stuff is released on XDA and I feel this pressing need to try other ROMs. All the time. Sometimes it seems all I do with my phone is restoring backups. With the Nexus I think that I would be more easily able to just stick with one ROM.. Maybe even the stock ROM, just rooting it.
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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U may have to wait for few weeks to get the full hands on review about this. Nexus 5. The specs r good. But we don't know about battery life, camera performance, and heating issues. Note 3 is good in these areas.
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I am planning on using the Note 3 with stock firmware from Samsung... because of warranty issues of knox trigger. This would also help on trying to reproduce bugs that appear on TouchWiz platform easier. So, having stock on Note3 sucks performance wise ?
efjbdejong said:
I am in the same boat as op.
I have a s2 now for 3 years and looking for an upgrade.
Minimum 5 inch screen, preferably a tad bigger.
Key feature should be office workability, due to a upcoming promotion as a project manager.
So I need info from all sorts of documents on the fly. Including excel.
Does the note provide this?
For free time I love playing games and viewing movies.
Help appreciated.
EJ
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Perhaps wait for nokia lumia 1520.
That's ideal for such mundane tasks. Lol
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alleshi said:
Don't listen to them
I just bought Note 3 after using Note 2 for couple of months
And go for Note 3 believe me this is the beast .. Note 3 Snap dragon
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Note 3 is far better then note 2 for sure but is it the best ow no. It's a beast but not the best.
If i didn't have the Note 3 already i would be pretty tempted to buy the Nexus 5. It's half the price, here, with great hardware, Kit Kat, Google updates, etc. But those touch buttons (why?) on the screen are a no no for me.
Thank you all for replies. After doing a lot of reading on the Buyers remorse thread I see that most of note3 users are happy. The only notable problems are: very weak audio output because of the small speaker, the pink effect around black edges on low brightness settings and the wobbly home button. Also I see that the battery isn't so great.
I am really thinking what to get, as I said, the difference would be around 150$ in price.
If I didn't have N3 already I would have the N5. I had N4 previously.
N3 has plus and minus points.
+ points
Battery Life - best I ever had
SD Card - installed 64GB,some users have install 128GB.
Big Screen - I like the screen some don't like AMOLED colors.
Fastest CPU & 3GB RAM
Multi Window & Pen Window
IrDA port - can control devices from my phone.
- points
Design - not very stylish
Build quality - my back cover already creaks only 1 month old. Others have experienced Home button and screen/multi touch issues
External Speakers - embarrassing from Samsung.
Samsung bloatware - unnecessary
Wireless Charging - not built in but @ extra cost
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Costum ROM
why wouldn't you just wait on xda to get pure 4.4 android and install that ROM on your note 3 ?
Hi,
the Google Nexus 5 is indeed a very good phone. Having switched from Nexus 4 to Galaxy Note 3 I can basically give you good explanations.
The Galaxy Note 3 has plenty more features than the Google Nexus 4 abd 5 which is great.
I would say the Note 3 wins everywhere against the Nexus unless you tell me you prefer smaller screen. In my case, the screen size was the reasob why I moved.
On the otherside, yes there are a lot of Samsung apps and that sucks to me. The Galaxy Note 3 can be rooted easily, so you can easy remove those bloatwares which make me feel more confortable that way.
On the other hand, I do prefer the PURE Androis that the Google Nexus has to the TouchWiz by Samsung because it uses way less resources.
The perfect phone for me would be a Note 3 with a AOSP Rom. (CyanogenMod or Android Open Kang Project (AOKP) because it would give the pure android feeling which means higher battery life, no bloatwares, faster updates.
Ok guys, some N5 reviews have appeared and to be honest, things don't look that good in battery and camera departments. Actually that was kinda expected considering the 2300 mAh battery and 1080p screen.
Now back to note 3, all the small things that bothered me (wobbly home button, pinkish black borders, bloatware) are not important anymore. The things that worries me most is the screen burn in. I saw some reviews where this is mentioned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3mbkoXCMhs&feature=em-uploademail from 19 minute). I have own so far a Galaxy S1 and a Galaxy Nexus both having amoled screens. On my GNex sometimes I can see the keyboard shadow after using it, but I haven't really noticed any permanent retention as it goes off after a few seconds. I just did a quick check with blue color all over the screen and I can see a very faint shadow of the top bar, but nothing really noticeable. BUT, I use the phone on auto brightness and considering that Note 3 has the most bright amoled display built, I am afraid that it will suffer from permanent burn in because of blue pixels. Could anyone tell me if they have burn in ? This is a major drawback for me and might be the point which may convince me to give up on note3 in favor of N5.
