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Although there are a few threads on the X1 battery, none have addressed the real issue, in my view.
The 3.7v, 1500mAH battery specified and supplied with the X1 is underpowered for the processor (Qualcomm MSM7200A 528Mhz)
The defining symptoms for this are overheating when:
a) using wifi for over 60 minutes whilst on charge
b) using GPS for over 60 minutes whilst on charge
This 60 minute limit is somewhat arbitrary - it may be as low as 30 minutes, but within 60 minutes the overheating will definitely manifest itself. At the very least, this causes the device to behave erratically and if left unchecked may eventually cause the battery to explode.
I've tried 3 completely new batteries now - all carefully charged overnight before turning on the device in accordance with SE instruction manual. All chargers (both wall and car) have Sony Ericsson stamped all over them, as do the batteries.
I've owned these devices previously, none of which showed this problem:
HP HW6515
HP HW6910
Eten X500
HTC P3600i
HTC Polaris (still used as a totally reliable backup)
Useless to say "don't use wifi, use AS". This comment tacitly admits that my comment is accurate - ie. don't use the wifi for more than say 15 minutes, else the battery overheats
Useless to say "don't use the GPS for more than an hour" - again a tacit admission that the battery/charge system is unfit for its purpose. It has no value when I'm field mapping for 8-10 hours at a time.
My best guess is that the battery is underpowered for the system, so that when a large, constant drain on the battery such as using wifi or GPS is executed whilst charging, the balance of power within the battery is erratic. It certainly charges, but at the expense of heating the battery to unacceptable levels.
It's of interest to note that the original wall charger supplied in the box has a stamped output of 700mAH at 5V, while an SE-stamped spare wall charger I purchased has an output of 300mAH at 5V. It takes longer for the overheating to show on the lower charge rate than the higher, but eventually it does show.
Of course, some will reply "My device doesn't do that, your phone must be faulty" ... to which I ask: "What happens when you leave the device on wall or car charging and use wifi or GPS for an hour or two ?" This is a very specific question and requires a very specific and accurate answer ... not an evasive piece of generalised rhubarb.
I'm looking at two ways to resolve this serious issue, because the X1 as currently constituted is unfit for its purpose:
1) eBaying this and replacing it with an Acer DX900/X960/F900 as my experience with Eten devices have been positive (again, slagging these devices does not address the battery issue with the X1)
2) waiting in the hope that within 6 months or so, MugenBatteries or some other reliable manufacturer will produce a more powerful replacement battery that will tend to overcome the problem
I welcome constructive comments, especially those that read the post before replying. The X1 has some good points of course (eg. abundant Storage/RAM, high WVGA resolution), but the battery issue is a serious, fundamental flaw that makes the device unfit to rely on when in the field.
Perhaps it's your X1 itself? I myself and a couple of friends have X1i's and X1a's and we do not have such a problem.
not necessarily a design fault
saying that its a design fault that your battery warms up is a bit of a sweeping statement. WiFi is notoriously power hungry and just because that device warms up a bit doesn't necessarily mean its going to get worse and worse and explode. if you work on that principle then may be none of us should use wireless routers as they often get pretty warm too - I know mine does!
Also, even if some devices manage to give the impression of being cool, it doesn't necessarily mean they are. they might just have double walling around the batt area, etc.
If you are worried though, go ahead and sell your phone - its only you that looses out!
I've also noticed that it gets remarkably hot when charging but that's when charging from the USB port on my laptop. Haven't really considered how hot it gets when charging from the mains or in my car. Will test it out on a long journey in my car and get back to you.
My X1 works very well and has no battary problem. The durability of the battery is excellent!
If you say excellent, whats been your experience? I have to recharge my phone every second night, at the very least.
No problems here
Can't say I've had any issue with hot batteries on my black X1, my mate who has a silver X1 often mentions that his battery gets very hot.
This is exactly the type of issue that arouses the partisans ...
but the only sensible reply so far was Ruudford, who states he will test his X1 on a long car trip.
That's sensible - I've tried on an 10 hour field mapping trip and in the end had to use the Polaris to maintain mapping data integrity
The exact question is: "What happens when you use wifi or GPS for an extended time (>1 hour at least) while the device is on charge ?"
I've given my results - from three (3) new batteries. These results show that the device is underpowered.
No other answer apart from Ruudford so far has actually addressed this exact issue I've pointed out.
