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Hey guys, I decided to flash a custom rom onto my i9505 a few days back and i'm wondering how I'd get the S4 version of S-Health back.
Thanks.
Bump, I'd really like to keep this custom ROM.
Luck.
Likely, the only way is to steal the apk out of the stock rom, then try to install it on your phone in the custom rom, and hope it doesn't require TW.
I tired that, it doesnt work.
RaymondTracer said:
I tired that, it doesnt work.
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Here is a working apk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2328432
It should work with TW based roms, it might work with 'hybrid' roms, it won't work with AOSP roms (at least not as is & without significant re-working/porting).
But as you didn't even bother to give us such basic info as what rom you're using, how do you honestly expect people to give you meaningful help ? You've been here long enough to know what info you need to provide if you're going to ask for help in Q&A.
Hey guys. So i've been beating my head against the wall here, trying to search ( yes as in using google and the xda search ) for a solution.
I keep trying to flash stock based samsung roms, they would flash, but when i try to open the camera, it opens but it freezes and then comes back saying camera failed. So I wait about 10 minutes, and the camera works...but only for about a minute, then it freezes and then never opens again.
I've tried flashing all of faux123 kernels, only one worked ( 006-MDX ) but the camera still has issues and I can't seem to find any other kernels compatible with the I337M.
Anyways, I've now tried flashing a I337M firmware based custom rom and it boots but now there it just wont boot up at all, just gets to the samsung logo and sits there, I've tried flashing other kernels but nothing will help. I'm going to have to Odin back to stock, but I'm wondering what Kernels are ok to use with the I337M so that this doesn't happen to me again in the future.
Any help and I'll have my thanks finger ready
EDIT: Ok, so after some poking around, it seems that T-Mobile kernels work well with the I337M. Can anyone confirm this for me before I bork my device again? (currently doing an odin back to stock and re-rooting... =(
It is not wise to use other carriers kernels. Not a good idea. The att i337m kernels are just as good as the others. How would you benefit from it?
Btw the answer to your problem is you have the wrong kernel. Get into recovery and flash the kernel for your device.
TheSmokingAndroid said:
Hey guys. So i've been beating my head against the wall here, trying to search ( yes as in using google and the xda search ) for a solution.
I keep trying to flash stock based samsung roms, they would flash, but when i try to open the camera, it opens but it freezes and then comes back saying camera failed. So I wait about 10 minutes, and the camera works...but only for about a minute, then it freezes and then never opens again.
I've tried flashing all of faux123 kernels, only one worked ( 006-MDX ) but the camera still has issues and I can't seem to find any other kernels compatible with the I337M.
Anyways, I've now tried flashing a I337M firmware based custom rom and it boots but now there it just wont boot up at all, just gets to the samsung logo and sits there, I've tried flashing other kernels but nothing will help. I'm going to have to Odin back to stock, but I'm wondering what Kernels are ok to use with the I337M so that this doesn't happen to me again in the future.
Any help and I'll have my thanks finger ready
EDIT: Ok, so after some poking around, it seems that T-Mobile kernels work well with the I337M. Can anyone confirm this for me before I bork my device again? (currently doing an odin back to stock and re-rooting... =(
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9505 kernels work. Flash Adam kernel directly after flashing the ROM. If you still have problems with the camera, flash ROM, go into camera and let it update firmware, immediately flash Adam kernel then reboot.
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9505 kernels work. Flash Adam kernel directly after flashing the ROM. If you still have problems with the camera, flash ROM, go into camera and let it update firmware, immediately flash Adam kernel then reboot.
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Ya, I've done the whole adam kernel in the past, updated the camera firmware, everything was fine, but this time around, the firmware didn't need updating, at least i don't think so, considering the camera app launches, but sits at a black screen and then gives me a message that camera failed. it never tries to update the firmware like it did in the past. thanks though =)
TheAxman said:
It is not wise to use other carriers kernels. Not a good idea. The att i337m kernels are just as good as the others. How would you benefit from it?
Btw the answer to your problem is you have the wrong kernel. Get into recovery and flash the kernel for your device.