Thanks all for your help. I really appreciate it.
For me it's so simple. They don't even belong to the same category.
Do you need/like the S-Pen features (and do you actually use them)? Do you need the bigger screen and the amazing Full HD @60fps video (let alone the 4K)?
If not then the Nexus 5 is a no brainer at this price point. Plain and simple.
Apps and bloatware are of no importance to me. I always remove them to my preference, to me flashing ROMs is an integral part of a smartphone like Note 3.
I agree with you, but if the screen has issues than all the other features are pointless, considering that the screen is the thing we see most.
It would be really great if owners could do some screen tests and return with the result.
Note3 after 4 weeks usage ( I have in collection S4, S3 , S2 , Tab8 )
On the paper specification is really pleasant 3gb ram fats CPU and USB 3 and etc…
But these 3 GB of ram ? really do you need this 3gb. Fast CPU but, does the apk is optimized for this CPU – GPU NO some apk works ok some not Some games loading fast some NOT and ….it is always waiting for updates to fix this
Samsung phones start remember Windows operating system Updates and updates and new Phone after 6-8 month
Anyway it is not the phone hardware fault but mixing samsung apk + bloatware apk with android become tragic Samsung have they apk store + knox for the point security for ???? Samsung : store , link, hub, sync , S voice and other 50 applications and plus on this top you have android applications
My review point :
I have looked to Apple side but the price for devices always take me back to Samsung I’m talking 2010 -2012
My First samsung products S2 , S3 was something really good new design and compare to iphone 4 , 3gs at this time offers lots for the money + the price was half price as the iphone
NOW NOTE 3 I have accident and the front glass smashed
To replace on Note 3 Screen Samsung Service center want 180 Pounds ebay 130-160 For the screen assembly + you do not know are they not refurbs
Iphone 5s screen on ebay for 40 Pounds Ipad Retina Mini the screen + glass lens for 55 Pounds on ebay
Iphone / Ipad will be my next device and I think I will move completely from Samsung
From 2013 to now Samsung Increased devices the prices + bloatware
Galaxy S4 when released cost same as Iphone 5 But the quality for build 2 times less then Iphone
Software Optimisation IOS on Iphone Do you need more to say more ….
My 3 year old Ipad 2 have still full day battery life all games working fluent all apps working ???
Ipad 2 have 512 mb of ram and dual core CPU ? but runs ok fine
Note 3 with 3 GB ram must be killer for my old Ipad 2 but ……… I have run simple game Angry Bird go and Note 3 Was more lag than Ipad ??? Same with other games
Forgot to mention battery life Note3 :
Sometimes when I do some intensive stuff like playing with pictures editing , games . video , the battery indication drops 1 percent per 1/2 minutes on Ipad 2 I can play all day and still have battery left
The next Year I will be replacing Note 3 to Ipad mini Retina 4g + cheap android phone now Im stuck with Samsung but not for long …………..
Samsung:
1 To expensive to buy same price as Iphone but the quality 2 time less
2 bloatware by default tray to remove losing warranty WOW
3 battery life ........
4 Performance Ipad Retina mini will outperform any Samsung device by graphic by CPU ....
5 Quality of the device Samsung all plastic
6 Parts to replace samsung will be 2 times more expensive that Iphone
7 Samsung phones do not keep the price at all you pay same money as Iphone but when you need to sell you will get nothing If you want to sell Iphone you always find good price money for the used one so paying high price from the begging latter can sell as well high price
Regards
Inco
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I detect a troll. If its that bad, just sell the N3?
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>Sammy S3 stock, no root
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skypekestutiss said:
Samsung:
1 To expensive to buy same price as Iphone but the quality 2 time less
2 bloatware by default tray to remove losing warranty WOW
3 battery life ........
4 Performance Ipad Retina mini will outperform any Samsung device by graphic by CPU ....
5 Quality of the device Samsung all plastic
6 Parts to replace samsung will be 2 times more expensive that Iphone
7 Samsung phones do not keep the price at all you pay same money as Iphone but when you need to sell you will get nothing If you want to sell Iphone you always find good price money for the used one so paying high price from the begging latter can sell as well high price
Regards
Inco
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I m from Collection of Galaxy Nexus - Galaxy S2 - S3 - Note 10.1 2013 - S4 - Note 3 on Samsung Smartphones
*** Nothing better than this >> that u can modify you phone.
even kernel, rom and install lots of batch ro boost up performance
It s Android >> OPEN SOURCE
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what we have on iOS?
no rom! EVEN no Launcher
what is kernel you don't know.