Yes, i completely agree that the phone becomes a bit HOT when using WiFi/GPS while on charger, and really this scared me for a while.
it even get's hotter when using WiFi/GPS and charging through USB Port of a PC!
this is surly serious issue, regardless of the heat that might explode the battery (i think it's still far from that level) but this really might cause some problems internally!
we all know that using hTourch on high beam has melted the LED Base of some devices and dammaged the vibrator (not pointing to hTourch or something, with respect to the great application and the author) but heat is a really scary issue that Might (and i say MIGHT) dammage the X1 on the long run.
how to solve this?
i have no clue, maybe some electonics engineers here will give some explaination of what's going on. after all, i'm just a software developer after all :S
i agree that this must be addressed and attended by SE (replacing batteries/chargers/anything else) or "could it be a software problem?" like the software is utilizing the CPU much to decrypt the WiFi signal? or maybe wasting the CPU cycles?
possible! but not as a hardware hunger for power.
btw,
have you tried to upgrade to R2A version of the ROM?
after all i noticed that in the R2A my battery lasts longer, mybe fixed some high current consumption bugs! the heat is still there but i think (not sure) it's less that before.
if i dont open the keyboard..it relly gets hot on wifi...so much so that i can smell the heat
so what would the ideal battery specs be?
my phone used to get hot but since the rom update i havent noticed it at all.
when your reception is low, your phone get hot easily when surfing internet.. More battery consumption for grab the line.
I have also noted my X1i overheat whilst charging and the GPS/WiFi is on use but considering the power usage by those two functions I assume it is the norm, especially with the X1i having a metal casing which allows the heat to flow more freely from the inside to the outside casing.
Coming back to the first post on here...if you wanted only people who have the same opinion with you to reply you could have at least made it a plain and clear. So dismissing replies that you simply don't like as non constructive is very silly.
If you ask other users about their experience in similar situations, the replies you are going to receive are bound to be different because the variables that come in to play are countless.
ianl8888, my phone has the same problem, now that you have pointed it out! Once or twice when plugged into the wall or charging via USB, I have mistakenly left the WiFi on. The back of the phone gets extremely hot. I haven't used GPS yet.
I have the same problem, about 2 weeks i just travel to the beach and near to 1:30 hr of trip, my mobile stop to work, I do soft reset, and I catch that was really hot, because I'm charging and using GPS at the same time, my mobile is X1a and I have R2A ROM version. I imagine can be touchflow, so I uninstall and leave phone like originally came, but when I return from the beach I have exactly the same problem, I can't do a trip of 2 hours using GPS. I hope some one can find a solution.
so what exactly needs to be done - software problem or battery problem????
Has it ever occurred to anyone that it may be the cooling system in the phone and that it isn't ventilated right? Let's open a few holes in the case and see what happens!
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that it may be the cooling system in the phone and that it isn't ventilated right? Let's open a few holes in the case and see what happens!
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afaik, no phone have ventelation nor cooling system!
Edit : Heat-sink? Maybe but i don't think so! these things are not supposed to generate much heat! too much heat = more wasted energy = lower battery life
Coming from a Nokia 95 that I used to have to charge every 2 days after using it for GPS and WiFi I am totally impressed with my X1i that lasts 4 to 5 days with similar useage.
I remember my first phone (A motorola tac in 1995) that had a battery lasting all of 6 hours...
Well, great times you got. My phone is empty with 3 hours of GPS on.
As to the heating of battery/phone, my phone gets quite HOT outside when I use anything for a period of time (1hour) while NOT on charge.
I am using media player a lot to listen to music and after half an hour the phone becomes hard to hold in the hand because it heats up outside/backside really strong. Again, while NOT on charge, just using the battery power. And frankly that is more of concern that when on outlet power.
I had this with 2 different X1i's and both Silver!
Dear Community,
In this thread I want to gather a sample to investigate to what extent the S4 suffers form overheating and how this affects the battery drainage/life. I urge you to participate as I am collecting a sample to submit a formal complaint to Samsung to raise awareness to an issue that is widespread among S4 users and to push Samsung to address this issue accordingly. In order to provide your sample please follow the instructions below and report back in this thread with the relevant information. Please first indicate which variant you have: Quad/Octa (i9505 or i9500)
Please download BatteryGraph (it's a great app to measure Battery drainage accurately) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modroid.battery
Run it once after download to initiate logging. Let it run for 10 minutes to allow the graph to built up a bit.