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Ya, I have been trying the correct firmwares for my device and nothing seems to fix it, thanks though
TheAxman said:
It is not wise to use other carriers kernels. Not a good idea. The att i337m kernels are just as good as the others. How would you benefit from it?
Btw the answer to your problem is you have the wrong kernel. Get into recovery and flash the kernel for your device.
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Most of the AT&T kernels are Loki :s... with a custom recovery that auto Loki I don't understand why to Loki a Rom... besides making it only for AT&T :s
I have a stock kernel that I backed up with twrp... the rest are T-Mobile
Sent from my i337M
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9505 kernels work. Flash Adam kernel directly after flashing the ROM. If you still have problems with the camera, flash ROM, go into camera and let it update firmware, immediately flash Adam kernel then reboot.
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Wait, on the unlocked bootloader devices, you mean the other carriers kernels is ok to flash? man, I seriously wish our att was unlocked, this is good to know thanks.
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TheSmokingAndroid said:
Ya, I've done the whole adam kernel in the past, updated the camera firmware, everything was fine, but this time around, the firmware didn't need updating, at least i don't think so, considering the camera app launches, but sits at a black screen and then gives me a message that camera failed. it never tries to update the firmware like it did in the past. thanks though =)
Ya, I have been trying the correct firmwares for my device and nothing seems to fix it, thanks though
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I stand corrected, your device from the post earlier says you can use other kernels. what a concept.
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Wait, on the unlocked bootloader devices, you mean the other carriers kernels is ok to flash? man, I seriously wish our att was unlocked, this is good to know thanks.
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Yeah us SGH-I337M users can use other device ROM's and Kenels. (Doubt not the 9500 because of hardware differences)
We pay for our unlocked bootloader in outrageous plans from our mobile providers though!
im in winnipeg here on the i337m rogers and have no problem with the kernal in my signature
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Yeah us SGH-I337M users can use other device ROM's and Kenels. (Doubt not the 9500 because of hardware differences)
We pay for our unlocked bootloader in outrageous plans from out mobile providers though!
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I can imagine, I still have a g3 that is in working order with a sim, and it is cool to see the loader unlocked. although on the g4, as long as I can flash a rom, I do not care how it works. I am a happy camper right now.
Thanks for clearing up the kernel question I had, can use that info when helping others. Thanks.
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I can imagine, I still have a g3 that is in working order with a sim, and it is cool to see the loader unlocked. although on the g4, as long as I can flash a rom, I do not care how it works. I am a happy camper right now.
Thanks for clearing up the kernel question I had, can use that info when helping others. Thanks.
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I guess with LOKI you are still set, the biggest drawback with the locked bootloader is probably slower device reboots, as you see the custom screen?
Your welcome about the kernel question I always see you helping others. Fell free to toss me a thanks.
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I guess with LOKI you are still set, the biggest drawback with the locked bootloader is probably slower device reboots, as you see the custom screen?
Your welcome about the kernel question I always see you helping others. Fell free to toss me a thanks.
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I have no problem on the thanks, but I have none left today, you and another killed em up...I will catch you though.
Thanks, here, and 1 a coming.
Could somebody please share a link to download Rogers/Fido stock kernel (rooted or not rooted) for i337M please ?
Thanks!
fmark said:
Could somebody please share a link to download Rogers/Fido stock kernel (rooted or not rooted) for i337M please ?
Thanks!
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Thread containing Canadian SGH-i337m stock firmware and kernels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269304
Link to Rogers kernel:
http://hotfile.com/dl/215149326/c15...GH-I337M-RWC-I337MVLUAMDJ-1366643831.tar.html
If im on an International Rom with an Auto Loki Recovery why do i have to use an AT&T Kernel? Is there an issue to using Ausdism's or Adam Kernel? Or even BroodKernel. It works fine so i dont know whats the big issue can anyone explain to me?, am i going to have any weird wake locks or abnormal battery drain?