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you need more battery on galaxy device u can replace it by another one what if u need more battery on iPhone? just some cases.
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true high-end smartphones are Galaxy devices then other manufacture like Sony, LG and etc
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It is not about trolling Samsung this and this I have the device for me no point to do this I just tired from Samsung and want to share my experence in the last 3-4 years of using Samsung devices
It is about real life situation what I have now
I have looked another Samsung device tab pro 8.4 What Samsung done again put up dpi resolution and put 801 CPU GPU and on the internet if search can find that the GPU is not design for such high resolutions so the people from the first day getting poor performance Im not talking about home screen performance but gaming browsing etc
So the price I in Tesco 279 Pounds WOW it is looking amazing price so good But now do comparison to ipad mini retina amazon uk 272 Pounds
and any people in this forum can say that the Samsung pro 8.4 better that Ipad retina ? Please want to see your arguments
For gaming performance for battery performance for updates and etc
Today I have updates for Note 3 to UENC2 Firmware 2 Gb to download it is not a problem But I have spend 1 hour after to delete all bloatware
I need to use superuser chainfire to get root but my warranty validated because knox has been tripped I know before when I done this because better I will trip knox that I will live all bloatware inside the phone
Yes the phone maybe more smooth other test haven test
Second about kernels and other roms
I will never ever use any rom from internet ..... I do no say that rom developer can steal my data but Im always left this possibility
and second if you look the forum people updating this roms each week or couple days adding more stability bla bla it is looks that Samsung must not have any issues at all as so many people fixing but if read forum always find this better rom tweaked
So if all roms so good it must be rom without any problems at all but always will be 200 pages talks with the problems ?
Samsung employ programmers I do want to this they are "educated" creating exyons CPU and sorry for my saying so rom developer are better than Samsung team ?????? because they can fix the rom problems ??? I do missing something or Samsung need to replaced they employers ??? because they do not working just adding bloatware that all they can do ???
anyway I told what I wanted to say it is free country
Regards
Inco
adding to my morals
when I looked for upgrade s4 I have looked note 3 as the best experience phone etc .... bigger screen s pen 3 GB of ram I think that this phone will fly on everything
Now camera Yes it is good but all internet comparing IPhone camera as to other phones why ??????? Looks like iPhone camera is the best..
Cover I need to buy smart cover for 40 pounds if you want Samsung original or ebay for 10 Pounds copies some not working after chip identify Samsung put on
Now in the car I need to connect via Bluetooth because USB is not compactible with android it was created for IPhone WHY WHY WHY android do not have same as iPhone same design connections protocols ?
USB cable the USB 3 is very good fast speed but the connector now is double size it is not complain as original apple connector was 30 pin or ... so it was bigger but apple move to small lighting connector and Samsung going different way from small connector to bigger WHY ?
Now sound dac Snapdragon have they own dac not like Ipohne people love on note 2 Glalxy s3 dac Samsung decide to go with snapdragon dac
CPU GPU Samsung created exynos 5422 yes it is better chip then before but still not as good as IPhone dual core
GPU PowerVR G6430 in A7 chip WHY SAMSUNG CAN FIT THE SAME GPU TO NOTE 3 OR OTHER PRODUCTS ?????? it is leading GPU
the performance from this gpu is superb compare to snapdragon ....
My point I paying same price as IPhone but getting quality as 2 times less in performance in battery etc ...
I like android and I want to part of android because YES IT IS giving freedom some way But do I have choice for good device NO
Please don't feed the trolls
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With android as our operating system we can choose the manufacturer of our choice. If the build quality was a very big issue then why didn't you choose HTC one M8. M8 beats the iphones in terms of build quality and even the HTC is providing a free screen replacement in case of broken screen.
I cant get the fact that you are comparing the battery life of the note 3 with other tablets. In the case of battery life note 3 has a flawless victory over the iphones.
Plus android provides the power of customization which beats all the features in IOS according to me. Widgets is another advantage for android over IOS. I guess by your above posts you may have not even rooted your android device. There is a whole another level and things to do with a rooted device.
If your problem with the OS you can always install a custom rom. The vanilla android roms provides a minimalistic operating system with smoothness over features. I guess you have not researched before buying your device. There are many devices like one plus one and nexus devices which provide the best value for money and best android experiences. The S pen features is something that you would never get from an IOS device.