Then please Download Antutu benchmark run the benchmark fully exactly 5 times back to back (continuously). After that please enter the stock dialer (as quickly as possible) and enter *#0228# and post the temperature (external thermistor) after the tests in order to determine the maximum temp that the device reaches under continuous stress.
After that, please enter the app Battery Graph and zoom into the graph to the maximum level. Scroll slowly along the curve at the time when you performed the Benchmarks and tell me if there are interruptions or 'skips' where the battery drops 1 or 2 percent at a time and where the App does not Register a graph for those drops. Sequence/scroll slowly along the graph 1% at a time and make sure that the battery dropped 1% at a time. Please report of the battery has dropped more than 1% at a time. Please make a screenshot of your battery graph in the App and post it here for collection. I will analyze the graphs subsequently and compile it in SPSS to submit our findings.
If there is a drop of 2 or 3% at a time it means that you are experiencing Battery Percentage skips/cliffs which could indicate either a defective battery or defective device which might be the cause for the extensive heat development.
Thank you for your participation. Hopefully Samsung will listen to us and address the issue to give us the perfect S4 that we deserve.
Best,
Thomas from Germany
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Thank you for your participation. Hopefully Samsung will listen to us and address the issue to give us the perfect S4 that we deserve.
Best,
Thomas from Germany
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That battery app polls for battery level changes every 5 minutes by default. I think almost every device will experience a drop of more than 1% every 5 minutes under constant stress testing. You can change it to poll every 1 minute in the settings, which you might want to mention, but even so isn't it entirely possible to lose more than 1% a minute with everything turned on (GPS, Gestures, etc.) and ~17 minutes of constant cpu/gpu stress testing? It's a nice idea but it doesn't sound like it would yield very accurate results, unless I've misunderstood your post.
EDIT: Nevermind, I see how you can step through it 1% at a time now.
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That battery app polls for battery level changes every 5 minutes by default. I think almost every device will experience a drop of more than 1% every 5 minutes under constant stress testing. You can change it to poll every 1 minute in the settings, which you might want to mention, but even so isn't it entirely possible to lose more than 1% a minute with everything turned on (GPS, Gestures, etc.) and ~17 minutes of constant cpu/gpu stress testing? It's a nice idea but it doesn't sound like it would yield very accurate results, unless I've misunderstood your post.
I've also noticed that you cannot really zoom in very far and at the highest zoom setting the % is still displayed in multiples of 10. Kind of tricky to differentiate between a 1% and a 2% drop.
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You might be right, what would you suggest in order to yield more accurate results? I suspect that the heat is directly linked to a very quick drainage of the battery. How can we measure how much it affects the actual battery drainage?
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You might be right, what would you suggest in order to yield more accurate results? I suspect that the heat is directly linked to a very quick drainage of the battery. How can we measure how much it affects the actual battery drainage?
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I'm not criticizing you or anything and I'm not saying it's a bad idea, It's just that obtaining accurate battery results are tricky as everyone's device is different, has different settings enabled and are running different kernels/ROMs/etc. Batteries also seem to get more efficient as time goes on so newer devices might suffer from higher battery drains.
I'll run the battery temp test now though and see how hot mine gets!
I like your critical thinking, obviously you are right it is very trick but I believe the heat test itself could be very indicative. In the meantime I will try to find a better way to measure battery drainage.
So everyone please try to run the benchmark multiple times and submit the temperature.
The most I was able to get was 52C
Thanks
Pre-test: 29.9°C
After 3 tests: 35.0°C
After 5 tests: 37.7°C
After 7 tests: 38.4°C
After 10 tests: 38.8°C
The temperature increased less and less so I don't know how much higher I could get it.
Also, an easier way to poll the temperature is to do "adb shell dumpsys battery" over ADB. The temp will be displayed as something like 388 which means 38.8°C
Edit: It might be worth noting that the top of the phone, around the camera but more so on the screen side (so the cpu?) got incredibly hot. Almost too hot to touch. Kinda worrying, but I have spent the last half an hour stress testing, I guess
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Pre-test: 29.9°C
After 3 tests: 35.0°C
After 5 tests: 37.7°C
After 7 tests: 38.4°C
After 10 tests: 38.8°C
The temperature increased less and less so I don't know how much higher I could get it.