Easton999GS said:
If im on an International Rom with an Auto Loki Recovery why do i have to use an AT&T Kernel? Is there an issue to using Ausdism's or Adam Kernel? Or even BroodKernel. It works fine so i dont know whats the big issue can anyone explain to me?, am i going to have any weird wake locks or abnormal battery drain?
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Wrong forum...but
CANADIAN CARRIERS NEED NO LOKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you need to use these...
Here is the Canadian stock Rom/Kernels Thread: (this should help you get started)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2269304
Thanks
Easton999GS said:
If im on an International Rom with an Auto Loki Recovery why do i have to use an AT&T Kernel? Is there an issue to using Ausdism's or Adam Kernel? Or even BroodKernel. It works fine so i dont know whats the big issue can anyone explain to me?, am i going to have any weird wake locks or abnormal battery drain?
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They for the most part work fine with loki BUT if any issues with data, etc show up running another carriers rom its a good bet its kernel related so switching to your carriers kernel at that point could help...
Personally I dont run any kernels but ktoonsez kernels.. thryve never let me down and have had the least problems by far with his kernels
Sent from my Omega AT&T S4
Easton999GS said:
If im on an International Rom with an Auto Loki Recovery why do i have to use an AT&T Kernel? Is there an issue to using Ausdism's or Adam Kernel? Or even BroodKernel. It works fine so i dont know whats the big issue can anyone explain to me?, am i going to have any weird wake locks or abnormal battery drain?
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For me, with an ATT i337, it's been hit or miss using the kernels included with i9505 roms and auto-loki or in my case loki-doki.zip. While some lokied i9505 kernels seem to work just fine, others have had issues. Usually the issue is related to the modem or wifi, but sometimes I've had FC/Freeze/Reboot issues. To be honest, I think every kernel is different so at this point it's tough to say which i9505 kernels will work with auto-loki / loki-doki and which won't. Just have to try them for yourself at this point, which is why it's easier to just flash an i337 (ATT) specific kernel if you're using an ATT S4.
I will say that over the past couple weeks, my impression is that many of the i9505 kernels are getting better in terms of working with loki patch and the i337, but I'm not sure what's changed.
Ok, I am confused to why you guys would run a kernel made for another device. Different hardware, tweaked for another device...there has to be issues, no?
I know this is hard to believe, I use the SAME kernel for every rom I tested or run. 06/10 KT. Once I get the rom up and running, then I do the kernel changing to see if it has a better effect on lets say the battery and so on.
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Ok, I am confused to why you guys would run a kernel made for another device. Different hardware, tweaked for another device...there has to be issues, no?
I know this is hard to believe, I use the SAME kernel for every rom I tested or run. 06/10 KT. Once I get the rom up and running, then I do the kernel changing to see if it has a better effect on lets say the battery and so on.
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I always end up flashing the ATT KT Kernel, but often I try to boot the rom specific kernel with loki-doki patch just to see what I get. There really is no reason for it other than curiosity. However, as I mentioned, it seems that whatever kernel developers are doing has made many of their non-att specific kernels much more compatible with our att devices once patched with loki of course.
Heck, a day or so ago, I was running MIUI with the included loki pathced MIUI kernel and it was working pretty darned well. Some small issues with 2.4Ghz wireless, but 5Ghz wireless seemed to work ok. LTE seemed to work ok as well.
I guess you could say curiosity more than anything.
Ok, agreed, but it could run into issues correct? You guys know if it boot loops or hangs you can recover, but it could be disaster to a new person.
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Ok, agreed, but it could run into issues correct? You guys know if it boot loops or hangs you can recover, but it could be disaster to a new person.
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I like to boot up the first time or two and try it for a while with the stock kernel but always go back to kt.. havent had a probl3m yet (knock on wood lol) but yeah I see your point about noobs possibly running into issues and panicking.. ive run a few 9505 kermels as well too.. just for the hell of it.. I think like acura said its just curiosity amd seeing whats out there..
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TheAxman said:
Ok, I am confused to why you guys would run a kernel made for another device. Different hardware, tweaked for another device...there has to be issues, no?