Above all android provides a freedom to do what the hell we want with our device. Please stop your whining and get yourself an iphone, because you wont be wanted in this open source world. Goodbye
Great now I'm providing a little food and water. I look at the comparison of iPhone vs note as apples to kitkats. Both phones have great hardware. The iPhone has a superior camera. Note 3 has a massive edge in screen size. Hardware performance seems like a wash, both phones can handily blow through any task you throw at it. Battery life goes easily to note 3. Replaceable battery and sd card give note 3 a huge advantage in storage and longevity. Out of the box iPhone's IOS seems more polished vs. Samsung's heavily modded android os. The s-pen has a plethora of features the iPhone can't touch. The iPhone has boundless accessories created by independent manufacturers. But the main selling point to me is customization. IPhone can be jailbroken and freed from apple's iTunes monopoly and skinned, but with root the note 3 becomes a god. Through debloating, tweaking, root level/custom apps and roms the note 3 is a beast. But here's my question for you; why come to an android development community where everyone has already chosen a side? Personally I think you would be better finding an iPhone community full of sheeple. If you're not willing to customize your phone in any substantial way, I think you've come to the wrong place.
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So i've been torn between this phone and note 3 , i was about to take the xperia side but got worried when i compared the development for both devices , it seems like the xperia z2 roms got bugs with the camera not working and other issues....what do you guys think ? is there a steady development for this phone and bug free roms (paranoidandroid,carbon,cm ,...)?or should i go for the note 3 ?
waleed.619 said:
So i've been torn between this phone and note 3 , i was about to take the xperia side but got worried when i compared the development for both devices , it seems like the xperia z2 roms got bugs with the camera not working and other issues....what do you guys think ? is there a steady development for this phone and bug free roms (paranoidandroid,carbon,cm ,...)?or should i go for the note 3 ?
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I'm very satisfied with Sony's stock rom. It has far less unnecessary bloatware compared to Samsungs Touchwiz so personally don't feel the need to use anything other than a rooted stock rom with Xposed modules, and lets not forget how great a device the Z2 is.
I've been a diehard Samsung fan for years. I've had galaxy S, S2, S3, S4, S5........ Note, note 2, note 3, note 10.1 and note 10.1 2014. This is my first Sony since the smart phone revolution and I can honestly say I'm really impressed. I've only had it about 3 weeks and have not rooted it or anything. The only thing I have done is debrand it. It's great for playing games. The camera is fantastic. But most of all, battery life compared to any Samsung phone I've had is absolutely amazing. I used to get 1 full day out of my note 3 and charged it every night (the most battery life I had left at the end of the day was 30% and that was with only light use). I charged my Z2 last night for the first time in 3 days. Battery usage one the 3 days consisted of a few hours of watching YouTube videos, a couple of hours of playing games ( RollerCoaster Tycoon & asphalt 8). Checking in/posting on Facebook throughout the 3 days, and about an hour of surfing the Internet. I only have two complaints about the Z2 and they are, tap to wake is hit and miss at best, and the flap to cover the charging port wouldn't stay closed but I fixed this by giving it a good clean with a baby wipe. I always have the same brands in my devices so now i'm changing from my note 10.1 to Z2 tablet.
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I've been a diehard Samsung fan for years. I've had galaxy S, S2, S3, S4, S5........ Note, note 2, note 3, note 10.1 and note 10.1 2014. This is my first Sony since the smart phone revolution and I can honestly say I'm really impressed. I've only had it about 3 weeks and have not rooted it or anything. The only thing I have done is debrand it. It's great for playing games. The camera is fantastic. But most of all, battery life compared to any Samsung phone I've had is absolutely amazing. I used to get 1 full day out of my note 3 and charged it every night (the most battery life I had left at the end of the day was 30% and that was with only light use). I charged my Z2 last night for the first time in 3 days. Battery usage one the 3 days consisted of a few hours of watching YouTube videos, a couple of hours of playing games ( RollerCoaster Tycoon & asphalt 8). Checking in/posting on Facebook throughout the 3 days, and about an hour of surfing the Internet. I only have two complaints about the Z2 and they are, tap to wake is hit and miss at best, and the flap to cover the charging port wouldn't stay closed but I fixed this by giving it a good clean with a baby wipe. I always have the same brands in my devices so now i'm changing from my note 10.1 to Z2 tablet.
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I have had a very similar story and experience. Samsung phones and tabs for years and now Z3 Tablet Compact and Z2. I am happy. Did not mod anything, but neither could I with Samsung Note 3 because of Knox...