Also, an easier way to poll the temperature is to do "adb shell dumpsys battery" over ADB. The temp will be displayed as something like 388 which means 38.8°C
Edit: It might be worth noting that the top of the phone, around the camera but more so on the screen side (so the cpu?) got incredibly hot. Almost too hot to touch. Kinda worrying, but I have spent the last half an hour stress testing, I guess
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Thanks for your contribution Meltus! Really appreciated my friend. Also thanks for the ADB command it does make it easier but I doubt that you've read the correct temp as 38 appears to be quite low compared to what i got. Is your S4 a i9505 ?
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Thanks for your contribution Meltus! Really appreciated my friend. Also thanks for the ADB command it does make it easier but I doubt that you've read the correct temp as 38 appears to be quite low compared to what i got. Is your S4 a i9505 ?
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It's also the temperature that dialling *#0228# gave me (I double checked they were both the same each time). And no, I have an i9500, running Omega ROM, if that helps.
Might want to mention the elementary precaution of taking off all case covers except for the stock case before testing to prevent insulation effect of case covers increasing battery temperature...
While you're at it you might want to standardize room temperature to 25 degrees C... I know for a fact that my device would never get hot no matter what it does if running in the freezing cold air-con'd metro...
What about brightness settings and whatnot. Should all be the same, so you have to give a standard.
Pre-test: 36.2°C
After 3 tests: 51.4°C
After 5 tests: 54.6°C
After 7 tests: 56.9°C
dafaq right??? im really annoyed at sammy for this overheating S4... after 7 times testing the Antutu, i stopped and LITERALLY put my S4 in the lower compartment of the refrigerator to get it cooled down quickly cause im pretty sure the heat sensors inside would definitely be having some testing errors and the temperatures would be really really higher than that. even when i swipe between different homescreens the phone gets to 47°C which is really annoying.
can someone pls for the LOVE OF GOD provide any solution to this freaking problem? i have been worrying a lot for spending my $730 on an overheating phone...
i have S4 i9500 Exynos version
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oh and i have half the brightness all the time for everything and auto brightness turned off
Are you talking about the battery temperature? If so something is extremely wrong with your unit, my battery temperature never went past 45 even with high stress.
If in case you are pointing out the cpu temperature then there is no reason to freak out because the cpu can handle upto 90c + and can cool off pretty fast
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And why on earth you ran Antutu for 7 times continously lol? None of the current generation phones can handle it for 7 times on a row afaik
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Are you talking about the battery temperature? If so something is extremely wrong with your unit, my battery temperature never went past 45 even with high stress.
If in case you are pointing out the cpu temperature then there is no reason to freak out because the cpu can handle upto 90c + and can cool off pretty fast
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And why on earth you ran Antutu for 7 times continously lol? None of the current generation phones can handle it for 7 times on a row afaik
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You can read the CPU temp instead of the battery temp?
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Are you talking about the battery temperature? If so something is extremely wrong with your unit, my battery temperature never went past 45 even with high stress.
If in case you are pointing out the cpu temperature then there is no reason to freak out because the cpu can handle upto 90c + and can cool off pretty fast
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And why on earth you ran Antutu for 7 times continously lol? None of the current generation phones can handle it for 7 times on a row afaik
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im talking about the cpu temps. i ran antutu cause it was asked to be done for this thread.
and why would it be silly to run any app 7 times on the flagship device? its made to run the apps as much as people want thats why we pay a huge amount of money for these devices dont we? or else we should buy the low end devices
just saying cause i had heating up issues with devices before infact my last device Note 2 used to get a lot hot but not as much as this S4...
i desperately need a solution for this...
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You can read the CPU temp instead of the battery temp?
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Yes we can read cpu temp and battery temp separately, use system tuner app to read cpu temperature.
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im talking about the cpu temps. i ran antutu cause it was asked to be done for this thread.
and why would it be silly to run any app 7 times on the flagship device? its made to run the apps as much as people want thats why we pay a huge amount of money for these devices dont we? or else we should buy the low end devices
just saying cause i had heating up issues with devices before infact my last device Note 2 used to get a lot hot but not as much as this S4...
i desperately need a solution for this...
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You are not buying a flagship device just to run Antutu n number of times, do you? yes I accept we do pay huge money but that doesn't mean we can push the limit of a mobile and complain about it from a general user perspective . , it can be only done for experimental purposes and to understand the power /thermal envelope provided that it's done in the right way.
But how does running Antutu 7 times matches a real life scenario? Highly unlikely isn't it?