I know this is hard to believe, I use the SAME kernel for every rom I tested or run. 06/10 KT. Once I get the rom up and running, then I do the kernel changing to see if it has a better effect on lets say the battery and so on.
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I literally have never had an issue with any i9505 kernel even to this day. No wifi issues no 4G issues. everything seems to be flawless. All of our hardware is 100% identical. If there is a difference its in the bootloader or radios and at that point its different software not hardware..
Easton999GS said:
I literally have never had an issue with any i9505 kernel even to this day. No wifi issues no 4G issues. everything seems to be flawless. All of our hardware is 100% identical. If there is a difference its in the bootloader or radios and at that point its different software not hardware..
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Wow, really, thank you, I have not seen much on the use of other carriers kernels. Not a matter of crashing, I can recover from that. I just didn't know it was possible to run them perm.
Good to know.
Thanks again.
I have a brand new GE Android 4.2.2 running MFD that I'd like to be able to flash Android 4.3 and/or the Faux Kernel on to enhance functionality. I've been scouring the xda forums for a couple of days and can't find any posts with anyone attempting this. I had no problem rooting the phone and installing CWM recovery but for the life of me I can't get a custom rom or kernel on it. I have tried i9505 MF8 roms and various kernels including Faux. I've tried dirty flashing and clean flashing. I can't the phone to boot after installing any of these and always have to revert back to my stock backup. (I believe it because I'm on MFD).
Anyone else trying this, something similar, or have any ideas?
Any advice would be greatly Appreciated.
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I have a brand new GE Android 4.2.2 running MFD that I'd like to be able to flash Android 4.3 and/or the Faux Kernel on to enhance functionality. I've been scouring the xda forums for a couple of days and can't find any posts with anyone attempting this. I had no problem rooting the phone and installing CWM recovery but for the life of me I can't get a custom rom or kernel on it. I have tried i9505 MF8 roms and various kernels including Faux. I've tried dirty flashing and clean flashing. I can't the phone to boot after installing any of these and always have to revert back to my stock backup. (I believe it because I'm on MFD).
Anyone else trying this, something similar, or have any ideas?
Any advice would be greatly Appreciated.
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Hi,
Look HERE
4.3 is at the bottom of the second post.
matthemattix said:
I have a brand new GE Android 4.2.2 running MFD that I'd like to be able to flash Android 4.3 and/or the Faux Kernel on to enhance functionality. I've been scouring the xda forums for a couple of days and can't find any posts with anyone attempting this. I had no problem rooting the phone and installing CWM recovery but for the life of me I can't get a custom rom or kernel on it. I have tried i9505 MF8 roms and various kernels including Faux. I've tried dirty flashing and clean flashing. I can't the phone to boot after installing any of these and always have to revert back to my stock backup. (I believe it because I'm on MFD).
Anyone else trying this, something similar, or have any ideas?
Any advice would be greatly Appreciated.
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It doesn't work yet. We have no custom ROMs or custom recovery for our phone (9505G) as of yet. The 4.3 leak has a lot of issues for most of us. If you've flashed and gotten stuck not being able to load - I recommend following my directions here to fix - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360346
4.3 on GE
Thanks malybru!
I was able to flash 4.3 on my i9505 GE this evening.
It's a little buggy. Navigation is gone and the GPS doesn't seem to function correctly.
The rom does say experimental so I was expecting some degree of bugs.
Frankly I'm just happy I was finally able to flash something on my phone.
Are there any other roms available for the i9505 GE?
I haven't been able to find any, but of course I was unable to find the 4.3.
Thanks again for your help
No Roms
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It doesn't work yet. We have no custom ROMs or custom recovery for our phone (9505G) as of yet. The 4.3 leak has a lot of issues for most of us. If you've flashed and gotten stuck not being able to load - I recommend following my directions here to fix - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360346
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The only thing I wasn't able to load were the MF8 roms such as Omega. I was never in a soft brick state. It's disappointing to know there are no roms out yet but not surprising. I was wondering how the community would support the GE phones. I wasn't sure if there'd be hoards of developers using the phones or none at all.
XDA should have a GE category in the i9505 section.
Thanks for the advice.