Note 3 is a very good device, has a wider screen and a stylus, but this Xperia are way out faster and have a great battery ( let me say that for the same usage it goes on for the double of time...).
Camera here is less good for point & shot but generally better. Important is also water resistance and the possibility to use the phone with gloves and even a normal pencil (I find it useful when it is cold).
Samsung roms are full of functions that you won't find here (reading mode, block mode, car drive mode, apps for kids and so on), but everything is far from being quick and responsive.
In Xperia Z2 everything just happens when you click.
Moreover, ultra stamina mode is perfwct when you are with a mere 15% or 10% and can still call and text for one day.
In conclusion, two good phones. I am happy with my change from Note 3 to Z2.
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I have used S2, S3, S4 and always been a Samsung fan. But lately I grew tired of the bloatware they keep on adding, the near useless features and their plastic build. The only thing that preventing me from buying Sony Xperia was their awful screen from Z to Z1, its only a TFT LCD screen compared to AMOLED from Samsung. Then came Z2 with IPS LCD display and from that moment I bought one, and never ever been disappointed. The UI is faster, less clutter, less bloatware, the camera is awesome, as well as the audio quality. Premium finish, glass front and back and metal on the sides, Noise cancelling headphones (its a steal!) and waterproof as an extra!
Yes, although development is significantly slow in Sony team, but even by using stock rom, battery life is superb, giving me 2 days like a piece of cake. You dont need a removable battery anymore. Existenz rom is good enough for my Z2. Not that Note 3 is bad, its way better if you multitask a lot and a bigger screen.
Yeah the multiwindow feature on the note 3 is really tempting.... Is there such mod for the xperia?
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Yeah the multiwindow feature on the note 3 is really tempting.... Is there such mod for the xperia?
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The only devices on which I have really used multiwindows were Note 8 and Note 10. In my opinipn even a 5.7" is too small for a useful multiwindows use.
On Xperia you have useful miniapps. Torch, browser, inbox and some other (limited) apps that you can play in windows.
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If you asked me i will tell you to get lg g3 everything much better than z2 and note 3 the camera and screen the battery on z2 better than g3 but everything else better on g3
Whatever you do don't get the g3, it lags, overheats, has bad battery compared to z2, no stereo speakers, no waterproof, no premium feeling, screen is dim and it's not as vivid and it also has halo effect.. The list could go on forever
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Jiyeon90 said:
Whatever you do don't get the g3, it lags, overheats, has bad battery compared to z2, no stereo speakers, no waterproof, no premium feeling, screen is dim and it's not as vivid and it also has halo effect.. The list could go on forever
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i concur, Z2 is alot better than the LG, grab a black z2 and combine it with a spigen crystal clear and youre good to go
Xperia Z2 is the best phone. I never had better. :good:
Get it when u are ready for it.
I have my Z2 for almost a year now.
Still seems like new really.
I recommend it.
Stock ROM still flies.
What do you guys think about the navigation buttons being on screen ? i have an impression that it will take away from the actual screen size specially that the navigation bar is not transparent
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What do you guys think about the navigation buttons being on screen ? i have an impression that it will take away from the actual screen size specially that the navigation bar is not transparent
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its actually better than hardware keys as the google now experience is better with software keys, also you have 5.2" real estate, even after navigation bar you get 5" which is same as most of the other phones on market. and navigation bar is transparent, just the keys are visible which hide in background depending on app or get reduced to three dots.
Oddly i find the onscreen keys fairly nice
I originaly thought they were enoying and a waste of space but it feels like hardare keys with the Z2, Exept they disapear in games, movies and youtube (apps simular )
Hello,
Is the call quality comparable with other smartphones? I just read about some issues with the voice quality in phone calls with some older firmwares. I didn't find some information about new software versions.
neconox said:
Hello,
Is the call quality comparable with other smartphones? I just read about some issues with the voice quality in phone calls with some older firmwares. I didn't find some information about new software versions.
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I myself have never had an issue with call quality or anything for that matter and I've had the phone for about a month and half now....came from a note 3 and the only thing I miss is the ir blaster lol the note 3 was a glitch fest and touchwiz constantly crashed (common issue). Never have I felt the need to flash a Rom on the z2 which is a nice change
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are there certain models that can't be rooted ?
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are there certain models that can't be rooted ?
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no
all Xperia's can be rooted one way or another
typically i just unlock my bootloader and install recovery and then install root via recovery but most people prefer to keep their warranty within grasp