We are already pushing the limits of raw cpu power for a mobile, raw a15 cores are power hungry and often tend to heat faster than previous generation. Hence arm introduced the big little. The mobile heats up during heavy stress, but but that's expected with these powerful cores right? I'd better utilize the power wisely when needed rather than using it all the time. The cpu indeed gets hotter when stressed, it's the same With my s3 too the cpu temps reached upto 80,there is built in throttling mechanisms which will take of the cpu once the cut off temperature is reached. Have seen many benchmarkers these days using freezer test due to the thermal throttling in new gen devices. Yes the s4 heats up pretty quick than other mobiles but also cools down pretty fast and I think that's the way it is destined to work.
Hei one more thing, did you note how long it took to fallback to normal temps?
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Are you talking about the battery temperature? If so something is extremely wrong with your unit, my battery temperature never went past 45 even with high stress.
If in case you are pointing out the cpu temperature then there is no reason to freak out because the cpu can handle upto 90c + and can cool off pretty fast
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And why on earth you ran Antutu for 7 times continously lol? None of the current generation phones can handle it for 7 times on a row afaik
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We were doing it to see if there was a correlation between excessive battery drain and overheating batteries. Mine never got any hotter than 40 and I have pretty great battery life. The OP was seeing temps of 50+ and I'm guessing he has poor battery life.
Could there have been a few batches of bad batteries sent out with devices?
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We were doing it to see if there was a correlation between excessive battery drain and overheating batteries. Mine never got any hotter than 40 and I have pretty great battery life. The OP was seeing temps of 50+ and I'm guessing he has poor battery life.
Could there have been a few batches of bad batteries sent out with devices?
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Are you talking about battery temperature or cpu temperature? Haven't heard any stories so far regarding damaged battery, but may be possible.
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Thanks for the Updates > and clear step to analize the issue to fix in next Sw update
Thanks for your efforts ]
Dear Community,
In this thread I want to gather a sample to investigate to what extent the S4 suffers form overheating and how this affects the battery drainage/life. I urge you to participate as I am collecting a sample to submit a formal complaint to Samsung to raise awareness to an issue that is widespread among S4 users and to push Samsung to address this issue accordingly. In order to provide your sample please follow the instructions below and report back in this thread with the relevant information. Please first indicate which variant you have: Quad/Octa (i9505 or i9500)
Please download BatteryGraph (it's a great app to measure Battery drainage accurately) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.modroid.battery
Run it once after download to initiate logging. Let it run for 10 minutes to allow the graph to built up a bit.
Then please Download Antutu benchmark run the benchmark fully exactly 5 times back to back (continuously). After that please enter the stock dialer (as quickly as possible) and enter *#0228# and post the temperature (external thermistor) after the tests in order to determine the maximum temp that the device reaches under continuous stress.
After that, please enter the app Battery Graph and zoom into the graph to the maximum level. Scroll slowly along the curve at the time when you performed the Benchmarks and tell me if there are interruptions or 'skips' where the battery drops 1 or 2 percent at a time and where the App does not Register a graph for those drops. Sequence/scroll slowly along the graph 1% at a time and make sure that the battery dropped 1% at a time. Please report of the battery has dropped more than 1% at a time. Please make a screenshot of your battery graph in the App and post it here for collection. I will analyze the graphs subsequently and compile it in SPSS to submit our findings.
If there is a drop of 2 or 3% at a time it means that you are experiencing Battery Percentage skips/cliffs which could indicate either a defective battery or defective device which might be the cause for the extensive heat development.
Thank you for your participation. Hopefully Samsung will listen to us and address the issue to give us the perfect S4 that we deserve.
Best,
Thomas from Germany[/QUOTE]
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Are you talking about battery temperature or cpu temperature? Haven't heard any stories so far regarding damaged battery, but may be possible.
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Battery temperature. If someone's experiencing temperatures in excess of 50C and bad battery drain it would indicate a problem.
Am using a combination of Paranoidandroid and Franco kernel, and as widely discussed, the device gets hot at times very hot. So apologies if this has been discussed before, as I did a quick search but nothing came up, so what would be the gradual effect of the phone overheating, as clearly this must represent to some extent irregularities in the phone system DDoes it slowly cook up the internals of the phone, or maybe perhaps the phone is designed to withstand such heat, so just concerned because I use my phone at least 15hrs a day, so just concerned.?