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a few things for me.
I have an ATT SGH i-337 MK2 with SafeStrap 3.71
Today I tried to flash PAC ROM and Dirty Unicorn into ROM Slot-1, and upon reboot when the ROM's logo should appear the whole screen just looked like when a nintendo cartridge isn't working. It was just a few crazy colors with some blocks and lines here and there.
Then I tried AOKP with it's Loki'd Kernel being part of the ROM. The nintendo screen came back again, but then the AOKP logo popped up clear as day for a second. Then went back to the lines and colors.
So could this be a problem with Safestrap compatibility? If so, how can I uninstall it? (I did read the dev's thread, and it just says use .APK and IDK what that means)
Or could it be that I also need to use Loki Doki with the other two? (Didn't see anything about that in PAC or DU threads)
Thanks!
Same issues apon using The Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon (jfltevzw) Build MK2 rooted using vRoot (English) and using safestrap. if needed I can upload the safestrap apk or version. If I install any type of AOSP ROM the boot logo is either missng or baby blue with wierd static lines. AOKP is the only AOSP ROM that eventually boots (with static boot logo) but no wireless works, and this is the same wether MK2 and/or MJ7 modules are installed or not. the only rom I can successfuly install and use daily that has no bootloader based issues is Hyperdrive ROM For jfltevzw & jflteatt. Any info would be much apreciated!
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^ Interesting. I didn't expect anyone else to have this issue. I never read about it before. I really feel like it has something to do with SafeStrap.
Heath Cliff said:
Hi guys, I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on a few things for me.
I have an ATT SGH i-337 MK2 with SafeStrap 3.71
Today I tried to flash PAC ROM and Dirty Unicorn into ROM Slot-1, and upon reboot when the ROM's logo should appear the whole screen just looked like when a nintendo cartridge isn't working. It was just a few crazy colors with some blocks and lines here and there.
Then I tried AOKP with it's Loki'd Kernel being part of the ROM. The nintendo screen came back again, but then the AOKP logo popped up clear as day for a second. Then went back to the lines and colors.
So could this be a problem with Safestrap compatibility? If so, how can I uninstall it? (I did read the dev's thread, and it just says use .APK and IDK what that means)
Or could it be that I also need to use Loki Doki with the other two? (Didn't see anything about that in PAC or DU threads)
Thanks!
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If you would have read 1st, then you would know that you can NOT flash any non TW rom on MK2. This is stated over & over on XDA. Safestrap is NOT the problem it is a Godsend from Hashcode for us to be able to flash custom roms onto our locked boot loader devices. Please read before flashing, bricking & then bashing the developers. Follow the directions posted on how to restore your phone, or better yet make a trip to Best Buy & they'll do it for you. Good Luck.
REEEEEEAAAAADDDD!!!!
It's been very well documented that AOSP does not work with safestrap. Neither does loki. There currently is no way/fix to flash AOSP.
So
1. No AOSP or GPE
2. No loki
3. No flashing custom kernels
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John The Rhino said:
If you would have read 1st, then you would know that you can NOT flash any non TW rom on MK2. This is stated over & over on XDA. Safestrap is NOT the problem it is a Godsend from Hashcode for us to be able to flash custom roms onto our locked boot loader devices. Please read before flashing, bricking & then bashing the developers. Follow the directions posted on how to restore your phone, or better yet make a trip to Best Buy & they'll do it for you. Good Luck.
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I did read first. I've been reading this forum for quite a while actually. But there is so much information it's hard to keep it all straight. This ATT stuff is a lot different then my VZW Razr was. That phone was just flash and forget. There are so many different ROM's for this phone now that are 4.3 or KitKat I guess I just didn't realize that, that Android version came with the ROM and was originally something more mod-able stock.
Any way I wasn't bashing SS or Hashcode. I clearly said "compatibility issue" i.e. some programs just don't play well together hence the existence of compatibility mode, virtual machines, and x86 processors. So maybe you should read before bashing novice community members and making yourself look like a big asshole.