I'm not a hardware pro so take this with a grain of salt. I think that long-term heating of the internals will have minimal harmful effects on your hardware. It'd take years and years for it to actually affect your device, long after you've upgraded. The CPU has undergone plenty of testing to make sure it lasts for a long time under self-inflicted environmental factors such as heat.
would also like to know. but not sure about what is considered hot/really hot.
the max CPU temperatures i reached were around 56°C (133°F), but thermal throttling on francos kernel is set to 70°C (158°C) by default (i lowered it to 65°C/149°C just to be safe).
if i remember correctly, i read somewhere that li-ion batteries dont really like being above 42°C (107°F), so when it reaches that temp, i immediately let it cool off.
so to sum up, thermal throttling is there to protect the soc and the hardware around it, so i would be concerned about the parts on the motherboard. i cant recall where i read that temp limit on the battery, so i cant state anything for sure about that.
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Am using a combination of Paranoidandroid and Franco kernel, and as widely discussed, the device gets hot at times very hot. So apologies if this has been discussed before, as I did a quick search but nothing came up, so what would be the gradual effect of the phone overheating, as clearly this must represent to some extent irregularities in the phone system DDoes it slowly cook up the internals of the phone, or maybe perhaps the phone is designed to withstand such heat, so just concerned because I use my phone at least 15hrs a day, so just concerned.?
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It won't affect phone's hardware afaik, the cpu itself has thermal guard and will automatically shutdown itself if the temp reach 110 or 120° (not sure between those two).
The one that may affected is battery, it may reduce your battery lifespan or even explode it if it's too hot, but it's hardly happens.
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TL;DR: can overheating affect life of phone?
Hey all! I previously owned a lg g3, and it used to overheat as well. After about a year or maybe year and a half, one day when getting hot it rebooted and then wifi/Bluetooth stopped working.
A few forum searches suggested the chipset warped due to the overheating over time. I haven't actually opened that phone to verify but makes sense.
So as we know, the camera throttle issue got fixed on the Moto g4 (at least the camera works flawless for me even when overheating to 120F). But my concern is less the camera performance now and more so the life of the phone after constantly overheating. (I have kids so I'm constantly using video / letting them play games, so it's overheating once every day/two days)
The chips are rated for very high temperatures - like 90C internal. That would translate in something like 70C external, you cannot held the device at that temperature. What you are calling "overheating" is actually normal temperature for this kind of electronics, it doesn't affect the functionality.
But sure, things can and will break sometimes - regardless of the temperature. I would use the phone intensively while in warranty period, if an electronic part is to fail, is more likely to fail at the beginning of device life.
Hello everyone, community of users and developers who strive not to let our old smartphones die.
The S5 has been one of my favorite cell phones, and I still have one, but I have not been able to use it again due to overheating problems, I've tried Roms from 4.4 Kit kat, up to 9.0 Pie, going through Stock Roms, Lineage OS, portations of other devices and none have noticed improvement. In simple tasks, such as camera, WhatsApp and others, with low brightness, I get temperatures between 50 and 65 degrees, and when I play or download Play Store applications, I get temperatures above 80 degrees, plus the battery does not last long, or at least it does not seem normal to me the duration that it has, approximately 2 hours of use with high temperatures.
I am very worried because I do not want to lose my fantastic cell phone, I would appreciate any help I could use very well, what I found in the forums has not helped me, I hope your quick help!
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Hello everyone, community of users and developers who strive not to let our old smartphones die..........
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The temperature & battery life issue is a typical indicator for the battery itself going bad.
You should replace the battery because, at any time, your device will just experience other symptoms as well.
Good Luck!
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Well in my opinion overheating in this phone is good because it will prevent from screen flickering and black screen issues.
i don't know...
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The temperature & battery life issue is a typical indicator for the battery itself going bad.
You should replace the battery because, at any time, your device will just experience other symptoms as well.
Good Luck!
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Hello, have a nice day, I have tried other batteries, I made an adaptation of the Samsung J7 2016 battery, which I understand is 3300 mAh, and it is working well in the original cell phone, but in the S5 it continues to give me overheating error, and discharges too fast, just like the old G900F OEM batteries, I still have not bought an original from the PolarCell family and so on, because I'm afraid of losing my money, thanks for the answer!
It could be good, but ...
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Well in my opinion overheating in this phone is good because it will prevent from screen flickering and black screen issues.
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I am worried that such high temperatures can burn the processor, emmc or other internal components of the cell phone, it is practically impossible for me to hold the cell phone in my hands while I use it, and I am afraid, that the battery explodes, or as I had said it, burn some internal component and lose my cell phone forever