And I don't need best buy to fix anything I have a NANDroid, backup on Kies3, and Google+. Besides, I did all of this flashing I on a separate partition so the stock ROM was never altered. Thanks for absolutely nothing at all.
For anyone else that feels like they can move on with me, I would really like to try to install TWRP in place of SS. I'd appreciate any help with how to go about doing that. TIA
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I did read first. I've been reading this forum for quite a while actually. But there is so much information it's hard to keep it all straight. This ATT stuff is a lot different then my VZW Razr was. That phone was just flash and forget. There are so many different ROM's for this phone now that are 4.3 or KitKat I guess I just didn't realize that, that Android version came with the ROM and was originally something more mod-able stock.
Any way I wasn't bashing SS or Hashcode. I clearly said "compatibility issue" i.e. some programs just don't play well together hence the existence of compatibility mode, virtual machines, and x86 processors. So maybe you should read before bashing novice community members and making yourself look like a big asshole.
And I don't need best buy to fix anything I have a NANDroid, backup on Kies3, and Google+. Besides, I did all of this flashing I on a separate partition so the stock ROM was never altered. Thanks for absolutely nothing at all.
For anyone else that feels like they can move on with me, I would really like to try to install TWRP in place of SS. I'd appreciate any help with how to go about doing that. TIA
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Well stating Safestrap may have a compatibility issue is offensive to the developer, especially since you did not read the instructions or posts from other members who did as you. If you would follow the directions it's perfect. I have 4 different roms on my phone + stock to choose from! How cool is that? I understand the overwhelming urge to flash a rom, as I too have been flashing on my Skyrocket since the factory warranty expired last year, and flashing roms is a breeze on that device. However, this S4 is more complicated since the introduction of the KNOX & the LOCKED boot loader. These phones are expensive so unless you really want a $700.00 brick, read, read some more, then read it all again. Safestrap uses TWRP to flash the roms, but TWRP alone is not compatible with MK2 nor is CWM. If you want to flash roms on your ATT MK2 S4 Safestrap is the only way to do that at this writing.
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Well stating Safestrap may have a compatibility issue is offensive to the developer, especially since you did not read the instructions or posts from other members who did as you. If you would follow the directions it's perfect. I have 4 different roms on my phone + stock to choose from! How cool is that? I understand the overwhelming urge to flash a rom, as I too have been flashing on my Skyrocket since the factory warranty expired last year, and flashing roms is a breeze on that device. However, this S4 is more complicated since the introduction of the KNOX & the LOCKED boot loader. These phones are expensive so unless you really want a $700.00 brick, read, read some more, then read it all again. Safestrap uses TWRP to flash the roms, but TWRP alone is not compatible with MK2 nor is CWM. If you want to flash roms on your ATT MK2 S4 Safestrap is the only way to do that at this writing.
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Okay, well thank you for that. I just see so many ATT S4's in here with other ROMs and Recoverys I thought I could get something to happen. Anyway, sorry for the poor thread and response. I appreciate the plain blunt fact that SS and the ROMs that work with it are my choices for now. And don't worry about me. The worst that I'd probably get is a soft brick and I've recovered from that before Thanks again
Heath Cliff said:
Okay, well thank you for that. I just see so many ATT S4's in here with other ROMs and Recoverys I thought I could get something to happen. Anyway, sorry for the poor thread and response. I appreciate the plain blunt fact that SS and the ROMs that work with it are my choices for now. And don't worry about me. The worst that I'd probably get is a soft brick and I've recovered from that before Thanks again
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Hey man I totally understand. It's hard to watch all these other roms pop up for the original S4 & we can't flash them. But we no longer have to suffer with only the stock rom option since Hashcode's brilliant Safestrap was released. Once you get use to it, the ability of being able to multi-boot roms really kind of makes up for the locked boot loader. Soon though, we will have 4.4 Kit Kat & then we can start this process of getting off the stock rom all over again. Right? It could be worse, we could have I-phones. We do have a ever growing number of great custom TW based roms available to us here for our device. So try them, you'll be surprised how much better your phone performs. Glad I made sense & forgive my bluntness that's just how us Rhinos roll.